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I appreciate a contrarian argument to my post, so I'll take my time to counter each point you make and break up your stream of consciousness into readable sections.
You say that there isnt "any programming skills to make this", yet you give one approach on how to do so. Even your approach of "basic pathfinding" requires programming knowledge and is, as you said outside of normal plugins. You already contradicted yourself within one sentence.
Your approach is also incorrect since the maps are multi-nodes rather than single path. Eg, FMC has to traverse a "map" with more than one path. Each of those paths can be influenced by a) rest spots, b) what you as MC do on the map such as making one path more attractive by defeating enemies, c) the stats of the FMC and d) by the difficulty of the enemies which is scale globally. Right here, that's complexit already and your statement of there isnt "any programming skills to make this" is completely incorrect since there is no plugin to do this.
I don't even need to elaborate on your "just a chain of if statements of each rooms potential surrounding destinations with RNG choice" since clearly to complete the feature I started above, is more than a chain of is statements.
This one is a bit closer to what I think they're probably doing. Probably a selected number of event states to choose from, though definitely not "basic RNG list" because there's complex conditions to trigger events, not just "corruption level" but requires previous events to have triggered.
I'm actually not sure what plugin they're using since the h-screens (upgrades 4-5 on the phone) hasn't been released yet. But I'd guess they're going to innovate, hopefully like Kubel. Even if they don't innovate, they're still writing code and programming and adding complexity. Not many h-games have ero stat menus, most do not.
This one here is just a lot of opinionated thoughts on whether RPGMaker development work on be considered "real programming", which I think many games I've listed above shows it can be. You don't need to write your own plugin, just have to put in effort to implement and write existing ones.
You say that there isnt "any programming skills to make this", yet you give one approach on how to do so. Even your approach of "basic pathfinding" requires programming knowledge and is, as you said outside of normal plugins. You already contradicted yourself within one sentence.
Your approach is also incorrect since the maps are multi-nodes rather than single path. Eg, FMC has to traverse a "map" with more than one path. Each of those paths can be influenced by a) rest spots, b) what you as MC do on the map such as making one path more attractive by defeating enemies, c) the stats of the FMC and d) by the difficulty of the enemies which is scale globally. Right here, that's complexit already and your statement of there isnt "any programming skills to make this" is completely incorrect since there is no plugin to do this.
I don't even need to elaborate on your "just a chain of if statements of each rooms potential surrounding destinations with RNG choice" since clearly to complete the feature I started above, is more than a chain of is statements.
This one is a bit closer to what I think they're probably doing. Probably a selected number of event states to choose from, though definitely not "basic RNG list" because there's complex conditions to trigger events, not just "corruption level" but requires previous events to have triggered.
I'm actually not sure what plugin they're using since the h-screens (upgrades 4-5 on the phone) hasn't been released yet. But I'd guess they're going to innovate, hopefully like Kubel. Even if they don't innovate, they're still writing code and programming and adding complexity. Not many h-games have ero stat menus, most do not.
This one here is just a lot of opinionated thoughts on whether RPGMaker development work on be considered "real programming", which I think many games I've listed above shows it can be. You don't need to write your own plugin, just have to put in effort to implement and write existing ones.
Yes, basic programming knowledge is needed, but it's the level of using RPGMaker's basic interface, like all visual scripting garbage it's all programming, they just trick people into thinking they aren't coding, because all programming is is logic. Looking at the actual "code" for her "decision making" it's common event 36, which seems to be a parallel loop that first waits based off the current speed, so the rest room speed up, and just waits 120 frames lowering the wait based off multiplier as an ugly if else spam, then it checks if it's in combat and plays the combat common event if so, then h and goes to h common event if so, checks if phone cooldown is greater than 0 if less after turns off a switch then if checks h cooldown greater than 0 and reduces if so, then checks if she is resting switch is on, if so increase "action counter" by 1 if it's 5 then check if bandage exists and type and use, sets variable to be equal to her current health and check if variable is = to max then turn off rest and turn on movement else check if health is above 70% and if so a number RNG 1 to 100 if less than 41 rest turns off, if above 50 nothing, else so 41 to 50, RNG 1 to 100 again if it's above the "harassment rate" variable and no h cooldown then turn on h happening, else if below 70% health, it does a long list of if else chains of rooms to put it inside the rest room based off the previous room number else if her "endurance" is below 50 do the h check above again. Now finally at the actual movement part if moving, add 1 "action counter", if greater than or equal to 5, it does a common event that checks the enemy room type, RNG a number 1 to 100, if the enemy room type is 0 and RNG is less than 86 it players the actual movement logic common event 40, then checks if she is the same spot for 6 or greater variable, does RNG 1 to 100 if 85 or higher she loses 3 to 6 RNG "endurance" variable. If less than 76 plays the fight common event 37.
As for the actual movement logic, it actually is pretty much as I said but less retarded at least, he uses a script command for the first time(I mean 36 had 0) to get around the terrible flaws of visual scripting and go to a common event based off whatever variable 60(which should be current location) has + 800, basic MV script command found in any document of it, so like 804 would be room 4 map 1 you are currently in or whatever. Assuming room 4 map 1 common event 804 is check if health above 40%, if it is check if door switch is on, if it is you are now in room 3, if not harassment rate +5, if room switch off it goes to 9. Now assuming you were moving from 9, same but instead it checks 3 different door switches on and has a long if else chain of different potential areas to go and it does RNG 1 to 100 and checks 100/amount of rooms possible, max 3 of room 9, so it is pure RNG if you turn on multiple door switches and is just massive ugly if else chain as said. Don't know why I bothered typing all that, it's just basic if else chains as I said with a single Javascript evaluated "goto" when it comes to the movement.
That's basic RPGMaker switch conditions, every game uses them, I don't think this has a plugin for more complex condition either.
They are just using the extra pages as if there were more than 1 ero stat character that plugin provides for a single character.
It's all "real programming", but programming is easy in the first place and the real "use" or whatever of programming is logic, in which RPGMaker and Javascript limit.
http://anonymto.com/?https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/announce/=/product_id/RJ392812.html
[HIDE-THANKS]https://mega.nz/file/QF5z2QrR#J-AwNwWfFFv_7CE7wLANiFVOA4mM70ZVURFW8g0NJUw[/HIDE-THANKS]
Optimized, latest DEMO of "Nebel Geisterjäger" patched to 1.0.3.
WARNING: THIS IS SPECIAL VERSION modified:
- pictures are in WebP
- most sound/music/voice is in Opus
- latest 0.65.0 sdk https://nwjs.io/ used
- injected auto-wordwrap plugin, good for auto-translators!
If you have issues, download demo+patch from the author and compare
Hotfix 1.0.3 patch notes:
[HIDE-THANKS]https://mega.nz/file/QF5z2QrR#J-AwNwWfFFv_7CE7wLANiFVOA4mM70ZVURFW8g0NJUw[/HIDE-THANKS]
Optimized, latest DEMO of "Nebel Geisterjäger" patched to 1.0.3.
WARNING: THIS IS SPECIAL VERSION modified:
- pictures are in WebP
- most sound/music/voice is in Opus
- latest 0.65.0 sdk https://nwjs.io/ used
- injected auto-wordwrap plugin, good for auto-translators!
If you have issues, download demo+patch from the author and compare
Hotfix 1.0.3 patch notes:
Patchnotes 1.0.2:
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So it isn't possible to get these in the demo uh, I thought that it could be unlocked with those heart thingies (like the 8 you found at the center part of the city) but couldn't make sense of how to collect them and how to avoid losing them, as I sometimes had more than 8 and sometimes less than 8.
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I just reread Closet by Yanakumo this morning. IIts still good as i remember. But now it make wish for him to continue this story haha. I hope Yamakumo sensei make another NTR manga.
Anyway, is there any NTR works you wish get another sequel??
Anyway, is there any NTR works you wish get another sequel??
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He did one, it just wasn't as good in my opinion, although at least it got a translation pretty fast (fakku)
It's probably never gonna get a part 2 but secret by laliberte. One of hottest and sluttiest fmc in a doujin I've read and art is splendid.
And
Kunoichi Yotogi Shugyou By salbakin
That's these 3 recs by the folks above me, for those of you who tried to find it. I'll need to read it later myself.
https://e-hentai.org/s/36b3b7b7ce/1859466-3
https://e-hentai.org/s/12cac0200a/1322873-4
https://e-hentai.org/g/2100106/39169b4ce5/
I just wanted to report on this game that's on sale on dlsite 借金返済はダンジョンで! https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ382432.html
Overall an above average game. There's card-based gameplay, stats, upgrades, strategies, etc.
However, a huge downside is there's no save system at all so if you get a Game Over, you'll need to restart (with SOME carryover stats). I ended up just using Cheat Engine to 2x the speed as well as get infinite stats.
The premise is pretty interesting. Better than most shit games. Still, corruption of Mother happens without real logic. The FMC also just whores herself out without much reluctance and afterwards there's no "What have I done?!" kind of moment. Just suck and fuck without any real sadness, shame, humiliations, and anger.
The boobs are also quite obese for my taste. It's as if Japanese people get different results when they type in "beautiful breasts" on their Google. I don't recommend buying.
https://e-hentai.org/s/36b3b7b7ce/1859466-3
https://e-hentai.org/s/12cac0200a/1322873-4
https://e-hentai.org/g/2100106/39169b4ce5/
I just wanted to report on this game that's on sale on dlsite 借金返済はダンジョンで! https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ382432.html
Overall an above average game. There's card-based gameplay, stats, upgrades, strategies, etc.
However, a huge downside is there's no save system at all so if you get a Game Over, you'll need to restart (with SOME carryover stats). I ended up just using Cheat Engine to 2x the speed as well as get infinite stats.
The premise is pretty interesting. Better than most shit games. Still, corruption of Mother happens without real logic. The FMC also just whores herself out without much reluctance and afterwards there's no "What have I done?!" kind of moment. Just suck and fuck without any real sadness, shame, humiliations, and anger.
The boobs are also quite obese for my taste. It's as if Japanese people get different results when they type in "beautiful breasts" on their Google. I don't recommend buying.
I'm waiting on vol 3 of Haruharudo's karate girl doujin. Vol 1 got me hopeful. I thought it had the right pace and a good setup. Vol 2 failed to deliver imo. Her degeneration should've escalated more than it did, given the author's plan to conclude the story in the next installment. We're now >6 months since vol 2's release, so I'm expecting an announcement any day now...
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Is it untitled Document? Hm... i don't hate it, but it's feels so so because Yamakumo doesn't look like planing for the sequel
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Ok first i am hearing about this, it will probably be leaked soon anyway, but apart from the game itself i woud also liek to hear impressions and how much contend is there already (very little i guess).
I am more excited about this game since the MC and the main heroine are in an actual relationship of boyfriend and girlfriend, HC2 was good ntr anyway but i still prefer when there is romance involved to be broken muahahahahahahaha
Well, according to what I have read in another forum, the developer says that there are 3-4 hours of content more or less, the truth is not bad at all for a first version.
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Well pretty sure i know wich forum and post that is since it was me asking there xD, dev said this version is tyoo rough and that they will publish the enxt one for all as a proper demo/trial
Damn gangbang..it seems like the days of Japanese studio releasing a proper quality NTR is gone ????
I bought the JPN version of Knights of Messiah at launch with the assumption that Kagura Games would translate it in about a year's time given their relationship with the developer. (Developer even updated a prior game that I had previously purchased with an English option.)
More than 3 years passed until we finally got the translation. Steam reviews are abysmal due to reported crashes. One person proclaimed that those were fixed using Windows 7 compatibility mode. Another mentioned renaming or deleting System/F1AltEnterF12.dll helped.
Compatibility mode didn't help with an early version. Then I tried them simultaneously with v1.0.3 (site links) and there are still plenty of crashes but significantly less. This can happen when clicking through text, trying to save, or even a click on the title screen. It's playable either way, but saving frequently - to different slots - is recommended. Though in long cut scenes there is no option with a rare crash...
Holy fuck was the 1st version buggy as hell in the very, very brief time I tried it. I wondered if Kagura butchered it but seems that the base game is the problem, which is shocking from Doujin Circle Gyu!.
As for the game otherwise:
* Large quantity of events, though obviously with a fair share of recycled art
* Plot is as expected if you've played his prior works, though with improvements
* Large map except most of the places are empty/eventless
* Battle system is decent and has clothing tear + rape depending on enemy as usual
* Standard heroine costumes as per earlier games
* Requires pressing keys to death
* Not having an option to prevent pregnancy (unless I missed one) is annoying, forces manually giving birth every time after a sex scene
* Art quality took a massive dive, visibily worse than any prior game
* Good character design even if my least favorite compared to prior games
* Filler endings but acceptable considering the game length
* Decent Tips menu item during story, but oddly missing post-epilogue (to indicate missing cut scenes)
Overall I enjoyed it despite visible flaws and do recommend it, but I am pretty disappointed with the art. It really stings compared to earlier works.
I haven't done a completeness tally but I was able to get most of the cut scenes without much problem. Same for costumes, except Alicia's heart g-string, which means I either missed a treasure box or the developer put it in a random battle drop unlike the others and I haven't encountered it yet.
If you haven't played any prior game, it involves tons of heroine prostitution and usually a semi-brainless story. I don't like whoring but the developer makes it fun anyway. I recommend playing this game first (before older works); there are cameos like Mai from Treasure Hunter Mai that won't be appreciated, but better to save the better ones for last.
More than 3 years passed until we finally got the translation. Steam reviews are abysmal due to reported crashes. One person proclaimed that those were fixed using Windows 7 compatibility mode. Another mentioned renaming or deleting System/F1AltEnterF12.dll helped.
Compatibility mode didn't help with an early version. Then I tried them simultaneously with v1.0.3 (site links) and there are still plenty of crashes but significantly less. This can happen when clicking through text, trying to save, or even a click on the title screen. It's playable either way, but saving frequently - to different slots - is recommended. Though in long cut scenes there is no option with a rare crash...
Holy fuck was the 1st version buggy as hell in the very, very brief time I tried it. I wondered if Kagura butchered it but seems that the base game is the problem, which is shocking from Doujin Circle Gyu!.
As for the game otherwise:
* Large quantity of events, though obviously with a fair share of recycled art
* Plot is as expected if you've played his prior works, though with improvements
* Large map except most of the places are empty/eventless
* Battle system is decent and has clothing tear + rape depending on enemy as usual
* Standard heroine costumes as per earlier games
* Requires pressing keys to death
* Not having an option to prevent pregnancy (unless I missed one) is annoying, forces manually giving birth every time after a sex scene
* Art quality took a massive dive, visibily worse than any prior game
* Good character design even if my least favorite compared to prior games
* Filler endings but acceptable considering the game length
* Decent Tips menu item during story, but oddly missing post-epilogue (to indicate missing cut scenes)
Overall I enjoyed it despite visible flaws and do recommend it, but I am pretty disappointed with the art. It really stings compared to earlier works.
I haven't done a completeness tally but I was able to get most of the cut scenes without much problem. Same for costumes, except Alicia's heart g-string, which means I either missed a treasure box or the developer put it in a random battle drop unlike the others and I haven't encountered it yet.
If you haven't played any prior game, it involves tons of heroine prostitution and usually a semi-brainless story. I don't like whoring but the developer makes it fun anyway. I recommend playing this game first (before older works); there are cameos like Mai from Treasure Hunter Mai that won't be appreciated, but better to save the better ones for last.
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I bought it after the second patch, because i said fuck it i have been waiting for this a lot!!, my surprise was that i didn't have that many crashes, at leats i never got some of those mentioned during the prologue, same after the third patch, then again maybe is because i am using windows 7 instead of 10?
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I just finished reading Tankoubon version of "Boku dake sex dekinai ie". LOOOL the extra chapter make the protag as an idiot. Basically he leave the house for nothing because those two girls broke off with his bros! Even worse if only he stay, the glasses girl, Asahina. Probably will accept her if he accept her past. Because he date another guy fir THAT reason.
Good BSS mang, but the extra chapters make was so funny, it was beyond my expectation.
https://www.patreon.com/posts/67678801
(Henteria CH3)
I am playing CH3 beta right now. [edit: finished it]
CH3 is much more mature, technically better. Difference between CH3 and CH2 is bigger than between CH2 and CH1.
CH3 seems to have far more depth. Dialogues, characters' building, everything is WOW!
The game MAY be boring for people w/o patience. But good NTR needs proper build-up. Do you remember Kubel's Pillory? Here intro is comparable long, but much deeper and more touching.
I just hope @N_taii won't screw sth up with cliche "bad energy causes girls' mass corruption and everyone fucks them easily".
Intro is perhaps BEST one I played ever.
N_taii is really progressing, deserving Patreon's pledges. I mean it - every work is better than earlier ones.
(I won't share this game, don't ask, since it was hand-granted to me by the author. No trust betrayal!)
(Henteria CH3)
I am playing CH3 beta right now. [edit: finished it]
CH3 is much more mature, technically better. Difference between CH3 and CH2 is bigger than between CH2 and CH1.
CH3 seems to have far more depth. Dialogues, characters' building, everything is WOW!
The game MAY be boring for people w/o patience. But good NTR needs proper build-up. Do you remember Kubel's Pillory? Here intro is comparable long, but much deeper and more touching.
I just hope @N_taii won't screw sth up with cliche "bad energy causes girls' mass corruption and everyone fucks them easily".
Intro is perhaps BEST one I played ever.
N_taii is really progressing, deserving Patreon's pledges. I mean it - every work is better than earlier ones.
(I won't share this game, don't ask, since it was hand-granted to me by the author. No trust betrayal!)
I just finished reading Tankoubon version of "Boku dake sex dekinai ie". LOOOL the extra chapter make the protag as an idiot. Basically he leave the house for nothing because those two girls broke off with his bros! Even worse if only he stay, the glasses girl, Asahina. Probably will accept her if he accept her past. Because he date another guy fir THAT reason.
Good BSS mang, but the extra chapters make was so funny, it was beyond my expectation.
Think the BSS manga woulda better if there was some relationships developed with the heroines. Seemed a bit forced imo
Is there sex scenes in the demo?