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Anime Sharing - Netorare General Discussion Thread

straight.shota said:
I don't know why you think Souma thinks Haruna is not a virgin. He never really noticed Haruna wasn't a virgin during the sex scene. What part of the dialogue made you think that?!
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Well I assumed Souma knows about this virgin/purity stuff. But well maybe he don't know about it in the first place. I guess that's about it.

straight.shota said:
. Where's the sweaty heroine that is suspiciously nervous, the white marks on her lips, the sexy underwear that she normally wouldn't be wearing, the suspicious sound you hear through the phone (there was one scene like this, but it was really lackluster), the heroine not showing for a date or coming late... etc... (you know what I'm talking about). There was nothing like that in this game
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Nao definitely forgot all of that. He was too focused on the new moving CG animation on this game.
 
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~SPOILER~

I'd like to point out, that his Nao's worldbuilding was excellent as always. I really enjoyed the lighthearted introductory part. Which is why i was so hyped about the NTR that was supposed to tear down those nice fluffy feelings lmao.
But the reason for the NTR is just sooo fucking dumb i can't handle it. It makes Haruna look offensively stupid. She had her reasons, why she stayed with the other girls but then learned to find her own footing just to throw it all away in the end? What's the opposite of progression? Because that was definitely it. Like at one scene she literally begs Souma's Dad to impregnate her so that they can all stay together and build a happy family for him? What? That's comically dumb.
Honestly, I'm just so angry because the game had incredible potential. But Nao really needs to work on the FMC characterization and stop making them look borderline retarded.

Also the red Text was an unnecessary gimmick.

On another note. Can someone more versed in Japanese than me explain to me, how "桃" can be read as "Haruna"? I never encountered the name written like this. Often it's a combination of the Kanji for spring and some other one.
 
Haruna is definitely the dumbest heroine Nao ever made lol

I'm a bit hyped for the Plus sequel with Mikoto because as Light316 said married woman NTR is always way more stronger and erotic than JK NTR. I mean Haruna is like 17yo? At that age a lot of pretty and popular girls like her will have sex with so many men before she settle with someone. JK NTR is really not doing it for me most of the time, unless it's a very pure girl like Chise for example. Even Misao was pretty bad for an heroine to be honest.
 
So I just finished the new Nao game(thanks again [MENTION=133210]sugar944[/MENTION]) and... yea, I'm a bit split on this one myself. Generally VENUS games are a home-run for me both story wise and CG wise but this one... I think I can't really much add to what is already been said by the other thread members so I'll simply sum my impression like so:

I feel just like how I felt when I first finished Kashidashi Tsuma Marina 3 for the first time. No, I'm not drawing parallels with story but more in the sense of my post-finale impression: A1 sex scenes, absolutely bonker storyline that went into a tail spin cause author went overboard with characters and their development. In short, people who "Ctrl hold" games, will love it cause they are just their for the fap scenes. Most other serious NTR fans who actually enjoy the read are going to facepalm the entire way to the end. :akazukin_down:
 
straight.shota said:
I don't know why you think Souma thinks Haruna is not a virgin. He never really noticed Haruna wasn't a virgin during the sex scene. What part of the dialogue made you think that?!

I just finish the "Mystery" part and I'm beginning to understand why people are annoyed by this game. I'll play Haruna's POV before writing a full review, but so far I have to ask one thing: Where is the mystery part of the mystery part?! Seems like Nao was so busy writing a coming-of-age story that totally forgot about it. Seriously, if you take out the obvious hinting at Haruna's mother cheating in front of the store, the second option in the last choice of the game, and don't tell anyone this is NTR; No one would ever imagine Haruna was cheating on Soma... even with all the lies in red. It doesn't help that Haruna has a very monotonous voice and that can lie with a poker face.

I think just knowing the heroine is lying is not enough, you have to give hints of why she's lying, what she was doing, with whom, for what reason... etc... without revealing the whole truth. Where's the sweaty heroine that is suspiciously nervous, the white marks on her lips, the sexy underwear that she normally wouldn't be wearing, the suspicious sound you hear through the phone (there was one scene like this, but it was really lackluster), the heroine not showing for a date or coming late... etc... (you know what I'm talking about). There was nothing like that in this game. Nao relied completely on the red text, and that's what annoys me, because I almost feel like I wasted my time by reading the whole 5.00 version (that I should have just kept playing the Skip mode).
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Oh man, you just destroyed the game for me.
The worst mystery ntr games I've played are the ones where nothing is hinted at (the stuff you wrote about), literally no pieces of evidence, no double entendre, no corruption, nothing. Just happy go lucky stuff.
Why.
 
Alright, I kinda spoiled myself to my detriment (benefit?) on the new VN by Venus. I'll probably put that on the back-burner for now because I'm definitely a little unimpressed with the direction it seems to go. Might go back to reading Utakata no Tsubomi for the time being. :D
 
Iowa said:
Haruna is definitely the dumbest heroine Nao ever made lol

I'm a bit hyped for the Plus sequel with Mikoto because as Light316 said married woman NTR is always way more stronger and erotic than JK NTR. I mean Haruna is like 17yo? At that age a lot of pretty and popular girls like her will have sex with so many men before she settle with someone. JK NTR is really not doing it for me most of the time, unless it's a very pure girl like Chise for example. Even Misao was pretty bad for an heroine to be honest.
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IDK why you bringing up IRL western schoolgirls into this. The romance between two virgins is the purest sort of a relationship and the only type of "true love". A wife who settles down for you after riding a bunch of different men is hardly romantic and can make any NTR worse unless it's something she's been keeping a secret while pretending to be pure and innocent. This is why in most NTR games a wife usually never was with anyone other than her husband. And it's actually the norm for Japan. Japanese on average have way fewer sexual partners than westerners and 1/3 of them are still virgins at 30—both men and women. Having a bunch of hookups in your late teens is a western thing, part of the reason why it's pretty much impossible to find a good wife in most western countries. Of course, it's a different thing if your fetish is closer to cuckolding and submission. Netorare in general is more about betrayal and corruption than enjoying being a cuck—something rarely seen in Japanese games but very common for OELVN ntr.

The problem with wife ntr is that usually there's barely any build up. As if you, as a reader, should get attached to the heroine just because she has the status of a wife. In JK ntr authors usually actually put some effort to make you care.
 
Maybe a little off-topic but, do you guys know any good fantia/pixiv fanbox artists that focus on old man/dilf X young girl/hotwife stuff?! Even if it's not NTR. I'm looking for more artists like Kishi or Nabuu

Thanks in advance

Edit: Ugly bastard x hot girl works too.
 
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I am disappointed with Jinsei new audio drama. Their sound recording quality isn't as good with their VN. And their story is just BSS NTR withoit many gimmick. They should make html page for audio and image instead just seperates them into different folder.

On the other hand , i found this good NTR audio drama. The story is about Married couple who move to isolated village and she become cursed by local god from that village. Well you know the rest what will happened to her. The theme reminds me to Sanbun Kyoden's Sayuki or Orcsoft's Kagachi sama, and the voice actress has hot voice too and recorded with good quality.

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https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ351715.html
 
Yadoumi said:
Heiantei just opened the web for their new game:

http://syuntada.com/tumahaha/kinue_top.html

I think it has the potential to be their best game in years, heroine looks like Yoshino, not only the design, personality too, she's arrogant and the president of a company.
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Based on title and characters, heroine is the real mother of MC's wife right ? Not some bullshit remarried partner like this ?
 
Light316 said:
Based on title and characters, heroine is the real mother of MC's wife right ? Not some bullshit remarried partner like this ?
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Yes, she's her real mother.

Since all the text is in images, I translated the web in case someone is interested:

Title:

My Wife's Mother ～Living with an Arrogant Female President～

Synopsis:

The Motomiyas are one of the most important families in the region.
The 17th head of the family is a woman, Motomiya Kinue. She's also the president of one of the biggest companies in the region.
The protagonist, Motomiya Mamoru, marries Kinue's only daughter, Motomiya Maki, and starts living in the Motomiya's house.
One day Kinue says something to the protagonist, and there begins the fall of the arrogant female president.

Characters:

- Motomiya Kinue (Heroine) , voiced by Aoi Tokio.

She's the head of one of the most important families in the region and the president of one of the biggest companies.
She has power and money, and that makes her arrogant and prideful.
She has to be very careful in everything she does because at the slightest mistake people will start saying that a woman cannot hold such an important position.
Despite her arrogant personality, she is always kind to her husband and daughter.

- Motomiya Mamoru (Protagonist)

He's Kinue's son-in-law.
He married Kinue's daughter, Maki, after meeting her at a cram school where he worked part-time during his college days.
Now he lives with Kinue and her family. He also works in Kinue's company.
Kinue didn't want her daughter to marry him, so he's working hard to be accepted by her.

- Motomiya Maki (Protagonist's wife) , voiced by Himejima Kotomi.

Kinue's daughter and protagonist's wife.
She's an only child, and that makes her a bit of a spoiled person.
She fell in love with the protagonist at first sight.
Kinue didn't want her to marry him, but Maki said that she would run away with him, so Kinue ended up accepting the marriage.
She is currently pregnant and is in the hospital.

- Motomiya Tasuku (Kinue's husband)

Kinue's husband and Maki's father.
Like the protagonist, he entered the Motomiya family by marrying Kinue.
He loves painting. He's the director of the museum owned by the Motomiya family.
He's a generous and optimistic person and usually gives advice to the protagonist.
 
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Yadoumi said:
Yes, she's her real mother.

Since all the text is in images, I translated the web in case someone is interested:

Title:

My Wife's Mother ～Living with an Arrogant Female President～

Synopsis:

The Motomiyas are one of the most important families in the region.
The 17th head of the family is a woman, Motomiya Kinue. She's also the president of one of the biggest companies in the region.
The protagonist, Motomiya Mamoru, marries Kinue's only daughter, Motomiya Maki, and starts living in the Motomiya's house.
One day Kinue says something to the protagonist, and there begins the fall of the arrogant female president.

Characters:

- Motomiya Kinue (Heroine) , voiced by Aoi Tokio.

She's the head of one of the most important families in the region and the president of one of the biggest companies.
She has power and money, and that makes her arrogant and prideful.
She has to be very careful in everything she does because at the slightest mistake people will start saying that a woman cannot hold such an important position.
Despite her arrogant personality, she is always kind to her husband and daughter.

- Motomiya Mamoru (Protagonist)

He's Kinue's son-in-law.
He married Kinue's daughter, Maki, after meeting her at a cram school where he worked part-time during his college days.
Now he lives with Kinue and her family. He also works in Kinue's company.
Kinue didn't want her daughter to marry him, so he's working hard to be accepted by her.

- Motomiya Maki (Protagonist's wife) , voiced by Himejima Kotomi.

Kinue's daughter and protagonist's wife.
She's an only child, and that makes her a bit of a spoiled person.
She fell in love with the protagonist at first sight.
Kinue didn't want her to marry him, but Maki said that she would run away with him, so Kinue ended up accepting the marriage.
She is currently pregnant and is in the hospital.

- Motomiya Tasuku (Kinue's husband)

Kinue's husband and Maki's father.
Like the protagonist, he entered the Motomiya family by marrying Kinue.
He loves painting. He's the director of the museum owned by the Motomiya family.
He's a generous and optimistic person and usually gives advice to the protagonist.
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- Heroine like Yoshino
- arrogant boss personality
- Easy- going type of father
- Maki Daikichi Art return (Hot Damn)

Yeah, this is a perfect setup of a Netori by Frame. Pretty sad knowing that MC'w wife probably will not have sex a scene like every other side heroines
 
Light316 said:
- Heroine like Yoshino
- arrogant boss personality
- Easy- going type of father
- Maki Daikichi Art return (Hot Damn)

Yeah, this is a perfect setup of a Netori by Frame. Pretty sad knowing that MC'w wife probably will not have sex a scene like every other side heroines
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If i remember correctly, Frame already confirmed that wife doesn't have any sex scene.
 
Light316 said:
@ Yadoumi . Why VNDB page list this game as partial voice ?
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In another vn I put fully voiced and someone edited it saying that fully means that every character has voice, and partially means that only the heroines has voice, so I put partially in this one, but is the same as always.
 
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In another vn I put fully voiced and someone edited it saying that fully means that every character has voice, and partially means that only the heroines has voice, so I put partially in this one, but is the same as always.
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First time I heard of that one, as most VNs don't have all characters voiced, even MCs when they're male.
Partial for me is just half the lines not voiced for one character.
 
It's more common in non-erotic VNs, for example FSN has VA on all characters (at least in the psp version).
In erotic VNs it's usually just the women that have voice acting, since their are the main intertest of the game.
 
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