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Anime Sharing - Netorare General Discussion Thread

A decent portion of the futa fans I've polled would be okay with a cheating game with a futa, but not a "chastity cuckold title", as in a heavy focus on the male protagonist watching his wife being taken.

As I've said it's your game and it's not my place to tell you how to make it. If your fans have told you something, it's common sense to act on it; it's hardly a secret that cheating/netori is the perhaps more widely accepted (or just least reviled) face of NTR among the uninitiated. I'm just not personally convinced how realistic it is to expect actual netorare from a third person narrative in what will essentially be a netori-driven plot. Still, it's not like the game is being actively developed yet and perhaps my concerns will turn out to be unfounded anyway, so I'm fine with letting you get on with it.

Anyone play Guild Tatics https://www.dlsite.com/ecchi-eng/work/=/product_id/RE238411.html by Bell Voice? If so does anyone know how to get the scenes with the long brown hair girl with blue eyes and rides a dragon.

They've moved on from simply 'lose-and-get-NTR'd'? Interesting.
I played the first Tactics Despair or whatever it was and honestly it wasn't great. While I loved the fact it's an SRPG, and as close to a NTR Fire Emblem game I'll get, as well some clever ideas like all the trap options (houses being full of enemies, ally units suddenly switching sides, etc) and the heroines joining the villain in fighting you at the end, the whole quality of it was really poor. Obviously the graphics are still just ripped from 3DCG but has the rest improved at all would you say?
 
As I've said it's your game and it's not my place to tell you how to make it. If your fans have told you something, it's common sense to act on it; it's hardly a secret that cheating/netori is the perhaps more widely accepted (or just least reviled) face of NTR among the uninitiated. I'm just not personally convinced how realistic it is to expect actual netorare from a third person narrative in what will essentially be a netori-driven plot. Still, it's not like the game is being actively developed yet and perhaps my concerns will turn out to be unfounded anyway, so I'm fine with letting you get on with it.



They've moved on from simply 'lose-and-get-NTR'd'? Interesting.
I played the first Tactics Despair or whatever it was and honestly it wasn't great. While I loved the fact it's an SRPG, and as close to a NTR Fire Emblem game I'll get, as well some clever ideas like all the trap options (houses being full of enemies, ally units suddenly switching sides, etc) and the heroines joining the villain in fighting you at the end, the whole quality of it was really poor. Obviously the graphics are still just ripped from 3DCG but has the rest improved at all would you say?
It isn't to different from the others it still has to many enemies that are to strong so I had to use cheat engine to cheat on health but the way the heriones get captured was different in this one. The short brown hair one you after completing a mission and going to to next mission you have to say you didn't get the 500 gold to join the guild and she will start sleeping with the guild mater for money and for your sister the blonde girl when in the map let the guild master reach her and he will rape her and found out you have to lose on the map 7 to get long brown hair girl ntr.
 
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Does the wife actually get stolen in any of the stories?

Don't think so. Might be more accurate to say these are side-stories to the main game so what's shown here are just extra details of some of the routes. They don't have impact on the main game's ending(s)
 
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for studio i ask them to make more from atelier sakura. Alicesoft is close to them already :D
 
Futa is great. NTR is great. But with such a heavy focus on actually watching- to me it turns into a NTR: type A game and there's no real room for a lot of good fetishes normally present in more mystery NTR... I like the discreet behind the back sex away from the protagonist if it's shown in a good way and not a constant switching of perspectives which is a little lazy.. gradual corruption where a character is reluctant at first. And the MC not knowing a character is a futa is a lot of untapped potential that I don't see even in doujins. Leaving a wife at home with a old friend- both can discover something new in so many ways and the MC could come back to a surprise... It's great you're making a game with futa and I'll support you all the way- but I do feel the max potential of the futa genre is lost with a typeA and with the protagonist already knowing the action is happening . Still looking forward to what comes of it.
The protagonist doesn't know it's happening. I personally don't like mystery at all though, I don't like not knowing what's happening until the end I absolutely hate having to play the game again for the wife's perspective. It's why I would never play a Jinsei game even though it hits all my other buttons.

As I've said it's your game and it's not my place to tell you how to make it. If your fans have told you something, it's common sense to act on it; it's hardly a secret that cheating/netori is the perhaps more widely accepted (or just least reviled) face of NTR among the uninitiated. I'm just not personally convinced how realistic it is to expect actual netorare from a third person narrative in what will essentially be a netori-driven plot. Still, it's not like the game is being actively developed yet and perhaps my concerns will turn out to be unfounded anyway, so I'm fine with letting you get on with it.
It's at its infancy, but it's being actively developed.
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The protagonist doesn't know it's happening

This alleviates most all of my fears for the game. I'm perfectly fine with detail of scenes as they happen- don't need to fully be in the protags shoes. The drama that comes with internal thoughts- conversation between the wife changing gradually, and the big reveal is what makes NTR what it is I suppose.. There's just no other route but humiliation if the character knows it's happening from the get-go and then it becomes Netorase or something that brings up questions about why the protagonist doesn't act a certain way or do certain things.

Anyway- hope development continues on pace and the project survives. Too many times creator contact is lost and it all slips into obscurity and never finished. Will be rooting for your success.
 
The protagonist doesn't know it's happening. I personally don't like mystery at all though, I don't like not knowing what's happening until the end I absolutely hate having to play the game again for the wife's perspective. It's why I would never play a Jinsei game even though it hits all my other buttons.


It's at its infancy, but it's being actively developed.
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You do know you can play all the important jinsei games from the girl's POV from the begining right? Sure most of the time you get the guiy's first but is like 5 or 10 min then you see girl's, so you should TOTALLY go and play 1 right now!!!!!
 
Hi everyone!

I'm playing 姫様と警備兵 / The Princess & The Guard right now and I found the 4 first ending, but I can't find the last two (End 5 and 6). Do you know how to unlock these two? I think I've used all choices so I can't find how to do it :D

EDIT: Just forget it, I didn't see the new option in the menu that gives the two last endings :P
 
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I'd appreciate some help finding a doujin I read a while back. Sorry if this isn't much to go with -
• The MC is secretly fucking two sisters he's tutoring (I think each is oblivious about the other dating the same guy)
• He goes to tutor them in their house, and one day, when both of them are out, he starts relationship with their mom, over a game iirc. I remember the mom's name being Reika.
• Reika used to be an air hostess and pulls some strings with her friends still in the industry to book themselves (her and the teacher) an entire first class cabin and go at it the whole flight.
• The daughters later find out the MC is doing them all and demand he choose one of them. They decide that he then fuck all of them then and there, and whoever gets pregnant gets to be his gf (hentai logic, don't ask).
• They all get pregnant at the same time, and happy end, I guess.

Read in exhentai a few months ago, but I can't seem to find it anymore. I don't remember the title. If anyone knows of it, a link would be much appreciated.
 
I'd appreciate some help finding a doujin I read a while back. Sorry if this isn't much to go with -
• The MC is secretly fucking two sisters he's tutoring (I think each is oblivious about the other dating the same guy)
• He goes to tutor them in their house, and one day, when both of them are out, he starts relationship with their mom, over a game iirc. I remember the mom's name being Reika.
• Reika used to be an air hostess and pulls some strings with her friends still in the industry to book themselves (her and the teacher) an entire first class cabin and go at it the whole flight.
• The daughters later find out the MC is doing them all and demand he choose one of them. They decide that he then fuck all of them then and there, and whoever gets pregnant gets to be his gf (hentai logic, don't ask).
• They all get pregnant at the same time, and happy end, I guess.

Read in exhentai a few months ago, but I can't seem to find it anymore. I don't remember the title. If anyone knows of it, a link would be much appreciated.


i think you are talking about this one? https://nhentai.net/g/111082/ not ntr though
 
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Hello!
Can't hook Share Girl House ~Minna ni Share Sareta Boku no Kanojo~ ( https://vndb.org/v24971 ) with Visual Nover Reader. Following all the general VNR hooking rules and have never encountered this problem after 20+ titles.
Any advice? Maybe there's another good program I might be using for this game?
 
Hello!
Can't hook Share Girl House ~Minna ni Share Sareta Boku no Kanojo~ ( https://vndb.org/v24971 ) with Visual Nover Reader. Following all the general VNR hooking rules and have never encountered this problem after 20+ titles.
Any advice? Maybe there's another good program I might be using for this game?

I use a combination of ITHVNR and Translation Aggregator, works on most everything that can be hooked. I know it can hook that game but I haven't played it through yet so I don't know if it'll have any problems later.
 
i think you are talking about this one? https://nhentai.net/g/111082/ not ntr though

Thanks a lot! I only remembered a few plot details, one of them being the married woman, the girls' mother. So I automatically assumed it mustv'e been NTR. Now that I re-read it, the husband/father never really makes a meaningful appearance outside a photo which is kinda lame. Still a good fap material though ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
 
Hi everyone!

I'm playing 姫様と警備兵 / The Princess & The Guard right now and I found the 4 first ending, but I can't find the last two (End 5 and 6). Do you know how to unlock these two? I think I've used all choices so I can't find how to do it :D

EDIT: Just forget it, I didn't see the new option in the menu that gives the two last endings :P

Can you please provide your save file? Thanks
 
Thank you for your comments.

There's a third reason for making the husband go away: to make the true NTR scenes mostly avoidable. NTR is a niche and futanari is a niche, and the combination is even more of a niche. As much as I love NTR and it being the main purpose of the title, a plain NTR futa title will bankrupt me long before it's finished. I'm not a millionaire and the amount of people willing to pay for something like this is 0,01% of the people who would like it at most. I need to find a way for people who like futa on girl action but not NTR to potentially like it as well, otherwise this project has no future.

The fourth reason is because the gameplay will be based around a single month where something of the player's choosing happens every single day. There's no way for that to work with the husband present.

I'm not sure I really understand your logic here, the game is still surely going to be NTR regardless of whether or not the husband is present at all, the wife will still be cheating behind his back. You could argue what specific sub-division of NTR it'd fall into, but is the sort of person who won't buy games because they hate netorare really going to fork out money just because you assure them that your game isn't really netorare? Maybe I'm just confused by what 'making the true NTR scenes avoidable' actually means.

It's fair enough that you want to make a profit, no one can begrude anybody that, but I would've thought with this plot it'd make more sense to try and appeal to those who like NTR but not futa, rather than the opposite.

I don't want to make a profit at all, if I ever did I would find a way to either put it back into the game or donate it to the advantage of the NTR fetish with random commissions for art or translations or something. I'm making a big loss financially on my current project (Swing & Miss) and that's completely fine with me since they're passion projects. I don't want to pay my bills with these projects, but it shouldn't be that I can't pay my bills anymore because of these projects. So I do have to somewhat take into consideration what "sells". And there not being any purely Futa NTR games at all does say something about its popularity.

A decent portion of the futa fans I've polled would be okay with a cheating game with a futa, but not a "chastity cuckold title", as in a heavy focus on the male protagonist watching his wife being taken.

Futa is great. NTR is great. But with such a heavy focus on actually watching- to me it turns into a NTR: type A game and there's no real room for a lot of good fetishes normally present in more mystery NTR... I like the discreet behind the back sex away from the protagonist if it's shown in a good way and not a constant switching of perspectives which is a little lazy.. gradual corruption where a character is reluctant at first. And the MC not knowing a character is a futa is a lot of untapped potential that I don't see even in doujins. Leaving a wife at home with a old friend- both can discover something new in so many ways and the MC could come back to a surprise... It's great you're making a game with futa and I'll support you all the way- but I do feel the max potential of the futa genre is lost with a typeA and with the protagonist already knowing the action is happening . Still looking forward to what comes of it.

As I've said it's your game and it's not my place to tell you how to make it. If your fans have told you something, it's common sense to act on it; it's hardly a secret that cheating/netori is the perhaps more widely accepted (or just least reviled) face of NTR among the uninitiated. I'm just not personally convinced how realistic it is to expect actual netorare from a third person narrative in what will essentially be a netori-driven plot. Still, it's not like the game is being actively developed yet and perhaps my concerns will turn out to be unfounded anyway, so I'm fine with letting you get on with it.

The protagonist doesn't know it's happening. I personally don't like mystery at all though, I don't like not knowing what's happening until the end I absolutely hate having to play the game again for the wife's perspective. It's why I would never play a Jinsei game even though it hits all my other buttons.


It's at its infancy, but it's being actively developed.

This alleviates most all of my fears for the game. I'm perfectly fine with detail of scenes as they happen- don't need to fully be in the protags shoes. The drama that comes with internal thoughts- conversation between the wife changing gradually, and the big reveal is what makes NTR what it is I suppose.. There's just no other route but humiliation if the character knows it's happening from the get-go and then it becomes Netorase or something that brings up questions about why the protagonist doesn't act a certain way or do certain things.

Anyway- hope development continues on pace and the project survives. Too many times creator contact is lost and it all slips into obscurity and never finished. Will be rooting for your success.

I know it must be hard to work in a game and invest into it just to have some guy telling you are doing things wrong. It must really suck, I know, you must hate me, but trust me when I say that my intentions are not bad. I think it's better to have an opinion of someone that disagree and can give you another point of view, rather than just having everyone say "your are doing great", just to finish your game and find out that is not as successful as you thought it will be. So yeah, I'm that guy, and I'm not saying that I'm right, but I want to give you my impressions in hope they are useful to you.

I think you are doing things backwards. I mean, if you have to choose between futanari fans and NTR fans, it will be much more profitable to choose NTR fans, simply because there are a lot more demand for it as show IN HERE (futanari is in the 12th place by the way). Also NTR is one of the most polarized fetishes ever, most people either love it or hate it. So, you will find a lot more fans of NTR than don't mind futanari, than fans of futanari that don't mind NTR. I think it will be much more effective doing it that way. Trying to please everyone, or most exactly, not trying to displease some fans, is in my opinion a formula for dissaster, and you can check quite a few examples of that in this thread. Don't making it Mystery because you don't like it, it's a totally valid reason that I can respect. I mean, there is no point in making something you don't like. But trying to water down the NTR feeling just to please some fans is another matter all toguether, after all you do like NTR don't you? And NTR well made I assume.

On the other hand, assuming that the lack of futanari NTR games is proof that not many people like that kind of stuff is another big mistake. Before Greater Heal and Sei Yariman Gakuen Enkou Nikki came out, there were pretty much no games with the JK prostitution bitch theme. Now that's a very popular fetish, to the point that there is even a developer specialized in making those kind of games. No fetish or trent is popular until someone developes a good game/manga/CG/etc. and makes it popular. I'm sure there will be a lot of demand for futanari NTR if someone make a good game about it. It's kind of contradictory that you expect it to sell while thinking that not many people like it (Then why don't just choose something more standard that sells?) I think the idea of futanari-NTR is great, as long as is well made. If you want to make a futanari NTR game, then make a good futanari NTR game, with strong NTR feelings and a horny futanari. That way, both futanari and NTR fans, will be pleased. If you make something in between just because you are afraid some people won't like it, then better do a vainilla game, or you will probably end up dissapointing NTR fans (and there are a lot of them, for some reason this thread is the second most viewed in the whole forum). One comment from a dissapointed fan could sink your ship, so you are risking a lot by making something NTR but not quite (I think you could crash and burn making it that way).

On regards of the gameplay I think you are doing it backwards as well. Think about it. Why do people play this kind of games? Is it because of the gameplay or because they want to fap to the story? It's obvious the later. So into developing a game, the gameplay has to serve the story and not the other way around. So if the gameplay requires the husband to go away, watering down the NTR feeling along with it, I'll rather change the gameplay. And if you want to maintain the gameplay at any cost, there are ways to go around it, withouth the need for the husband going away. For instance: Why not make the futanari a neighboor? That way she can be close to he wife when the husband is working. Or make the two girls come to the house earlier, while the husband is still at work. If the husband comes later, they can have an hour or two alone. Doing it like this also allows you to have some juicy "almost caught" moments, that are really good in NTR. That also allows you to have some "stealth" scenes earlier in the game (and I can imagine a few that will almost only work with futanari and that I would love to see). You can also make the wife a housewife, so the futanari can monopolize her while the husband is at work. I think you should be flexible with your story in order to give the stronger erotic (and NTR) feeling posible. So, at least there is a strong reason for the wife and the futanari being coworkers, then there is no reason to change the setting a bit (they can fuck around in the workplace too). Of course this is all assuming you decide that sending the husband away is a big mistake. I think it is, for all the wasted potential: the "netori guy" is a futanari, she will go under the radar withouth the need for the husband to go away. Sending the husband away is like throwing to the trash one of the main reasons this game will make a good NTR!

Sory if I'm harsh but, I have always thought that futanari in NTR will be a blast for all the potential it has. Also futanaris tend to be really possessive and agresive, so they make a great character to steal the wife/girlfriend. I always wanted a developer to make a good futanari-NTR game. I also wish some developers will read this thread and realize what we NTR lovers like and what they make that we don't like. So watching someone in this thread develope a futanari-NTR game, while wasting a lot of its potential, making the same mistakes we all complain about in here, just drive me nuts! But well, in the end, it's your game. I can only tell you what I think based on my experience watching/playing/reading NTR manga/VN/CG/etc. and what I have read and contribute in this thread.

I'm sorry for the long post and being kind of rude myself. I wish you the best luck with your game! I really do!
 
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A couple of cgs from black lilith's new game, "Mama wa Taimanin" , web will open next week.

https://twitter.com/sasalilith/status/1103365011605340160

I often check it too. Recently, Black lilith focus on developing online game, named [対魔忍RPGX」. It's really weird, I rarely see Agami's artwork in their recent games. I hope to see his/her new artworks in near future.

By some chance would anyone happen to have 僕と彼女の歪んだ関係 in their hardrive somewhere? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
I tried to find it too. If you have any information please send me message.
 
I know it must be hard to work in a game and invest into it just to have some guy telling you are doing things wrong. It must really suck, I know, you must hate me, but trust me when I say that my intentions are not bad. I think it's better to have an opinion of someone that disagree and can give you another point of view, rather than just having everyone say "your are doing great", just to finish your game and find out that is not as successful as you thought it will be. So yeah, I'm that guy, and I'm not saying that I'm right, but I want to give you my impressions in hope they are useful to you.

I think you are doing things backwards. I mean, if you have to choose between futanari fans and NTR fans, it will be much more profitable to choose NTR fans, simply because there are a lot more demand for it as show IN HERE (futanari is in the 12th place by the way). Also NTR is one of the most polarized fetishes ever, most people either love it or hate it. So, you will find a lot more fans of NTR than don't mind futanari, than fans of futanari that don't mind NTR. I think it will be much more effective doing it that way. Trying to please everyone, or most exactly, not trying to displease some fans, is in my opinion a formula for dissaster, and you can check quite a few examples of that in this thread. Don't making it Mystery because you don't like it, it's a totally valid reason that I can respect. I mean, there is no point in making something you don't like. But trying to water down the NTR feeling just to please some fans is another matter all toguether, after all you do like NTR don't you? And NTR well made I assume.

On the other hand, assuming that the lack of futanari NTR games is proof that not many people like that kind of stuff is another big mistake. Before Greater Heal and Sei Yariman Gakuen Enkou Nikki came out, there were pretty much no games with the JK prostitution bitch theme. Now that's a very popular fetish, to the point that there is even a developer specialized in making those kind of games. No fetish or trent is popular until someone developes a good game/manga/CG/etc. and makes it popular. I'm sure there will be a lot of demand for futanari NTR if someone make a good game about it. It's kind of contradictory that you expect it to sell while thinking that not many people like it (Then why don't just choose something more standard that sells?) I think the idea of futanari-NTR is great, as long as is well made. If you want to make a futanari NTR game, then make a good futanari NTR game, with strong NTR feelings and a horny futanari. That way, both futanari and NTR fans, will be pleased. If you make something in between just because you are afraid some people won't like it, then better do a vainilla game, or you will probably end up dissapointing NTR fans (and there are a lot of them, for some reason this thread is the second most viewed in the whole forum). One comment from a dissapointed fan could sink your ship, so you are risking a lot by making something NTR but not quite (I think you could crash and burn making it that way).

On regards of the gameplay I think you are doing it backwards as well. Think about it. Why do people play this kind of games? Is it because of the gameplay or because they want to fap to the story? It's obvious the later. So into developing a game, the gameplay has to serve the story and not the other way around. So if the gameplay requires the husband to go away, watering down the NTR feeling along with it, I'll rather change the gameplay. And if you want to maintain the gameplay at any cost, there are ways to go around it, withouth the need for the husband going away. For instance: Why not make the futanari a neighboor? That way she can be close to he wife when the husband is working. Or make the two girls come to the house earlier, while the husband is still at work. If the husband comes later, they can have an hour or two alone. Doing it like this also allows you to have some juicy "almost caught" moments, that are really good in NTR. That also allows you to have some "stealth" scenes earlier in the game (and I can imagine a few that will almost only work with futanari and that I would love to see). You can also make the wife a housewife, so the futanari can monopolize her while the husband is at work. I think you should be flexible with your story in order to give the stronger erotic (and NTR) feeling posible. So, at least there is a strong reason for the wife and the futanari being coworkers, then there is no reason to change the setting a bit (they can fuck around in the workplace too). Of course this is all assuming you decide that sending the husband away is a big mistake. I think it is, for all the wasted potential: the "netori guy" is a futanari, she will go under the radar withouth the need for the husband to go away. Sending the husband away is like throwing to the trash one of the main reasons this game will make a good NTR!

Sory if I'm harsh but, I have always thought that futanari in NTR will be a blast for all the potential it has. Also futanaris tend to be really possessive and agresive, so they make a great character to steal the wife/girlfriend. I always wanted a developer to make a good futanari-NTR game. I also wish some developers will read this thread and realize what we NTR lovers like and what they make that we don't like. So watching someone in this thread develope a futanari-NTR game, while wasting a lot of its potential, making the same mistakes we all complain about in here, just drive me nuts! But well, in the end, it's your game. I can only tell you what I think based on my experience watching/playing/reading NTR manga/VN/CG/etc. and what I have read and contribute in this thread.

I'm sorry for the long post and being kind of rude myself. I wish you the best luck with your game! I really do!
You're confusing the Japanese/Asian fandom with the Western one, I think. 0% of Japanese fans will play an English language title. It's not marketable to them for me (I can't even post on 2chan), and not playable for them. And there's a reason Japanese NTR eroge titles are rarely translated to English: its expensive and translating the other way around would be as well, if not more so to do it well. It's not a reachable audience for me and not comparable to the Western audience in terms of taste.

I think a Western audience wants different things from their games. People in this thread (including myself) like Japanese NTR eroge, but keep in mind that 3.5 million views in over 7 years is absolutely nothing. It's a niche and the few hundred fans lurking here all like different things. What they do like, they'll pirate 90% of the time by going to a different board on this forum and clicking the download button. There's more than just this forum out there, but I would be very surprised if Western buyers contribute to DLsite sales hugely. Different genre, but the only English vendor selling this femdom title is DLSite English with 47 sales. It was released days after the release on the Japanese DLsite, which has well over 100 times more sales, and isn't even the only vendor selling the title in Japan. I'm convinced Western audience do not matter in visual novel sales in the slightest.

If evaluate the comments from supporters of my current project, which is pretty much a nukige, I'd say 10% are complaints about NTR, 5% are just compliments, and 85% are compliments of people who wish the game had more choices. There's absolutely no objective indication that another nukige is the way to go if I want to finish the project. Here's what's supposed to be a list of the top adult game creators on Patreon. Want to calculate what percentage of the list are visual novels without choices?

I'm not a child, I do not believe in magic and winning the lottery. This is a passion project, but not something that will be the start of a futanari NTR revolution. It's a niche within a niche and will stay that way.

I've already switched the concept around a bit. The husband will have his own start-up company. It's successful enough and he spends a lot of time working, so his (house)wife suggests hiring a part-timer so he can be home more often. The part-timer is the futa, who works 4 days a week for the husband and fucks the wife the other day while the husband is working. So it's be a weekly system instead of a daily one.