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Anime Sharing - Netorare General Discussion Thread

NTR games aren't entirely dead. Well, not yet.

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I'm making a pure NTR game. I hired Japanese artists and voice actors, and there's no AI usage whatsoever.
However, it's very, very expensive. More info on my game here.
https://www.skyblueaster.com/heartswornabyss

Right now, we are looking for support so we make new heroine sprites and ugly bastards. We would like to make one new voiced scene per month. If you could contribute, we would sincerely appreciate it.
https://www.patreon.com/skyblueaster

Currently, we have released 2 chapters with 30k words and voice acting, but it is difficult to maintain the high-quality artwork and voice acting without additional support. I am not from a wealthy place, so it took me years of saving to get this far. :(
 
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NTR games aren't entirely dead. Well, not yet.

ss_3174158e7bbbb4c65f0e01c8081a461c22ca037a.1920x1080.jpg


I'm making a pure NTR game. I hired Japanese artists and voice actors, and there's no AI usage whatsoever.
However, it's very, very expensive. More info on my game here.
https://www.skyblueaster.com/heartswornabyss

Right now, we are looking for support so we make new heroine sprites and ugly bastards. We would like to make one new voiced scene per month. If you could contribute, we would sincerely appreciate it.
https://www.patreon.com/skyblueaster

Currently, we have released 2 chapters with 30k words and voice acting, but it is difficult to maintain the high-quality artwork and voice acting without additional support. I am not from a wealthy place, so it took me years of saving to get this far. :(
Sorry, man, but that's now how you earn money in this niche. There are relatively popular NTR, mostly netorase works, that are made using AI art that get dozens of 5-star reviews on f95, all they have is high quality AI art and a story premise that has a lot of potential. There are also other games that use relatively free assets, like some wildly popular games of different genres that use Koikatsu, or Honeyselect models, that can be used for free. You chose a very wrong approach to succeeding in this niche.

The way to earn money with a h-game is to make a working alpha 0.1 version with about an hour of content or less using free tools and trying to hook people with the premise and your writing. If you aren't from a first world country and earn six figures in $$$ and thus can't just risk spending a few thousand bucks for no return, you should never spend more than 100$ on your first project. The main deciding factor if your game will succeed isn't even its art and definitely not voice acting, the latter being absolutely irrelevant for the vast majority of people while costing the most. You'll already be ahead of other developers if you just add cute moaning bgv, lol. Instead, the main factors are the story's premise and quality of your writing.

What I would've done if I wanted to succeed with an NTR game nowadays : I'd made a few short alpha versions of different games with different premises, definitely would choose netorase as nowadays it's the most popular NTR sub-genre among English audience, and then see which of the alphas was the most popular. I'd use only relatively free resources for art or hire some AI artist who could create good art for 1/10 of the price if I was too lazy to learn how to do this myself, or, more likely, use Koikatsu like the developer of the King of Summer, one of the most successful NTR games made by a westerner, it also allows you to add animations which are important for a certain category of people.

But beware that if you're going for a niche market like NTR, then even earning just 1-3k$ per month on Patreon is considered a "great success". That's the reality of the market, that's how much the "top developers" like Hangovercat earn, and you won't get there in a month or even a year. Honestly, if I wanted to earn $$$ as a h-game developer I'd stay away from straight NTR, making something more mainstream and then adding completely avoidable NTR as a bonus content and for my own satisfaction, I'd even add a "skip all NTR" option to not turn off an average player.
 
A short review of Solgante DLC

Ah man... i was hoping balance portion between the three of them. And what i got was... Daston focused story again , hahaha.

I ain't complaining Daston exta story, his part the best and raunchy one ofcourse. But for other two, it was kinda letdown . If you're Harry fans, his extra DLC story events are pretty hot. But some are just like rehash of his previous ero event. Naji extra events was .... IDK kinda weird i guess, it has a bit inconsistency with Naji personality part. In thr base game ending , he aint an innocent boy anymore, but in his DLC he act like a virgin. It was Eleanor who being dominant for his DLC ero events.

  • Eleanor ordered to service her subordinates by Harry, it was hot as fuck!
  • The restaurant ero event on Harry extra also full of debauchery, this one was the one where Eleanor doesn't feels awkward to humiliate and betrayed her husband
  • I was really disappointed with Harry event in mecha cockpit with Eleanor. He didn't event trying to roleplaying when fuck her in there. What a wssted potential
  • Naji two simulation event was hot, it's finally granted my wish to see Naji cockpit ero event. But his pool ero event was meh. I wish it was three simulation events instead pool event
  • Like i said this DLC was more focused on Duston story. All of his events was fresh , hot, and unique. Ofcourse all chained events for the new rubber suits was hot as fuck. Two new battle events from this part also my favorite. The banquet sex events was the one that i find it meh
  • Outside those new suit events, i love the bukkake gangbang makeup event on Duston route. It was hot AF! I can't wait to play with uncensored mod. Also Duston clothed paizuri event deserve recognition. That scene was short but effectively sexy! Much better than Naji's pool event.
 
Sorry, man, but that's now how you earn money in this niche. There are relatively popular NTR, mostly netorase works, that are made using AI art that get dozens of 5-star reviews on f95, all they have is high quality AI art and a story premise that has a lot of potential. There are also other games that use relatively free assets, like some wildly popular games of different genres that use Koikatsu, or Honeyselect models, that can be used for free. You chose a very wrong approach to succeeding in this niche.

The way to earn money with a h-game is to make a working alpha 0.1 version with about an hour of content or less using free tools and trying to hook people with the premise and your writing. If you aren't from a first world country and earn six figures in $$$ and thus can't just risk spending a few thousand bucks for no return, you should never spend more than 100$ on your first project. The main deciding factor if your game will succeed isn't even its art and definitely not voice acting, the latter being absolutely irrelevant for the vast majority of people while costing the most. You'll already be ahead of other developers if you just add cute moaning bgv, lol. Instead, the main factors are the story's premise and quality of your writing.

What I would've done if I wanted to succeed with an NTR game nowadays : I'd made a few short alpha versions of different games with different premises, definitely would choose netorase as nowadays it's the most popular NTR sub-genre among English audience, and then see which of the alphas was the most popular. I'd use only relatively free resources for art or hire some AI artist who could create good art for 1/10 of the price if I was too lazy to learn how to do this myself, or, more likely, use Koikatsu like the developer of the King of Summer, one of the most successful NTR games made by a westerner, it also allows you to add animations which are important for a certain category of people.

But beware that if you're going for a niche market like NTR, then even earning just 1-3k$ per month on Patreon is considered a "great success". That's the reality of the market, that's how much the "top developers" like Hangovercat earn, and you won't get there in a month or even a year. Honestly, if I wanted to earn $$$ as a h-game developer I'd stay away from straight NTR, making something more mainstream and then adding completely avoidable NTR as a bonus content and for my own satisfaction, I'd even add a "skip all NTR" option to not turn off an average player.
maybe he wants to create a work that he's proud of, and his primary goal isnt to make money lol
 
A short review of Solgante DLC

Ah man... i was hoping balance portion between the three of them. And what i got was... Daston focused story again , hahaha.

I ain't complaining Daston exta story, his part the best and raunchy one ofcourse. But for other two, it was kinda letdown . If you're Harry fans, his extra DLC story events are pretty hot. But some are just like rehash of his previous ero event. Naji extra events was .... IDK kinda weird i guess, it has a bit inconsistency with Naji personality part. In thr base game ending , he aint an innocent boy anymore, but in his DLC he act like a virgin. It was Eleanor who being dominant for his DLC ero events.

  • Eleanor ordered to service her subordinates by Harry, it was hot as fuck!
  • The restaurant ero event on Harry extra also full of debauchery, this one was the one where Eleanor doesn't feels awkward to humiliate and betrayed her husband
  • I was really disappointed with Harry event in mecha cockpit with Eleanor. He didn't event trying to roleplaying when fuck her in there. What a wssted potential
  • Naji two simulation event was hot, it's finally granted my wish to see Naji cockpit ero event. But his pool ero event was meh. I wish it was three simulation events instead pool event
  • Like i said this DLC was more focused on Duston story. All of his events was fresh , hot, and unique. Ofcourse all chained events for the new rubber suits was hot as fuck. Two new battle events from this part also my favorite. The banquet sex events was the one that i find it meh
  • Outside those new suit events, i love the bukkake gangbang makeup event on Duston route. It was hot AF! I can't wait to play with uncensored mod. Also Duston clothed paizuri event deserve recognition. That scene was short but effectively sexy! Much better than Naji's pool event.
I have seen CG of Solgante DLC on exhentai. There are "happy ending" that I am interesting when her got pregnant. Who is the curpit?
I already download v.1.9 but the pregnancy ending at 2.0. Now I have wait for someone upload it.
 
I have seen CG of Solgante DLC on exhentai. There are "happy ending" that I am interesting when her got pregnant. Who is the curpit?
I already download v.1.9 but the pregnancy ending at 2.0. Now I have wait for someone upload it.
There's a choice for Naji route, if you choose to make Eleanor to only close with you, the baby hair color will match with player character hair color.
 
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Guys, AI chat with NPCs in NTR game arrived !!!
Support the dev, he's a great guy and delivers good stuff!
 
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An MTL was released for Aisai Nikki - https://sugoivisualnovel3.up.railway.app/vns/8280

Surely, by now, everyone that reads this thread has played this already. If you haven't for some reason, do so; past reviews, including my own, can be found in past threads. I would have loved a real translation but it wasn't meant to be...still glad that it'll lead to more exposure on this beloved masterpiece.

Novel recommendations or reminders:
  • Retired Warrior's Netorase Play is a must read MTL for netorase fans, at least for Mira's scenes. Some content is a bit hardcore, and I freely skip those sections. Plot involves netorase curse, returned isekai + harem, and a handful of said heroines' curse characteristics.
  • Black Witch Detective Agency ~Netorase Case~, my all-time favorite ero novel recent chapter/concluded episode was some of the best since the orgasmic prologue. Sad news is that the author, who is always struggling with health, apparently was diagnosed with glaucoma. He's going to continue writing, but rate his novel max stars if you have or sign-up for an 18+ Syosetu account -- it's a gem of a story. Also netorase, but with NTR elements intermixed.
  • Magical Girl Pure Kiss (NTR) that I mentioned last time a month or so ago, concluded shortly thereafter. I found it to be quite decent.

Mainly, I wanted to post the news about Aisai Nikki. Hope Anim's Hitozuma Koukan Nikki (for Kanako) can get similar love in the future.
 
Hi guys, have some good news for y all.
After 7 years, Lune Team Bitters has finally announced a new full priced ntr eroge!

Haishin NTR ~Ano Douga wa Nagasanaitte Yakusoku Shita Janai Desu ka!?~

Now some of you will think "yeah yeah, here they come again with a million netori guys going after the heroine and every route feels short and disappointing". Well then this news will be even better. It's just one guy! That makes at least me excited. Release date is the end of January 25.
 
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Hi guys, have some good news for y all.
After 7 years, Lune Team Bitters has finally announced a new full priced ntr eroge!

Haishin NTR ~Ano Douga wa Nagasanaitte Yakusoku Shita Janai Desu ka!?~

Now some of you will think "yeah yeah, here they come again with a million netroi guys going after the heroine and every route feels short and disappointing". Well then this news will be even better. It's just one guy! That makes at least me excited. Release date is the end of January 25.
I was waiting for THIS!!!!
 
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An MTL was released for Aisai Nikki - https://sugoivisualnovel3.up.railway.app/vns/8280

Surely, by now, everyone that reads this thread has played this already. If you haven't for some reason, do so; past reviews, including my own, can be found in past threads. I would have loved a real translation but it wasn't meant to be...still glad that it'll lead to more exposure on this beloved masterpiece.

Novel recommendations or reminders:
  • Retired Warrior's Netorase Play is a must read MTL for netorase fans, at least for Mira's scenes. Some content is a bit hardcore, and I freely skip those sections. Plot involves netorase curse, returned isekai + harem, and a handful of said heroines' curse characteristics.
  • Black Witch Detective Agency ~Netorase Case~, my all-time favorite ero novel recent chapter/concluded episode was some of the best since the orgasmic prologue. Sad news is that the author, who is always struggling with health, apparently was diagnosed with glaucoma. He's going to continue writing, but rate his novel max stars if you have or sign-up for an 18+ Syosetu account -- it's a gem of a story. Also netorase, but with NTR elements intermixed.
  • Magical Girl Pure Kiss (NTR) that I mentioned last time a month or so ago, concluded shortly thereafter. I found it to be quite decent.

Mainly, I wanted to post the news about Aisai Nikki. Hope Anim's Hitozuma Koukan Nikki (for Kanako) can get similar love in the future.
Im not a big fans of MTL, but Thank you so much!!!