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I do a mix of both, as sometime I'm just too horny to lookup every word :D
I do a mix of both, as sometime I'm just too horny to lookup every word :D
To answer my own question, I found an app called Agent that helps with hooking all "difficult" engines easily. Just google Agent text hooking or something. It has a translation tool included, but its interface isn't suitable for using as you read a vn. I just use textractor (for MTL) and translator aggregator (for dictionary and original text) with it, as it seems to "save to clipboard" automatically.
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I can relate. Sometimes I'm too horny to even bother with setting up my texthooker and just starts a game thinking I know enough japanese to play through an H-scene I already completed but after the first few kanjis I give up reading and only focus on the heroine's voice to know what's going on. She can read kanjis for me lol.
Btw, how is your texthooker set up?
Mine is Textractor + TA(Translation Aggregator) or sometimes ITHVNR + TA.
And my TA windows are Mecab and JParser. Mecab is for furigana but sometimes it breaks a kanji into smaller kanji making it confusing or it doesn't even register some kanjis. So JParser is for covering up the shortcomings of Mecab and gives much more detailed definitions of kanjis. But JParser is also not perfect as it doesn't register several kanjis too specially(in my case) kanjis for dirty words which I had to look up on the net each time till I was forced to memorize.
So I'm hoping if someone can recommend a better setup than mine who uses texthookers for furiganas and kanjis only.
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Mine is different, more complicated but it's generalized to learn Japanese (from anime or games), and keep in mind I don't care about furigana, I learn the words instead :
In normal mode
Textractor to hook the game
+ send to clipboard textractor extension
+ using a dedicated chromium browser for JP learning -> https://chromium.woolyss.com/ (yes the website is legit, dude just compiles chromium builds for you, note that you can use something like brave if you don't want to use chromium, as long as it's based on it and has access to the chrome webstore)
+ using clipboard inserter extension (reason why I recommend to use a dedicated browser, you don't want that in your usual browser) -> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/clipboard-inserter/deahejllghicakhplliloeheabddjajm
+ using yomichan (with added JP dictionaries) to lookup each word -> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/yomichan/ogmnaimimemjmbakcfefmnahgdfhfami
(note : you can also use Rikaichamp that has built in dictionaries if you don't care about voice over, or sending the definitions to third parties -> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/10ten-japanese-reader-rik/pnmaklegiibbioifkmfkgpfnmdehdfan )
+ using a special web page that grasps clipboard stuff and writes it, so that you can look up any word you want. -> online https://texthooker.com/ or offline https://github.com/jhunschejones/Texthooker-Local
It sounds complicated and all, but really it's very simple once it's set up, and using web pages to look up is way better than whatever mecab can do.
It looks like this :
1- you launch the game
2- you hook it with textractor
3- you launch your chromium browser and you browse to the texthooker page
5- you start both yomichan/rikaichamp and clipboard inserter
And that's it, each sentence is now copied to the browser and you can look anything!
Since all sentences are inside the browser, you can even use a furigana extension if you'd like.
My horny mode :
Same as above but I just use deepl textractor extension to quickly check what's being said.
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I can vouch for this if you're using it for Tyrano script. Its pretty consistent and easy to use despite the fact it looks confusing at first.
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Thank you! This might be better than the method recommended by vn reddit due to having a dedicated browser. On their guide I was also apprehensive about being online to read but here it seems Rikaichamp runs offline with Texthooker Local(unless I've misinterpreted something) which is good. But now my net is also stable there is no problem either way.
And yeah, furigana is a bad habit of mine. I had JParser but my eyes always went to Mecab first due to laziness. I'll make a point to not use furigana extension on this setup.
Again, thank you.
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was looking at くるみぷりんと blog and he was talking about what he thinks makes a good NTR game https://ci-en.dlsite.com/creator/16156/article/834641
story
"It is the fundamental element of the work.
If the story is good, the characters will be good and the worldview will be good.
On the other hand, if the story is bad, neither the characters nor the worldview will stand up, so it may be the most important element.
In the case of NTR works, it is the relationship between the heroine and the hero,
The relationship between the heroine and the hero.
The encounter with the interloper and the process of falling.
The process of meeting and falling with the interloper, and the degree of fall after the fall.
I think that the story is divided into three factors.
There are many masterpieces that have these three factors well depicted.
MTSP's works are very erotic because they depict these factors well.
"
Direction (erotic text, erotic scene)
"In NTR works, this basically refers to the text and presentation of erotic scenes.
It also includes the heroine's voice from her mind, and the hero's gasping voice heard through the wall.
The heroine's voice, the heroine's gasp heard through a wall, the heroine's reflection on an erotic site that is suddenly opened, something happening behind a door, shadow pictures through a sliding door or curtains, etc. are also examples of direction.
In the case of games, there are many things that can be done here.
Items, meaningful erotic status, animations, etc. can be used in various ways.
"
Worldview.
"The environment or expanse that makes up the work.
A work that is set in the present day is likely to receive a good score for worldview because it is connected to the players, but if the development is too far off the beaten path or the story is too unrealistic, a worldview must be presented in the story.
On the other hand, if it is a fiction or fantasy world, it is necessary to explain the premise, etc., so it is necessary to devise a convincing worldview.
In games, maps and characters are important in the worldview.
So there is a correlation between the characters and the story, so a good worldview will relatively increase the scores of the story and characters."
translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)
found it an interesting read. their more to the blog then this as well.
story
"It is the fundamental element of the work.
If the story is good, the characters will be good and the worldview will be good.
On the other hand, if the story is bad, neither the characters nor the worldview will stand up, so it may be the most important element.
In the case of NTR works, it is the relationship between the heroine and the hero,
The relationship between the heroine and the hero.
The encounter with the interloper and the process of falling.
The process of meeting and falling with the interloper, and the degree of fall after the fall.
I think that the story is divided into three factors.
There are many masterpieces that have these three factors well depicted.
MTSP's works are very erotic because they depict these factors well.
"
Direction (erotic text, erotic scene)
"In NTR works, this basically refers to the text and presentation of erotic scenes.
It also includes the heroine's voice from her mind, and the hero's gasping voice heard through the wall.
The heroine's voice, the heroine's gasp heard through a wall, the heroine's reflection on an erotic site that is suddenly opened, something happening behind a door, shadow pictures through a sliding door or curtains, etc. are also examples of direction.
In the case of games, there are many things that can be done here.
Items, meaningful erotic status, animations, etc. can be used in various ways.
"
Worldview.
"The environment or expanse that makes up the work.
A work that is set in the present day is likely to receive a good score for worldview because it is connected to the players, but if the development is too far off the beaten path or the story is too unrealistic, a worldview must be presented in the story.
On the other hand, if it is a fiction or fantasy world, it is necessary to explain the premise, etc., so it is necessary to devise a convincing worldview.
In games, maps and characters are important in the worldview.
So there is a correlation between the characters and the story, so a good worldview will relatively increase the scores of the story and characters."
translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)
found it an interesting read. their more to the blog then this as well.
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About 完堕ちＸ寝取られ家族/ Sex-loving family
there is a survey from the developers, you can tell them your opinions, there are some questions like about your favorite character, your favorite genres ..etc (ask them for more NTR games and netorare games and maybe swapping and netorase games!
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf4_5B-Oqk6B0OdzueJa0hDba5Ru47WQttHYvK6Wf5VubwoJA/viewform
there is a survey from the developers, you can tell them your opinions, there are some questions like about your favorite character, your favorite genres ..etc (ask them for more NTR games and netorare games and maybe swapping and netorase games!
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf4_5B-Oqk6B0OdzueJa0hDba5Ru47WQttHYvK6Wf5VubwoJA/viewform
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I forgot two little things :
- You also need to reenable chrome web store extension installation if you use one of the chromium builds : just follow what's there -> https://github.com/NeverDecaf/chromium-web-store
- if you use yomichan you can send the words you're learning to a flashcard app like anki, which is neat if you use spaced repetition to learn vocab.
Otherwise yes, everything can be done offline, you don't even need to update the chromium once it's set up (as long as you NEVER use it to browse the web).
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About 完堕ちＸ寝取られ家族/ Sex-loving family
there is a survey from the developers, you can tell them your opinions, there are some questions like about your favorite character, your favorite genres ..etc (ask them for more NTR games and netorare games and maybe swapping and netorase games!
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf4_5B-Oqk6B0OdzueJa0hDba5Ru47WQttHYvK6Wf5VubwoJA/viewform
I post Onboro as my fav. writer hahaha. Dunno if it will affecting their production.
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So anyone have the full game ? As far that I know , they cut the content for the English version right ?
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Sinc ei know almost nothing of writters i also put Oboro lol, and KAGAMI as artist sicne i miss that guy's art =S....fuck you Lilith's RPGs!!!!
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I'm sorry i didn't know about that, Perharps Animefan know something about cut content?
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Is on steam but as DLCs, last time i checked there wasn't a way to buy the full game or the main game + the 3 dlcs alone (there is a package but it includes the previous game and other stuff i am not interested....plus even at discount it was almost 70$), i am waiting to see if later on they include the 3 dlc in a full version or as a package deal.
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https://dlsoft.dmm.co.jp/detail/pencil_0083/
So is the DMM version above contains all the DLC version ?
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No idea, i am paying attention to steam because is where i can buy it from without too much hassle.
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It's not particularly expensive, that's just what eroge cost. I have no interest in netori so I haven't played it but POISON clearly split the content into 'DLC' solely for the steam release so as to make the 'main' game cheaper for people who aren't used to paying the usual price.
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Replying with quote is apparently broken for me, I'll do a quick one instead.
Well, to me a low effort MTL that they didn't even bother doing any editing job on is really expensive at 60 euro with the DLC included. DLC that should also have been part of the base game instead of sold piece meal like some DLC character for a fighting game. I paid around €40 for Muramasa and about the same for Maggot Baits on release, and both those games had lot of effort put into translation/localization - I never felt those were overpriced one bit.
Well, to me a low effort MTL that they didn't even bother doing any editing job on is really expensive at 60 euro with the DLC included. DLC that should also have been part of the base game instead of sold piece meal like some DLC character for a fighting game. I paid around €40 for Muramasa and about the same for Maggot Baits on release, and both those games had lot of effort put into translation/localization - I never felt those were overpriced one bit.
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Both of those are games from larger companies, released many years after the original Japanese release, published by a foreign company and at a price that is equivalent to their current Japanese one. Like I said, the 'DLC' is clearly only done to lower the price to what those on Steam would be more familiar to paying for something like this; whether you agree with it or not this is simply what eroge typically sell for, you can find the game on DLsite and can see that price is actually identical. They can't possibly undercut the Japanese price when doing a more or less simultaneous release.
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Really? I thought even after translation games were around 40 or 50$ even the big ones.
PS: technically the game is cheap i know that, its only the inclusion of the extra bits that drives the price up so much (and i am not really interested in the extra stuff apart from the "dlcs")
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So to wait until the eventual discount xD, hoenstly i would pay this much right away if the game was Netorare Princess, that one was bigger apart from having more stuff that attracts me, oh well part of buying these games is showing support so they put more effort into it and see there is a market here.