Anime Sharing - Netorare General Discussion Thread

So... I finally cleared Kabe no Mukou no Tsuma no Koe 1, thanks to you mrecchiman.

And... Well, wow. It's an heart-breaking game. I played Kabe no Mukou no Tsuma no Koe 2 before the first, so I had no idea that the first would be darker than the second. But, well, as always, Anim Team.MM did an excellent job. I love Kabetuma 2 (and Chinatsu, indeed, his main Marina-like heroine), but actually, even if the sprites aren't animated, if think that I prefer the first one.

In conclusion, after playing and reading the story of Hiroto and Nodoka in this game, I'm really wondering how the Japanese mens and womens could be this dumb. Maybe that's their social model, but in fact, more than 50% of married couples in Japan have no more sexual relationships after one child or more than 2-3 years of life together. Being sexless that quickly, that easily when married... I just don't understand.

Well... At least, Hiroto deserved to be NTRed and cuckolded by Nodoka and Masataka.

Is that a fact? the 50% one i mean, because if so then shit, i will probably go to japan one day for vacation and play the "sexy latino foreigner" role to get laid xD, on the other hand that also explain the amount of prostitution there is, xD the men must be frustrated too lol
 
Yep, it's a fact.

The fact is, also, that around 30% (well, I think it's around. I'm sure for the fact that more than 40% are on celibat) of Japanese citizens are virgins between 30-40 years old and the number tends to grow. That's around 10 millions of Japanese. That's just ridiculous and we could think that's a paradox with the amount of sexual industries around here like prostitution or pornography, but, actually not.

Socially, the Japanese society is totally fucked up. So, yes, this fucked up family model added to the insane consumer society in Japan explain the intense prostitution. Yet, I don't understand why a lot of Japanese husbands and wives can't see each other as man and woman anymore after a certain point. Perhaps it's because I'm French, so an occidental people, but it's a mystery for me...

Maybe this is also the reason of the popularity of Netorare between all pornographic genres ?
 
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So... I finally cleared Kabe no Mukou no Tsuma no Koe 1, thanks to you mrecchiman.

And... Well, wow. It's an heart-breaking game. I played Kabe no Mukou no Tsuma no Koe 2 before the first, so I had no idea that the first would be darker than the second. But, well, as always, Anim Team.MM did an excellent job. I love Kabetuma 2 (and Chinatsu, indeed, his main Marina-like heroine), but actually, even if the sprites aren't animated, if think that I prefer the first one.

In conclusion, after playing and reading the story of Hiroto and Nodoka in this game, I'm really wondering how the Japanese mens and womens could be this dumb. Maybe that's their social model, but in fact, more than 50% of married couples in Japan have no more sexual relationships after one child or more than 2-3 years of life together. Being sexless that quickly, that easily when married... I just don't understand.

Well... At least, Hiroto deserved to be NTRed and cuckolded by Nodoka and Masataka.

For those that played Kabetuma 1, what do you think about it ? Did you like it ? ^_^

Glad to have helped. It's probably my favorite NTR game. Anim Team.MM usually makes quality stuff but there's usually something like an out of place lolicon sex scene in some of their other games that I'm not a fan of so I deduct a point from their score... while Kabe 1 doesn't bother me in any way and is basically perfect IMO.

Earlier this year there was a user I think his name was Cerberus Eros who had an fc2 video channel and blog. What he did was basically upload A LOT of eroge games including Kabe 1 but there were English translations included!

Not 100% sure but it could've just been Visual Novel Reader stacked on top (I personally never bothered trying to use it); however the male characters had voice acting (still Japanese I think) even though the original games didn't. The male voices sounded a bit stiff and robotic so either it was some program with auto speech, a fan-dub or maybe some kind of bootleg (voices of the women were untouched though; exact same as the original)

Either way I was actually able to understand mostly what was happening for part of the story until the channel got shut down; I guess it caught the attention of companies plus it was kind of shady; the guy had a Pay Pal option and some videos were restricted to paying fc2 accounts only.

I care more about visuals than actually reading if there's no proper English translation so it was somewhat useful for the short time it was available.

I usually don't bother hooking text with ITH and using google translation unless it's a game I really like but since I liked Kabe 1 and I only got to understand about 1/3 of the game before Cerberus Eros shut down I actually spent some time trying to understand the rest of the game. I'm sure I missed some stuff but I picked up some details I didn't originally notice before.

Doubt there will be a fan translation since it's a long game but hopefully a company like Manga Gamer can pick it up and dedicate a lot of resources and staff on it. I have emailed them about it in the past so never say never; I suggested Marina and that got picked up!

TL;DR Kabe 1 is awesome, not easy trying to find other games on the same level that I haven't already played. Even if an NTR game has above average writing and good voice actresses I find it somewhat difficult to be interested if the character designs do nothing for me. I guess one of the reasons I prefer NTR games is more often than not the wife or heroine is usually extremely attractive.
 
Yep, it's a fact.

The fact is, also, that around 30% (well, I think it's around. I'm sure for the fact that more than 40% are on celibat) of Japanese citizens are virgins between 30-40 years old and the number tends to grow. That's around 10 millions of Japanese. That's just ridiculous and we could think that's a paradox with the amount of sexual industries around here like prostitution or pornography, but, actually not.

Socially, the Japanese society is totally fucked up. So, yes, this fucked up family model added to the insane consumer society in Japan explain the intense prostitution. Yet, I don't understand why a lot of Japanese husbands and wives can't see each other as man and woman anymore after a certain point. Perhaps it's because I'm French, so an occidental people, but it's a mystery for me...

Maybe this is also the reason of the popularity of Netorare between all pornographic genres ?

Yeah i know what you mean, where i live people are fucking sinc earound fucking 12! And i am not talking about the obvious abuse cases, ther eis plenty of 13, 14 or 15 YO couples around, of course that is also bad, the amount of street children prove sit.

Anyway back on topic i can see why ther eis so much porn and fetishes, that frustration needs to be expresse somehow, or "liberated", i also think it has something to do with how men see their wives there, they see them as an item, almost a glorified caretaker, just there to cook, clean and watch the kids.
 
mrecchiman > In my case, I used the Visual Novel Reader while playing Kabetuma 1. The fact is, as French speaker, English isn't my first langage so it's not a problem for me to read an English translation of the Japanese langage from the VNR dictionnary, so I can appreciate all the text and the ambiance without bothering about the syntaxe as much as an English speaker would do.

So I appreciated all the story in detail. Actually, I wouldn't have played this game if I couldn't understand in detail what the story was and put a sense to these amazing and hot as fuck animated CGs.

Animefan_09 > Haha, maybe Netorare appeared because of some poor guys that were frustrated and cuckolded... Some weird and dark justice are operating here ^_^
 
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So... I finally cleared Kabe no Mukou no Tsuma no Koe 1, thanks to you mrecchiman.

And... Well, wow. It's an heart-breaking game. I played Kabe no Mukou no Tsuma no Koe 2 before the first, so I had no idea that the first would be darker than the second. But, well, as always, Anim Team.MM did an excellent job. I love Kabetuma 2 (and Chinatsu, indeed, his main Marina-like heroine), but actually, even if the sprites aren't animated, if think that I prefer the first one.

In conclusion, after playing and reading the story of Hiroto and Nodoka in this game, I'm really wondering how the Japanese mens and womens could be this dumb. Maybe that's their social model, but in fact, more than 50% of married couples in Japan have no more sexual relationships after one child or more than 2-3 years of life together. Being sexless that quickly, that easily when married... I just don't understand.

Well... At least, Hiroto deserved to be NTRed and cuckolded by Nodoka and Masataka.

For those that played Kabetuma 1, what do you think about it ? Did you like it ? ^_^

I want to play it, hopefully mangagamers pick it up. I emailed them and they are looking in to it, so hopefully it happens.
 
Yep, it's a fact.

The fact is, also, that around 30% (well, I think it's around. I'm sure for the fact that more than 40% are on celibat) of Japanese citizens are virgins between 30-40 years old and the number tends to grow. That's around 10 millions of Japanese. That's just ridiculous and we could think that's a paradox with the amount of sexual industries around here like prostitution or pornography, but, actually not.

Socially, the Japanese society is totally fucked up. So, yes, this fucked up family model added to the insane consumer society in Japan explain the intense prostitution. Yet, I don't understand why a lot of Japanese husbands and wives can't see each other as man and woman anymore after a certain point. Perhaps it's because I'm French, so an occidental people, but it's a mystery for me...

Maybe this is also the reason of the popularity of Netorare between all pornographic genres ?

How there can be so many virgins if there are a lot of prostitutes? I'm sure what your statistics is wrong.

If talking about "can't see themself as man and woman after a certain point" this right for most of long term couples everywhere. I can't imagine how you can fuck one and only woman for 10+ years and don't be bored with that. In fact most guys get tired from sex with their GF in 2-3 years at most. We humans by out nature serial monogamous - it means to be fully satisfied we NEED to change sex partners after each cycle of reproduction. The only way around is to become much better than you was before a start of the cycle so what brain of your partner took you as if you are someone new and start the cycle again with you.
 
How there can be so many virgins if there are a lot of prostitutes? I'm sure what your statistics is wrong.

If talking about "can't see themself as man and woman after a certain point" this right for most of long term couples everywhere. I can't imagine how you can fuck one and only woman for 10+ years and don't be bored with that. In fact most guys get tired from sex with their GF in 2-3 years at most. We humans by out nature serial monogamous - it means to be fully satisfied we NEED to change sex partners after each cycle of reproduction. The only way around is to become much better than you was before a start of the cycle so what brain of your partner took you as if you are someone new and start the cycle again with you.

i like ur think but it will make alot trouble relationship between people
 
How there can be so many virgins if there are a lot of prostitutes? I'm sure what your statistics is wrong.

If talking about "can't see themself as man and woman after a certain point" this right for most of long term couples everywhere. I can't imagine how you can fuck one and only woman for 10+ years and don't be bored with that. In fact most guys get tired from sex with their GF in 2-3 years at most. We humans by out nature serial monogamous - it means to be fully satisfied we NEED to change sex partners after each cycle of reproduction. The only way around is to become much better than you was before a start of the cycle so what brain of your partner took you as if you are someone new and start the cycle again with you.

How there can be so many virgins with so much prostitution ? You know, it's true that there is a lot of them and that's ridiculous. I didn't believe it when I consulted poll stats and studies. But actually Japanese are 130 millions. If around 20-30% of the active population is litterally sexless, that's just it. The rest are not, and as there is so many virgins that viscerally don't want any sexual activities, there is also those that are absolutely not reluctant to do it, and on the exact contrary, those are crazy sex consumers.

For what I know about Japan : This country isn't as liberal as our countries (France, England, USA, etc.) in termes of customs and way of life. Japanese people have an extremely conservative social model, which is basically the fact of finding a spouse, finding a socially integrated work and making a child quickly to reproduct the "perfect" social model which is not really perfect if it's not the life that you really want.

On this old social model has been added the consumer society, which litteraly broke down Japanese customs by... Liberalizing and individualizing them when they were absolutely not liberal to begin. And Japanese among all people are crazy consumers, so they embraced our system without doubt. But actually, that created an insane amount of problems like Ikkikomori, suicids, prostitutions, maybe even these sexless marriages... For the mains reasons that Japanese are educated to follow a collective movements. They are like kids, when people start to do several and varied movements, they don't know how and what to do. So our cultural liberalism comes to confront their culture.

And about that strange sexless marriage, I'm not sure about your biological explication of human life and human sex cycle though. This seems highly speculative for me. I agree that the sexual atraction isn't always eternal between a man and a woman. But in Japan, this phenomenon tends to be systematic really really quickly, so there is undoubtly a problem here... ^_^

That's also why I really like NTR Games like Kabetuma 1... Theses games casually show all of these social contradictions with a funny side at it.
 
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I don't know if you noticed but a lot of new images are visible for それでも妻を愛してる2 !!
And the voice for the main heroine is out and I love it !

I have the impression that Team Bitters has a lot of CG for this one. :D

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No sex in this CG but I like the feeling of this scene. And for me, I think that the chairman Saburo will be a great character ^^
 

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Lookin forward to that game like crazy, but the wait is just soo long. I'm trying to not even think about it till it's close to coming out
Also looking foward to this, but lune team bitters often disappoint, so i am a little concerned. On the plus side, the art from Gentle Sasaki is great and the heroine looks really beautiful (especially with open hairs). So lets hope for the best.

I am acutally more hyped for http://www.getchu.com/soft.phtml?id=967834.
 
Glad to see at least two decent lengthened high quality NTR games coming in the future. Too many cheap RPGs coming out lately and with Sukebei down it takes longer to get the few high quality games even then.
 
Also looking foward to this, but lune team bitters often disappoint, so i am a little concerned. On the plus side, the art from Gentle Sasaki is great and the heroine looks really beautiful (especially with open hairs). So lets hope for the best.

I am acutally more hyped for http://www.getchu.com/soft.phtml?id=967834.

I was disappointed by the last Team Bitters 俺の彼女が就職した会社は、ブラック企業だった…。 but I keep a good memory of the first opus of this franchise and マリッジブルー so I'm pretty confident. (Like you, I hope for the best ^^)

Yep, 夫の居ぬ間に… ~わたし脅されて、あなたに言えないコトしました~ will certainly be very good too! These two NTR games will hopefully be successful but for now, patience, patience... :whistle:
 
Do you guys know if Marina is selling well on MangaGamer ?

Just to know if there is any possibility that they translate the second game.
 
Marina is love :)

That's bad that Atelier Sakura Team.NTR didn't reproduct that performance since.
 
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Still no updated translation for Arakure's Tsuma to Charao ga Kieta NTR Bedroom :(
 
wow that heiantei is not running well for me at all. Text is gibberish and very slow. Tried using NTLEA, but that only improved the text and the game still runs very slow.

edit: God it working by installing windows language pack.
 
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