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Anime Sharing - Netorare General Discussion Thread

cleanfeel said:
I don't care about the balance of netori vs netorare/se games, so stay as they are. What matters to me the most is the quality of the woman and quality of the relationship. It's why Boku no Kanojo wa Gatenkei is such a highly rated games despite it being so old.

Same argument can be made for movies or tv shows. Weak characters usually results in a series being dropped or widely criticized. Biggest example is Game of Thrones Season 8 when quality of dialog and character interactions just disappeared and you're left with characters acting outside of their characteristics and failing to develop a sense of reality for the audience.

If you make a good game with good characters and logically characters, then it doesn't matter if it's netori or netorare I'll buy it. One example of things that turn me off greatly is dumb blackmail situations. I recently played the first Homestay game, the one with Danny that got translated into English: https://vndb.org/v20763
I played the mystery male route first, fantastic stuff. I love the explanation that he thought the woman that was sent over was spam, and Danny digitally altered the wife so she doesn't look like his wife. Totally agree that's possible and believable, unlike Rinjin's MC which had exact premise: https://vndb.org/v20484, only the MC didn't do ANYTHING about his wife getting fucked over and over again, viewed on tape. So good for Homestay here for the male side

For the female side, bonkers. The entire premise of Danny getting into the wife's pants was she wanted to stop Danny from making a move on the pre-teen (less than 10 year old) looking loli. So she's "stepping up" to jerk, suck, and fuck to "protect" her. What? If I tried to do what Danny did, I'll get kicked out of my homestay instantly. The wife will call the husband, the husband will either come home and kick my ass. Or the wife will just lock the door and call the cops when I go to school. So another example of dumb story turning me off rather than POV.

Another is the art being unrealistically ugly: In QOS ♠ Wife [RJ358957] that was just shared above has the woman with the ugliest pair of tits I've seen. They look like the fat whale at Walmart that you find here in America that can't get off their scooter. It's like: Do these artists not know what beautiful breasts look like? I watch Japanese porn so I know their pornstars have nice breasts. Globally every plastic surgeon that does breast implants have a universal sense of perfect breast. There's a very mathematically sound shape with nipples point slightly upwards and them being symmetrical and round. A simple google of "breast female breasts" do NOT have fat cow tits. So why do devs do this? I can't help but think that they're incapable and incompetent and hence I don't even want to know about their writing if they don't have basic symmetry in their head. So, why would I care if that QOS game is netori or netorare, it's not good either way.
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I agree with most of what you said, although sometimes i have to turn my head off to enjoy a game (Homestay is a good example because of exactly what you said, i mean like hello FBI-chan here xD?), on the other hand blackmail is used a lot because sadly it works in RL, personally i like drugs, blackmail, mind control, etc if used well, blackmail is the best example i can give, as in a bad example of blackmail is "i have this photo of you fucking/sucking or OMG is this KISSING your completely legal* boyfriend ?!" *i add legal because if it was something like a teacher x student then there is room for blackmail*, but a good one would be evidence of a crime wether real or fabricated (false charges can be just as damaging).

Art is ironically more important as a turn off for me too, i have played and enjoyed games (or managas) with bad art but that it isn't eye cancer inducing xD, but some games with "good" art turn me off when the proportions are just ridiculous for the theme or setting.
 
I always read NTR works as third-party viewer. Rarely doing self-insert. Maybe because most NTR i enjoy focused on corruption of heroine. That's why Sanbun, Sanagi, and Takeda works is my favorite.
 
Alright, from what I gathered, it seems that the general consensus is, regardless of the type of NTR, people will enjoy the content from a 3rd party view as long as the "corruption" is done well. Tbh, this still doesn't exactly answer why Netorare is more popular but I think I get the glimpse of it now. Kinda wished there were more replies but I can make do with these

cleanfeel said:
Another is the art being unrealistically ugly: In QOS ♠ Wife [RJ358957] that was just shared above has the woman with the ugliest pair of tits I've seen. They look like the fat whale at Walmart that you find here in America that can't get off their scooter. It's like: Do these artists not know what beautiful breasts look like? I watch Japanese porn so I know their pornstars have nice breasts. Globally every plastic surgeon that does breast implants have a universal sense of perfect breast. There's a very mathematically sound shape with nipples point slightly upwards and them being symmetrical and round. A simple google of "breast female breasts" do NOT have fat cow tits. So why do devs do this? I can't help but think that they're incapable and incompetent and hence I don't even want to know about their writing if they don't have basic symmetry in their head. So, why would I care if that QOS game is netori or netorare, it's not good either way.
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I think this has more to do with "Artist's preference" rather than incompetency. I can assure you that most of those artists are very capable of creating something that meets your preference, but the reason why they don't is because they're not interested in doing it in the first place, regardless of how much money it will make them. Artists in particular create their art out of passion, each will adhere to a style that is conform to their interest first before taking into account the public's opinion. Said passion can often be exaggerated, however that exaggeration is exactly why I find it interesting since it opens up myrriad of varieties for various type of people to enjoy, even more so for an all-rounder like me. Artists will deprive themselves of their individuality and then get alienated if they always go according to what others say. You can see how Takeda Hiromitsu got fed up with keeping on creating Vanilla works, not because these didn't make him enough money (on the contrary, it should), but because he just wasn't interested. Same thing with Mogudan who used to draw slim girl, but converted to far thiccer proportion. It's all about personal taste in the end
 
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Btw, here's a NTR recommandation, "The Senior Class" or "Joleobban" in korean, an hour and half long adult korean-made movie with a semi-3D animation. I didn't watch it in full yet but I can tell after a quick look that it will catch your interest as it did mine.

Quoted synopsis: "Joo-hee, a perfect student and the hottest girl in school, is majoring in pure arts and dreams of going to France. She's a role model for everyone as she is beautiful and talented. Jeong-woo, her fellow schoolmate and a web-toon writer wannabe, and has a crush on Joo-hee but he doesn't dare approach her. One day, Jeong-woo finds out that Joo-hee is a student by day, but a "ten-pro" call girl at night. They become close now that they share a secret. Materially and emotionally, Jeong-woo helps Joo-hee as she wants to graduate with lots of money and with high grades. However, Jeong-woo's first girlfriend, Dong-hwa, also finds out about Joo-hee's secret, leading to all sorts of rumors and X-files about Joo-hee spreading."
 
ThirdWheel0 said:
Alright, from what I gathered, it seems that the general consensus is, regardless of the type of NTR, people will enjoy the content from a 3rd party view as long as the "corruption" is done well. Tbh, this still doesn't exactly answer why Netorare is more popular but I think I get the glimpse of it now. Kinda wished there were more replies but I can make do with these
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I can share a little what i like about "Netorare". First, with some exceptions, i do not enjoy Netori. It has to be Netorare. I think the reason is that Netori is more of a self insert story into the stealer. It feels very narrow in its perspective. A good Netorare for me gives insight to all parties. I enjoy a good ntr mystery story told throw the eyes of the one who gets cheated on. Then when i later can see the whole story, there i mostly get a good mix between the stolen subject and the stealer. Thats at least is my ideal fantasy. So yeah, i am a 3rd party viewer as well.

But maybe it is also a little a masocitic fantasy. Because i like it when the stealer is better at sex. When the girlfriend/wife enjoys it more then with the mc. When he has the bigger dick (even if it doesnt make any sense). And mostly, the fact that he achieves his goals despite the fact that he only has bad ulterior motives. One of my most enjoyable "stealer" is the one who plays the nice guy and manipulating the relationship between mc and his girl/wife. He does not need rape or blackmailing. Just lying and let the mc look bad while he plays the knight in shining armor. Sadly, most ntr stories chose the easy way with rape and bm. I do not enjoy either of it. Especially rape is just plain bad. But seeing the relationship going down, the girl transforming into a sex addicted nympho and the stealer grinning because he has achieved full victory, while the mc is depressed af.... that hurts alot. But damn does this pain turning me on. So thats the reason why i think it is a masochistic fantasy. Maybe for some it is actually the opposite and it is even a sadistic one. But i personally feeling some emotional pain. Or atleast i did at some point. I consumed to much of this stuff. It mostly dulled my senses for it.

I also enjoy the corruption part. I generally enjoy some corruption, even without any ntr elements. But that is solely defined by the quality of it. But i think you have to in order to enjoy ntr. Its a major part of it.

Hopefully that gave you another helpfull insight.
 
The next Heiantei work is gonna be a mother-son incest, but is a CG Manga...

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ThirdWheel0 said:
Alright, from what I gathered, it seems that the general consensus is, regardless of the type of NTR, people will enjoy the content from a 3rd party view as long as the "corruption" is done well.
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Pretty much this. I love Type-A NTR because usually it ends with the protagonist losing out against someone who's better in some way. If the protagonist decides to better himself without the FMC or decides to conduct some revenge then it makes the story all the more better.

I've read and seen so many NTR games/writing that I'm dulled to the betrayal/sex scene but the story itself is still what keeps me reading- especially if the story continues after the MC finds out about the cheating (not netorase). That's what I love about the genre. There's not a lot of stories out there that have that sort of betrayal. You get all these vanilla porn games and VNs where all the FMCs are instantly lusting after the protagonist and love him but you rarely read a story where the FMC has her own preferences. Wouldn't that be nice? However, that sort of game wouldn't sell or be received very well since people play adult games to feel good about the MC creating a harem.
 
Yadoumi said:
The next Heiantei work is gonna be a mother-son incest, but is a CG Manga...

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Well it will takes some time until the next game. Btw I have finished the new Heiantai game. As expected, the game is hot as hell. The kissing scene never fail to amuse me. Maybe the nitpick the I found in the game is the lack hidden sex compared to Aniyome Kyouka-san to Sono Haha Chikako-san or Kanojo no Okaa-san wa Suki Desu ka? .

It's been like this since this game ( which is by far the weakest newest title they make) .
 
Yeah, I think most NTR fans start out w/ a general moral degradation / corruption fetish but it's just hard to see it pulled off well outside of NTR stories. For me the feeling of the heroine being stolen is the a great extra spice when pulled off well (Gaten-kei was amazing when I first played it) but unfortunately most games don't have the patience to do a proper buildup top actually earn it.
 
woomba said:
Yeah, I think most NTR fans start out w/ a general moral degradation / corruption fetish but it's just hard to see it pulled off well outside of NTR stories. For me the feeling of the heroine being stolen is the a great extra spice when pulled off well (Gaten-kei was amazing when I first played it) but unfortunately most games don't have the patience to do a proper buildup top actually earn it.
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Off-topic but I wish Gaten-kei was not such a pain in the ass to replay specific routes. Having 3-4 "routes" separated by a main menu button and also having the game autosave your choices in previous chapters, made me give up on the game after finishing it once.
 
 
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kapyme said:
The next chapter of Netorase Sword Princess~ has been updated. The first night of lewd is complete. As for whether it will stay vanilla netorase or netorare, not knowing is part of the fun.
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When can we expect a new ch? What you have so far is amazing.
 
Does anyone have played the new version of A Promise Best Left Unkept by Hangover Cat? how is the story so far?
 
VermillioNN said:
Does anyone have played the new version of A Promise Best Left Unkept by Hangover Cat? how is the story so far?
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The newest one not, and fuck it i won't beg there but i can beg HERE!! anyone has ver 0.2.5? Is been a few days i can't wait until next month xD
 
His games are always added to f95zone once the $5 tier gets it(which is always a week after the $10 tier)
 
Bigboat said:
His games are always added to f95zone once the $5 tier gets it(which is always a week after the $10 tier)
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I am not sure its ALWAYS, and that is why i mentioned end of the month, i don't wanna wait that long lol (yes i am whinning i know xD)
 
Thank you all guys for all the replies. It's nice seeing other people's opinion regarding a very controversial fetish. Usually it's hard to discuss this kind of topic in a civilized way without getting called out in all sorts of names. Good to see this thread got a lot of respectful people


Other than that, I came across something very very interesting while I was playing a non-H 3DS game named "Persona Q". There's that event called "Group Date Cafe" in which you pair one character with the MC, who then will go through a fake marriage trial as a couple. Y'know, for the longest time, I was wondering how it would feel like to watch/play a crossover title that combines two harem series, and Persona Q just gave me the perfect answer to that, as that game combines two widely popular titles named "Persona 3" and "Persona 4". If you're a turn-based JRPG gamers, there's high chance you know about them. Before you can begin playing the game, you need to choose which MC you'd like to control, whether the one from P3 or the one from P4. Now you can guess how it flared up my interest, since the event basically gave me the chance to see how the female cast of one harem series would react to the advance of a MC of another harem series. What I basically did was have the MC of P3 pair with the female cast of P4 and vice versa. And dang, was it a hilarious and refreshing experience. It's not NTR technically, though the feel was still there, a positive kind of feel, especially with the two female characters, Yukari from P3 and Rise from P4, who are canonically in love with the MCs of their respective games. Besides, I got to see another side of them, especially Rise whose dialogue with Minato (the MC of P3) actually had more personality compared to her usual fangirlism over Yu (the MC of P4, who she was originally meant to be with). Here's a full vid of the event involving the two girls I'm talking about:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KF0P5I2Jns&t=627s&ab_channel=justonegamr
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtJPXl-NEZ0&ab_channel=justonegamr
(Really like those YT comments haha. The persona series is one of the very few japanese games where I prefer the EN dub over the JP dub. The EN dub is just that good)


I seriously love it when I find those tidbits of NTR moments in a title that is meant to be full Vanilla. Hopefully I can find more like this. There's Fire Emblem Fate too with its romantic pairing system, but it's not as explicit
 
[Darabuchidou (Darabuchi)] Tsumareta Ikoku no Hana IV | Plucked Foreign Flower IV [English] [biribiri] [Digital]

https://exhentai.org/g/2122735/236351733c/

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Thank you so much Darabuchi sensei, i love this series so much. Glad he planned to make it for five volume. Darabuchi, Takeda , and Sanbun is great for heroine corruption in NTR.
 
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