Anime Sharing - Netorare General Discussion Thread

[Infidelisoft]

I might come up like the guy that is never satisfied with anything, but I don't care, since I think good criticism is crucial to make something good. Please don't take it badly, since my intention is for you to make the best game posible. So here we go.

"It's about aguy leaving for a month". Don't do that please, if you do, you will waste the potential the game has. Some posts ago we were talking about the lack of NTR feeling in the new Atelier Sakura game because the boyfriend was not really present. Also we have talked a lot about the potential of straight-shota for making advances on the heroines while passing unsuspected under the boyfriend/husband radar. And now we are talking about how futanari can accomplish that as well. Knowing all that, why would you want to make the husband go away? This game has the potential for showing how the wife gets stolen right under the husband's nose, and you are trowing that potential away by making the husband leaves. And I'm sure I'm not the only one thinking this, I mean, read the quoted comments.

The way I see it, there are two reasons why the husband leaves in a business trip in a NTR game:

1. It's something not uncommon in japan. I mean there is even some japanese words for it (出稼ぎ - 旅稼ぎ - 出張 -海外出張 - 出張る).
2. Because is easy for the developer. You make the husband go away and when he is back her wife is already the other guy's mistress. This is not necesarilly a bad thing, since depending on the story and the circunstances of the characters there might be a need for the husband to go away, but in a good game this situation serves the propose of the story, making the game better, not easier for the developer.

i think making good developing decisión while making a game implies two things: Listen what people wants/likes and understanding why that decisión might be necessary in the game. By seeing it like that, I think the decission of making the husband leave is a terrible one. If it was me, I would take full advantage of the fact that the husband can't suspect of the futanari. I would make the futanari do advances on the wife with the husband near or even just in front of him. She could even pull stuff like THIS, withouth the husband noticing what's really happening, making him realize that something is off, withouth being able to put his finger on it. Then make the husband go in a business trip at the end of the game (so the futa can fuck the wife the whole week), coming back one day before trying to surprise her wife, to finally discovering the affair (standart, yes, but effective) I think people would love to see something like that, at least I would love to.

Also I hope you do mystery, as EmmaMan said, it will be a fantastic mystery game. Even with a third person narrative, it can have a husband POV mystery in the first half and a wife POV reveleation in the second half. An example of this is the Toaru Hahaoya series (yeah, I know I mention that series a lot, but it makes so many things right, that it just happens to be the perfect example for a lot of things). People are starving for a good mystery NTR game, you should consider that.

I'm a big fan of futanari, but I miss the old school futanari (I loved the Mysty Moon Metropolis series of magazines). It's kind of hard to find good futanari nowadays. I'll post some examples of my favorite futanari characters in hoping of helping you developing your character:

Itami Suzuka from Spermatank (I think that's her name, I'm not sure because her name doesn't have furigana). My favorite futanari character. She really enbodies the futanari character archetype perfectly. Warning though, since the manga has some guro in it.
Aoi from the Dulce Report series
Sogahara from TSF Monogatari
Midori Kamiya
This girl based on Satori Komeji from Touhou this one is more on the submisse type, so it might not be useful to you, but I love how it shows how horny and insatiable futanaris can be. For instance in this ugoira she is forced to eyaculate continually 310 times untill she finally runs out of semen (look for the whole bathtub series of ugoiras, they are really hot).

I hope my words are useful to you and you take them into consideration. I will be looking forward to your game.

Thank you for your comments.

There's a third reason for making the husband go away: to make the true NTR scenes mostly avoidable. NTR is a niche and futanari is a niche, and the combination is even more of a niche. As much as I love NTR and it being the main purpose of the title, a plain NTR futa title will bankrupt me long before it's finished. I'm not a millionaire and the amount of people willing to pay for something like this is 0,01% of the people who would like it at most. I need to find a way for people who like futa on girl action but not NTR to potentially like it as well, otherwise this project has no future.

The fourth reason is because the gameplay will be based around a single month where something of the player's choosing happens every single day. There's no way for that to work with the husband present.

 

[proxicide25]

Hello, anyone knows what's new in the DLC for: 僕に抱かれ喘ぐ妻は、他の男に抱かれた話を紡ぐ 追加シナリオDLC?
http://www.getchu.com/soft.phtml?id=1036543 Thanks!

 

[MerrilMan]

I need to find a way for people who like futa on girl action but not NTR to potentially like it as well, otherwise this project has no future.

I'm not sure I really understand your logic here, the game is still surely going to be NTR regardless of whether or not the husband is present at all, the wife will still be cheating behind his back. You could argue what specific sub-division of NTR it'd fall into, but is the sort of person who won't buy games because they hate netorare really going to fork out money just because you assure them that your game isn't really netorare? Maybe I'm just confused by what 'making the true NTR scenes avoidable' actually means.

It's fair enough that you want to make a profit, no one can begrude anybody that, but I would've thought with this plot it'd make more sense to try and appeal to those who like NTR but not futa, rather than the opposite.

 

[Infidelisoft]

I'm not sure I really understand your logic here, the game is still surely going to be NTR regardless of whether or not the husband is present at all, the wife will still be cheating behind his back. You could argue what specific sub-division of NTR it'd fall into, but is the sort of person who won't buy games because they hate netorare really going to fork out money just because you assure them that your game isn't really netorare? Maybe I'm just confused by what 'making the true NTR scenes avoidable' actually means.

It's fair enough that you want to make a profit, no one can begrude anybody that, but I would've thought with this plot it'd make more sense to try and appeal to those who like NTR but not futa, rather than the opposite.

I don't want to make a profit at all, if I ever did I would find a way to either put it back into the game or donate it to the advantage of the NTR fetish with random commissions for art or translations or something. I'm making a big loss financially on my current project (Swing & Miss) and that's completely fine with me since they're passion projects. I don't want to pay my bills with these projects, but it shouldn't be that I can't pay my bills anymore because of these projects. So I do have to somewhat take into consideration what "sells". And there not being any purely Futa NTR games at all does say something about its popularity.

A decent portion of the futa fans I've polled would be okay with a cheating game with a futa, but not a "chastity cuckold title", as in a heavy focus on the male protagonist watching his wife being taken.

 

[Animefan_09]

http://blog.livedoor.jp/j_tuukoudome/archives/1074082729.html update, and the previous entry was also changed i think, anyone what does he say?!!!

 

[Yosef30]

I don't want to make a profit at all, if I ever did I would find a way to either put it back into the game or donate it to the advantage of the NTR fetish with random commissions for art or translations or something. I'm making a big loss financially on my current project (Swing & Miss) and that's completely fine with me since they're passion projects. I don't want to pay my bills with these projects, but it shouldn't be that I can't pay my bills anymore because of these projects. So I do have to somewhat take into consideration what "sells". And there not being any purely Futa NTR games at all does say something about its popularity.

A decent portion of the futa fans I've polled would be okay with a cheating game with a futa, but not a "chastity cuckold title", as in a heavy focus on the male protagonist watching his wife being taken.

Futa is great. NTR is great. But with such a heavy focus on actually watching- to me it turns into a NTR: type A game and there's no real room for a lot of good fetishes normally present in more mystery NTR... I like the discreet behind the back sex away from the protagonist if it's shown in a good way and not a constant switching of perspectives which is a little lazy.. gradual corruption where a character is reluctant at first. And the MC not knowing a character is a futa is a lot of untapped potential that I don't see even in doujins. Leaving a wife at home with a old friend- both can discover something new in so many ways and the MC could come back to a surprise... It's great you're making a game with futa and I'll support you all the way- but I do feel the max potential of the futa genre is lost with a typeA and with the protagonist already knowing the action is happening . Still looking forward to what comes of it.

 

[mrecchiman]

Exactly what I came on to post. It's a great chance to suggest some of your most wanted titles.

I choose

Kabe no Mukou no Tsuma 1
Tsumamgui 3
Marina 2

Hello, anyone knows what's new in the DLC for: 僕に抱かれ喘ぐ妻は、他の男に抱かれた話を紡ぐ 追加シナリオDLC?
http://www.getchu.com/soft.phtml?id=1036543 Thanks!

Actually not much. 3 short stories, no choices given.

 

[maddogrd]

Anyone play Guild Tatics https://www.dlsite.com/ecchi-eng/work/=/product_id/RE238411.html by Bell Voice? If so does anyone know how to get the scenes with the long brown hair girl with blue eyes and rides a dragon.

 

[ntrpotato]

I choose

Kabe no Mukou no Tsuma 1
Tsumamgui 3
Marina 2



Actually not much. 3 short stories, no choices given.

Does the wife actually get stolen in any of the stories?

 

[MerrilMan]

A decent portion of the futa fans I've polled would be okay with a cheating game with a futa, but not a "chastity cuckold title", as in a heavy focus on the male protagonist watching his wife being taken.

As I've said it's your game and it's not my place to tell you how to make it. If your fans have told you something, it's common sense to act on it; it's hardly a secret that cheating/netori is the perhaps more widely accepted (or just least reviled) face of NTR among the uninitiated. I'm just not personally convinced how realistic it is to expect actual netorare from a third person narrative in what will essentially be a netori-driven plot. Still, it's not like the game is being actively developed yet and perhaps my concerns will turn out to be unfounded anyway, so I'm fine with letting you get on with it.

Anyone play Guild Tatics https://www.dlsite.com/ecchi-eng/work/=/product_id/RE238411.html by Bell Voice? If so does anyone know how to get the scenes with the long brown hair girl with blue eyes and rides a dragon.

They've moved on from simply 'lose-and-get-NTR'd'? Interesting.
I played the first Tactics Despair or whatever it was and honestly it wasn't great. While I loved the fact it's an SRPG, and as close to a NTR Fire Emblem game I'll get, as well some clever ideas like all the trap options (houses being full of enemies, ally units suddenly switching sides, etc) and the heroines joining the villain in fighting you at the end, the whole quality of it was really poor. Obviously the graphics are still just ripped from 3DCG but has the rest improved at all would you say?

 

[maddogrd]

As I've said it's your game and it's not my place to tell you how to make it. If your fans have told you something, it's common sense to act on it; it's hardly a secret that cheating/netori is the perhaps more widely accepted (or just least reviled) face of NTR among the uninitiated. I'm just not personally convinced how realistic it is to expect actual netorare from a third person narrative in what will essentially be a netori-driven plot. Still, it's not like the game is being actively developed yet and perhaps my concerns will turn out to be unfounded anyway, so I'm fine with letting you get on with it.



They've moved on from simply 'lose-and-get-NTR'd'? Interesting.
I played the first Tactics Despair or whatever it was and honestly it wasn't great. While I loved the fact it's an SRPG, and as close to a NTR Fire Emblem game I'll get, as well some clever ideas like all the trap options (houses being full of enemies, ally units suddenly switching sides, etc) and the heroines joining the villain in fighting you at the end, the whole quality of it was really poor. Obviously the graphics are still just ripped from 3DCG but has the rest improved at all would you say?

It isn't to different from the others it still has to many enemies that are to strong so I had to use cheat engine to cheat on health but the way the heriones get captured was different in this one. The short brown hair one you after completing a mission and going to to next mission you have to say you didn't get the 500 gold to join the guild and she will start sleeping with the guild mater for money and for your sister the blonde girl when in the map let the guild master reach her and he will rape her and found out you have to lose on the map 7 to get long brown hair girl ntr.

 

[mrecchiman]

Does the wife actually get stolen in any of the stories?

Don't think so. Might be more accurate to say these are side-stories to the main game so what's shown here are just extra details of some of the routes. They don't have impact on the main game's ending(s)

 

[stupid_army]

Unless I wasn't paying attention I don't think this has been posted yet but a friendly reminder that MangaGamer has opened up a survey for licensing requests

https://twitter.com/MangaGamer/status/1102703687632384002

On page 3 you can request up to 3 suggestions

There's also a field to suggest a visual novel developer (or developers) with an existing relationship with MangaGamer you would like to see more titles from

e.g. AliceSoft or Waffle or Atelier Sakura

As well as another field to suggest a particular visual novel developer without an existing relationship with MangaGamer you'd like to see titles from

e.g. Orcsoft or ANIM.teamMM

i ask
1) Boku no kanojo wa gatenkei
2) Marina 2
3) Hartful Maman

for studio i ask them to make more from atelier sakura. Alicesoft is close to them already :D

 

[Infidelisoft]

Futa is great. NTR is great. But with such a heavy focus on actually watching- to me it turns into a NTR: type A game and there's no real room for a lot of good fetishes normally present in more mystery NTR... I like the discreet behind the back sex away from the protagonist if it's shown in a good way and not a constant switching of perspectives which is a little lazy.. gradual corruption where a character is reluctant at first. And the MC not knowing a character is a futa is a lot of untapped potential that I don't see even in doujins. Leaving a wife at home with a old friend- both can discover something new in so many ways and the MC could come back to a surprise... It's great you're making a game with futa and I'll support you all the way- but I do feel the max potential of the futa genre is lost with a typeA and with the protagonist already knowing the action is happening . Still looking forward to what comes of it.

The protagonist doesn't know it's happening. I personally don't like mystery at all though, I don't like not knowing what's happening until the end I absolutely hate having to play the game again for the wife's perspective. It's why I would never play a Jinsei game even though it hits all my other buttons.

As I've said it's your game and it's not my place to tell you how to make it. If your fans have told you something, it's common sense to act on it; it's hardly a secret that cheating/netori is the perhaps more widely accepted (or just least reviled) face of NTR among the uninitiated. I'm just not personally convinced how realistic it is to expect actual netorare from a third person narrative in what will essentially be a netori-driven plot. Still, it's not like the game is being actively developed yet and perhaps my concerns will turn out to be unfounded anyway, so I'm fine with letting you get on with it.

It's at its infancy, but it's being actively developed.

 

[Yosef30]

The protagonist doesn't know it's happening

This alleviates most all of my fears for the game. I'm perfectly fine with detail of scenes as they happen- don't need to fully be in the protags shoes. The drama that comes with internal thoughts- conversation between the wife changing gradually, and the big reveal is what makes NTR what it is I suppose.. There's just no other route but humiliation if the character knows it's happening from the get-go and then it becomes Netorase or something that brings up questions about why the protagonist doesn't act a certain way or do certain things.

Anyway- hope development continues on pace and the project survives. Too many times creator contact is lost and it all slips into obscurity and never finished. Will be rooting for your success.

 

[Animefan_09]

The protagonist doesn't know it's happening. I personally don't like mystery at all though, I don't like not knowing what's happening until the end I absolutely hate having to play the game again for the wife's perspective. It's why I would never play a Jinsei game even though it hits all my other buttons.


It's at its infancy, but it's being actively developed.

You do know you can play all the important jinsei games from the girl's POV from the begining right? Sure most of the time you get the guiy's first but is like 5 or 10 min then you see girl's, so you should TOTALLY go and play 1 right now!!!!!

 

[Lianai]

Hi everyone!

I'm playing 姫様と警備兵 / The Princess & The Guard right now and I found the 4 first ending, but I can't find the last two (End 5 and 6). Do you know how to unlock these two? I think I've used all choices so I can't find how to do it :D

EDIT: Just forget it, I didn't see the new option in the menu that gives the two last endings :P

 

[Animefan_09]

https://exhentai.org/g/1376760/0b724c4030/ so i have only "read" the first pages but it looks interesting, at least is not how MC is usually shown specially with netorare

 

[Shadovv]

Guys, does anyone have:
https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ171453.html I have 3.2 JAP, older engine, any English version?
https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ032596.html
?

 

[jackbw0890]

I’d appreciate some help finding a doujin I read a while back. Sorry if this isn't much to go with -
• The MC is secretly fucking two sisters he’s tutoring (I think each is oblivious about the other dating the same guy)
• He goes to tutor them in their house, and one day, when both of them are out, he starts relationship with their mom, over a game iirc. I remember the mom’s name being Reika.
• Reika used to be an air hostess and pulls some strings with her friends still in the industry to book themselves (her and the teacher) an entire first class cabin and go at it the whole flight.
• The daughters later find out the MC is doing them all and demand he choose one of them. They decide that he then fuck all of them then and there, and whoever gets pregnant gets to be his gf (hentai logic, don’t ask).
• They all get pregnant at the same time, and happy end, I guess.

Read in exhentai a few months ago, but I can't seem to find it anymore. I don't remember the title. If anyone knows of it, a link would be much appreciated.

 

[Taxel]

I’d appreciate some help finding a doujin I read a while back. Sorry if this isn't much to go with -
• The MC is secretly fucking two sisters he’s tutoring (I think each is oblivious about the other dating the same guy)
• He goes to tutor them in their house, and one day, when both of them are out, he starts relationship with their mom, over a game iirc. I remember the mom’s name being Reika.
• Reika used to be an air hostess and pulls some strings with her friends still in the industry to book themselves (her and the teacher) an entire first class cabin and go at it the whole flight.
• The daughters later find out the MC is doing them all and demand he choose one of them. They decide that he then fuck all of them then and there, and whoever gets pregnant gets to be his gf (hentai logic, don’t ask).
• They all get pregnant at the same time, and happy end, I guess.

Read in exhentai a few months ago, but I can't seem to find it anymore. I don't remember the title. If anyone knows of it, a link would be much appreciated.

i think you are talking about this one? https://nhentai.net/g/111082/ not ntr though

 

[FrankFastFingers]

Hello!
Can't hook Share Girl House ~Minna ni Share Sareta Boku no Kanojo~ ( https://vndb.org/v24971 ) with Visual Nover Reader. Following all the general VNR hooking rules and have never encountered this problem after 20+ titles.
Any advice? Maybe there's another good program I might be using for this game?

 

[MerrilMan]

Hello!
Can't hook Share Girl House ~Minna ni Share Sareta Boku no Kanojo~ ( https://vndb.org/v24971 ) with Visual Nover Reader. Following all the general VNR hooking rules and have never encountered this problem after 20+ titles.
Any advice? Maybe there's another good program I might be using for this game?

I use a combination of ITHVNR and Translation Aggregator, works on most everything that can be hooked. I know it can hook that game but I haven't played it through yet so I don't know if it'll have any problems later.

 

[Siegfried]

Maybe there's another good program I might be using for this game?

Lately I've been using Textractor. It calls itself an "Update of ITHVNR." It hasn't let me down yet. It'll even hook unpatched RPG Maker MV games and TyranoBuilder games.

 

[FrankFastFingers]

A heartfelt thanks firends!