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Anime Sharing - Netorare General Discussion Thread

Redorc said:
Lol everything you hated is pretty much what I love in ntr.
Oblivious mc (even extremely oblivious) + mystery ntr + corruption of the girl.
The downsides being the netorase (not into that at all) and the heroine being retarded (I prefer strong willed/clever to negative IQ).
Thanks for the review!
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I am more or less the same, on the other hand the MC obliviouness is partly self forced due to his own guilt, he was the one that asked for and allowed the netorase and the girl just went with it because of him, well i haven't played the full POV but is obvious the girl was afraid and that without that reason (his fetish) she wouldn't have jumped into the other guy's dick xD

Not sure if i should wait until there is 1 or 2 more upates (the content ones) before playing full POV, but i loved it, this is the kind of netorase i like, the gone horribly right muahahahahaha
 
PotatoGod said:
Finally managed to play https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ01066599.html. The dev rolled out v1.02 which fixed my problem. Apparently it was a bug specific to Window 7 users. Now for my opinion on the game:

The game is honestly a mixed bag, especially so for those on the thread who hate cheating or NTR in their netorase games. If you want any happy ending, this game is definitely not the game for you and the same goes for any of this dev's previous games. The trademark of this dev's games are mystery NTR coupled with heroine corruption and an oblivious MC with a tiny dick. Even though this game is netorase and has netorase in its name, all of the dev's trademark tropes are in this game. It starts off very wholesome but once the netorase starts you pretty much realized the MC is fucked. All of the netorase in this game is outside of the MC's eyes and he occasionally gets pictures and NTR reports but he believes the pictures are faked by his gf to make the netorase sexier and the heroine straight up lies in every NTR report. Her lies start off with good intentions since she doesn't want to hurt the MC's feelings however after a while she's lying mostly because the other guy told her to. Its pretty debatable as to whether or not she even cares for the MC by the end. After a while, the netorase devolves into pure cheating. The netorase is officially finished but she's still seeing the other dude. By the end of the game she convinces the MC to restart the netorase however he's none the wiser that she's just using it as an excuse to fuck the other guy.
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I mean, what else did you expect if you played the other games from the developer? That they wouldn't do more of the same but with a different premise? From the description, it seems to be one of the hottest netorase turned netorare games out there, though I prefer it when the MC still realizes that he's cucked in the end and has no choice but to accept his fate (like in this succubuss ntr game from BBQ daisuki).
 
greenlittleman said:
I mean, what else did you expect if you played the other games from the developer? That they wouldn't do more of the same but with a different premise? From the description, it seems to be one of the hottest netorase turned netorare games out there, though I prefer it when the MC still realizes that he's cucked in the end and has no choice but to accept his fate (like in this succubuss ntr game from BBQ daisuki).
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I kinda knew what to expect, I was just hoping he'd be a bit more suspicious given that its netorase and he never once wondered who his gf was fucking for several months straight. Its a bit absurd but it just felt like this game skirted the edge of stupidity a bit more than the dev's usual games. With the other games, the MC straight up doesn't know the heroines are fucking around meanwhile in this game he does. I was hoping he'd be a bit more interested in what the herione was doing and at least take more interest in the netorase since it was his fetish and all but early on, the game kinda shifts focus and instead is more about the heroine's pleasure instead. The MC's just left lounging about for most of the mid game while the heroine is off elsewhere. I knew the NTR was inevitable but 4 netorase sessions in and the game felt like it already shifted to full on netorare. The mid game was still hot and the NTR videos easily made up for it but I was hoping for a bit more on the netorase side, or at least for the MC to find out that the situation may be out of his control. I guess another reason I'm probably a bit less forgiving on this MC is that he's not as common as in typical NTR games. NTR is no stranger to having some of the dumbest MCs in order to drive the plot and this dev's MCs doesn't really stand out that much in comparison. Netorase on the other hand does have a dumb MC every now and then but its a bit more toned down since the MC's already in the know. Most of the time netorase goes wrong isn't because the MC was oblivious (though it does happen), but more so because they fell too far into the fetish and either didn't notice the heroine falling for the other dude or even better, they loved it and encouraged it because their brain is too dominated by their NTR fetish. In the mid to end game, I would frequently forget this game was even netorase. Besides the early scenes and scenes where the heroine finally falls, my favorite scene was the last one where the heroine left the MC behind on summer vacation and went to the beach with her fuckbuddy. She actually calls the MC and tells him that she's in the middle of netorase play. Now we, the audience, already know that she's just likely calling the MC purely for her own pleasure and not because she cares about the netorase, but from the MC's perspective it feels like he finally cares about the netorase again. He manages to get a glimpse of the heroine fucking another dude and he's aroused as hell. He loves what he sees but he's also wondering if the netorase is going a bit too far. At this point I was like 'o shit, I'm playing a netorase game' and I was really invested again. Then the game ended (though it'll likely be continued in a later update).
Overall, the game was hot as hell and easily one of my favorite NTR games this year. As a netorase game though, its pretty lacking. It did do some pretty good stuff that while not new, was pretty enjoyable. I like that the MC has to pay for the love hotel fees whenever the heroine did netorase. Honestly made it feel even better when he paid for the fees but we as the play knows that she isn't even going to the love hotel most of the times. The free creampie shirt that the heroine wore during the break up video woke something up inside me. I also liked that the heroine had a picture commemorating the day she got into a relationship with the MC but by the end of the game she threw out the picture and replaced it with stuff related to netorase.
At the end of the day, he game just didn't really cater to the parts of netorase I enjoy the most and that's fine since the game was still a pretty good NTR game.
TLDR: I expected a stupid MC but the MC in this game was way dumber than I thought he would be.
 
Two netori guys...meh, I've already lost interest...
I guess they'll never make another Tsuma Biniku again...
 
PotatoGod said:
Overall, the game was hot as hell and easily one of my favorite NTR games this year. As a netorase game though, its pretty lacking. It did do some pretty good stuff that while not new, was pretty enjoyable. I like that the MC has to pay for the love hotel fees whenever the heroine did netorase. Honestly made it feel even better when he paid for the fees but we as the play knows that she isn't even going to the love hotel most of the times. The free creampie shirt that the heroine wore during the break up video woke something up inside me. I also liked that the heroine had a picture commemorating the day she got into a relationship with the MC but by the end of the game she threw out the picture and replaced it with stuff related to netorase.
At the end of the day, the game just didn't really cater to the parts of netorase I enjoy the most and that's fine since the game was still a pretty good NTR game.
TLDR: I expected a stupid MC but the MC in this game was way dumber than I thought he would be.
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I see, thanks for the detailed answer. Btw, does this game have some actual romance / backstory like the previous game of the developer? And does the MC actually gets some scenes in between ntr? What I kind of disliked in the previous games is how lacking were the scenes with the protagonist, though that was still better than some games that lack any whatsoever or just one at the end of a "true end", lol.
 
greenlittleman said:
I see, thanks for the detailed answer. Btw, does this game have some actual romance / backstory like the previous game of the developer? And does the MC actually gets some scenes in between ntr? What I kind of disliked in the previous games is how lacking were the scenes with the protagonist, though that was still better than some games that lack any whatsoever or just one at the end of a "true end", lol.
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Never played the dev's second game and while I played their first game, my memory on it is a bit foggy so I can't really compare it to the previous games that much. There is an attempt to flesh out their relationship though. The game starts off spending a decent amount of time fleshing out their relationship though the more the game progresses, the less they actually interact. There's also small moments every once in a while that helps in this regard but most of their development is pretty frontloaded. The game does have a couple of flashback scenes where the MC remembers how he met the heroine and got together with her and they're used somewhat decently. When it comes to scenes between the ntr, there is initially some of that and the heroine occasionally teased the MC with a report or foreplay but that gets shut down early on and the MC for the most part is sexless and rarely gets any update on the netorase, which I didn't really like. I didn't mind that the heroine stopped having sex with the MC but the excuse behind it and the execution wasn't that great. She tells the MC that she's going to forgo sex with him and do some teasing play with him instead but she never really follows up on it. She just goes off to do the netorase and there's no real follow up. That's why I liked the last scene (for now) of the game because that's literally the first NTR report the MC's gotten since near the beginning of the game. Outside of that the heroine does have a diary you can peek on to get her thoughts at the moment but it doesn't really impact the game since even though the MC can take a peek, its never really mentioned in story.
 
PotatoGod said:
Never played the dev's second game and while I played their first game, my memory on it is a bit foggy so I can't really compare it to the previous games that much. There is an attempt to flesh out their relationship though. The game starts off spending a decent amount of time fleshing out their relationship though the more the game progresses, the less they actually interact. There's also small moments every once in a while that helps in this regard but most of their development is pretty frontloaded. The game does have a couple of flashback scenes where the MC remembers how he met the heroine and got together with her and they're used somewhat decently. When it comes to scenes between the ntr, there is initially some of that and the heroine occasionally teased the MC with a report or foreplay but that gets shut down early on and the MC for the most part is sexless and rarely gets any update on the netorase, which I didn't really like. I didn't mind that the heroine stopped having sex with the MC but the excuse behind it and the execution wasn't that great. She tells the MC that she's going to forgo sex with him and do some teasing play with him instead but she never really follows up on it. She just goes off to do the netorase and there's no real follow up. That's why I liked the last scene (for now) of the game because that's literally the first NTR report the MC's gotten since near the beginning of the game. Outside of that the heroine does have a diary you can peek on to get her thoughts at the moment but it doesn't really impact the game since even though the MC can take a peek, its never really mentioned in story.
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I see, that's too bad then. The thing I didn't like about Smoldering, another netorase (kind of) / netorare game is that the middle of the game is just about the heroine fucking the ntr dudes and the MC is pretty much forgotten until the last phase of the game when she has completely fallen. But Smoldering did it even worse - after the first few netorase teasing scenes the girl just says that she stops the ntr play (because MC wasn't into it and she felt guilty for overdoing it), and from then on she just cheats in secret. The problem with that is that it goes against the entire premise and becomes just a typical netorare game, except you just skip days and watch her scenes without any actual interactions between the protagonist and the girl. And only after she completely falls does things return to how they should've been with ntr reports and such, but only for the last few scenes.
 
greenlittleman said:
I see, that's too bad then. The thing I didn't like about Smoldering, another netorase (kind of) / netorare game is that the middle of the game is just about the heroine fucking the ntr dudes and the MC is pretty much forgotten until the last phase of the game when she has completely fallen. But Smoldering did it even worse - after the first few netorase teasing scenes the girl just says that she stops the ntr play (because MC wasn't into it and she felt guilty for overdoing it), and from then on she just cheats in secret. The problem with that is that it goes against the entire premise and becomes just a typical netorare game, except you just skip days and watch her scenes without any actual interactions between the protagonist and the girl. And only after she completely falls does things return to how they should've been with ntr reports and such, but only for the last few scenes.
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Have you found the game in english? Or does Mtool work well with it? I found the game in spanish but it says MTL, i actually feel that as an native spanish speaker i will react worse to it than to normal english MTLs lol
 
Yadoumi said:
Two netori guys...meh, I've already lost interest...
I guess they'll never make another Tsuma Biniku again...
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I hope if any of the Netori guys is actually a relative of the wife/husband. If not it will be Rintsuma all over again. There's no way Anim gonna repeat that mistake again right ??.
 
Animefan_09 said:
Well art already looks good and i am a fan of lingerie so that is another plus........now lets just hope for real ntr, and no honest sympathetic Netori guy nor bastard BF or husband xD
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You know what, this is the five in a row game where no MILF heroine include in their game. I kinda pissed off right now XDD.
 
Animefan_09 said:
Have you found the game in english? Or does Mtool work well with it? I found the game in spanish but it says MTL, i actually feel that as an native spanish speaker i will react worse to it than to normal english MTLs lol
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I use RPGMV Hook Patcher, just like for any other RPGVM game, and then read it with Translator Aggregator. I use DeepL from Textractor as an auxiliary when I'm too lazy to read in Japanese, lol.
 
Well the wait is over since I just finished and I got my thoughts together.

So, as said before, Dangerous change Kaede (https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ01047530.html) is a netorase game which is the sequel to the netorare game, https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ376918.html. After playing through the game, I don't think that playing the first game is really required to enjoy this one but it does enhance the experience, especially in the latter half of the game. In fact, the hot spring from the dev's first game makes a reappearance and it even has somewhat similar vibes. It was pretty neat.
Moving on to the actual plot synopsis of the game. The game takes place a couple of years after the first game which ended off on a pretty depressing, but hopeful note for the MC since he got fully NTR'd. Now, the MC is married to Kaede, his ex-wife's little sister who helped him to recover from his traumatic experiences. By now they've pretty much settled down into a stable life however after his first time with Kaede, it seems like its impossible for the MC to get an erection due to his divorce. Kaede doesn't mind though and their marriage (or relationship in general, never actually knew if they were married but I'll just call it marriage since I'm more sure of that) is a pretty happy one. Things change one day when the MC's neighbor reveals to him that he has a NTR fetish and wants the MC to fuck his wife, however the MC refuses as he wants to remain faithful to Kaede and his past experiences with anything cuck related has him confused as to why anyone would willingly subject themselves to such an experience. All goes back to normal until a someone visits the village. This dude is a past acquaintance of Kaede and basically loves to fuck around. Kaede can't stand his guts and he's a shameless pervert. In fact, the reason he's in the village is because he's on the run from some gangsters because he fucked the boss' woman. Long story short, The gangsters catch up to him however the MC and Kaede (mostly just Kaede) mediates between the two parties and manages to get the dude off scott free. In order to thank the MC and Kaede, he throws a BBQ beach party for the entire village, however while playing around he accidentally trips and gropes Kaede in front of the MC. The MC doesn't mind much however he realizes that his dick's reacting for the first time in a long while, much to his dismay. He consults the internet and finds out that he may have a NTR fetish just like his neighbor so he goes out in the middle of the night only to catch his neighbour watching his wife get banged by the visitor. MC consults the neighbor and comes to the conclusion that netorase play might be the way to restore his sex life with Kaede. The MC consults Kaede and though she is quite reluctant, she goes along with it, less because she cares about their sex life and more because she wants to see the MC happy. After that, they both start doing netorase with the visitor.
All of that is basically the introduction for the game and what sets things into motion. Now to actually discuss my thoughts on the game, I'm going to have to get into spoiler territory by spoiling the entire plot and I mean the ENTIRE plot so if you want to go in blind, now's the chance:

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And that's it for the entire plot now here's my thoughts on it:
First I gotta start with Kaede. She's a straight upgrade to all of the dev's previous heroines. She's strong, truly loves the MC and helps him through some of his hardest times and she doesn't immediately give in when fucked by a good cock. Ironically, its her love for the MC that gets the plot rolling in both good and bad ways and its honestly my favorite part about her, even more than her obvious strength. The MC on the other hand, I have a pretty low opinion on. Even though he's somewhat recovered from his divorce, its clear that his trauma is still there. His ED is one, but his focus on netorase is actually pretty interesting. What sets this plot apart from normal netorase plots where the MC uses the netorase to cure his erectile dysfunction is that is was never really necessary. When that trope usually plays out, its because the heroine is clearly needing more in bed and the MC knowing this, resorts to more extreme means in order to satisfy her. In this game, Kaede is already satisfied. She's legit already happy with their life and the MC could go on for the rest of his life unable to use his dick and she wouldn't care. The MC on the other hand is led by his netorase desires purely for himself and not for Kaede. Even when Kaede is having the best fucking of her life, its clear that she'd go back to their former relationship in a heartbeat if he wanted it but he didn't. Most of my gripes with the story comes from the MC's decision making which is bafflingly stupid, but actually makes sense. This is where I think that playing the first game adds to the experience. The MC is already a broken dude by the beginning of this game. The time he spent with Kaede only took his mind off of the pain but the moment he got reminded about it he relapsed hard. He's making dumb decisions not because he's dumb, but instead because he's so fucked in the head its probably the only thing that truly makes him feel alive, possibly even more than his relationship with Kaede. Kaede on the other hand makes dumb decisions as well but all of it is for the MC and she never truly loses that love. Ending spoiler:
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Only other gripes are with the visitor in the early game along with the neighbor and his wife. They both felt like they had a lot more potential. I was hoping that the visitor would at least stick around to the point where he could fuck Kaede but nope, he bails too fast. I was also hoping to see more of the neighbor's wife getting fucked since I actually liked her design. The number one scene I was hoping for was the MC and the neighbor both sitting back and watching one dude dominate them both but I guess it wasn't meant to be. My opinion of the neighbor also plummeted around the mid game and that never recovered. Legit felt betrayed by that one. That hit harder than any NTR.

Anyways, that's it. Pretty sure there's a lot I glossed over and more that I wanted to say but I'm not really sure how to integrate that into whatever monster I've just typed up. The game was pretty good for netorase but don't expect a happy ending. My favorite of this dev's games so far and I hope it gets an update since I want to see more of Kaede. Also forgive my character analysis. I might be reaching with some if not most of my statements and all the characters could just be fucking idiots but that's what I got from my time playing the game.
Lastly, I realize that I typed up a jumbled mess so if you have any questions on the game that I wasn't able to clarify, didn't make any sense or straight up missed then feel free to ask.

Edit: I was thinking about the game while making a PBJ sandwich and I got some more thoughts on the MC and his relationship with Kaede.
For a game where Kaede was the one fucking other people and the MC was reveling in his netorase fetish, it really feels like Kaede is the one that got betrayed here. The MC took her feelings for granted and used her solely for his own pleasure, kinda like NTR scenarios where the heroine is a cheating slut who only keeps her husband around because she gets off on it. It also made me reevaluate the MC's and Kaede's entire relationship. I'm starting to wonder if the MC ever even loved Kaede the same way he loved Aya from the first game. The fact that all it really took for the MC to pass the point of no return was seeing Aya's porno made me wonder if the only reason he was with Kaede was because she either resembled Aya or reminded him of a time before his life got fucked up. Him subjecting Kaede to the netorase, especially with the coach is probably just him reliving his personal nightmare of when Aya left him and he's probably just learnt to enjoy it. All of this is just me reaching obviously but man, everytime Kaede looked the MC in the eye and asked if he wanted to go back really got to me. Especially since I always thought she was long gone only to reveal she's doing it for the MC. She really didn't deserve what she got.
 
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Just finished https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/announce/=/product_id/RJ01047530.html

Around 2hrs of playtime. It's Netorase that turns sorta into netorare. It's pretty poor netorare though, Id say it's more for people who want netorase.

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Its biggest downside is the overreliance on shadows behind the curtains for every animation. Followed by not having any side content to explore around for. The second girl is only for the demo part, which is really lame. So if you didn't play and just unlocked all content, I see why you would be unhappy as the scenes aren't much. It relies heavily on the text to set the scene as a netorase. Where the protag is watching and jackin it.

If you are looking for netorare, don't bother with this. If you like netorase where the girl is given away willingly, and don't mind her leaving the protag at the end, then you will probably be fine with this. Its no masterpiece, but will kill a couple of hours if you're bored and like netorase/sharing.

I think the dev just heavily used shadow content because it was easy to animate.
 
PotatoGod said:
Well the wait is over since I just finished and I got my thoughts together.

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Edit: I was thinking about the game while making a PBJ sandwich and I got some more thoughts on the MC and his relationship with Kaede.
For a game where Kaede was the one fucking other people and the MC was reveling in his netorase fetish, it really feels like Kaede is the one that got betrayed here. The MC took her feelings for granted and used her solely for his own pleasure, kinda like NTR scenarios where the heroine is a cheating slut who only keeps her husband around because she gets off on it. It also made me reevaluate the MC's and Kaede's entire relationship. I'm starting to wonder if the MC ever even loved Kaede the same way he loved Aya from the first game. The fact that all it really took for the MC to pass the point of no return was seeing Aya's porno made me wonder if the only reason he was with Kaede was because she either resembled Aya or reminded him of a time before his life got fucked up. Him subjecting Kaede to the netorase, especially with the coach is probably just him reliving his personal nightmare of when Aya left him and he's probably just learnt to enjoy it. All of this is just me reaching obviously but man, everytime Kaede looked the MC in the eye and asked if he wanted to go back really got to me. Especially since I always thought she was long gone only to reveal she's doing it for the MC. She really didn't deserve what she got.
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I really like your review, and yeah this game turned out to be really psychological, up to players if that is bad or good, like even Kaede isn't safe since her attachment to the MC becomes clearly unhealthy, not far from someone in an abusive relationship, and the MC also fits the part of the abusive partner sinc ehe basically forces the whole thing.

Is not often when you see a game where the girl falling would be the healthier/best ending for her, like now i want/hope for an extra epilogue where Aya comes back and beats some sense into her (of course while remaining with the teacher or just turning Kaede into a slut, and yes even that would be better!) and basically call out the MC, afterwards when he realizes how much he has fucked up and that yes he has lost Kaede too he can go hang himself for all i care, dude seriously pisses me off.

Of course its equally likely that the first chara guy returns after "training" and saves the day lol
 
Dangerous change Kaede- found that once the first guy leaves and the NTR guy from the first game comes back the game kind of nose dives down in enjoyment. I like the psychological and emotional side of NTR and the game was doing ok for that till mid point, then the MC just becomes a masturbation junky and the wife characterization just stops and just dose time jumps to get to sex scenes with zero development. Should have just stuck with the first NTR guy and have things slowly Escalate from it. I just don't find it's good NTR if at the end even I think the women should dumb the main character. I feel bad for how Kaede ended up more. XD
 
Prettz said:
Dangerous change Kaede- found that once the first guy leaves and the NTR guy from the first game comes back the game kind of nose dives down in enjoyment. I like the psychological and emotional side of NTR and the game was doing ok for that till mid point, then the MC just becomes a masturbation junky and the wife characterization just stops and just dose time jumps to get to sex scenes with zero development. Should have just stuck with the first NTR guy and have things slowly Escalate from it. I just don't find it's good NTR if at the end even I think the women should dumb the main character. I feel bad for how Kaede ended up more. XD
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That's pretty understandable. The first half of the game with the visitor was my favorite part and I was hoping he'd stick around longer. I kinda thought his character was going to go somewhere since he felt like a perverted dumbass but he never had any bad intentions. That along with his history with Kaede made me want to see him break her cold exterior and show a different side of her but he bailed too quickly. When the coach came into the story I had a lot of mixed feelings. On one hand, I felt that he was going to be in the story since he played a major role in the first game. His actual scenes and character in this game are actually pretty good, especially with the call backs and parallels to the previous games. The mixed feelings mostly came from the MC's decision making and how rapidly his mental faculties dropped off of a cliff. I was pretty sympathetic towards him throughout most of the game and even after he made his stupid decision to get the coach involved I was hoping he would snap out of it. The real point where I gave up on him was the first time skip. After the hot spring inn scene where he revealed himself to Kaede I was hoping that common sense would kick in and he'd call everything off or at least make Kaede stop seeing the coach. Instead he made Kaede marry the damn dude. At that point I lost all respect for the MC and seeing Kaede suffer like this kinda killed my vibes. It didn't really even feel like netorase or even NTR, it just felt like the MC was forcing her to prostitute herself. It was still entertaining to me, but less in a hot way and more in a 'Jesus Christ this is fucked up but I want to see where this goes' kinda way. I think if the dev made a happier ending or at least one where the MC snaps back to reality and makes the coach back off then the ending we got wouldn't be that bad. I said before that with how the game ends, there's some ambiguity in that Kaede still loves the MC and its still possible for him to save the relationship so an update that takes place after that would be interesting but the MC's character's already hit rock bottom so that'll be unlikely.
 
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