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Anime Sharing - Netorare General Discussion Thread

Here are some reviews for a batch of games, most of which everyone has already played.

[Elf] Boku no Kanojo wa Gatenkei
It amazingly lived up to the hype.

The charm of an intertwined & flowing story, irreverent humor, enjoyable character quirks, a couple that you can't help but cheer for, an antoganist who doesn't quite get everything, gorgeous art, and so on... I don't know what other NTR game comes even close in terms of writing.

Only knocks are route hunting, which I bypassed with a walkthrough, and wanting minor modifications in 1 of the major endings:

The one where Misaki forces Masahi to make their sex lives work despite his shortcomings, and embracing his newfound proclivities: would have preferred it to end on a non-netorase note. There's enough netorare and netorase spread throughout that I wanted something a more vanilla touch to balance things; the farm one was a minor ending.
I can find another game where I enjoy ero elements slightly more, but that's partly due to how invested I was in the plot and it's personally unrivaled in every other category. I intentionally had this in the backlog in case it lived up to the praise and it did!
Glad you like this game. This game is surprisngly well written for NTR eroge for it's time. Every route feels different, but the bittersweet ending is the one that gave me big impact. Speaking of ending you post, is it:
-The one where Misaki and Makkun accept orgy lifestyle and doing sex with curtain sperarting bed and ended with He getting handjob from Misaki while she getting fucked behing
or
- The one where Maakun get tied and get reverse rape by Misaki , and then they accept Maakun fetish. In the end He ask Misaki to wear short skirt to greet their guest

[Orcsoft] Aisai Nikki
Replayed it as several years had passed since last completion, and it's still my favorite simulator.

If I could forget any game so I can replay it again, this is top of the list: simple simulation mechanics, short play time, gorgeous art, extremely sexy heroine, charming little snippets of conversations, and the corruption sequence is amazingly erotic.

Unlike Gatenkei it has minimal plot, but these 2 are my favorites.
Aisai nikki is simple but addicting, the game mechanic is fun, the ero scenes was hot. Also Sanae is well designes character with sexy voice. I really like her. I still play Aisai Nikki on my free time.

Looks like we sharing same taste in NTR game hahaha

[Atelier] Gyaruzuma Anri no Netorase Play
Even for Atelier, the utter lack of effort and budget spent is incredible. There is no flow, in-game art is recycled more than it usually is, and the sex scenes are incredibly boring despite the writers fulfilling the title name.

Besides the insanely S-tier cover art, I'm surprised this was positively received. Yes, the gyaru archetype wasn't used well in Gyaruzuma Sex, but I'll happy take that over this any day.
Yaah, i feel cheated by the cover. You wanna know why this game feels hal-baked? That's because they lock another scenario on their Fantia!!! And you need to pay double to play the route! (Subscription fee, and past month reward fee)
You can download the Fantia extra content in here and here

Thanks for your recommendation, i will play all Mijishi RPG and Koukan no Toriko-tachi...
 
https://workupload.com/file/WKVjYG7tMYm
A Housewifes Healing Touch -Prologue-.7z (133.43 MB)
Alicesoft's prologue of upcoming NTR/netori/pure love title. English.

Wow didn't expect a Japanese company to release an English translation. Is the prologue worth playing?

Definitely getting the NTR edition. Glad they split up the edition to save money. Woman like her is best suitable for corruption :P My only concern is will there be a good amount scenes. Since each edition is around $11-13 it could feel rushed/short. Don't know if there is some extra benefit if you buy the set edition.
 
Koukan no Toriko-tachi
Played, finished, and briefly mentioned it months ago, and I want to expand on the opportunity loss.

Netorase and swapping routes? Perfect, or meaty enough. NTR route, though, I have massive issues:

Tetsuya longing for Yukari had been strongly hinted towards, and him landing her despite his friendly relationship with Hiroki (MC) made complete sense. What bothers me is Yukari's inconsistent character.

She loves Hiroki and sex, but wants the MC to idolize her less. This is a critical plot point. She's very playful and sexually unreserved, as observed in netorase play and numerous - sometimes explicit - hints towards her past.

Yet the NTR route has her demuring many times to Tetsuya. That maiden-like personality doesn't really fit, and we only see brief hints of playfulnes like after onsen anal defloration. This is a serious issue.

Other flaws:
1. MC hinting at cheating never goes anywhere. Her casually flaunting her own affair (scent in bedroom, hickey) turns out to be unintended unless I missed something. Lack of harmony here, and in a few other places, stands out.
2. DLC with the professor was terrible. What's the point of her telling Tetsuya? It's completely unerotic; they don't have a netorase dynamic, MC makes more sense though the scenes aren't good in the 1st place. The "reveal" of where/how she became sexually practiced is very anti-climactic.
People say NTR is the "true" route, but I think either the netorase or swapping one is instead since her character makes more sense in those. Otherwise, the intended route wouldn't have what I consider writing flaws. It's a shame, because there was some amazing stuff packed in the NTR route. Waffle dropped a chance for this to be a "masterpiece" that pulls off all 3 sub-genres and not merely settle for a very good to great game.
Do myou have link for DLC 交姦の虜たち・・・特典ストーリー ? I can't find it anywhere
 
Linking to the full site for the new alicesoft game as well : https://www.alicesoft.com/okusama/?220428

Key point is that they will be releasing it as two separate games : one for the love route and the other for netorare and also...Global Worldwide release, suggesting that English and a few other languages will be available day 1.

Also, the MC will be the husband for the netorare route, so it'll be more of a proper NTR game than how it's worked for previous games.
 
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Here are some reviews for a batch of games, most of which everyone has already played.

[Elf] Boku no Kanojo wa Gatenkei
It amazingly lived up to the hype.

The charm of an intertwined & flowing story, irreverent humor, enjoyable character quirks, a couple that you can't help but cheer for, an antoganist who doesn't quite get everything, gorgeous art, and so on... I don't know what other NTR game comes even close in terms of writing.

Only knocks are route hunting, which I bypassed with a walkthrough, and wanting minor modifications in 1 of the major endings:

The one where Misaki forces Masahi to make their sex lives work despite his shortcomings, and embracing his newfound proclivities: would have preferred it to end on a non-netorase note. There's enough netorare and netorase spread throughout that I wanted something a more vanilla touch to balance things; the farm one was a minor ending.
I can find another game where I enjoy ero elements slightly more, but that's partly due to how invested I was in the plot and it's personally unrivaled in every other category. I intentionally had this in the backlog in case it lived up to the praise and it did!


[Orcsoft] Aisai Nikki
Replayed it as several years had passed since last completion, and it's still my favorite simulator.

If I could forget any game so I can replay it again, this is top of the list: simple simulation mechanics, short play time, gorgeous art, extremely sexy heroine, charming little snippets of conversations, and the corruption sequence is amazingly erotic.

Unlike Gatenkei it has minimal plot, but these 2 are my favorites.


Koukan no Toriko-tachi
Played, finished, and briefly mentioned it months ago, and I want to expand on the opportunity loss.

Netorase and swapping routes? Perfect, or meaty enough. NTR route, though, I have massive issues:

Tetsuya longing for Yukari had been strongly hinted towards, and him landing her despite his friendly relationship with Hiroki (MC) made complete sense. What bothers me is Yukari's inconsistent character.

She loves Hiroki and sex, but wants the MC to idolize her less. This is a critical plot point. She's very playful and sexually unreserved, as observed in netorase play and numerous - sometimes explicit - hints towards her past.

Yet the NTR route has her demuring many times to Tetsuya. That maiden-like personality doesn't really fit, and we only see brief hints of playfulnes like after onsen anal defloration. This is a serious issue.

Other flaws:
1. MC hinting at cheating never goes anywhere. Her casually flaunting her own affair (scent in bedroom, hickey) turns out to be unintended unless I missed something. Lack of harmony here, and in a few other places, stands out.
2. DLC with the professor was terrible. What's the point of her telling Tetsuya? It's completely unerotic; they don't have a netorase dynamic, MC makes more sense though the scenes aren't good in the 1st place. The "reveal" of where/how she became sexually practiced is very anti-climactic.
People say NTR is the "true" route, but I think either the netorase or swapping one is instead since her character makes more sense in those. Otherwise, the intended route wouldn't have what I consider writing flaws. It's a shame, because there was some amazing stuff packed in the NTR route. Waffle dropped a chance for this to be a "masterpiece" that pulls off all 3 sub-genres and not merely settle for a very good to great game.


[Atelier] Gyaruzuma Anri no Netorase Play
Even for Atelier, the utter lack of effort and budget spent is incredible. There is no flow, in-game art is recycled more than it usually is, and the sex scenes are incredibly boring despite the writers fulfilling the title name.

Besides the insanely S-tier cover art, I'm surprised this was positively received. Yes, the gyaru archetype wasn't used well in Gyaruzuma Sex, but I'll happy take that over this any day.


[Mijiishi] Mercenary Band NTR
Definitely not as good as Ruins of Luxoria or Amour Maho Academy. Mijiiishi has great netorase titles and it's worth playing if you like that stuff, but advancing the story requires taking on guild challenges and lewding the heroines, which isn't always clear.

The guild mystery selection was an annoying dynamic, and so was the QoL immediate birth feature only being usable when pregnancy is visible, or the carpel tunnel inducing path between the door and bedroom.

It has some incredible scenes but unlocking them felt more of a chore than before, and having multiple heroines was a bad idea. The developer tried to appease too many fans, which is why cameos from other games this time are actually physically involved.


[Guilty`Dash] Tanshin Furin
Newer developer with a netori revenge plot. Story is bad, the art is OK, and the game has less budget than Miel's titles. Yet it's almost charming in a slip-shod way in terms of its plot gimmick, which is very predictible once you realize its revenge focus. I don't recommend it but it's worth monitoring the developer long-term to see if they improve while still putting out non-cookie cutter stories.

Hello, could you give me a guide to the game [Orcsoft] Aisai Nikki? since there is no walkthrough, thank you very much in advance.
 
It might sound contradictory but I kind of wish we'd get more games where the NTR was a just a branching path, instead of the whole game being NTR.
 
It's just I feel the NTR hits harder if it was avoidable all along :T

Oh yes, that is good, honestly i don't mind either way, although i feel a slightly amount of sadistic pleasure if i know the MC is screwed no matter what, but sometimes having the oposite being possible does make it hit harder.

Mmmm i guess it depends on my mood xD
 
It might sound contradictory but I kind of wish we'd get more games where the NTR was a just a branching path, instead of the whole game being NTR.

I find the amount of NTR content the last few years to be much less than about a decade ago (the golden age of NTR around 2010). In general we are getting a lot less visual novel H-games and flooded with low effort, bad art, RPGMaker games (there are still some that are good).
 
I find the amount of NTR content the last few years to be much less than about a decade ago (the golden age of NTR around 2010). In general we are getting a lot less visual novel H-games and flooded with low effort, bad art, RPGMaker games (there are still some that are good).

Thats facts…you can see the extensive NTR works in vndb from 2000-2015. Weird enough the amount of NTR content in h-manga and doujins has increased substantially from 2010
 
Well, eroge in general is in a slump even outside of NTR games. A bit of a dying industry unfortunately.
 
Well, eroge in general is in a slump even outside of NTR games. A bit of a dying industry unfortunately.

Oh god don't say that, i am afraid of the future when i think of companies like Lilith-soft that are big but haven't released a game in years (or feels liek years at least), worse Lilith has less of an excuse since they sold their souls to the endless gacha machine and aparently are doing quite well, menaign they could produce at least 1 game per year.

I pray for anything new coming out of them, do'nt care if its black, mist, soft, etc so long as is a lilith game, maybe Yukikaze 3
 
I've always been meaning to play this game but I never really got around to it despite everyone always praising it. Never knew it had netorase though. Might actually give it a try now. [...]

Be warned that it's a sometimes intense game.

I'm definitely not as high on Mercenary as you, but it's a good game in its own right with some really hot scenes (examples: mind control and Nonna outdoors riding the orc). Just doesn't live up to the Mijiishi standard.

wow a lot of solid game options...unfortunately, not too familiar with playing Japanese games using deepL or textractor.
I play offline using Atlas and any combination of VNR (Visual Novel Reader), Translation Aggregator, Textractor x86, Textractor x64, RPG Maker MV hooker, and (rarely) ITH.

I haven't tried Sugoi or AdventCirno yet. Atlas isn't going to be as good as DeepL, but I'm not in favor of completely online translation.

Speaking of ending you post, is it:
-The one where Misaki and Makkun accept orgy lifestyle and doing sex with curtain sperarting bed and ended with He getting handjob from Misaki while she getting fucked behing
or
- The one where Maakun get tied and get reverse rape by Misaki , and then they accept Maakun fetish. In the end He ask Misaki to wear short skirt to greet their guest
Second one. The 1st was comedically and thematically perfect; it's over the top yet fitting.

I had no idea about Atelier's Anri being Fanta-locked, thanks for the heads up, the company somehow finds ways to establish new lows.

Mijiishi's Amour Maho Academy and Ruins of Luxoria titles both have English translations. I like all of their games, but be sure not to miss those two.

Do myou have link for DLC 交姦の虜たち・・・特典ストーリー ? I can't find it anywhere
Nyaa - https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/3019409

I'll upload it and post separately. There's also other DLC here, I think...not entirely sure.

There's some stuff that applies in-game and the other is a separate executable. The Nyaa files are definitely critical, and maybe that covers both.

Hello, could you give me a guide to the game [Orcsoft] Aisai Nikki? since there is no walkthrough, thank you very much in advance.
Edit: Missed the Orcsoft link posted earlier. Never knew about it (or maybe forgot).

There are 3 gauges, something to the effect of "love", "lust" and "NTR".

Every weekend you have a choice of spending the time with Sanae, or going separately to allow your colleague to come over and corrupt your wife. Ordinarily in weeks leading up to and around Christmas / New Years, there is no choice and husband-wife have happy bonding time.

There are occasional weekday scenes where you can choose to neglect Sanae in favor of work emergencies/overtime, not comfort her when there's no news about a rogue neighborhood molester, sex toy advert, etc., that can help raise gauges. The game also tries to hint towards major events where you may not want to miss.

Also, each section of the house - some unlocking as she becomes increasingly unreserved (look for multiples of 10/15/20 starting off) - have 3-4 variations. They are REALLY hot. I don't recommend text skipping, reload save points if you unlocked new content, IMO it's worth reading all context.

You get different endings - and a few specific in-game events - based on permutations of gauge level. Happy netorase, neglected wife NTR, loveless lusty wife, etc. It's pretty easy to unlock them, I think I only ever miss 1 ending, which is 1 small variation of another unlock because I'm tired of replaying at that point.
 
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These English titles might be wildly off or transliteral bastardizations, but here's the DLC I had for Waffle's Koukan no Toriko-tachi in my drive:
You must give the following reaction to unlock: Like Love Haha Wow

Also, forgot to mention in my original reviews post but the 1st several times I played Aisai Nikki, I hadn't seen the H-movie. The movie follows "happy netorase" route, but interestingly when:

Keisuke reveals to Sanae that he has known all along and runs a train on her with Ryouichi, he claims vaginal penetration.

In the game, I'm pretty sure he claims her anally while she's connected to Ryouichi without any form of contraception.
 
I don´t know if its the lack of good ntr games lately but the new Alice soft game actually looks good...

My only problem with the games released from this brand is that for the story to advance you have to just stroll around the map and not actually be an active part of the story as it happens in Heartful maman.

On the other hand, The new VENUS game is in the last quarter part of the production so may be released in June.
 
Be warned that it's a sometimes intense game.

I play offline using Atlas and any combination of VNR (Visual Novel Reader), Translation Aggregator, Textractor x86, Textractor x64, RPG Maker MV hooker, and (rarely) ITH.

I haven't tried Sugoi or AdventCirno yet. Atlas isn't going to be as good as DeepL, but I'm not in favor of completely online translation.

What would you recommend translation software that is the most hassle free for noobies to use? I'm new to this stuff have no idea what to use for translation. Is textractor good?
 
What would you recommend translation software that is the most hassle free for noobies to use? I'm new to this stuff have no idea what to use for translation. Is textractor good?

AGTH, ITH, Textractor and some other variants are all text hook iterations. Other than figuring out hook codes, which very few people on this site can do -- you find some online for popular titles, or incompatibilities with certain game types (i.e. RPG Maker), none of them are complicated. Many games are easily hooked without a code or needing RegEx (regular expression) filtering. Download Textractor (x86, x64) and learn more about it via online tutorials. They hook and allow automatic copy to clipboard; they do not translate.

VNR uses ITH under the covers and submits copied text to offline (e.g. Atlas) or online engines for translation, and is more integrated:
* Example 1
* Example 2
It's easy but really old. And so is Atlas v14, which isn't ideal for eroges and requires configuring dictionaries, etc. There are Atlas guides and dictionaries you can easily find, but I don't recommend it.

Sugoi Translator requires/uses Textractor and has an offline model (see 2:30+) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8xFzVbmo7k
IIRC there is a successor to this (AdventCirno?). Usability should be well documented online and in videos, it's better to invest time in these. I'll be doing the same in upcoming months.

Whatever you settle for, I strongly suggest something with offline support. It might not be the best quality of translation, but it'll lag less, which is my priority.

Don't worry about playing ALL games now. There are some that work better with certain tools (ex: RPG Maker MV, Unity). Stick to VNDB titles, you should be able to find an easy one. Start there.
 
AGTH, ITH, Textractor and some other variants are all text hook iterations. Other than figuring out hook codes, which very few people on this site can do -- you find some online for popular titles, or incompatibilities with certain game types (i.e. RPG Maker), none of them are complicated. Many games are easily hooked without a code or needing RegEx (regular expression) filtering. Download Textractor (x86, x64) and learn more about it via online tutorials. They hook and allow automatic copy to clipboard; they do not translate.

VNR uses ITH under the covers and submits copied text to offline (e.g. Atlas) or online engines for translation, and is more integrated:
* Example 1
* Example 2
It's easy but really old. And so is Atlas v14, which isn't ideal for eroges and requires configuring dictionaries, etc. There are Atlas guides and dictionaries you can easily find, but I don't recommend it.

Sugoi Translator requires/uses Textractor and has an offline model (see 2:30+) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8xFzVbmo7k
IIRC there is a successor to this (AdventCirno?). Usability should be well documented online and in videos, it's better to invest time in these. I'll be doing the same in upcoming months.

Whatever you settle for, I strongly suggest something with offline support. It might not be the best quality of translation, but it'll lag less, which is my priority.

Don't worry about playing ALL games now. There are some that work better with certain tools (ex: RPG Maker MV, Unity). Stick to VNDB titles, you should be able to find an easy one. Start there.

I still have ATLAS and TA just in case, Atlas at least lets you edit the dictionary so in a few cases its actually better with things like names, many names give problems but with Atlas you can just go a say xxxxx translates as xxxx and its a personal name for example, or with places, objects, etc

Plus offline, even now i still have to get used to having more or less reliable internet xD so until recently those 2 were what i used the most
 
Second one. The 1st was comedically and thematically perfect; it's over the top yet fitting.

I had no idea about Atelier's Anri being Fanta-locked, thanks for the heads up, the company somehow finds ways to establish new lows.

Mijiishi's Amour Maho Academy and Ruins of Luxoria titles both have English translations. I like all of their games, but be sure not to miss those two.
Ah yeah, i also like the orgy group ending too. It was hot but very fucked up for them hahaha. What so funny thing is. Non of that two "main ending" are canon haha.
Canonically any ending where Misaki leave Aida for her husband is the canon one

Hahaha yeah, i was shocked and disappointed when TentacleBandit share about that. I mean come ooon...FAntia stuff should be for bonus or separates stuff from game like What if story. I don't care if they make it like that. But selling main story as Fantia content? That's the worst LOL. No wonder i feels that game was incomplete, turns out theycut main story into Fantia content :( .

These English titles might be wildly off or transliteral bastardizations, but here's the DLC I had for Waffle's Koukan no Toriko-tachi in my drive:
Also, forgot to mention in my original reviews post but the 1st several times I played Aisai Nikki, I hadn't seen the H-movie. The movie follows "happy netorase" route, but interestingly when:

Keisuke reveals to Sanae that he has known all along and runs a train on her with Ryouichi, he claims vaginal penetration.

In the game, I'm pretty sure he claims her anally while she's connected to Ryouichi without any form of contraception.
Thank you so much for the links! I've played Koukan toriko tachi. Surpringsly i enjoy it. But i think it was the shortest Waffle game i have played LOL, this game should be longer haha. But unfortunately, i only enjoy Yurika ero scenes. And the NTR scenes neeed to be much longer. After playing IF DLC, i think that scenes sould be on main game LOL. ANd the game need to end atleast after They openly said about their relationship to MC.

LOL yeah, i remember watching AIsai Nikki OVA back when i was in college LOL. They choose original ending,. In the game MC isn't allowed to fuck her pussy haha, But i prefer AV ending from the game. Sanae turns into really hot sexy slut in that ending. Aisai Nikki bonus content isn't bad, but it's too short. I enjoy Sanae being used by strangers while cosplaying as magical girl, but i don't think that scene is fit with the game pacing, now wonder Orcsoft cut and use it as bonus.

Man i wish Orcsoft care more about their first game...
 
It's just I feel the NTR hits harder if it was avoidable all along :T

IMO NTR games that is 100% NTR is usually not as good. They act less as games rather than a simple Visual Novel.

Games that have branching path and decision making is much better because there's usually more depth. The ability of a developer to write both romance and tragedy is higher than one that simple recycles the same trash NTR troupes that we've all seen a million times.

100% NTR game can be great, but there needs to be actually good storytelling. The couple has to actually feel like a couple, and should read like a regular romance manga. Too many recent games simply sets the premise that a woman and a man is a couple and jumps right into the NTR / blackmail / rape without building up the relationship to something beautiful.

NTR games with romance branching actually has good buildup in the beginning since the other half of it is romance. But it all comes down to writing quality which most NTR games I've played recently are simply bad, misinformed about women, women being too submissive, or men being too weak and unrealistic.