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Anime Sharing - Netorare General Discussion Thread

Holy shit! Is this real fhc from hongfire???? You are a NTR legend, I remember you from hongfire days!!! Welcome back if you are the real one.
 
What makes me sad in the modern NTR games are the fact that all NTR games have a break up end where the girl abandon the protagonist and go away with her lover.

Is like the NTR game makers thinks that NTR fans are masochists that like to suffer and have their hearts broken.

NTR is "cuckold" in japanese, is simple the fetish to see your lover making sex with other man. It is not "lose the woman" or "end alone in agony" I hate games that the girl break up the relationship with the protagonist.

A happy end in NTR game is a girl keep forever a love relationship with the protagonist and at same time she keep making sex with other man. I love it. Too abd is very rare a NTR game with this kind of end. all og them always have the break up relationship end.

My dream in real life is to marry a prostitute and my wife the prostitute support with her money and also making sex with her clients in the front of my eyes.

Serious. I even tried it in real life. I tried a love relationship with 3 different prostitutes, but, I failed and I gave up. Prostitutes in real world see love in a different way. I guess is impossible to marry a prostitute and keep a love relationship with them, the 3 prostitutes that I tried it makes it clear to me. Then I gave up. To have a love NTR relationship is possible only in games, not in real life.

Note: I lost my virginity with a prostitute.a lovely Wife Prostitute is the supreme NTR. Too bad it is impossible in real life and too bad I cannot even find games like this too.
 
fhc said:
NTR is "cuckold" in Japanese, is simple the fetish to see your lover making sex with other man. It is not "lose the woman" or "end alone in agony" I hate games that the girl break up the relationship with the protagonist.
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This is where you're incorrect and why I think you're so frustrated. Netorare does not directly translate to cuckold, although with these things it's all in the nuance. Netori (which is the root word) comes from the idea from 'stealing (a spouse)' or 'getting someone to switching sides' (if used in a non-sexual context). It's historically more associated with cheating than any specific fetish.

Netorare is the receiving form - "having your loved one stolen from you"
Netorase is the active receiving form - "making your loved one stolen from you"

The thing that you're frustrated about is part of the very definition of the word - in order for someone to be "stolen", there needs to be a form of permanence to it that goes beyond a wild night of sex. Netorase is the closest thing to what you're looking for, but if you look at the definition you'll notice that it's still not quite a 100% match.
 
woomba said:
This is where you're incorrect and why I think you're so frustrated. Netorare does not directly translate to cuckold, although with these things it's all in the nuance. Netori (which is the root word) comes from the idea from 'stealing (a spouse)' or 'getting someone to switching sides' (if used in a non-sexual context). It's historically more associated with cheating than any specific fetish.

Netorare is the receiving form - "having your loved one stolen from you"
Netorase is the active receiving form - "making your loved one stolen from you"

The thing that you're frustrated about is part of the very definition of the word - in order for someone to be "stolen", there needs to be a form of permanence to it that goes beyond a wild night of sex. Netorase is the closest thing to what you're looking for, but if you look at the definition you'll notice that it's still not quite a 100% match.
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Also I already talked with japanese people , 寝取られ (NETORARE) or simple NTR is in the meaning of THE BODY OF YOUR LOVER IS STOLEN BY ANOTHER GUY, but is not in any ways means that her heart is stolen, is not that her love is stolen. Just go around in japanese NTR forums and blogs, in all NTR games the guys away ask If the game have or not a happy end, and the happy end is always the protagonist keep the love relationship with the girl besides the NTR act. a BAD end is when the girl abandon the protagonist.

You are so much centered in the grammatical sense of the word. It doesn't matter if it is NTR or NETORASE, both kind of games end in the vast majority of times with the end of the protagonist's relationship with his girl, and the protagonist ends up alone in agony.

I don't care if it's NTR or NETORASE, I want to see the girl I love having sex with another man and even so I want the girl to end the game together with the protagonist, always loving the protagonist.

So many English fans of NTR misunderstood it, they think that the bad end is when the girl makes sex with other man and the happy end is when the NTR is avoided. THIS IS WRONG !!

A happy end in NTR game is when the girl makes sex with other man but she keep loving the protagonist and end the game together with the protagonist loving the protagonist.



etymology, study of the origin of words. 寝取られ really in the beginning was the meaning of to have your lover stolen. During the several years the meaning of the word changed to specifically a genre of erotic literature. In japanese market not exist teh tag fort erotic literature NETORASE, only exist NETORARE or simply NTR. You will never find a shop with the tag NETORASE in their products, only exist the tag NETORARE that is "cuckolding" in english, even in dictionaries you find it like this.

You get it ? Does not matter the meaning the work NETORARE in old times, nowadays it is a tag used to identify a kind of erotic literature that have not any other meaning than the English word "cuckolding" in english>

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/寝取られ

寝取られとは、国語辞典的な定義では動詞「寝取る」の受動形の名詞化された単語。性用語としては基本的に、自分の好きな人が他の者と性的関係になる状況に性的興奮を覚える嗜好の人に向けたフィクションなどの創造物のジャンル名を指す。NTRとも表記される[1]。

I know what I am saying, I am long 20 years browsing japanese NTR forums and Blogs.
 
I think we're agreeing with the Japanese definition of the word. All I'm saying is that none of that exactly matches the western Cuckolding fetish where the guy is often involved in looking for bulls, etc. that you seem to be into. You're frustrated about NTR games not meeting your specific fetish when that's not the norm for NTR in the first place - that's just a sub-part of Netorase/Swapping type in Japan.

This is a frequent discussion point in Japanese NTR blogs/BBSes as well on what counts as true Netorare so probably not the first time you're seeing this.
 
I am getting a NTR dialog with friends and I will just copy and paste here my experiences in the NTR dialog, you not need to read it If you not want.

I am talking about my real life experience with prostitutes in the real world.

I have a bad english, I hope you can understand.

Prostitutes not believe in man. the prostitutes are always thinking that all man just want to take advantage of them. they believe that all man that seek romance with them just want a excuse for free sex. Prostitutes only want a real relationship with a rich man that support them and then they can leave the prostitute life and live comfortable. is IMPOSSIBLE a prostitute to marry a man and then keep working like a prostitute, they are all the time looking for a rich man that can give to then a easy and comfortable life.

I do believe that is IMPOSSIBLE to a prostitute true loves a man, prostitutes only can love the money. They only seeks money in a man. Is impossible to a prostitute trust a man, a prostitute should fell comfortable in a relationship with the idea of her is using the man, but, she never ever will really open her heart to a man and trust him.

Prostitutes cannot trust man, cannot trust even man from their family. 100% of all prostitutes that I meet always are abused in her family as a child, by the father, by step father, or even by own mother that forced then in prostitution as a child.

Maybe it varies between countries, for instance, in Japan or in USA sometimes a adult woman that was always love by her father as a child be herself forced to prostitution when she became adult, but, in Brazil it is impossible: In Brazil no one is forced to pay debts like in Japan and USA, then no woman can be forced in prostitution. In Brazil ALL prostitutes start in prostitution in the childhood forced by family and then they grow as prostitutes and can only live as prostitutes. In Brazil is easy to buy a prostitute child of 10 years old, it exist in everywhere, no one cares, SJW only talk about it on internet but they avoid to look at real people doing it in real life. Even here I live exist child prostitution, but, everybody just makes believe that it not exist, just ignore.

Then, of course, a prostitute that is abused since 10 years old cannot trust or love a man, and they live the whole life trying to go out of the live of prostitution, and the unique way that they think that exist to escape of the life the prostitution is to marry a very rich man, preferable a foreigner. Is the dream of absolute all prostitute: to marry a rich a foreign man.

Then in Brazil is impossible a prostitute marry a man and keep being a prostitute.

Something interesting about prostitutes are that they refuses to work, to get a stable job. In Brazil a stable work pay is R$ 1040,00 per month ( I work and I get R$ 1040,00 per month, I live like this) But a prostitute that work in Copacabana street can get R$ 1000,00 in one night.

Then you can understand: Only a rich man can earn more in a day than a prostitute. Then, of course, a prostitute NEVER will, marry a man that earn less than her.

Only ugly and sick prostitutes live in poverty, but, who wants to marry a ugly and sick prostitute ?

But, I guess, even a ugly and sick prostitute can earn more than R$ 1040,00 per month.

Then, fhc ( I myself) earning R$ 1040,00 per month is impossible to even marry a ugly and sick prostitute !!!

But I wanted a beautiful prostitute. the 3 girls that I tries are beautiful. really, If is to marry a ugly woman, I prefer to live alone forever. I am a ugly 43 years old lonely man that earn just R$ 1040,00 per month then just leave me with my 2D waifu girls in eroge games for the rest of my life.

My penis not enter a vagina long 15 or maybe 20 years , I admit that I not remember well last time that I make sex, but, I am ok. I honestly don't miss it. Who have eroge not need real woman.

Also all woman that I make sex always makes fun of me that I not did it right !
 
fhc said:
I am getting a NTR dialog with friends and I will just copy and paste here my experiences in the NTR dialog, you not need to read it If you not want.

I am talking about my real life experience with prostitutes in the real world.

I have a bad english, I hope you can understand.

Prostitutes not believe in man. the prostitutes are always thinking that all man just want to take advantage of them. they believe that all man that seek romance with them just want a excuse for free sex. Prostitutes only want a real relationship with a rich man that support them and then they can leave the prostitute life and live comfortable. is IMPOSSIBLE a prostitute to marry a man and then keep working like a prostitute, they are all the time looking for a rich man that can give to then a easy and comfortable life.

I do believe that is IMPOSSIBLE to a prostitute true loves a man, prostitutes only can love the money. They only seeks money in a man. Is impossible to a prostitute trust a man, a prostitute should fell comfortable in a relationship with the idea of her is using the man, but, she never ever will really open her heart to a man and trust him.

Prostitutes cannot trust man, cannot trust even man from their family. 100% of all prostitutes that I meet always are abused in her family as a child, by the father, by step father, or even by own mother that forced then in prostitution as a child.

Maybe it varies between countries, for instance, in Japan or in USA sometimes a adult woman that was always love by her father as a child be herself forced to prostitution when she became adult, but, in Brazil it is impossible: In Brazil no one is forced to pay debts like in Japan and USA, then no woman can be forced in prostitution. In Brazil ALL prostitutes start in prostitution in the childhood forced by family and then they grow as prostitutes and can only live as prostitutes. In Brazil is easy to buy a prostitute child of 10 years old, it exist in everywhere, no one cares, SJW only talk about it on internet but they avoid to look at real people doing it in real life. Even here I live exist child prostitution, but, everybody just makes believe that it not exist, just ignore.

Then, of course, a prostitute that is abused since 10 years old cannot trust or love a man, and they live the whole life trying to go out of the live of prostitution, and the unique way that they think that exist to escape of the life the prostitution is to marry a very rich man, preferable a foreigner. Is the dream of absolute all prostitute: to marry a rich a foreign man.

Then in Brazil is impossible a prostitute marry a man and keep being a prostitute.

Something interesting about prostitutes are that they refuses to work, to get a stable job. In Brazil a stable work pay is R$ 1040,00 per month ( I work and I get R$ 1040,00 per month, I live like this) But a prostitute that work in Copacabana street can get R$ 1000,00 in one night.

Then you can understand: Only a rich man can earn more in a day than a prostitute. Then, of course, a prostitute NEVER will, marry a man that earn less than her.

Only ugly and sick prostitutes live in poverty, but, who wants to marry a ugly and sick prostitute ?

But, I guess, even a ugly and sick prostitute can earn more than R$ 1040,00 per month.

Then, fhc ( I myself) earning R$ 1040,00 per month is impossible to even marry a ugly and sick prostitute !!!

But I wanted a beautiful prostitute. the 3 girls that I tries are beautiful. really, If is to marry a ugly woman, I prefer to live alone forever. I am a ugly 43 years old lonely man that earn just R$ 1040,00 per month then just leave me with my 2D waifu girls in eroge games for the rest of my life.

My penis not enter a vagina long 15 or maybe 20 years , I admit that I not remember well last time that I make sex, but, I am ok. I honestly don't miss it. Who have eroge not need real woman.

Also all woman that I make sex always makes fun of me that I not did it right !
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Interesting. I'm honestly quite different from you, if you're interested in hearing about me. I'm pretty decent looking in RL, I have a very high paying job in tech, half your age. I don't remember when I started like NTR, but I like NTR games for the idea of corrupting beautiful and strong willed women. I think I'm more of corruption than NTR, but I find NTR games having corruption elements that makes it entertaining.

I love the idea of having the perfect women, physically, intellectually, and spiritually slowly degrading. I love the idea of a villain showing her what is wrong with her beliefs. For example, I love the idea of a feminist that is proud of being a woman, fighting for rights, successful. And having her come to the realization that women is inherently inferior to men physically (and maybe intellectually too, but the villain has to trick her since I actually don't believe women are dumber than men in RL). Games that have these female warriors that protects the weak, and is a "woman in a man's world" get her ass handed to her and humiliated by a stronger male villain who teases her and insults her pride is my shit.

The NTR aspect of that particular troupe is secondary but makes the story better. For example, a childhood friendship story where the woman and her love competes together, with the woman winning over and gaining confidence, builds character. And then having that taken away by a taller, stronger, smarter man feels really nice. In my view, the cuck in this type of story serves as a weakness for the female for her corruption to take place.

That's my ideal NTR, rather than the dude having agency over his own fetish. Type-C all the way for me.
 
fhc said:
Please Suggest to me a really good NTR game to play

Sorry terrible bad english

Warning, trivial and infuriated fhc rants, read it for your on descricion

Pal, I love NTR, I can fap only seeing a NTR scene. specially a wife NTR scene. For some unknown reason any other kind of sex scene not excite me, I cannot fap.

I am in vacation now and I will restart to work day 4, I am spend all my vacation time playing NTR games, I played several games, a lot really, played one or two hours of each game searching something to make me excited to make a refreshing masturbation.

Some NTR games that I played on those days the husband (protagonist) request to other man to fuck his wife and then he just be in another room while the other man is fucking his wife. you will be only able to see this sex scene from the point of view the wife at the end of the game. I played 3 games like this, I just dropped then without finish.

Some NTR games a husband (protagonist) request for his wife to make sex with a man. in the game, he just be at home while his wife is in a Motel with the lover. In some games the wife arrive at home and then she report the NTR scene for the husband in other games she record only her voice making sex with the lover.

In other game, is even worse, the protagonist (The Husband) request to his wife to be living with her lover a WHOLE WEEK while the husband ( the protagonist) be alone at house a whole week in despair imagining what his wife is doing. The others games I not remember the name, but this last one I will never forget, since is the most ridiculous: 僕に抱かれ喘ぐ妻は、他の男に抱かれた話を紡ぐ

In some games the few NTR scene that happening from the point of view of the protagonist, like he is hearing from the wall a NTR scene happening in the next door or room, the sex scene is blurred in the screen and the protagonist can only hear the voice of his wife. This happened in more than 5 games from アトリエさくら game maker, I not now even feel like to play games from アトリエさくら anymore.

In others games is worse, 95% of the game is from the point of view of the wife and she interacts more with her lover than with her husband, the "protagonist" of the game. This cannot even be considered NTR since the true protagonist are the wife and her lover, the husband is just a side character that be the whole game without even knowing that his wife is cheating.

The unique game that I really liked is 親友に抱かれる俺の妻 , 優来があいつに抱かれる理由 and 人妻セックス from アトリエさくら so far, those 3 games are truly masterpiece, I cannot understand why the others games are so bad.

I cannot understand what is wrong in the head of the guys that are creating NTR games nowadays. You are a Husband, you have a cuckold fetish, is not the correct thing for you to request your wife to make sex with another man in the front of your eyes ? is not normal If you are a cuckold fetishist to be present in the same room while your wife is making sex with another man ? just search for cuckold amateur videos on PornHub, all those cuckold videos are the husband filming his wife making sex with other man, then,

WHY SO MANY GAMES THE PROTAGONIST REQUEST TO HIS WIFE TO MAKES SEX WITH OTHER MAN AND THEN THE PROTAGONIST JUST LEAVES HIS WIFE AND HER LOVER ALONE AND JUST BE WAITING OUTSIDE, IN ANOTHER ROOM ??????

I PLAYED 10 NTR GAMES IN A ROW WITH THIS KIND OF TEMPLATE !!!!!!

Please, save my vacation, I need to masturbate a lot in those last days of my vacation for me to return to work refleshed in day 4 without any stress. Suggest to me a really GOOD ntr game that the NTR scenes happens from the point of view of the protagonist, but the sex really happens in the front of this eyes, not just a sound or a blurred image, not a talked report or a video recorded in a DVD, I want a true NTR scene in the front of the protagonist. A REAL NTR GAME !
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Since people seem to be adding their two cents on your passion for NTR I've decided to add my own opinions.
My favorite kind of NTR is netorase. I kind of get where you're coming from but there are other areas where I differ from you. Usually, when a NTR game has the heroine's POV only I don't even give it a try. In NTR games where you play as the guy first and once you beat the game you get to see the heroine's POV of what actually happened, I usually just stop at the male's POV. What I personally like in netorase might actually be the opposite of you, or actually kind of similar, its hard to tell. My favorite kind of netorase ending is one where the MC and heroine are still together while said heroine bangs another guy with everyone being fine with the situation. In this kind of ending the heroine still loves the MC however since he can't satisfy her she rarely, if ever, has sex with him and goes solely to the other guy. The MC will of course enjoy this since its his fetish and the heroine gets to maintain her relationship while also getting banged by another guy who's better at sex. Where I differ from you as that I actually like some of those scenes you think are stupid (which they kind of are). Scenes where the MC doesn't get to see the heroine having sex and has to go with his imagination and the heroine's word of what happened, the latter which is sometimes quite deceiving. I guess a good way of putting it is that while I do like when the girl I love has sex with another guy, what I really like is when the girl I love may or may not be stolen because the other guy is way better at sex. I like the mystery of the heroine having sex while you're only able to guess what's going on and have to trust her report. Stuff like, 'did she really only bang him twice?', 'was the other guy way better at sex?' and 'is she lying about not having raw sex?'. Even better when she goes behind the MC's back to bang the other guy after she agrees to meet up with him for another round, maybe even record it to show it to the MC later so that he'll be wondering what she'll do behind his back next. In that sense, I like it when the heroine has some urgency. She sees that the MC gets off on NTR so she goes out of her way to sleep with someone else behind his back to further appease the MC's fetish. As I said before, I usually like it when the game ends with the MC and the heroine still being together while said heroine gets banged by another guy. To expand on that, I like it when its not clear who she truly favors in the end. Does she love the MC more despite the fact that he can't please her anymore or does she actually love having sex with the other guy more than her relationship with the MC and simply stays with the MC because that's the MC's fetish which means she can get the best of both worlds. The ending of https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ299836.html is a good example of what I mean. For most of the game, the MC has been unaware of his gf's cheating but she eventually comes clean and promises to not do it again. The MC forgives her and in the immediate next sex scene when he's banging her, she notices that the MC gets more aroused when she brings up her cheating. She offers to cheat again since the MC seems to have discovered his NTR fetish but is still uncertain. In this case, she leads him into agreeing and goes to have sex with her cheating partner again. The game ends with the MC still having a sexual relationship with his gf, though certain things like raw sex she will only do with her cheating partner, and both of them still love each other though the situation is still uncertain. Now the gf is wearing slutty tattoos because of the cheating dude's preferences and is pretty much his borderline sex slave and whenever the MC watches her videos, its pretty clear that she's like a different person when she's banging the other guy. At the very end its revealed that she got knocked up by the cheating guy and that she'll raise it with the MC. The game ends at a pretty good point that leaves a lot of questions. Does the MC feel like this is going too far? Is his gf getting knocked up even more arousing to him? Does the gf love being the other guy's slave more than her relationship with the MC? If the other guy told her to leave the MC would she go through with it or would she stay? Stuff like that is the reason I like netorase. Situations where the heroine stays days at the other guys house and stays past the agreed time limit because she forgot due to the sex being good is my cup of tea because the MC's usually wondering if she's been stolen by that point.
It might be different for everyone but its pretty fascinating to see that there are many things that draw people to NTR. Not sure if I worded this stuff properly but that's just my take on the fetish. I still love other types of netorare, some more than others, and I'm pretty glad for this thread's existence since there's not many places I can talk like this about NTR.
 
Not sure if I'm the only one here but my preference changes frequently. Of course I have a main preference of ntr(type B with the heroine's heart getting stolen) but depending on the mood I suddenly crave for type A, C, Netori, Netorase etc more than B some days and then later it defaults to type B again.
Some days I even crave for vanilla... same thing goes for preference on loli, milf, shota.

Now reading the post above me got me craving for netorase. Time to reinstall some netorase games I got.
 
indifferent said:
Not sure if I'm the only one here but my preference changes frequently. Of course I have a main preference of ntr(type B with the heroine's heart getting stolen) but depending on the mood I suddenly crave for type A, C, Netori, Netorase etc more than B some days and then later it defaults to type B again.
Some days I even crave for vanilla... same thing goes for preference on loli, milf, shota.

Now reading the post above me got me craving for netorase. Time to reinstall some netorase games I got.
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Your welcome, hope you play some good netorase games.
 
damn, the sequel for mosquitone doujin is everything I want and even more, sucks that it got fugged by irodori claimed immediately, just have to wait for english version any day now
 
gyahaha said:
damn, the sequel for mosquitone doujin is everything I want and even more, sucks that it got fugged by irodori claimed immediately, just have to wait for english version any day now
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Yeah, you wouldn't have the raw somehwere? xD
 
Light316 said:
So, they're not continuing another part of the Bakunyuu Dakedo Jimi na Megane Oku-san wa Suki Desu ka?
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I'm sure they will, because there are a lot of comments saying they liked Rei a lot, but obviously it's not gonna be the next one, maybe the next on September.
 
Happy new year everyone!!!!!!!

I wonder wich will be the first new ntr of the yar uploaded? or translated? xD
 
I forget: I just want to make clear that I do not suggest to any of your guys EVER seek a prostitute. This is VERY dangerous, since several prostitutes also deal with criminal people ( at least here in Brazil )

I am a very much shy man and a tremendously coward, I never have the guts to go and enter in a brothel alone or invite any friends to go with me in such places.

I guess, really, "coward" is the thing that most characterize my personality. I do not have guts to enter a prostitute place. Here in Brazil is always criminals who keep prostitutes places.

I frequented prostitutes places because between the years where I was between 20~28 years ( I do not remember exactly the year and correct time, I have a terrible bad memory ) I worked in a place that sell books, and 4 of my work colleagues are people addicted to prostitutes and very near of our place was a prostitute street with several brothels. I was more or less forced to follow then and I lost my virginity in this way. And I became addicted to prostitutes. But exactly because of the time that I spend in prostitutes house I begin to make my work bad and I ended up dismissed from my job and since then I never visited prostitutes again. LOL ! I spend all my money on it.

Really, prostitutes messed up my life. I spend more money that I can and ended in debt and also lost my job and since then I never get a good job with a good pay like that one.

Then my advice: Stay away from prostitutes. Keep yourself only with 2D girl in games, since it is more safe for your body, mind and your money. To say you the truth, keep yourself away from any real woman. Just immerse yourself in the 2D world of games. since I discovered the 2D world of games I begin to live a more happy and fulfilled life.
 
fhc said:
I forget: I just want to make clear that I do not suggest to any of your guys EVER seek a prostitute. This is VERY dangerous, since several prostitutes also deal with criminal people ( at least here in Brazil )

I am a very much shy man and a tremendously coward, I never have the guts to go and enter in a brothel alone or invite any friends to go with me in such places.

I guess, really, "coward" is the thing that most characterize my personality. I do not have guts to enter a prostitute place. Here in Brazil is always criminals who keep prostitutes places.

I frequented prostitutes places because between the years where I was between 20~28 years ( I do not remember exactly the year and correct time, I have a terrible bad memory ) I worked in a place that sell books, and 4 of my work colleagues are people addicted to prostitutes and very near of our place was a prostitute street with several brothels. I was more or less forced to follow then and I lost my virginity in this way. And I became addicted to prostitutes. But exactly because of the time that I spend in prostitutes house I begin to make my work bad and I ended up dismissed from my job and since then I never visited prostitutes again. LOL ! I spend all my money on it.

Really, prostitutes messed up my life. I spend more money that I can and ended in debt and also lost my job and since then I never get a good job with a good pay like that one.

Then my advice: Stay away from prostitutes. Keep yourself only with 2D girl in games, since it is more safe for your body, mind and your money. To say you the truth, keep yourself away from any real woman. Just immerse yourself in the 2D world of games. since I discovered the 2D world of games I begin to live a more happy and fulfilled life.
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Saved by hentai. You should right a book on that.
 
This was a bad year for 2D games, had to fix my dedicated laptop, was busy with work, and some other activities.

However, I've finished it off with a bang by replaying Mijiishi's The Ruins of Luxoria:
https://f95zone.to/threads/the-ruins-of-luxoria-final-mijiishi.48387/

I looked up my original impressions, and here's 1 from March 2019.

Having a proper (re)play of this in English, I can safely state that this is the best Mijiishi game by far and 1 one of the best RPGM games when it comes to netorase.

The scenes are so fucking good and the characters are actually a lot more wholesome than I interpreted in my 1st play through. I drafted so many mental impressions that I wanted to type out, but I really think there's no point now that I'm at the task itself. Just play it if you haven't already.

Recommendations:
1. Defloration by another male is possible and fits the heavy theme
2. Give birth to 10 children by the blacksmith to unlock all major endings
3. Brothel and colleagues are intertwined, use them fully
4. Don't worry about a few minor endings (developer went slightly overboard to compensate for Amour Maho Academy being an amazing game, but somewhat of an incomplete mess)

What an outrageously good game. Would have been perfect if the cameo characters played a larger role, ecchi wasn't completely dominated by the blacksmith, there was a key to teleport back to the bedroom, and there was an ability to advance time by multiple days. Either way, glad I ended 2020 with this despite my massive backlog.
 
I just checked out https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ235583.html, which someone was kind enough to pack with a MTL translator script into the Unity game.

The game has quite a bit of promise IMO. The only downside is that it's too short, and the heroine is kinda fat and "average" looking for a drawing. The writing is somewhat believable, I was very impressed by the troupe of a female gamer. In the beginning of the game, it talks about a girl who is really good at a game that I suppose is League of Legends. She wants to compete in a pro team, but she's a girl and others give her shit for it. The premise of the blindfold comes in when she says learning to listen to the sound of the games and sharpening her hearing helps her be a better player. All of this plot makes sense and is quite cute to see a woman try to compete in a "man's world". Something beautiful about that.

Sadly, it falls short because the MC is just way too weak to be believable. In reality, even the wimpiest loser would want to protect the girl rather than whore her out. For the following reasons: 1) his first girlfriend, and probably the only girl in his life that was nice to him other than his Mom, 2) from me skipping the premise, it's only that he was afraid of getting his ass kicked?. He would gladly take a beating and try to outwit his abusers, think of a wimpy guy bringing a knife and trying to stab the dude (because of how weak and mentally retarded he is), or the Columbine shooters where the bullied takes revenge after reaching his breaking point.

The game would be a masterpiece IMO if the girl was cuter, maybe more tomboyish because shes a gamer right? Kinda play into that troupe a bit. Think DvA from Overwatch as what a cute gamer girl should actually look like. She's suppose to have a bit of spunk in her, as well as a bit of confidence because she's good at the game. It would also be better if the corruption was slower (don't even need that many H-Scenes), with more dialog and more programming to give choice and mystery.

Really confused as to why this game turned out this way. Their previous game, https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ195414.html, was really fucking good. Heroine was perfect, and a lot more content. Albeit the girls still don't fight hard enough.

I really think it's a culture thing in Japs where they simply can't fathom a girl acting like a boy and having interests and thought patterns similar to one. Not talking about the cutesy tomboys you see in a lot of anime and manga, but actual ones that other than their body and their sexual preference, it's identical to a woman. Only one I can really think about is Rahilda in https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ170185.html 涙声のギニヨル. Really need authors to put their perverted minds away and put themselves in the shoes of a NTR MC or blackmailed heroine.

This wimpy, passive, do-nothing writing from both the male MC and the heroine is pathetic and quite frankly, stale.
 
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