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Anime Sharing - Netorare General Discussion Thread

https://vndb.org/v5070

I don't care about the story but damn the artist really know how to make an art. It's that good.

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Couple pieces of news:

1. LINDA kickstarter is now less than 14k away from its goal. Be great if there was a final push for the remaining days

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/pushpublication/linda-project-official-english-localization/


2. Mangagamer has opened a 2020 licensing survey so now's your chance to request NTR games you'd like to see in English and uncensored

https://forms.gle/afzrQKbr4UMq7iZS6

Even if you think it won't make a difference, your opinion/voice should still be heard!



Here is the google translation, for those with lazy bones;

"[Kiyo] <Notice>
At Fantia, we are planning a crossover work between Marina of the rental wife Marina series and the past Sakuma man.
"Maryna, be embraced by another man in front of me! 』
A man embraces Marina in front of her husband while being voted.
Details will be announced next week!"

Couple of interesting notes, Gentle Sasaki hasn't realeased anything gor a year (according to vndb). Previously he'd released one or two a year. Hopefully it could mean this is bigger than the usual Atelier trash. That is of course complete speculation.

"Sakuma man" is odd because best I can tell Sakuma means man/ boy.

I'd enjoy it if it were Bob especially if he linked in to their daughter (now having grown up). I doubt atelier is dark enough to do that.

I hope if they are bringing her back it's not for a cash grab (definitley is) and is instead to push the envelope.

Also not sure what being 'voted' could mean. Perhaps watched or supported?

I somehow missed this but even if it's clearly a cash grab it's still something I'll check out.

I get the feeling Atelier Sakura has been in a rut the past couple years. Not too surprising they're bringing back arguably their most popular and best selling IP.

It would require a lot of extra effort but I've always wondered why they've never bothered to ask around any studios about the possibility of some hentai OVAs or setting up a new anime division/department of their own.

While most hentai OVAs currently (and for what feels like a decade now) are cheaply made and usually inferior to the manga or game they're based on, Atelier Sakura could show some initiative and create an anime hentai (like for the Marina series) with high production values; when was the last time a hentai OVA was released on Blu-ray in Japan?

Sorry if I'm breaking any forum rules discussing politics but I remember reading a while back there was a Japanese politician named Taro Yamada. An actual otaku who campaigned on the platform of anti-censorship for anime, manga and games. Who knows if any actual progress will be made but would be pretty amazing if somehow he manages to abolish those outdated laws of censoring (pixels) private parts in hentai. No average politician (with other goals) would make this issue a high priority; probably because they wouldn't be taken seriously but the fact that Yamada won a decisive victory for his seat in the House of Councillors was probably a huge shock to many.

TL;DR hentai industry would probably be more successful if censorship was removed and budgets were increased.

The cost of producing a well done hentai OVA series is probably the same budget as a single game's budget. Therefore wouldn't a Marina hentai OVA series sell better than a bland standalone game that isn't Marina related (and probably losing money on)?

Even if a hypothetical Marina hentai OVA was just as cheaply made as the average hentai OVA it would probably still sell well on brand recognition.
 
Sorry again but hopw do i stop the bing translation? otherwise i will be without megas rather fast T.T

I followed this video tutorial there explain in one part how to change the extensions there you can change the translator you want the only bad thing that there are only two translation options bing and google I think you can not translate offline

here video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eecEOacF6mw
 
I followed this video tutorial there explain in one part how to change the extensions there you can change the translator you want the only bad thing that there are only two translation options bing and google I think you can not translate offline

here video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eecEOacF6mw

I found how to get the extensions off on my own, but will still see it since there are other things i could know (like how to et it BACK for when i do have internet lol), and yay it works so far aparently xD, and is ok i just need it to grab the text, i use TA with atlas and mecab/jparser to play due to my shitty internet.
 
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Couple pieces of news:

I somehow missed this but even if it's clearly a cash grab it's still something I'll check out.

I get the feeling Atelier Sakura has been in a rut the past couple years. Not too surprising they're bringing back arguably their most popular and best selling IP.

It would require a lot of extra effort but I've always wondered why they've never bothered to ask around any studios about the possibility of some hentai OVAs or setting up a new anime division/department of their own.

While most hentai OVAs currently (and for what feels like a decade now) are cheaply made and usually inferior to the manga or game they're based on, Atelier Sakura could show some initiative and create an anime hentai (like for the Marina series) with high production values; when was the last time a hentai OVA was released on Blu-ray in Japan?

Sorry if I'm breaking any forum rules discussing politics but I remember reading a while back there was a Japanese politician named Taro Yamada. An actual otaku who campaigned on the platform of anti-censorship for anime, manga and games. Who knows if any actual progress will be made but would be pretty amazing if somehow he manages to abolish those outdated laws of censoring (pixels) private parts in hentai. No average politician (with other goals) would make this issue a high priority; probably because they wouldn't be taken seriously but the fact that Yamada won a decisive victory for his seat in the House of Councillors was probably a huge shock to many.

TL;DR hentai industry would probably be more successful if censorship was removed and budgets were increased.

The cost of producing a well done hentai OVA series is probably the same budget as a single game's budget. Therefore wouldn't a Marina hentai OVA series sell better than a bland standalone game that isn't Marina related (and probably losing money on)?

Even if a hypothetical Marina hentai OVA was just as cheaply made as the average hentai OVA it would probably still sell well on brand recognition.

I read about the anti=censoring campaign. I think it will fail. If the various industries wanted it they could probably push it through but the groups who don't would push to get rid of certain things. Loli and Shota probably won't survive the decade, if they even manage to survive the Olympics.

Agree a Marina anime would be great, if done with a good budget. I wonder if crowd funding will take off in Japan, remember the ecchi Tsugomomo raised nearly $75k for its ecchi special. H games in the west regularly raise tens of thosands. Subverse raised £1.5m. It seems to me if they want they could produce these things with zero risk to a high standard.
 
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I kinda want to vote for Netori guy from Mariko. But which Netori guys from that list that give really strong NTR for protagonist?
 
So some thoughts on Atelier's announcement for new Marina game...

First off - what the heck is Fantia? The game was announced as being made with them, from what I can tell its a fan service for people or companies to follow? So then this "new" game with Fantia is basically Atelier's way of interacting with its fans...but isn't twitter that already? I mean the poll is on twitter not Fantia's website...

So is Fantia an actual company thats producing this game? I'm really not sure what their role is here..

Per the character poll I HOPE anybody BUT Hiroto wins, for two reasons. The story would be boring ASF - where is the risk? The fall from grace we've already seen them paired up so many times (almost each game) and honestly Hiroto is too nice to properly NTR or even netorase anymore. Plus Hiroto isn't a very interesting lover honestly now. Worse is we've already PLAYED the game where Marina agreed to netorase again (in 3) and guess who Kenji picked? Hiroto! Haven't we already played this game? LOL..

Isn't the idea of a new game to see her with a new guy? A new threat that could push Marina closer to true NTR?

Which brings me to my second issue - I like seeing artwork of Marina with a NEW partner, as each game did. Bringing something NEW to the table. Every lover, no matter how skilled, was a "different" lover for Marina to experience and produced a new type of NTR threat. Hiroto even if he has become a "better" lover is still the same lover and we already have SO much artwork featuring them together. More so it doesn't really even feel like NTR with him anymore, he's TOO much in the picture now. He's like part of their extended family. That in its very essence ruins him for me as a good candidate for NTR simply because he has been overused.

So my vote goes to anybody but him, and currently leading is the first character in the vote option 岡田一樹 so I guess him?

HOWEVER I'd actually love to see the very last guy in the poll #4 win (the business man) simply because we don't know much about him. He was only featured in one NTR game before and he feels dark, mysterious and don't know exactly what he brings to the table other then driving women "insane" frothing at the mouth with his sex power. That could be interesting. I'd rather he win tbh.

Now lets talk about the title of this game. Gone is netorase report, replaced with "Marina, embraced by another man in front of me!" - so I assume this means a few things have changed and firstly its no longer has reports. The title alone assumes that all the hentai action will take place with Kenji in the same room or nearby. This makes some sense, after the events of Marina 3 I could see where she could be like "if I do this you need to be there with me now, no more room for mistakes" although Marina could also have her own devious reasons? There is definitely a dark side to Marina, she lies A LOT. honestly I wasn't sure if half the stuff she said to different lovers was just stuff she said to make them all feel important. She clearly lied to Kenji to protect his feelings or because she liked having secrets in her netorase reports too.

The title itself, especially that ! - it implies surprise or shock. Its even stated in the tweet he is surprised Marina agrees to his request and with the title change overall, I feel this has a deeper meaning to it. She spent the better part of the entire series basically punishing Kenji for wanting it...so why suddenly agree to it?

Overall I'm not surprised they announced this new game, I'm more surprised in the way they announced it with Fantia (i keep thinking the soft drink lol) and what that means.

Also a question for you all, there seems to be this idea this game will be netori in tone, I assume because it involves another man but clearly the game is not netori. Although dropping the netorase from the title does imply it might be more in direct relation to NTR now and shocking twists?
 
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On a different note...are we not missing at least one new NTR game released this month? 巨乳人妻寝取られ催眠 ~シェアハウスで管理人と妻が…~

I noticed overall the releases this month have been very bare minimum, I wonder why...pls don't tell me the corovirus is effecting eroge releases!

Atelier newest game doesnt really fall under NTR in my opinion, unless its revealed that she has a boyfriend in another school and is using this single year to bang as many guys as possible before they get back together...even then thats pretty shallow ntr lol. Or heck he asked her too, still feels like an afterthought.
 
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So leading in the Marina poll for her "partner' is the first option. If the first guy in the poll wins, who has been featured with another wife and pushed her to sleep behind her husbands back with ANOTHER guy - then that could add some interesting ideas to my head that Marina could be lead into some unexpected situations or at the least the guy like to mess with peoples relationships. That would be interesting for sure, especially if its not just a straight forward, "i pick him" - ok, I slept with another guy. End game lol. I'd love to see some twists and turns this time around, I feel Marina series needs a real twist.

I'd really love for them to develop this game to be at least twice the length of their normal games and really bring all the characters back to tell a more complete story. Plus a longer game would mean more options and a deeper or story with more twists.

I'm also curious as this game is being made "with fans" if they will keep polling new questions...I have to admit if this work with Fantia means getting more fan feedback for new games that IS exciting!
 
TL;DR hentai industry would probably be more successful if censorship was removed and budgets were increased.
Blame Japanese conservative and USA hahah. But seriously, most law installed in Japan coming from USA after WWII.
I still confused why AS not interested with OVA . I know they will bastardize the story quality, but it will be good for promotions.

So some thoughts on Atelier's announcement for new Marina game...

First off - what the heck is Fantia? The game was announced as being made with them, from what I can tell its a fan service for people or companies to follow? So then this "new" game with Fantia is basically Atelier's way of interacting with its fans...but isn't twitter that already? I mean the poll is on twitter not Fantia's website...
FANTIA is DMM, i can't believe it you didn't know that.

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Yeah im kinda disappointed they only give four characters options, and even one of them is Hiroto! LOL. Why the hell Bob isn't in option. So i must pick Chief from Mariko as my vote. I like Hiroto, but i didn't want to him winning.
 
Marina's husband being in the room in all sex scenes probably means that there won't be Marina's pov.

That's a biiiiig let down, we know is gonna have a happy ending, so the only spicy thing would be Marina lying, but without her pov we won't see that...
 
Marina's husband being in the room in all sex scenes probably means that there won't be Marina's pov.

That's a biiiiig let down, we know is gonna have a happy ending, so the only spicy thing would be Marina lying, but without her pov we won't see that...

Nah, i disagree. It probably will not for ALL. only half part stories like Marina 2. I lobe Marina 2, but i hope they be more creative instead. Reharshing old games.

And all candidates (excluding Hiroto) are adult males and salaryman. I have feeling if one of them get selected, they will crossovering by make him as coworker or has working relationship with Kenji.

Damn Hiroto leading the poll. now. Please vote for Chief from Mariko. Iwant to see her with new guy.
 
FANTIA is DMM, i can't believe it you didn't know that.

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Yeah im kinda disappointed they only give four characters options, and even one of them is Hiroto! LOL. Why the hell Bob isn't in option. So i must pick Chief from Mariko as my vote. I like Hiroto, but i didn't want to him winning.

Well now I'm even more confused about FANTIA - if its DMM then I COULD see them producing the game as they've done in past with other companies but then they sell it exclusively as a DMM game - I don't think thats what this is. Can you sell games on Fantia? I'm still rather confused as to what their involvement is, they are officially linked (Fantia) in Ateliers twitter header now. So I assume its meant for more "fan" involvement? I dunno...

Per the options of voting I'm shocked more about the choices tbh, especially seeing Hiroto as again its meant to be a crossover...I'm curious overall how they came these choices and I assume it related to the overall story. Bring me to..

Marina's husband being in the room in all sex scenes probably means that there won't be Marina's pov.

That's a biiiiig let down, we know is gonna have a happy ending, so the only spicy thing would be Marina lying, but without her pov we won't see that...

So actually following my last line of thought and the title change of the game - I suspect there WILL be a NTR element to this game now. Something "has changed" and if I was to put two and two together, seeing Hiroto in the poll makes me think that Marina might actually leave or have an affair now true NTR style by the games end. Why? Because she had a pre-existing relationship with Hiroto and clearly liked him, so from a writers point of view adding him to the poll as one of the characters Marina seriously NTR's kenji bad ending and all, makes some sense because you could argue they already had a connection. So why would Marina leave Kenji? Because he asked for NTR again.

She spent SO much time trying to teach Kenji to drop this fantasy in different ways, then it got really nasty (in a bad way lol) by the end of the third game, to the point where he is surprised that she agrees to it again in this new game. So Marina might be of the mindset that Kenji will always have this fantasy and she can't be with him anymore, enter the other guy she falls for. Hence why Hiroto being on the poll might be a clue to the direction of the new game. HOWEVER I'd still love to see anybody but him win, honestly Hiroto was never going to get her or he would have now. He had his chance and I'd love to see a different guy really bring the NTR on or shake things up at the VERY least netorase style.

As for POV I believe we will still get Marina scenes, either in the gallery or in the second play through - whats changed it the type of netorase taking place and Marina's deeper motive.
 
Oh thats interesting, so I was checking the last Marina game released...er release date and it was May 2016, based on Atelier current time frame for games I wouldn't be surprised to see if they released this new game in May - which would make it literally 4 years to the day since the last Marina game/between releases. Yes its been FOUR years.

Damn...we are getting old!
 
WOW the 4th option is gaining traction - he's my vote!

If your voting, please vote for

[Poll option #4] Mitsuhiro Tanaka (the last option)

He literally is underused and we have no idea what crazy NTR he will bring to the table. To me he is the most exciting option because there is more mystery around the type of sex and NTR he will bring, plus there is little use of him in previous games so the new artwork will really be fresh.

All we know is he makes girls lose it when they have sex with him, like froth at the mouth stay away from him. Plus he was in the angel game, where people were forced to fuck other people while being NTR themselves - so he's slightly damaged lol. If written properly he could be real fun and unexpected for the new Marina game.
 
I voted for the first option that is the boss of Mariko even though I am satisfied that it is not Nakamura who wins