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Anime Sharing - Netorare General Discussion Thread

traversal said:
Textractor x64 is all you need to hook, there is 1 option with the VN text intertwined with HTML & CSS mark up. Keep this.

Under Extensions, ensure RegEx Filter is first in the list, especially before Copy to Clipboard so text is cleaned up prior to translation.

In the RegEx Filter window enter an acceptable regular expression pattern and click Save to clean up most or all noise. Examples:
Code: 
<[^>]+?>
<[^>]+?>|,sans-serif

Explanation:
* First removes all noise except occasional font-related word that is inline (not in HTML).
* Second enforces the first pattern, but also removes the string literal ,sans-serif.

You can improve upon the 2nd if it doesn't remove everything; I'm not intending to replay it, so I don't recall if there are cases where it isn't handled.
Use regex101.com or similar for help...or simply live with results, because it'll be a very occasional, ignorable word; 100% playable.
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Thanks a lot. It was 3AM, I was horny, and I'm bad with regex even for work. It was a long shot, thanks for coming through.
 
Yosef30 said:
Kegani laboratory game out any minute now. But it's got a 2400+ yen tag on fanza... Expensive for the dev. Hopefully that means lots of content.
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Gave the Kegani Labatory game a try. https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ400653.html

It feels like a better iteration of his old formula. There's less men for the FMCs to fuck, but makes up for it with deeper progression and variations on sex scene that simulates a FMCs corruption. The use of unique events in the form of puppets around the map is good. It makes the game feel alive. The game feels like an actual game. Also there's ENGLISH translation! Wow! Finally! It's not perfect English, but it's very much better than using MTL.

However, there's so many weaknesses inherent to the game design that I'm not going to persist the game in my hard drive or play it again.

a) You have to pretty much cuck yourself. The game is pretty easy once you figure out that you need to increase children production. There's some mental math you need to do to decide which "Raid" event to do to increase the Favor. FMCs basically won't get fucked by other dudes if you play properly. So when I realize that I pretty much won the game and the rest is just grind (I made the smaller girl my fiance and it was just 1-2 days from marriage ending), I just started losing on purpose to see the events. Turns out it's very hard to cuck yourself and took me a lot of skipping time.

b) There's no positive character development as usual. The only info you get is that these are your childhood friends, petite girl likes you, and busty girl likes to tease petite girl (she secretly crushes you, but only when you marry her after so many tedious "Chat" events with no dialog). NTR needs to be about destroying relationship and love. I don't root for the player and FMCs, since I have to purposely get them to marry me, then whore them out.

c) There's basically little to no love development between you and the FMCs. You have a pretty in-depth sex menu with Petite girl, but there's no character development. Women in these games feel like a sex doll rather than women with thoughts, feelings, aspirations, dreams (for you to defile, of course this is NTR). FMC's dont cry to you, asking you to hold them after being captured, raped, and train.

d) No permanent costumes (they're in h-history, but not while they're in town), no visible changes to the girls in town sex scenes even though they literally get branded with sexy things like nipple rings and lust marks. Breaks immersion. I want the girls to come back to me visibly broken, but they don't even feel alive since when they chat with me, the dialog is about the same.

At the end, great improvement from the old games. Clearly puts more effort than 95% of the products of there. But not "re-fappable"
 
Ok I think this is the latest swapping manga that caught my attention. The series also ongoing which ls also great.


Meanwhile in another ongoing manga, this author really build up the sex scene between the mom and her son. Already 4th chapter , no sex scene between them. Next chapter should be good.
 
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Wasn't impressed with the kegani laboratory game. The animations for whether it's player/marriage partner/bandit/fat guy/prostitution are just reused and the game is far too easy on every difficulty but the hardest one which just forces you to start losing after a while. But wasn't expecting a whole lot from them- their games have been hit and miss. Now to try this https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ417027.html - which just came out and picked up the rank #1 day trophy. This devs games have all been alright and interesting- but they sure switch artists around each time.
 
Yosef30 said:
Now to try this https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ417027.html - which just came out and picked up the rank #1 day trophy. This devs games have all been alright and interesting- but they sure switch artists around each time.
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Not too long ago I thought about how cool a NTR game could be if it was based on a premise like this lol. Guess I'll have to try

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Finished Haiiro Neko yesterday, didnt find the game very enticing even tho it had one of the things that I most enjoy, which is the girl describing what she was made to do to the protagonist, but bear in mind that I've been burning through a lot of games so fatigue might've been a reason. It has heartwarming endings despite the heavy themes which is a thing to appreciate about the developer imo

Also completed Natsugamike and even tho I got some things wrong I stand by the points I made earlier, and I've started playing plus content
She actually falls for the dad and wants to stay in a relationship with both but the ease with which a lot of decisions are made just to maintain a status quo made it somehow less fulfilling, a little bit of hesitation and then deliberate acting goes a long way. It also didnt sit well with me that in the ending the MC just takes it and we dont get to see his inner turmoil. Even tho it's very standard "scumbag runs over people" the scenes from plus have been working for me.
 
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Yosef30 said:
Wasn't impressed with the kegani laboratory game. The animations for whether it's player/marriage partner/bandit/fat guy/prostitution are just reused and the game is far too easy on every difficulty but the hardest one which just forces you to start losing after a while. But wasn't expecting a whole lot from them- their games have been hit and miss. Now to try this https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ417027.html - which just came out and picked up the rank #1 day trophy. This devs games have all been alright and interesting- but they sure switch artists around each time.
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Have you played it yet? How is it?
 
jaden123 said:
Have you played it yet? How is it?
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I have it, poked around with it so far. It potentially an excellent game. The only downside is there's A TON of images so you'd need OCR to capture the text to translate it. It seems to be a very complex game. I love the FMC so far. Dialog also on point. Premise is also excellent.
 
jaden123 said:
Have you played it yet? How is it?
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Assuming you mean RJ417027, then I found that, much like the circle's other works, it's simply a disappointing waste of what is a great structure.
The premise is interesting; you and your lover are agents sent undercover to a mansion to find evidence of the noble's widely rumored misdeeds. Your lover, Azami, is highly skilled and has that cool sort of personality which is always nice to see fall. The eight side heroines are also a mixture of tropes and relatively interesting in their various ambitions; I especially liked Karin with her amusing antics. Also, somewhat remarkably, all the heroines are almost entirely voiced which is obviously impressive for this kind of work. The art, too, is very nice.
And now, the problems. The premise is good, the actual game system itself is, potentially, interesting. Except in reality it is terribly, terribly, terribly dull. The basic system is this: You need to raise affection with the other maids to get their events, their events will have you find clues as to the location of the three keys needed to clear the game, while maxing their affection will have them confess to you and then promptly NTR'd. You have only three actions per day and, at night, the antagonist will have his way with a chosen maid.
The issue with this is that there are no stakes whatsoever. You can choose to 'peek', 'interrupt' or 'ignore' the encounter at night as you like, except interrupting carries no penalty. There is no time limit to the game. The side heroines will not be NTR'd save for an abrupt scene once their affection is maxed. Indeed, the game will never actually end until you find all the keys. In other words, even halfway through the game you're simply clicking mindlessly to advance a maid's affection once per day to get the clues you need to advance. And while I appreciate the attempt at mystery with Azami's scenes if, like me, you choose not to peek, it doesn't really matter. There are no daily scenes regarding her corruption, her personality does not change in your morning interactions, and she's actually barely present in the story itself as she remains locked away during the day. What's more, the side heroines only have two scenes themselves to begin with. Their automatic fall into NTR and then another corrupted scene which is locked, for some reason, behind their first scene happening another five times(!). Something which itself is reliant on the antagonist's random choice of maid each morning, unless you make use of the nun outside.
The actual evidence-search gameplay is also dreadfully dull, too. One can find the green key entirely by chance on the first day, while other clues are hidden randomly behind different events you have no way of guessing at. And even with all the clues I couldn't find the trick to getting the blue key either.
In the end, the premise is great. The system itself has potential and I do, personally, enjoy being able to lose an entire collection of heroines to a single opponent. But the game is just far too much of an unrewarding slog. In my opinion, save yourself some time and money and skip it. If nothing else, you can unlock the full gallery in the recollection screen by pressing Up five times, Down five times then Enter.
 
MerrilMan said:
Assuming you mean RJ417027, then I found that, much like the circle's other works, it's simply a disappointing waste of what is a great structure.
The premise is interesting; you and your lover are agents sent undercover to a mansion to find evidence of the noble's widely rumored misdeeds. Your lover, Azami, is highly skilled and has that cool sort of personality which is always nice to see fall. The eight side heroines are also a mixture of tropes and relatively interesting in their various ambitions; I especially liked Karin with her amusing antics. Also, somewhat remarkably, all the heroines are almost entirely voiced which is obviously impressive for this kind of work. The art, too, is very nice.
And now, the problems. The premise is good, the actual game system itself is, potentially, interesting. Except in reality it is terribly, terribly, terribly dull. The basic system is this: You need to raise affection with the other maids to get their events, their events will have you find clues as to the location of the three keys needed to clear the game, while maxing their affection will have them confess to you and then promptly NTR'd. You have only three actions per day and, at night, the antagonist will have his way with a chosen maid.
The issue with this is that there are no stakes whatsoever. You can choose to 'peek', 'interrupt' or 'ignore' the encounter at night as you like, except interrupting carries no penalty. There is no time limit to the game. The side heroines will not be NTR'd save for an abrupt scene once their affection is maxed. Indeed, the game will never actually end until you find all the keys. In other words, even halfway through the game you're simply clicking mindlessly to advance a maid's affection once per day to get the clues you need to advance. And while I appreciate the attempt at mystery with Azami's scenes if, like me, you choose not to peek, it doesn't really matter. There are no daily scenes regarding her corruption, her personality does not change in your morning interactions, and she's actually barely present in the story itself as she remains locked away during the day. What's more, the side heroines only have two scenes themselves to begin with. Their automatic fall into NTR and then another corrupted scene which is locked, for some reason, behind their first scene happening another five times(!). Something which itself is reliant on the antagonist's random choice of maid each morning, unless you make use of the nun outside.
The actual evidence-search gameplay is also dreadfully dull, too. One can find the green key entirely by chance on the first day, while other clues are hidden randomly behind different events you have no way of guessing at. And even with all the clues I couldn't find the trick to getting the blue key either.
In the end, the premise is great. The system itself has potential and I do, personally, enjoy being able to lose an entire collection of heroines to a single opponent. But the game is just far too much of an unrewarding slog. In my opinion, save yourself some time and money and skip it. If nothing else, you can unlock the full gallery in the recollection screen by pressing Up five times, Down five times then Enter.
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This is very eloquently put. My problem, 2 hours in, is "why am I forced to do events for x heroine?". I simply don't care about some of them. In my opinion, they should've made it so a) time is more of the essence. b) Azami is actually intractable and has progression to her being touched (or have a love meter too, so you actually feel like you're dating her with 3 choices to choose from) c) cut out heroines. There's 3 keys, make it 2 clues each. 6 heroine. You have to pick and choose which one to befriend.

I actually laughed out loud when the one girl i picked to advance and max got NTRed right away. Really good idea, but stupid execution. This circle is both really smart, and really dumb with its game-play decisions. I wish more companies iterate on this formula though.
 
I also played RJ417027 the premise and art are really good but something is missing like fmc ending up being whored out on the vip brothel by the baron or something else of this kind, maybe some tought of the mc when he is peeking . And just like MerrilMan
I don't know where the blue key is even after collecting all the clues ..... there is a rooom in front of the manor with some kind of old key but I can't open it and the rest of the clues are about a white tiger/digi code but probably sometinh behind that door so I'm stuck there .....
 
MerrilMan said:
Assuming you mean RJ417027, then I found that, much like the circle's other works, it's simply a disappointing waste of what is a great structure.
The premise is interesting; you and your lover are agents sent undercover to a mansion to find evidence of the noble's widely rumored misdeeds. Your lover, Azami, is highly skilled and has that cool sort of personality which is always nice to see fall. The eight side heroines are also a mixture of tropes and relatively interesting in their various ambitions; I especially liked Karin with her amusing antics. Also, somewhat remarkably, all the heroines are almost entirely voiced which is obviously impressive for this kind of work. The art, too, is very nice.
And now, the problems. The premise is good, the actual game system itself is, potentially, interesting. Except in reality it is terribly, terribly, terribly dull. The basic system is this: You need to raise affection with the other maids to get their events, their events will have you find clues as to the location of the three keys needed to clear the game, while maxing their affection will have them confess to you and then promptly NTR'd. You have only three actions per day and, at night, the antagonist will have his way with a chosen maid.
The issue with this is that there are no stakes whatsoever. You can choose to 'peek', 'interrupt' or 'ignore' the encounter at night as you like, except interrupting carries no penalty. There is no time limit to the game. The side heroines will not be NTR'd save for an abrupt scene once their affection is maxed. Indeed, the game will never actually end until you find all the keys. In other words, even halfway through the game you're simply clicking mindlessly to advance a maid's affection once per day to get the clues you need to advance. And while I appreciate the attempt at mystery with Azami's scenes if, like me, you choose not to peek, it doesn't really matter. There are no daily scenes regarding her corruption, her personality does not change in your morning interactions, and she's actually barely present in the story itself as she remains locked away during the day. What's more, the side heroines only have two scenes themselves to begin with. Their automatic fall into NTR and then another corrupted scene which is locked, for some reason, behind their first scene happening another five times(!). Something which itself is reliant on the antagonist's random choice of maid each morning, unless you make use of the nun outside.
The actual evidence-search gameplay is also dreadfully dull, too. One can find the green key entirely by chance on the first day, while other clues are hidden randomly behind different events you have no way of guessing at. And even with all the clues I couldn't find the trick to getting the blue key either.
In the end, the premise is great. The system itself has potential and I do, personally, enjoy being able to lose an entire collection of heroines to a single opponent. But the game is just far too much of an unrewarding slog. In my opinion, save yourself some time and money and skip it. If nothing else, you can unlock the full gallery in the recollection screen by pressing Up five times, Down five times then Enter.
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Thanks for explaining all these game. Playing with a translation software these mediocre artificial NTR rpgs games must be a pain in the ass. I'm a fan of NTR with detective type hero/heroine it just enables the mystery easily but can hardly find quality games using that plot device well enough.
 
Light316 said:
Not all necessarily NTR related but anyone here have a good game recommendation for corruption of arrogant/strict boss type like :

Tsuma no Haha ~Gouman Onna Shachou to Doukyo no Hibi~
Buka Ore x Onna Joushi/Kashidashi Play
Kouman Tsuma Kanraku!!!
Nureru Kotou ( I love this, heroine develop stockholm syndrome-ish in the end was really good )

This is probably my new fetishes lol
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You can try the arrogant heroine and corruption/NTR tag on VNDB to narrow your selection. You can also filter it by office heroine.

https://vndb.org/g375
 
MerrilMan said:
Assuming you mean RJ417027, then I found that, much like the circle's other works, it's simply a disappointing waste of what is a great structure.
The premise is interesting; you and your lover are agents sent undercover to a mansion to find evidence of the noble's widely rumored misdeeds. Your lover, Azami, is highly skilled and has that cool sort of personality which is always nice to see fall. The eight side heroines are also a mixture of tropes and relatively interesting in their various ambitions; I especially liked Karin with her amusing antics. Also, somewhat remarkably, all the heroines are almost entirely voiced which is obviously impressive for this kind of work. The art, too, is very nice.
And now, the problems. The premise is good, the actual game system itself is, potentially, interesting. Except in reality it is terribly, terribly, terribly dull. The basic system is this: You need to raise affection with the other maids to get their events, their events will have you find clues as to the location of the three keys needed to clear the game, while maxing their affection will have them confess to you and then promptly NTR'd. You have only three actions per day and, at night, the antagonist will have his way with a chosen maid.
The issue with this is that there are no stakes whatsoever. You can choose to 'peek', 'interrupt' or 'ignore' the encounter at night as you like, except interrupting carries no penalty. There is no time limit to the game. The side heroines will not be NTR'd save for an abrupt scene once their affection is maxed. Indeed, the game will never actually end until you find all the keys. In other words, even halfway through the game you're simply clicking mindlessly to advance a maid's affection once per day to get the clues you need to advance. And while I appreciate the attempt at mystery with Azami's scenes if, like me, you choose not to peek, it doesn't really matter. There are no daily scenes regarding her corruption, her personality does not change in your morning interactions, and she's actually barely present in the story itself as she remains locked away during the day. What's more, the side heroines only have two scenes themselves to begin with. Their automatic fall into NTR and then another corrupted scene which is locked, for some reason, behind their first scene happening another five times(!). Something which itself is reliant on the antagonist's random choice of maid each morning, unless you make use of the nun outside.
The actual evidence-search gameplay is also dreadfully dull, too. One can find the green key entirely by chance on the first day, while other clues are hidden randomly behind different events you have no way of guessing at. And even with all the clues I couldn't find the trick to getting the blue key either.
In the end, the premise is great. The system itself has potential and I do, personally, enjoy being able to lose an entire collection of heroines to a single opponent. But the game is just far too much of an unrewarding slog. In my opinion, save yourself some time and money and skip it. If nothing else, you can unlock the full gallery in the recollection screen by pressing Up five times, Down five times then Enter.
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This game is not THAT bad. You have a point ofc, but still it is above garbage.
Anyway, 780MB optimized 1.01 version is already being translated...
I have some questions:
1. I selected for girls that I love them and girls were whored by baron. What will happen if i chose otherwise? Girl has love letter icon only and that's all? EDIT: It will be whored anyway, just another way.
2. Can MC band somehow first maid? EDIT: no, only sexual encounter MC has is in bordello.
3. Whored girls have heart icon with number 5 going down each sex with Baron. What does it mean? EDIT: probably "total fall" and 2nd of 2 scene.
4. What is purpose of "nomination"?
 
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Shadovv said:
This game is not THAT bad. You have a point ofc, but still it is above garbage.
Anyway, 780MB optimized 1.01 version is already being translated...
I have some questions:
1. I selected for girls that I love them and girls were whored by baron. What will happen if i chose otherwise? Girl has love letter icon only and that's all? EDIT: It will be whored anyway, just another way.
2. Can MC band somehow first maid? EDIT: no, only sexual encounter MC has is in bordello.
3. Whored girls have heart icon with number 5 going down each sex with Baron. What does it mean? EDIT: probably "total fall" and 2nd of 2 scene.
4. What is purpose of "nomination"?
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I never said it was garbage, just that it was terribly dull. Which it is. If you're going to pirate it then, sure, all you've done is waste a few hours but there's no real reason to bother with it if you've anything else to play. I already said that I enjoyed the premise, that I even found some small amusement in it (Karin and Momo especially) and that overall the system had potential. But like the circle's other works it's just utterly shallow; there's little substance to the netorare, Azami has almost no presence in the actual story, and the 'gameplay' is largely just mindless busywork. People can just find the CG online and save themselves some time.
 
That is not good news. I mean, some artists who have a foot in both worlds are recognizable by their very distinctive art styles (I hear even the author of Dragon Ball has dabbled in doujinshi), but even then people mostly just look the other way.

Any real way to prevent this? I have a feeling petitions won't work as well as we want them to.
 
Light316 said:
This is some huge issue that happen right now, saw many Japanese creator signed the petition

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/in...nvoice-system-invites-loss-of-privacy/.189600

The article literally said ''People who use pennames will have to reveal their real names to public database in order to file verified invoices''. Any thought on how bad it will cause on doujinshi side ?
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Ok i hope they manage to overturn this, sadly these days "democracies" are that in paper only.
 
Light316 said:
This is some huge issue that happen right now, saw many Japanese creator signed the petition

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/in...nvoice-system-invites-loss-of-privacy/.189600



The article literally said ''People who use pennames will have to reveal their real names to public database in order to file verified invoices''. Any thought on how bad it will cause on doujinshi side ?
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If some maniac fans went full retard, they could doxx artist and harm them. And yes, that happened before.
 
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