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  • Still, it's not about using it. EN is useless against Aishas unless they are out of MP. You should trick them into believing that you'll use Taser. That's their fear. So just moving towards them should strike fear into most Aishas since the activation time and shot speed is quick as hell. So if you can chase an Aisha until she runs out of MP it will basically be your win unless you fuck it up so that the Aisha gets a melee combo on you to get MP. She should barely be able to throw fireballs as well.
    It would still be a fair trade of 100 MP for 100 MP. And EN will continue when she's knocked down so if you knock her down with melee you have to either attack her from behind or else you'll get hit by the EN if you're in front of her.

    Combos are fun, using skills to wipe out the screen is boring. Sure, you feel yourself overpowered, but still. At least that's my opinion about dungeons.

    CN "basic" combo would be zzzvz zzzvz zzzvz and so on while >>xz is at least a bit more advanced. I also heard that >>zxx or what it is doesn't knock down anymore so that could be used to change side if you're quick enough to continue the combo afterwards.

    Yeah, but waking up to the cold is awesome! I remember when it was cold as hell in my house and I get up at 6 am and sit barefoot in front of my computer when I don't have a working heater in my room :3
    /me bites second and flings him aside :runhappy:

    /me sets tomato traps~ :evillaugh:

    She touched it :shocked:

    Lol not very painful or maybe they were trying to suicide with earth methods but found that it didnt work =w=

    Hmm... i guess i sort of like baths... xD Though i used to avoid it until i actually got into the tub =w= Then it just felt comfortable to soak for a while~

    Ehh... i guess i did use it for quite a long time... xD Lol magical impersonating person x3

    Hehe~ x3 Most of them hold toy puppies though...~ Found this one with a wabbit~
    Rawrrrrr /me goes bites inori~ :objection:

    /me eats apple and chases :biker:

    Hmm how odd... /me hands it over to inori~

    Lol maybe? xD I dunno....

    Well... if they dont like baths... =w=

    Is it that different? xD
    Part 1...

    Still... EN also goes on while she's knocked down >_< As quick as your special active invincibility runs out you're basically hit by them. Your only bet is a long range special active and to actually manage to hit with it or a special active which got a long invincibility that still is active while you can move. But I don't know which characters who got that. A Teleport costs 6 MP each and Eve got quick dashes (quicker with CBS) so reaching the Aisha's location should go extremely quick and therefore she would have to do a Teleport again immediatly after. So if you can keep the pressure on the Aisha she can probably run out of MP pretty quickly. When the EM gets her Meditate you'll have bigger problems with Teleport spam since she would start with 250 MP instead of only 50 MP...

    CBS got long range skills that stuns/hitstun you and that is an extremely good thing to abuse in PvP. I'm not saying that she's bad in dungeons. I'm saying that CBS is more safe in PvP and better in that way since she only have to focus on staying away and hitting with her long range skills to actually start a combo. She doesn't even have to risk going close range unless she's in desperate need of MP. She also got the MP regen active skill which drains a bit of your HP. The note gives it a 30% chance to get the MP for free. I find it strange though that I kinda never see an Eve who use it that actually lose HP from it so that 30% chance is apparently pretty high I guess? Or else they're just lucky. CBS is obviously better with all 8 slots while CN would do better with only 4 slots mainly because CBS rely on many skills to succeed while CN doesn't need many skills at all. A good CN could manage with only Spear Burst and Atomic Blaster since most of her damage comes from the actual combo and not the skills compared to a CBS.
    Part 2...

    QT is only good in dungeons. Or actually... change "good" to "insane". Atomic Blaster is only good in PvP though since Hornet Sting would be a better 100 MP for PvE and I also love how she says the name of the skill :3 A CN could use QT in PvP since it got extended range and since Eve can dash quicker than characters can run away she probably has a huge advantage if she can get the enemy into a combo because of the 3x more damage. But it's too risky in PvP so that's why people even prefer Junk Break instead of QT in PvP since Junk Break got a HUGE chance to get full hits if not always get full hits as long as you connect with the skill.

    Yeah, I was really sleepy yesterday :/
    Cold is kinda fun though. Cold is better than when it's hot since you actually can sleep :3 You also get the awesome feeling when you cuddle down into your bed :3
    Mehs youre making meh sound olddddd D:

    /me grows some fins and flies after you~ :runhappy:

    /me tries cooking apple with beams~~

    Lol ehh only when going up and down maybe?... xD Some other stuff might be faster~

    Of course they would run then ;p

    Ehh i never changed frequently to start with xD Only when someone was shoving new avis at meh every so often xD
    Still, EN lasts longer than most if not all 100 MP special active skill invincibility frames so it kinda won't work if you only do 1 special active. And trading a 200 MP skill for a 100 MP skill isn't worth it since you can just mana break for 100 MP instead... But that would make it a fair trade for the CBS anyways so that wouldn't change much...
    The more you use Teleport the more MP you will waste. A CBS Taser is as instant as a CEms Spitfire. So the Aisha have to expect the Taser so she should Teleport everytime the CBS dash towards her and that will drain ton of her MP. Unless the Aisha can learn how the CBS act during the battle she could expect the Taser pretty often and be correct with her expectation. That's the only chance to be sure to dodge it without dodging 24/7. I've seen CBS in dungeons. That's enough to get depressed -.-

    QT is the only skill a CN needs to become the "ultimate dungeons raper". And yes, the "raper" part fits there so well because she gets 3x more damage with her drone attacks, additional range and also penetrate mobs with shields. Also does ton of damage against bosses and she will gain enough MP to use it again when it turns off. Imagine an endless killing machine. I've played a CN myself and relied on QT in dungeons. I could use a QT in every room because of the MP I got back from killing mobs. MP potions also got a 30 sec cd so you can use one of those if you somehow doesn't get up to 250 MP again *cough* low lvl dungeons *cough*

    And yes, I slept well :3 How about you?
    Hmm... not by that much? xD Or well about a year is it?

    /me chases inori with oddly shaped tomatoes :runhappy:

    /me wonders as well :reallyconfused:

    Lol a floating river... well theres still gravity though ;p Perhaps the water might shoot higher when hitting ramps and fall slower... =w=

    Lol so... its all running whenever you get close? xD Or just trying to get them into the bath?

    Hmm... well i used to say ill change once a month but then i got lazy and mehs =w=
    *cough* QT *cough* PvP my ass. Also "just some special actives"... you do know that if an enemy have enough MP for about 2-3 special actives the CBS will have enough MP for 2 or 3 EN, right? The only chance you have against EN is "RUN, RUN, RUN!" because if you don't you will obviously get hit. EN doesn't stop when CBS takes damage you know, it will continue until it turns off. You also haven't played CBS yet unless you played her on NA so you can't say anything about that yet. You will be amazed at how often a Taser with the split field can hit it's target. 3 Tasers is pretty hard to dodge so good luck with that. A normal Taser can be dodged, but how often do you even see it coming? Play her first before you say that it's so easy to dodge. Or at least meet one in PvP... I haven't even dared to go PvP with my VP because I see CBS everywhere on NA. I even got a group to a dungeon with 3 CBS... Like hell that I'll waste my first 10 matches on losing to a cowardly stunlocker.

    I'm off to sleep so you'll get an answer tomorrow. See ya and sleep well :bye:
    It's not about winning or losing. It's how they play. They bait the enemy into a Taser and then start a combo. That's all I need to know. Ever heard of Impact Hammer? Taser is a long range version of it and that explains alot. CN got more damage during combos, but how many CBS actually try to deal damage during a combo? They spam >>zz only to get MP so they can spam more Taser/EN and start more combos. They don't even want damage. CN is basically a CEl but even worse at starting combos since CEl even had the ability to multiply her electro balls by 3 to increase the chance of hitting and then starting a combo. CBS can probably also do shitload of damage in combos, especially if they use EN and I also think that Taser can KD reset if you do it right because I think it will KD reset if you reach the KD point while the enemy is stunned. It's all about timing to do that though. But a good CBS should be able to do it quite often but probably not all the time. I think that's why DW can KD reset with Impact Hammer. Therefore we reach the point of mana break or die since you'll be locked in a combo forever if you're unlucky. Damage doesn't matter much if you can do an infinite combo :/
    You can complain about that CN will be better than CBS after the skill tree revamp since Taser won't be able to KD reset after that. Then CN obviously will be more important because of the damage in a single combo. And will probably be better as long as she can reach you. On the other hand we're talking about Eve here. So CN have an easier time to reach you than other classes so a CN vs a CBS would be a bad match for the CBS. But if you go with comparison as a CBS vs RS (for example) and a CN vs RS the CBS will probably do better because of her ability to avoid the opponent with her dashes. You will have trouble with EM though since she can reflect both Taser and EN with her Statue... if she will be quick enough to even summon one before Taser hits her in the face...
    Hmm, I would rather call them equal to CBS though :/

    Still, doesn't Eve usually try to dash around her opponent and trick them? That's her gimmick and she should use it properly. Not just dash into their face and risk being stuck in a combo :/
    I don't get why CN would be that much better than CBS though. CN has the same chance of making a combo as CBS except that she doesn't have Taser or EN to help her with that. I would say that CBS have an easier time to start a combo. I've played CN and she doesn't have many long range combo starters. She got spear Burst but that's a melee one which also can be used in the air. I would still say that CBS and CN are equal at starting combos. But EN and Taser gives CBS a bigger chance of succeeding and EN also increases CBS combo damage if she can catch with it and it can actually give 100 MP back to the CBS from spamming >>zz enough times after the EN catch. So as long as she hits with EN she could keep using it to initiate her opponent everytime. I don't get why CN should be so op. Sure, she might have more damage during combos but CBS shouldn't have the same damage since she has an easier time to start a combo. On videos I can see CBS who wreck shit, so I expect the gear and lvl to play a big role. But I would like to say that a CBS would win against a CN with the exactly same lvl/gear just because she got more long ranged stuff that can be used to initiate to opponent.
    Lol im only 20 =w= Not that old... i think... xD

    Lol i wonder...~ /me grows cube tomatoes and brings it over to inori~

    /me blasts random eye beams everywhere :desire:

    Well i mostly meant the composition of the rocks and fluids... =w=

    Didnt you just say they didnt run? O.o Were you trying to drag them into the bath or something? xD
    Hmm... then youre same as me xD I think thats uni then =w=

    Lol yeah when its not in tomato form~

    /me wonders and looks back more :goodtea:

    Ehh... Lol would be made quite differently from earth...~

    Hmm yesh quite x3 So much fun to mess with~
    Hmm... so what grade/year then? xD

    Well some people do eat it?... xD Dunno how they do it ;p

    Lol then a large not so dense planet~

    Hmm... the ones who just dont learn... x3
    The post was too long so this small part got left out.

    And if you really want I can probably tell you my opinions about EMs as well when the skill tree revamp comes out. I can also tell you my opinions about the skill tree as well... I like to tell you my opinions, I get to hear your opinions in exchange so it makes it kinda fun how different we can see stuff :goodtea:
    CBS still seems the one where you have to be focused the most when you face her. CBS got increase on her dash speed if I remember right so she kinda rely on dashing into your screen quicker than you can react and attack you. That or either do her long range stun and then dash up to you and start a combo. Dashing towards you and using EN will work as well. I've read that CBS is a fish since you have to bait her into a combo or else you won't be able to start up a combo on her at all and that also depends on how reckless the CBS are. They got Taser, EN and increased speed on their dashes and that pretty much tells me straight out that they're supposed to be defensive and surprise enemies instead of heading straight for them like CN for example. The most challenging with an Eve is her movement while the combos are >>zz and then repeat it until they knock down for the biggest ammount of MP gain. You can do more advanced combos but you'll probably not get much MP in that case. The more MP you get will be more EN after all.

    Sure, some classes are easier to play and some classes might even be better than CBS even though it doesn't feel like that for me right now. If you ask Quay he would probably say that CEm is the best Eve probably because of her combos and her ability to use Oberon Guard and the instant Spitfire which helps alot in PvP. I would say that CBS is like a DW except that CBS have an easier time to catch her opponents into a combo compared to a DW but the "mana break or die" part applies to them both. EM will become overpowered later when the skill tree revamp comes out but that won't really make me to play PvP anyways. I see Aisha as a character who juggles the enemy in the air and that doesn't work in PvP because of lag.
    Hmm... youre still in high school? Or your uni doesnt make you choose a major after you get half way through the normal stuff?

    The other people out there? D:

    Lol yeah... xD So i guess for us it would be easier to visit smaller planets~

    Hmm... do they start running whenever they see you now? :XD:
    O.o But dont you need the major while in school so you can learn the right stuff?

    You dont like then either D:

    Lol going to have quite a strain on them if they do... xD Theyll be strong but... perhaps not so sturdy in the long run...

    I guess..? xD So you forcefully clean them =w=
    Still, the 100 MP cost for EN is sad... If you hit one single time and manage to start a combo you can easily get 100 MP back from that unless the enemy wastes 100 MP to mana break. It's broken if you think about it in that way. The only good thing is that it have a limited range or else I would have been crying right now :sigh: Sure, some classes are probably better. But there's still skill involved in playing Eve because of the dashes and movement. I personally believe that a good Eve have a good chance of beating other players who are good at their classes.
    I found this for you, Shiri :3 Too bad that CBS isn't released in DE and UK yet for some unknown reason :sigh:

    Energy Needles, the new most dominating skill in the PvP world :< Also please explain how the ShG doesn't get knocked down at 1:20 and forward in this vid :/ Also look at the HP he lose during that combo lol

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd9XdzBtcNo

    I found another vid! Kinda like this uploader as well.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra2fipLh2dg

    He agrees with you :3 "~from 2nd worst character in the game to 5th best from a single class change"
    Hmm... how much longer do you have to decide? x3

    Lol well i dont like it either way =w=

    We probably would be able to... slowly... xD Then maybe fall over and get crushed into the ground after a few steps =w=

    Cats lick themselves to clean... xD
    Hmm, I actually want Dark ones as well for my DM. I'm getting annoyed now as well. Damn skill quest... Only got 12 out of 30 cores and I'm out of stamina :sigh: I had Light element for a while and it was pretty good since it allowed me to get full hits from Hell Stone ^^ I'm in dire need of Mana Steal. I got 14 SP just waiting to be used but I can choose between the passive that gives 5% of my physical attack to magical attack, Poison Cloud or Mana Steal. Only Mana Steal is good and I can't advance in my darn skill tree without it! :deadsad:

    Hmm, veggies doesn't taste good so I kinda agree with him there. Way to go, Sammie!
    Hmm, I would sell the Mystery ones in later lvls and buy the element I want :/

    Yeah, it's awesome :3

    Hmm, really? Kinda hard to eat veggies when it hurts though :/
    What does Sammie have to do with veggies? xD
    Oh btw, Shiri! I'm apparently lucky on NA! At least I was yesterday and probably not won't happen again, but still :/

    Look at this drop! I got it from the 3-5 boss and I wasn't even in a party :O I have a total of 12.26% attack speed and 19.54% movement ^^
    http://i.imgur.com/5PZlgzf.jpg?1

    I'm also happy since my throat doesn't hurt anymore :3
    Yup! And yeah it's cute :3 It's a squirrel! ^^

    Yeah, staying up to at least 4 AM is healthy :3 Maybe... kinda... actually not. But still!

    Also, Shiri! Never sell your precious El Shard (Mystery)! I've been asking people for about 1 and a half hours soon if anyone wanna sell one to me for 200k... They're apparently VERY important since not a damn living being have given me a "Yes" yet. There was one guy but he couldn't trade or send mails because of the restriction of newly created characters...
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