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MY Internet was VERY slow since COVID. I need VPN to open this site, and slow internet plus VPN is so slow, it hard to load this site.
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First CG previews of Anim's newest swapping game is out, featuring the gyaru at the beach and the girlfriend giving a bj.
It looks amazing. Anim has a good track record for being digital friendly. Looking at the release history of their other games gives me hope. If they put it out on digital stores, I will preorder.
It looks amazing. Anim has a good track record for being digital friendly. Looking at the release history of their other games gives me hope. If they put it out on digital stores, I will preorder.
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Welcome to my life!!!!....i share your pain, ecept mine is the default state T.T
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This author/doujin series is pretty good and doesnt seem to be well known https://nhentai.net/g/219549/
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I just wish the blondes boobs didn't make the rest of her body look so out of proportion. I feel if they were a tad smaller but still big then it/she would look better drawn. I'm excited though for this game, I'm curious how it will end though.
So many of ANIM swinging games have really bad endings (which is good if your into NTR) but my favorite ANIM game by far is 僕に抱かれ喘ぐ妻は、他の男に抱かれた話を紡ぐ which is netorase and technically swinging is the same thing - so I would LOVE to see this new anim game be more realistic in the sense that swinging (even in japanese culture) doesn't result in bad endings. So i hope they make it a little more light heart in that sense then their previous swinging games. Don't get me wrong, even in japanese culture swining and netorase is different and more "emotionally involved" then western culture which I love - but you can still have good endings.
Plus I found with the previous swinging ANIM games with the husband not really into his own wife, actually if I recall he can leave her for the other mans wive too.
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Ok, after my above post I have to ask this question which I find is relevant to SO many NTR games - that being the husbands disinterest in his own wife until he is NTR'd.
Outside of "magical transforming love interest" with girls who get corrupted over time, I find most NTR games (save a few) with married husbands don't really know their wives very well or find time to have sex with them. Sometimes it portrays them as disinterested in their wives until they are fucking other men and are completely shocked that their wives cheat on them. I get japanese culture is still to some extent stuck in the past with wives staying home and husbands spending day/night as the office (aka salary men) and never seeing each other until they discover the wive they haven't had sex with suddenly has a sex drive (SHOCK!) he never bothered to turn on and some other guy did.
For me thats one reason why I've been drawn to netorase games, because often in this situation the husbands do have a sexual relationship with their partner and want to see their wive do all the crazy things with another man she does with him - but of course with NTR twists. To me if just feels like their is more to lose because they are more invested in their wives - yes I know their are exceptions as mentioned above the last two swinging games from ANIM the husbands were more interested in each others wives then their own.
I just find this notion of "shocking" ntr, to be hardly shocking when it seems like so many husbands are oblivious to their wives own needs or make any effort to give pleasure to begin with. It feels like they just didn't care and suddenly do, which feels almost more possessive then emotional which is the not what NTR should be about (at least in my head).
I guess in this sense to me it often seems like it just a domestic relationship more then a romantic relationship and I get angry when husbands get hurt by NTR despite never having sex with their own wives in the outset.
Outside of "magical transforming love interest" with girls who get corrupted over time, I find most NTR games (save a few) with married husbands don't really know their wives very well or find time to have sex with them. Sometimes it portrays them as disinterested in their wives until they are fucking other men and are completely shocked that their wives cheat on them. I get japanese culture is still to some extent stuck in the past with wives staying home and husbands spending day/night as the office (aka salary men) and never seeing each other until they discover the wive they haven't had sex with suddenly has a sex drive (SHOCK!) he never bothered to turn on and some other guy did.
For me thats one reason why I've been drawn to netorase games, because often in this situation the husbands do have a sexual relationship with their partner and want to see their wive do all the crazy things with another man she does with him - but of course with NTR twists. To me if just feels like their is more to lose because they are more invested in their wives - yes I know their are exceptions as mentioned above the last two swinging games from ANIM the husbands were more interested in each others wives then their own.
I just find this notion of "shocking" ntr, to be hardly shocking when it seems like so many husbands are oblivious to their wives own needs or make any effort to give pleasure to begin with. It feels like they just didn't care and suddenly do, which feels almost more possessive then emotional which is the not what NTR should be about (at least in my head).
I guess in this sense to me it often seems like it just a domestic relationship more then a romantic relationship and I get angry when husbands get hurt by NTR despite never having sex with their own wives in the outset.
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It is more likely that Anim's new swinging game will lean towards vanilla netorase than corruption netorare. The writer was not involved with the first duology of married swinging games (kabe no mukou~) which had pure ntr routes, but rather the most recent mother swinging and wife netorase one. I would guess based on the new game's title that it will also stay towards vanilla netorase since it seems like the girlfriend is all for it.
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I hope so, I don't mind "bad endings" but this type of story needs to offer both in my head, not an entire story leading to bad endings like the last swinging game - I even considered when the husband left his wife for the other wive a bad ending lol.
Per the girlfriend, I like in the first CG sample of her expression, she looks kind of annoyed like fine I'll do this...are you watching? Good.
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Its very possible, might be August though. Hard to say with regards to Fantia involvement (maybe they want to spend more time promoting it on there?) I dunno...so far besides the one "rough draft" their hasn't seemed to be much involvement with Fantia. Honestly they've probably interacted more over twitter with fans with that website.
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Luckily Anim always unloads a ridiculous number of CGs onto the sample gallery with text so it'll be clear which direction they are heading.
Atelier Sakura seems to have four announced games in its pipeline with this newest twitter announcement. This new one for June (releasing alongside Anim) looks like it is netorase.
My translation is: Boyfriend Authorised Sex Friend ~ Loving Girlfriend's Carnal Pleasure With Sex Friend
Atelier Sakura seems to have four announced games in its pipeline with this newest twitter announcement. This new one for June (releasing alongside Anim) looks like it is netorase.
My translation is: Boyfriend Authorised Sex Friend ~ Loving Girlfriend's Carnal Pleasure With Sex Friend
So excited for Avantgarde's new game, really hope he announces the release date soon! https://ci-en.dlsite.com/creator/69/article/243745
So i emailed Atelier Sakura and Mangagamers. I told Mangagamers how i was excited for their partnership with Atelier Sakura but was disappointed that they didn't release anything new after 2 games. I also mentioned how i would like if they get Animm titles. Mangagamers responded and said they'll inform their licensing team about this.
Atelier Sakura responded to me as well and said at the moment they have no plans for english releases, but will in the future.
My suggestions to folks here is that send messages to Animm, Atelier Sakura and Mangagamer either through twitter or email telling them you want english translations and what titles you'd like to see translated. Obviously overnight they wont come but if enough people make noise some progress will likely happen.
Here's hoping that someday we get more english releases.
Atelier Sakura responded to me as well and said at the moment they have no plans for english releases, but will in the future.
My suggestions to folks here is that send messages to Animm, Atelier Sakura and Mangagamer either through twitter or email telling them you want english translations and what titles you'd like to see translated. Obviously overnight they wont come but if enough people make noise some progress will likely happen.
Here's hoping that someday we get more english releases.
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Yoooo
This is nice? i mean what did takeda say? And i hope that game ends up on the priority list or some monster team xD
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See and this is why I didn't enjoy this type of NTR, its like none of the characters care for each other. Whats the point of NTR if everybody is fucking everybody and no feelings are involved? Its like they all got married for the sake of getting married and have no feelings for each other, then stay married together despite still not liking each other. Its like some kind of marriage arrangement situation where each spouse gets a lover and stays married because its expected but have no feelings for each other or lost them. To me thats just not NTR.
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The Kabe no Mukou~ swinging games was always set up for hard NTR since there was always a feeling of reluctant participants among the main couples. I think the new one will have the same atmosphere as the wife netorase one since the protag appears to be advertised simiarly, but lots of people do prefer a classic NTR route and was disappointed with Boku ni Dakare Aegu Tsuma for that exact reason. Simarly lots of people liked Kabe no Mukou for the corruption, but to me a heroine cheating for your enjoyment rather than just her own is just S+++ tier on the erometre.
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Kagura only ask is it okay to DM him. And Takeda said "No problem". Let's hope their collaboration in the future.
https://twitter.com/KaguraGames/status/1248782643656708099
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Good move, ntr visual novels are a niche of a niche, so is important to show them that there is demand. I will also try to write something to them.
I hope that in this new visual novel by team.mm the swing gets the ntr treatment since the beginning and that we get many bad endings and just one good ending. One thing that I liked is that the main love interest seems to be dominant and snob, this is a good characteristic to make femdom and humiliation scenes. I want those scenes, because it is good ntr when the heart of the girl is stolen (the heart is much more important for me than the body) and then the girl destroys all hope and relationship she had with the protagonist without regret, treating him like an old toy that she does not want anymore. Unfortunately, until now, I am feeling more netorase vibes, mainly because in the protag page it is saying "ntr disposition/inclination" and this is a red flag for me, because I think this means that he likes it. But I still have hope, because even in a netorase scenario, his trust can be betrayed, and he can lose all control of the situation and fall in despair.
Also, I am anxious for the Atelier Sakura May release, Hoka no Otoko no Seieki de Haramu Toki 3, because the first ntr visual novel I have played was Hoka no Otoko no Seieki de Haramu Toki 1 and I think that this setting (infertile protagonist needs to let another man impregnated his wife) is very underutilized. I like this setting, because the protagonist is paranoid, he is not lending his wife because he wants to or because he likes ntr, unlike a netorase setting, so there is more suspense for both the protagonist and the reader. And this setting have the potential for many lies and betrays, for example, she gets pregnant, but don't tell the protagonist, so she can continue to have sex with the ntrguy etc.
Nice to see the initiative. I often emailed Mangagamer too but haven't in a while. Some new opinions can certainly help confirm there's more interest in this genre.
As for more English releases I'm sure we'd all like to see them; even a fan translation after all this time. However I'm guessing nobody wants to risk ruining any potential plans by releasing a fan translation first and I think everyone can agree we'd prefer an uncensored release anyway despite the slow progress.
Guess now is a good a time as any to mention this again
Can't remember if anyone ever mentioned these
The third game https://e-hentai.org/g/1437800/193d26bbf2/
and prequel https://e-hentai.org/g/1478844/b3b9c5fcdb/
Yes it's a lot of pages but every page isn't actually super text heavy and also wouldn't be as time consuming as translating the game itself.
Most of us know the story of each game thanks to VNR or summaries from Japanese readers but being able to re-read it in English would be great and maybe help renew interest in the franchise to new fans who haven't played the games.
These sets most likely would never get an official English translation anyway so a fan translation is better than none and doesn't harm potential development of the games themselves; if anything helps promote them and maybe more fans will request MangaGamer and Atelier Sakura to release an official English uncensored version sooner?
TL;DR anyone want to be a hero and translate these sets? Give us something to look forward to until the Fantia Marina game comes out later this year? (assuming current events don't delay it drastically)
Circling back to requesting official translations, can anyone confirm if Oral Lessons With Chii-chan from Fakku has sold decently? It would be nice to see their partnership with Orcsoft continue so we can get some of those NTR games translated (Dwarfsoft too)
Couldn't hurt to email Fakku and Orcsoft and contact their social media also
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The problem is their sales were horrible for NTR games, although we might seem like legion, most western anime fans HATE NTR and are used to pirating everything anyway as mangagamer once wrote about.
So Mangagamer has to deal with huge piracy issues and add small market for english NTR genr,e I'm not surprised they stopped licensing. Its pretty clear looking at sales charts the majority of their sales come from pure love games outside of Maggot which is an outliner of the last few years - I'd argue Alicesoft games are the only ones that ever really seem to make it on the chart that aren't pure love.
Per ANIM, ya thats never gonna happen, not only would the licensing cost be too much but they'd also have to deal with the cost of licensing PlayDRM which has a contract with ANIM. Try to explain not using it when ANIM is paying for it to reduce piracy into a western market oversaturated with piracy. Plus if people aren't willing to pay like $20 for NTR games they certainly aren't going to pay $40 for ANIM NTR games.
The fact of the matter is most western players just pirate visual novels and NTR does not sell well in english markets to justify licensing it. If they didn't make a profit on what Atelier considers their most popular game/character (Marina) then they certainly won't expect to make a profit on its sequels or other games. Even in its week of release it didn't break their top 10 for sales on mangagamer.
Another BIG issue with NTR is community divide - for example I prefer NTR netorase games - which is basically the games AS licensed to Mangagamer - but a LOT of people hate netorase or don't even consider it proper NTR. So they aren't going to buy it from mangagamer, anymore then I'm going to buy NTR games that are non-netorase from mangagamer.
I mean just look at the new swinger ANIM game, I want something light and fun from it like a true swinger game - while others want all bad endings and betrayal. To tell either story you basically have to create a plot with an overall vibe in one direction which WILL alienate one part of the NTR fan base.
Its also telling when they opened up polls and requests/suggestions for licensing (including more Atelier games) the results didn't register a single interest in any NTR title or publisher - so the majority of mangagamer customers clearly aren't interested in NTR in whatever form. Especially when they majority of them clearly prefer love route games.
So I suspect if they DO try one more time it will be make or break it for NTR licenses - and I suspect the majority of players will (again) pirate it instead of pay. So I just don't think the money is there to justify it for mangagamer again.
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Sadly the only NTR games that sell in the west are when they are included as bonus routes, like in Ecaslayer or as RPG games. Neither Marina nor Mariko sold enough to warrant sequels and they were the market feelers. Oyako Rankan has been requested for years as a potential hit but Mangagamer know the numbers better than we do.
The good news is that NTR is still holding up in Japan even as many other genres in their domestic visual novel market are becoming squeezed out. You only need to look at the new releases of major JAV publishers to see how many have NTR slapped on the cover.
The good news is that NTR is still holding up in Japan even as many other genres in their domestic visual novel market are becoming squeezed out. You only need to look at the new releases of major JAV publishers to see how many have NTR slapped on the cover.
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Yeah we need to buy then, although it needs to be a title i really like, i bought Alice soft game because of it but didn't buy Bitter Exclusion for example sicne its not that great (plus not really ntr, with the girl at least), i mean if they liscensed something liek Gatenkei or from Anim i would buy it even if i have to safe money from the moment it is announced xD
Although if i end up moving to anopther country i will just buy anything that has NTR :P, my reticense is that is hard for me to buy any game of any kind (and i don't have any credit card that works to uy online internationally)
Also they need to take a page from Kagura games, i think they are displacing them if not already so, i have already saved for Gyuu's game and also for Kubel (well i hope i can end up buying the second too)