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Anime Sharing - Netorare General Discussion Thread

I'll try to translate the character intros. Keep in mind that my translation might be not 100% correct though:

Top text:
A married couple with a sexless relationship (I don't understand if they are married for 6 years or are sexless for 6 years).
The wife wants a child but the economy of the house doesn't allow it.
The husband also wants to save some more money.

Cheerful and a little strong-willed wife
IWASE KAORI
Works in the supermarket three times a week
Has a bit of a tummy but persuades herself that's because of her age.
In her late thirties, she is the age of wanting to have a child,
but she doesn't tell her husband.

A little indecisive, go-with-the-flow main character
IWASE TATSUYA

Office worker of a small trade company with a low salary.
Gentle, sociable, and confrontational, but occasionally is also manly...?

Neat and tidy bitch wife (there's actually a Japanese word for this:清楚系ビッチ)
KAYABE YUUNA
The wife of Manzou that moved next door.
Has a docile and gentle aura but contrary to her appearance she's greedy for sex.
Works at night to earn money instead of her husband.

Chubby insatiable man.
KAYABE MANZOU

Plump, gentle appearance. (maybe: gentle appearance because he's plump)
Even though the belly looks, he is greedy for sex and has a big cock.
A bad husband that doesn't work during the day.

*I translated it as "insatiable" but the word is zetsurin 絶倫. I'm sure you've heard it, but in hentai, it refers to a man that can do it several times in a row (usually not even losing erection after every ejaculation).

I so can't fucking wait to hear Kaori's moaning through that oh so epic and infamous kabe wall!
 
Hey guys, thanks to the animteamMM announcement I'm in the mood for some swapping NTR in which the netori guy monopolizes both women. So apart from the Kabe series, are there any more visual novels like that?
 
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I truly hope swapping scheme of Kabe 3 will be more like in Kabe 2 than Kabe 1.
Swapping in Kabe 1 was TERRIBLE (as for die-hard mystery fan). Kabe 2 was more subtle, things happened behind the closed doors.
Where's the enjoyment, where's the sweet, slowly increasing tension, when you see other man's cock in your wife mouth after several minutes of gameplay? I don't know if you guys appreciate "mystery" in NTR-like games as much as I do, but seeing your wife cheating is the cherry on top - something that you can (should) voluntarily experience during gameplay or experience it involuntarily at the end.

If Kabe 3 will take the same route as Kabe 1, it means another huge dissapointment. If it will happen I will probably turn off the game and watch CG's on hitomi. Because even if game contains branching plot with full-ntr route, it may be the best route in VN's history, but for me, it just won't be the same, after big fuckup at the beginning.

Honestly, I don't have high hopes. Anim showed middle finger to their NTR fanbase long time ago, I feel like this game will be another jack of all trades, master of none, pretending to be everything you want, at the end giving you scraps from all genres, fully satisfying nobody.
 
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So... I am excited about kabe 3. Although i'm not a huge fan of swapping games, I liked how kabe series turns swapping into full netorare route. So i think i will enjoy it but I just wish the other guy is not ugly older guy. Younger guy taking over older woman would be better but oh well. I guess everyone has different wish list.
 
I truly hope swapping scheme of Kabe 3 will be more like in Kabe 2 than Kabe 1.
Swapping in Kabe 1 was TERRIBLE (as for die-hard mystery fan). Kabe 2 was more subtle, things happened behind the closed doors.
Where's the enjoyment, where's the sweet, slowly increasing tension, when you see other man's cock in your wife mouth after several minutes of gameplay? I don't know if you guys appreciate "mystery" in NTR-like games as much as I do, but seeing your wife cheating is the cherry on top - something that you can (should) voluntarily experience during gameplay or experience it involuntarily at the end.

If Kabe 3 will take the same route as Kabe 1, it means another huge dissapointment. If it will happen I will probably turn off the game and watch CG's on hitomi. Because even if game contains branching plot with full-ntr route, it may be the best route in VN's history, but for me, it just won't be the same, after big fuckup at the beginning.

Honestly, I don't have high hopes. Anim showed middle finger to their NTR fanbase long time ago, I feel like this game will be another jack of all trades, master of none, pretending to be everything you want, at the end giving you scraps from all genres, fully satisfying nobody.

Well, it looks like the wife route will be locked until you reach a certain point in the male POV, so I'm hoping the mystery will be legit...but yeah, agreed that ANIM has been hit and miss
 
I truly hope swapping scheme of Kabe 3 will be more like in Kabe 2 than Kabe 1.
Swapping in Kabe 1 was TERRIBLE (as for die-hard mystery fan). Kabe 2 was more subtle, things happened behind the closed doors.
Where's the enjoyment, where's the sweet, slowly increasing tension, when you see other man's cock in your wife mouth after several minutes of gameplay? I don't know if you guys appreciate "mystery" in NTR-like games as much as I do, but seeing your wife cheating is the cherry on top - something that you can (should) voluntarily experience during gameplay or experience it involuntarily at the end.

If Kabe 3 will take the same route as Kabe 1, it means another huge dissapointment. If it will happen I will probably turn off the game and watch CG's on hitomi. Because even if game contains branching plot with full-ntr route, it may be the best route in VN's history, but for me, it just won't be the same, after big fuckup at the beginning.

Honestly, I don't have high hopes. Anim showed middle finger to their NTR fanbase long time ago, I feel like this game will be another jack of all trades, master of none, pretending to be everything you want, at the end giving you scraps from all genres, fully satisfying nobody.
TBH these are some of the main reasons I'm not into most swapping games :
- most of them don't feel ntr to me, just happy go lucky sex between couples.
- no mystery.
- I like it better when mc doesn't have any sex whatsoever, so basically netori dude get his wife and mc's wife.

If here, it has mystery, and the "swapping" phase is short before everything goes back to normal (and then the ntr with mystery begins), I will probably like, otherwise a sex fest would be meh to me.
 
Wait, which part in the source they mentioned this ? Can't read Japanese LOL

今作は、隣家との夜中の騒音トラブルからなぜか『見せ合い』をすることになるところから始まります。次第にエロを競い合うような過激な関係になっていく2組の夫婦……。
やがてその関係はお互いの妻を交換する『スワッピング』へと発展し、より深みへとハマっていくことに……。
ゲームは選択肢によって分岐するオーソドックスなAVG。
「夫」である主人公視点で進行し、ストーリーに伴って「妻」視点が解放されていきます。妻があの時どう感じていたのか……。2つの視点で語られるスワッピングストーリーをどうぞお楽しみください。

DeepL Translation:
This work begins with a noise problem with a neighbor's house in the middle of the night, and for some reason they decide to "show each other". The two couples start to compete with each other in eroticism and get into an extreme relationship.
Eventually, their relationship develops into a "swapping" game where they exchange their wives with each other, and the game goes deeper and deeper.
The game is an orthodox AVG with branching options.
The game progresses from the main character's point of view as the husband, and the wife's point of view is released as the story progresses. How did the wife feel at that time? Please enjoy the swapping story told from two different perspectives.

Remembering being hyped about Boku ni Dakare Aegu Tsuma wa... when in the end the game tried to be the jack of all trades - half of this (that part was so good), third of that plus someting else and I've got a feeling of incomplete game. Then was Ore no Kanojo wa Taninbou ga Ki ni Naru You Desu - that was much worse (though it wasn't my setting) and I have no idea what the game tried to be. Worth mentioning that some scenes were bombastic! Without doubt this time we'll get awesome H-scenes but about the plot all we can hope crossing our fingers, ANIM.teamMM don't fuck this up. :) 5/02 we'll get some more info. Until then all the rest will be just fantasies.
 
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Remembering being hyped about Boku ni Dakare Aegu Tsuma wa... when in the end the game tried to be the jack of all trades - half of this (that part was so good), third of that plus someting else and I've got a feeling of incomplete game. Then was Ore no Kanojo wa Taninbou ga Ki ni Naru You Desu - that was much worse (though it wasn't my setting) and I have no idea what the game tried to be.

I remember Ore no Kanojo very well. At first it was "meh, I would love milf heroines instead of HS girls", then heroines won me over. From the first announcements, game had strong vannila vibe, but hey! It was TeamMM with their glorious flow-chart. Even in the day of release I still had hope that Anim didn't forget about us.

When I look back, I realize that it's a little bit sad. I mean after 2017 (Homestay 1) it was like:
Hey boiii, do you want some netorase? Hold this brand new title!
Straight shota? No problemo! We made a new game, especially for you!
Highschool swapping? Got It! We have something fresh!
Oooh and... ntr fan, right? Umm... How about Daniel Garcia? I know you hate him, but we hope this time you'll get along.
Daniel fucking Garcia after two years of waiting. Thanks.
Almost 2 years (release date) passed and we have another sequel. OK, it's a sequel of very nice series, but on the other hand, we can't even predict which route this game will take. Even if they assure us about NTR content, we can't be 100% sure, that this will match our tastes the same way like other NTR titles. Like i wrote earlier, when game is based on swapping, you-just-can't-be-sure.


I know I'm exaggerating, but I know this company very well, I know what they are capable of in terms of Netorare. When it comes to this fetish, I have no doubts, this company is top tier. I just can't help but complain.
 
Ah, fellow Neutral Actor appreciator. Its Hitoi magnum opus. I hope he write more.

Try the classic stuff
https://vndb.org/v8731 (the masterpiece of the genre, long and full of drama)
https://vndb.org/v470
https://vndb.org/v8280
https://vndb.org/v6593
https://vndb.org/v15167
https://vndb.org/v7747

And then try games from AnimTeamMM and Atelier Sakura.
https://vndb.org/v5160 (personal favorite)
https://vndb.org/v22292 (personal favorite)
https://vndb.org/v19735 (personal favorite)
https://vndb.org/v28126
https://vndb.org/v12949

More stuff: Egao no Riyuu (same developer as Iroyoridori). Oyako Rankan. Nettoteya. Koukan no Toriko-tachi.

Have fun.

Holy actual fuck. I just played through a couple of the games. A bunch of them were pretty good. But damn. https://vndb.org/v5160

This one. This one was literally everything I wanted. Thank you so much. SO SO SO much.
Spoilers ahead. I just feel like gushing about this game right now.
Here are the things I was looking for:
1)Reserved and Faithful Heroine. (Pretty common)
2)Heroine with good intentions, and is reluctant to betray boyfriend
3)Bad end for the heroine's boyfriend. I don't usually like when they end up happy together.

This game did all 3.

1) Common, but I'll still explain it. Studious vice president that is never late and wants to save herself for marriage. Even kissing. I love it. Very reserved. Very faithful.
2)Heroine just wanted to help the delinquent. She never had any intention to cheat or anything. She was slowly degraded and stolen away. She really just wanted to help. She never had to become a cheating bitch midway through. She was a good person all the way until the end. It really kept you thinking whether or not things would end well for the BF.
3)Herione's Boyfriend tries to get her back. But she already fell in love with the other guy. The best part is, the heroine broke up with him. So now she had guiltless loving sex. These scenes were so well done. I'll explain below.

The under the bed cuck scene with the Bf having to just watch their feet was the BEST cuck perspective I have ever seen.

And then the cruel scene after that where he tries to take her back, was so perfect. That moment when he refused to leave, you can tell she didn't care for him anymore and wanted to show him that there's no going back. The another great perspective where heroine is fucked directly in front of the protag. Beautiful.

One small thing is that I don't like when the BF and heroine stay together usually. I'll give this a pass, since he didn't go full cuckold and isn't enjoying getting cucked. That's again, just my preference.

Did I hide this part above properly on my post? Sorry if I did not.

Spoiler done

Holy shit I think I just love this company. I can't give this game enough love. It's so fucking good. Now my only question is that s there anything else like this? I love it so much. This question is for you and anyone else familiar with the game or the type of thing I am talking about.

Should I stick to Atelier Sakura? Some of their other games were good, but not quite what I wanted. With the endings and such. Don't get me wrong, they were still very enjoyable. I think it's just that I was looking for quite specific things.

Again, thank you. Thank you.

PS: re-read neutral actor. Chapter 2 has such a treat for anyone who re-read.

Look at her eyes here
https://nhentai.net/g/260912/7/

Now look at how her expression changes here on page 8. She just got OUT of character and stopped acting like her old self. Her real self revealed for just a moment there. The exhale might not mean as much first read through. But damn, once you see it. you see it. That's her "acting" exhale that she uses throughout the doujin series. What a perfect doujin series.
https://nhentai.net/g/260912/8/
 
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Holy actual fuck. I just played through a couple of the games. A bunch of them were pretty good. But damn. https://vndb.org/v5160

This one. This one was literally everything I wanted. Thank you so much. SO SO SO much.
Spoilers ahead. I just feel like gushing about this game right now.
***Hidden content cannot be quoted.***

Did I hide this part above properly on my post? Sorry if I did not.

Spoiler done

Holy shit I think I just love this company. I can't give this game enough love. It's so fucking good. Now my only question is that s there anything else like this? I love it so much. This question is for you and anyone else familiar with the game or the type of thing I am talking about.

Should I stick to Atelier Sakura? Some of their other games were good, but not quite what I wanted. With the endings and such. Don't get me wrong, they were still very enjoyable. I think it's just that I was looking for quite specific things.

Again, thank you. Thank you.

PS: re-read neutral actor. Chapter 2 has such a treat for anyone who re-read.

Look at her eyes here
https://nhentai.net/g/260912/7/

Now look at how her expression changes here on page 8. She just got OUT of character and stopped acting like her old self. Her real self revealed for just a moment there. The exhale might not mean as much first read through. But damn, once you see it. you see it. That's her "acting" exhale that she uses throughout the doujin series. What a perfect doujin series.
https://nhentai.net/g/260912/8/

I can't see the spoiler T_T
 
Holy actual fuck. I just played through a couple of the games. A bunch of them were pretty good. But damn. https://vndb.org/v5160

This one. This one was literally everything I wanted. Thank you so much. SO SO SO much.
Spoilers ahead. I just feel like gushing about this game right now.
Here are the things I was looking for:
1)Reserved and Faithful Heroine. (Pretty common)
2)Heroine with good intentions, and is reluctant to betray boyfriend
3)Bad end for the heroine's boyfriend. I don't usually like when they end up happy together.

This game did all 3.

1) Common, but I'll still explain it. Studious vice president that is never late and wants to save herself for marriage. Even kissing. I love it. Very reserved. Very faithful.
2)Heroine just wanted to help the delinquent. She never had any intention to cheat or anything. She was slowly degraded and stolen away. She really just wanted to help. She never had to become a cheating bitch midway through. She was a good person all the way until the end. It really kept you thinking whether or not things would end well for the BF.
3)Herione's Boyfriend tries to get her back. But she already fell in love with the other guy. The best part is, the heroine broke up with him. So now she had guiltless loving sex. These scenes were so well done. I'll explain below.

The under the bed cuck scene with the Bf having to just watch their feet was the BEST cuck perspective I have ever seen.

And then the cruel scene after that where he tries to take her back, was so perfect. That moment when he refused to leave, you can tell she didn't care for him anymore and wanted to show him that there's no going back. The another great perspective where heroine is fucked directly in front of the protag. Beautiful.

One small thing is that I don't like when the BF and heroine stay together usually. I'll give this a pass, since he didn't go full cuckold and isn't enjoying getting cucked. That's again, just my preference.

Did I hide this part above properly on my post? Sorry if I did not.

Spoiler done

Holy shit I think I just love this company. I can't give this game enough love. It's so fucking good. Now my only question is that s there anything else like this? I love it so much. This question is for you and anyone else familiar with the game or the type of thing I am talking about.

Should I stick to Atelier Sakura? Some of their other games were good, but not quite what I wanted. With the endings and such. Don't get me wrong, they were still very enjoyable. I think it's just that I was looking for quite specific things.

Again, thank you. Thank you.

PS: re-read neutral actor. Chapter 2 has such a treat for anyone who re-read.

Look at her eyes here
https://nhentai.net/g/260912/7/

Now look at how her expression changes here on page 8. She just got OUT of character and stopped acting like her old self. Her real self revealed for just a moment there. The exhale might not mean as much first read through. But damn, once you see it. you see it. That's her "acting" exhale that she uses throughout the doujin series. What a perfect doujin series.
https://nhentai.net/g/260912/8/

Glad you enjoyed it. https://vndb.org/v5160 is really well done hence why its one of my personal favorite. Regarding Atelier Sakura, they used to be a good developer but nowadays, they release eroge monthly which is a good thing and a bad thing. Good thing is we can have more games to enjoy but the bad thing is the games are hit and miss now. https://vndb.org/v28622 by far my biggest dissapointment of Atelier Sakura. But they did and will make decent game once in a while. Im also looking forward to their february release https://vndb.org/v30154

I dont have specific recommendation but maybe try https://vndb.org/v18047
 
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Should I stick to Atelier Sakura? Some of their other games were good, but not quite what I wanted. With the endings and such. Don't get me wrong, they were still very enjoyable. I think it's just that I was looking for quite specific things.
Well, well, well... someone has found for himself Atelier Sakura's games. So, here is my list of the best Atelier Sakura's games (in date order):

1) 他の男の精液で孕んでもいいですか…?3僕の知らない所でイキ狂っていた最愛彼女――生真面目な学園副会長――
2) 愛する妻、玲奈の浮気告白 『お、俺より気持ち良かったのか…?』→『…うん。凄かった』
3) 愛する妻、美咲の不倫証拠 『旦那とどっちが気持ちいい?』→『貴方の方が…あっ、ダメッ、またイちゃうッ…!』
4) 愛する妻、真理子が隣室で抱かれるまで ~あなたが知らない事、彼がたくさん教えてくれました~
5) 愛する妻が目の前で他人棒に貫かれ、よがり喘いでいく。ゴメンなさいあなた。でも、私気持ちいいの……
6) 貸し出し妻、満里奈の"ネトラセ"報告 敏感妻と絶倫大学生
7) 他の男の精液で孕むとき2 ―障子に映る、快感に悶え狂った妻の影―
8) 貸し出し妻、満里奈の"ネトラセ"報告2 CASE.元AV男優&敏感妻
9) 貸し出し妻、満里奈の"ネトラセ"報告3 CASE.元彼氏&敏感妻
10) 貸し出し妻、真由美の"ネトラセ"報告 敏感妻と不倫出張
11) 愛する妻、真理子の不倫報告 ~夫公認のガチ不倫SEX~

Of course there were some other good games from Atelier Sakura, but those are the best for me. Unfortunatly today AT only sometimes hits the spot, but before AT was just on another level...
 
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Minor news - but the Curse of Kubel dev shared that he's planning to release an updated version of the game with a fully voiced heroine + some other updates to the core game. Hoping he finishes his newest game first before that becomes his new time sink.
 
Glad you enjoyed it. https://vndb.org/v5160 is really well done hence why its one of my personal favorite. Regarding Atelier Sakura, they used to be a good developer but nowadays, they release eroge monthly which is a good thing and a bad thing. Good thing is we can have more games to enjoy but the bad thing is the games are hit and miss now. https://vndb.org/v28622 by far my biggest dissapointment of Atelier Sakura. But they did and will make decent game once in a while. Im also looking forward to their february release https://vndb.org/v30154

I dont have specific recommendation but maybe try https://vndb.org/v18047
Well, well, well... someone has found for himself Atelier Sakura's games. So, here is my list of the best Atelier Sakura's games (in date order):

1) 他の男の精液で孕んでもいいですか…?3僕の知らない所でイキ狂っていた最愛彼女――生真面目な学園副会長――
2) 愛する妻、玲奈の浮気告白 『お、俺より気持ち良かったのか…?』→『…うん。凄かった』
3) 愛する妻、美咲の不倫証拠 『旦那とどっちが気持ちいい?』→『貴方の方が…あっ、ダメッ、またイちゃうッ…!』
4) 愛する妻、真理子が隣室で抱かれるまで ~あなたが知らない事、彼がたくさん教えてくれました~
5) 愛する妻が目の前で他人棒に貫かれ、よがり喘いでいく。ゴメンなさいあなた。でも、私気持ちいいの……
6) 貸し出し妻、満里奈の"ネトラセ"報告 敏感妻と絶倫大学生
7) 他の男の精液で孕むとき2 ―障子に映る、快感に悶え狂った妻の影―
8) 貸し出し妻、満里奈の"ネトラセ"報告2 CASE.元AV男優&敏感妻
9) 貸し出し妻、満里奈の"ネトラセ"報告3 CASE.元彼氏&敏感妻
10) 貸し出し妻、真由美の"ネトラセ"報告 敏感妻と不倫出張
11) 愛する妻、真理子の不倫報告 ~夫公認のガチ不倫SEX~

Of course there were some other good games from Atelier Sakura, but those are the best for me. Unfortunatly today AT only sometimes hits the spot, but before AT was just on another level...


Thanks both of you, I'll keep this for future reference. As someone who's played basically all corruption/mind control games. NTR devs seem to just do it right so much more often. I guess it's more focused and easier to do.I feel like a kid in a candy store. Everything looks so good.