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Anime Sharing - Netorare General Discussion Thread

Thanks for taking the time to making them. I have a couple more questions though: How good is the masochist feeling? I get the MC becomes into a masochist that likes to be cheated on. Also, is he a "mute MC" like in the swapping game? I prefer if he is not.

I really like some scenes from the swapping game from the same developer, like the one in which the main netori guy using the main heroine to fuck the other wife in a swapping and then ends up fucking both wives. That scene was hot. I hope this game has scenes like that (long scenes with ton of CGs). What I didn't like about the swapping game was the whole swapping thing, I mean a cuck swapping with a cuck... that was disappointing for me.

This developer tends to add too many things to his games. I mean he is good, but he might be much better, if he just get rid of some things. In my opinion, it would be much better if there were just 3 or 4 netori guys and the game forces the player/MC choose between one of them in the second part. The game branching into different situations/fetishes according to which you choose, with one ending for every one of them.

Still I'm definitely playing this. A couple more questions though: This game is very long right? How many hours do you think it is without skipping anything? Also: How is the pacing between the gameplay and the NTR scenes? You mentioned that it was very bad in the second game, so I wonder how bad/good is in this one?

Thanks for your answers.

In terms of masochism, if we're talking the first MC then there are a few scenes where he shows masochistic tendencies but its nothing major and he's mostly just into NTR. The MC from the second game goes full masochist and his wife even calls him a masochistic cuck during a bunch of the late scenes (still sucks that there's only 13 scenes). Furthermore, both MCs talk so they aren't mute.
There aren't really any scenes that are specifically like the one where the netori dude uses the heroine to bang a heroine, but the netori dudes usually do whatever they want with the wife. The wife will also do stuff for the netori guys that she never does for the MC like anal and rimjobs. Furthermore there is a scene where the wife goes on a training trip with both her and the MC knowing she'll be sexually harassed there and the MC believes that's all that happened during the trip. In an extra scene we find out that the wife was serving as a member of some old dude's harem for three days straight. There's a bunch of other secrets she keeps from the MC but its clear that she doesn't do it out of bad will. There's also pretty long scenes like the one you talked about, with the second to last scene being a pretty long gangbang (which was possibly my favorite scene in the game) and the prince does have something similar.
I actually love the swapping in the swapping game. Netorase and swapping are my favorite parts of NTR, not that I don't like the rest. I do understand the cuck swapping thing to not exactly have the best scenes in the game but the relationship allowed for a bunch of fun scenes. I don't really mind Suzuya making the games the way he does since they're usually pretty different as a result. Personally it feels like his games are made for me but its true that they're pretty light-hearted and some endings leave a lot to be desired. That branching game idea does sound interesting and I wouldn't be surprised if Suzuya tries something similar given his tendency to make each game somewhat different from the last.

Playing the game without skipping while using a machine translator? around 7 to 8 hours. I skipped tiny bits so it took me 6 hours. Gameplay isn't difficult but its there. I ended up grinding in the beginning of the game because I wanted to buy everyone the best armor and weapons available. Noticed them becoming power creeped pretty fast and just skipped most of the late encounters. This ended up biting me in my ass in the final 2 boss fights. Its mostly ignorable but farming for 5 minutes at the end game should get you strong enough to beat the bosses. The actual pacing between the gameplay and NTR scenes isn't that bad. In fact, there's some scenes where you get tasks on the field and doing them gets one of the netori guys some time alone with Sera. I'd say its mostly well paced since there's a good amount of scenes. There may be a time or two when the story takes priority but its usually straight to NTR right after that.
That's all I can think of right now, hope the answers serve you well. Don't be afraid to keep the questions coming.
 
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In terms of masochism, if we're talking the first MC then there are a few scenes where he shows masochistic tendencies but its nothing major and he's mostly just into NTR. The MC from the second game goes full masochist and his wife even calls him a masochistic cuck during a bunch of the late scenes (still sucks that there's only 13 scenes). Furthermore, both MCs talk so they aren't mute.
There aren't really any scenes that are specifically like the one where the netori dude uses the heroine to bang a heroine, but the netori dudes usually do whatever they want with the wife. The wife will also do stuff for the netori guys that she never does for the MC like anal and rimjobs. Furthermore there is a scene where the wife goes on a training trip with both her and the MC knowing she'll be sexually harassed there and the MC believes that's all that happened during the trip. In an extra scene we find out that the wife was serving as a member of some old dude's harem for three days straight. There's a bunch of other secrets she keeps from the MC but its clear that she doesn't do it out of bad will. There's also pretty long scenes like the one you talked about, with the second to last scene being a pretty long gangbang (which was possibly my favorite scene in the game) and the prince does have something similar.
I actually love the swapping in the swapping game. Netorase and swapping are my favorite parts of NTR, not that I don't like the rest. I do understand the cuck swapping thing to not exactly have the best scenes in the game but the relationship allowed for a bunch of fun scenes. I don't really mind Suzuya making the games the way he does since they're usually pretty different as a result. Personally it feels like his games are made for me but its true that they're pretty light-hearted and some endings leave a lot to be desired. That branching game idea does sound interesting and I wouldn't be surprised if Suzuya tries something similar given his tendency to make each game somewhat different from the last.

Playing the game without skipping while using a machine translator? around 7 to 8 hours. I skipped tiny bits so it took me 6 hours. Gameplay isn't difficult but its there. I ended up grinding in the beginning of the game because I wanted to buy everyone the best armor and weapons available. Noticed them becoming power creeped pretty fast and just skipped most of the late encounters. This ended up biting me in my ass in the final 2 boss fights. Its mostly ignorable but farming for 5 minutes at the end game should get you strong enough to beat the bosses. The actual pacing between the gameplay and NTR scenes isn't that bad. In fact, there's some scenes where you get tasks on the field and doing them gets one of the netori guys some time alone with Sera. I'd say its mostly well paced since there's a good amount of scenes. There may be a time or two when the story takes priority but its usually straight to NTR right after that.
That's all I can think of right now, hope the answers serve you well. Don't be afraid to keep the questions coming.

Thanks a lot for your answers and your patience. I don't mind they being light hearted, my favorite NTR game is kind of like that. Toaru Hahaoya 1 and 2 are, as I see them, some kind of lighearted Rom-Com with strong NTR and a mystery Netorase part. I don't know if you have play them, but I see them like this: Your typical strong willed tsundere heroine along with your typical lazy but with potential rich hero that the heroine hates at the beginning, both of them out of your typical Shoujo Rom-Com but with a twist: Instead of them being teenagers in highschool, make the girl 10 years older, married and with a son. Then make the hero 10 years younger, ugly and horny. Now put them together in a NTR VN and see what happens. Toaru Hitozuma 2 shares a similar setting, but with the netori guy being much older instead. The later actually has a very sweet true ending (in the bonus scenario). I think it takes a lot of skill to make a light hearted game that still holds strong NTR and I personally like that kind of thing, because it's refreshing.

I think Suzuya is a good developer. This is just my personal preference but I like it more when developers focus on a few things and explore them heavily rather than focusing on a lot of different things putting a little bit of everything on their works. I rather prefer 2 or 3 fetishes with 10 scenes each rather than 10 fetishes with 2 or 3 scenes each. That's why I don't like when there are too many netori guys or a lot of different fetishes packed into a single game. But that's just my preference and one of the reasons I asked all those questions.

Finally I prefer to start playing a game that is not my cup of tea, but is made from a good developer (like Suzuya), fully knowing what to expect. That way I will be knowing what I'm getting into and it won't betray my expectations. That's also why I asked so many questions.

Thanks a lot for your answers. I will be publishing my thoughts of the game once I finish it. It may take a while though, as I won't have many chances to "enjoy it" in the next days, since I'm back at my family's house for the holidays. I might play it when I'm back at my apartment (that's one of the few things that sucks about holidays for me LOL).
 
I played 媚肉の香り~ネトリネトラレヤリヤラレ~ for the second time...I saw it from someone's list a few pages back. I remember why I deleted the game from the HD.

I'm not happy with the progression of the story at all. The NTR in this game doesn't seem to be that strong at all. I wish ELF had more scenes with Yuki (your girlfriend) and not the other 4 characters in the household.

The NTR progression for Yuki has 1 scene with the Dad, and then I believe she breaks up with you (?) and then just has sex with strange men in like 4 scenes. Not very compelling if she broke up with you...Why is this rated so highly in VNDB? I like the system with the house and movement (sooo much potential for some good NTR). But ELF didn't really seem to use it for full potential.

Thoughts?
 
Thanks a lot for your answers and your patience. I don't mind they being light hearted, my favorite NTR game is kind of like that. Toaru Hahaoya 1 and 2 are, as I see them, some kind of lighearted Rom-Com with strong NTR and a mystery Netorase part. I don't know if you have play them, but I see them like this: Your typical strong willed tsundere heroine along with your typical lazy but with potential rich hero that the heroine hates at the beginning, both of them out of your typical Shoujo Rom-Com but with a twist: Instead of them being teenagers in highschool, make the girl 10 years older, married and with a son. Then make the hero 10 years younger, ugly and horny. Now put them together in a NTR VN and see what happens. Toaru Hitozuma 2 shares a similar setting, but with the netori guy being much older instead. The later actually has a very sweet true ending (in the bonus scenario). I think it takes a lot of skill to make a light hearted game that still holds strong NTR and I personally like that kind of thing, because it's refreshing.

I think Suzuya is a good developer. This is just my personal preference but I like it more when developers focus on a few things and explore them heavily rather than focusing on a lot of different things putting a little bit of everything on their works. I rather prefer 2 or 3 fetishes with 10 scenes each rather than 10 fetishes with 2 or 3 scenes each. That's why I don't like when there are too many netori guys or a lot of different fetishes packed into a single game. But that's just my preference and one of the reasons I asked all those questions.

Finally I prefer to start playing a game that is not my cup of tea, but is made from a good developer (like Suzuya), fully knowing what to expect. That way I will be knowing what I'm getting into and it won't betray my expectations. That's also why I asked so many questions.

Thanks a lot for your answers. I will be publishing my thoughts of the game once I finish it. It may take a while though, as I won't have many chances to "enjoy it" in the next days, since I'm back at my family's house for the holidays. I might play it when I'm back at my apartment (that's one of the few things that sucks about holidays for me LOL).

I've heard of those two NTR games. They get mentioned quite a lot on this thread along with their developer. From what I've heard its not really my kind of NTR since I like to play from the perspective of the MC who's already in a sexual relationship getting NTR'd. I like the MC seeing a different side of the heroine getting banged by someone else and the mystery of what she's doing is my favorite part, especially in netorase. Suzuya does it pretty well since even though the MC and heroine are in pretty tight relationships, the heroines sometimes get revealed to omit the kinkier stuff of what they've done which really brings into question how faithful they are and to what extent they're cheating behind the MC's back. In the case of the two NTR games, I hear you play as the mother's kid, the mother and the netori dude (correct me if I'm wrong on any of these) and there can't be much comparison when the MC is a literal kid who hasn't fucked said mother. Its for that reason I actually liked Anim's shota swapping game since both shotas got to bang both mothers and in the bad ends, the netori shota was clearly better at sex. I hate the endings when the MC gets both women though since it kinda breaks the immersion of the bad endings since both moms say the MC is better at sex. After all that I've said though, I'm still planning to play the two games eventually, they're just waiting in line while I try out other new NTR games.
In my case with the latest Suzuya game, my gripe isn't that there's too mant netori guys. Its that it feels like there isn't a clear netori guy. I did give my opinions on who I thought he was, but that's just my own conclusions. When the king came in and started to bang the wife I thought I knew what note the game was going to end on, and it did. Then the game suddenly continues and shows that the other netori guys are still relevant and while it does lead to my favorite scene in the game, it does make the king feel like less of a threat in taking the MC's wife considering that she's being lent out to 3 other dudes who're all good at sex.
To be honest, I kinda wish that Suzuya would let the heroine get truly NTR'd like in his second game (though the MC got his wife back in that one) but with the MC having a NTR fetish. He came pretty close in the first game which is the reason I like the first game's NTR the most. MC lends wife out to the king so that she may bear his child and the MC peeks on them through a surveillance device. He finds his wife serving the king in more ways than she should as instead of normal babymaking sex she's blowing him, getting anal and cosplaying for him. In the end she does get pregnant with the king's kid (twice since the first was a girl) and the MC gets a NTR fetish. There's an extra story for the game where its shown that the MC is still together with his wife but ending of said story shows said king banging the wife alongside a new addition. That coupled with the wife's responses to the king and what she's willing to do for him makes you really question if she likes the king more than the husband. Recent Suzuya games just don't do any stories like that as while the wives definitely love sex and cheat, their love for their husbands is pretty unquestionable.

Anyways, thanks for the civilized NTR talk. Hope the game goes well for you.
 
Can anyone who can read Japanese provide me a summary of this : https://e-hentai.org/g/1534578/a62ed17d94/ I want to know what is the relationship between the student and teacher. Oh, and P Herb is one of the best new materials I discovered so this made me happy.

Check the old gallery, i think a comment mentioned it.

MERRY CHRISTMASS!!!!!
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I probably won't be able to fap or see hentai in the next few days, the sad part of christmass xD
 
Merry Christmas guys, finally played and finished 春を売る騎士に恋をした青年は、性癖をこじらせる and ネトクエ~ボク達夫婦と悪魔の寝取らせ契約~

Good story but I really wish these games were longer, it's really amazing how good these small RPG's are despite having less funding so much so that I always buy from them to support their good work. Highly excited for Avantgarde's new game possibly next year!


Anyone know similar sort of Netorase/femdom-ish game where the MC has an NTR fetish and the wife teases him while having sex with others coming out next year?
 
Merry Christmas guys, finally played and finished 春を売る騎士に恋をした青年は、性癖をこじらせる and ネトクエ~ボク達夫婦と悪魔の寝取らせ契約~

Good story but I really wish these games were longer, it's really amazing how good these small RPG's are despite having less funding so much so that I always buy from them to support their good work. Highly excited for Avantgarde's new game possibly next year!


Anyone know similar sort of Netorase/femdom-ish game where the MC has an NTR fetish and the wife teases him while having sex with others coming out next year?

not next year- but as for something that's already out. You should really try NT:Rippers game- Their one and only game- the circle just disappeared after it was updating once(extra scenes added if you find the latest version) It's a hidden gem- went largely unnoticed because it's a new circle and no one was looking forward to it- but it's actually a really well made multi-end story- It's an RPG maker but there is barely any fights and theres items at the start that let you just oneshot every fight of which theres only about 3 in the game. Definitely worth trying- even if the art isn't great- the dialogue and plot and teasing really makes up for it.
 
not next year- but as for something that's already out. You should really try NT:Rippers game- Their one and only game- the circle just disappeared after it was updating once(extra scenes added if you find the latest version) It's a hidden gem- went largely unnoticed because it's a new circle and no one was looking forward to it- but it's actually a really well made multi-end story- It's an RPG maker but there is barely any fights and theres items at the start that let you just oneshot every fight of which theres only about 3 in the game. Definitely worth trying- even if the art isn't great- the dialogue and plot and teasing really makes up for it.

I played that unfortunate that they went MIA the game was really good. There was some nice teasing in it, and honestly, I really wouldn't have considered buying it because the cover art didn't scream good netorase to me but lucky there were good reviews by some other players because while the art was pretty average, really made up for it in the netorase lines and femdom humiliation from the wife though!
 
Looks like the old link was deleted but I just use the English dl site so I good.

And the lack of holiday cheer in my house must have effected my manners but MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE. Seriously I hope yall having a great holiday.
 
I just realized that so far there is literally no hentai adaptation from Anim Team MM game. I wonder why this is not happening yet.
 
Been playing the latest Suzuya game and I'm finally in the free-action phase.

Impressions until now:
- Good game, better execution than Ruby & Claude
- However, I don't really find it to be very erotic/thrilling
- Swapping title remains their strongest
- I preferred playing "For the Kingdom..." years ago, as well, despite its limited plot

Too many male characters / don't find the prostitution angle arousing, I guess.


This has been a down year in terms of how many NTR games I've played but of the ones I have, I'm still edging 2019 RPG-type personal GOTY to "Kubel's Pillory".


Can anyone who can read Japanese provide me a summary of this : https://e-hentai.org/g/1534578/a62ed17d94/ I want to know what is the relationship between the student and teacher. Oh, and P Herb is one of the best new materials I discovered so this made me happy.
I'm pretty sure I've read a few sentences before on Ex, but I don't see it...wonder if the user got deleted?

IIRC but don't this as 100% factual, it's just a 1-sided romance and the video at the end is him stumbling across it versus being intentionally shown like the last scene in "Toozakaru Kimi Koko ni iru Boku" (childhood friend).

For the record, the childhood friend was my favorite with this teacher being a close second. I'm still amazed we have 2 [!!] P-Herb works translated. Never thought I'd see the day...it takes a lot more work to edit CG.

I played that unfortunate that they went MIA the game was really good. There was some nice teasing in it, and honestly, I really wouldn't have considered buying it because the cover art didn't scream good netorase to me but lucky there were good reviews by some other players because while the art was pretty average, really made up for it in the netorase lines and femdom humiliation from the wife though!

Have you played "NTR Bar Phyllis"? It's basically a superior version of Inn My Life: https://www.dlsite.com/ecchi-eng/work/=/product_id/RE236374.html

NT:Ripper was amazing for humiliation, while Phyllis is a "cuckolding report" type of game with maybe a few scenes where the wife teases the husband (it's been a long time since I played the game, there's 1 at the ending but I don't remember much else dialogue wise).

If you like netorase, you definitely have to play it. Some bonuses are: wife gets lewdly grabbed and has sex in front of the husband, and the other male is her ex-boyfriend.


A more recent game, traditional ADV/VN, is Atelier Sakura's "Gyaruzuma Sex - Hoka no Otoko ni Inwai Houshi Suru Ai Suru Tsuma": https://vndb.org/v26397

If you haven't played it yet, I strongly recommend it (and don't skip text). Has the same cookie-cutter pattern that all Atelier games do, but it has nice teasing by the wife. Loved the characters.


There's a bunch of games I can think of where there is at least 1-2 scenes (multiple examples exist, but Gyakuten Majo Saiban games by Erectlip to list at least 1), but hard to find ones with that as 1 of the core premises.
 
Been playing the latest Suzuya game and I'm finally in the free-action phase.

Impressions until now:
- Good game, better execution than Ruby & Claude
- However, I don't really find it to be very erotic/thrilling
- Swapping title remains their strongest
- I preferred playing "For the Kingdom..." years ago, as well, despite its limited plot

Too many male characters / don't find the prostitution angle arousing, I guess.


This has been a down year in terms of how many NTR games I've played but of the ones I have, I'm still edging 2019 RPG-type personal GOTY to "Kubel's Pillory".



I'm pretty sure I've read a few sentences before on Ex, but I don't see it...wonder if the user got deleted?

IIRC but don't this as 100% factual, it's just a 1-sided romance and the video at the end is him stumbling across it versus being intentionally shown like the last scene in "Toozakaru Kimi Koko ni iru Boku" (childhood friend).

For the record, the childhood friend was my favorite with this teacher being a close second. I'm still amazed we have 2 [!!] P-Herb works translated. Never thought I'd see the day...it takes a lot more work to edit CG.



Have you played "NTR Bar Phyllis"? It's basically a superior version of Inn My Life: https://www.dlsite.com/ecchi-eng/work/=/product_id/RE236374.html

NT:Ripper was amazing for humiliation, while Phyllis is a "cuckolding report" type of game with maybe a few scenes where the wife teases the husband (it's been a long time since I played the game, there's 1 at the ending but I don't remember much else dialogue wise).

If you like netorase, you definitely have to play it. Some bonuses are: wife gets lewdly grabbed and has sex in front of the husband, and the other male is her ex-boyfriend.


A more recent game, traditional ADV/VN, is Atelier Sakura's "Gyaruzuma Sex - Hoka no Otoko ni Inwai Houshi Suru Ai Suru Tsuma": https://vndb.org/v26397

If you haven't played it yet, I strongly recommend it (and don't skip text). Has the same cookie-cutter pattern that all Atelier games do, but it has nice teasing by the wife. Loved the characters.


There's a bunch of games I can think of where there is at least 1-2 scenes (multiple examples exist, but Gyakuten Majo Saiban games by Erectlip to list at least 1), but hard to find ones with that as 1 of the core premises.

Seems like we've been playing the exact same games. Even NTR Bar Phyllis and I've never heard anyone even mention the game. Glad to know there's another individual with such fine tastes.
 
Thinking of playing ママンズクエスト, anyone have a link for it? It looks like an incest type NTR which I don't normally consider NTR but it has netorase elements somewhat
 
https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ273487.html another RPG with the NTR tag out of nowhere.. Relatively new circle- art isn't bad though- 1-2 hour game.

Wonder if it'll be shared around- or find its way to DMM where I could buy it. Well- if anyone plays it.. give us a review of the NTR in it- sounds like it's just on-defeat rape which isn't really NTR at all(guess that also depends on perspective- the hero is male- meets girl in journey). Interested to know if it goes beyond that.

Edit: Looks like Velka grabbed it- Many thanks!..
 
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I just realized that so far there is literally no hentai adaptation from Anim Team MM game. I wonder why this is not happening yet.

Are you referring to their new ANIMovie game? http://www.hs-crowd.co.jp/anim/product/pro_pc2/pcl020/index.html

Because I'm wondering as well. Maybe because it's all animated it can't be ripped? Now that I think of it, the whole ANIMovie brand seems confusing. I mean they already had animated cg in their prior games, and the samples just look like the animated cg they've already had in the past. I also assume its not full OVA either? Regardless, if it eventually does get ripped what category will it fall if its lands on this site - CG packs or OVA? lol
 
shindol's new work (C97) is NTR
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Multi-generation NTR? You are cucked, have a child - daughter cucks somwone, son is cucked. And so on.
Except Raizen7 PUK and Crusader Kings 2 ?
 
Hmmm...so I've been going through a massive backlog of eroge games the last few days, many of which are not NTR but have elements where girls are having sex with men who aren't their boyfriends for various reasons, sometimes its magical tentacle thing sometimes is classroom sex orgies whatever. Heck even hypno games or where you "stop time". A LOT of these are AAA? visual novels made by some of the larger companies out there.

So long story short, I've found a lot of these games lack consquense after sex happens. Sometimes it happens as a "bad ending" but overall ok lets take the incredibly popular Alicesoft games like Haruka where she can be raped or shared depending on different options. As is with a lot of games like this, we see the scene then move onto next part of the game. I have to say its incredibly frustrating that characters never look back on this, like using Haruka as example she can fuck a dog in one situation - but thats never mentioned out of that scene. HOW THE HELL you would you forget you just got fucked by a dog or saw it happen? Its like that was yesterday and today is a new day, everything is forgotten.

Heck even in NTR games I find its always pushing towards the "next" scene rather then exploring the consquences of what JUST happened. Did your boss just fuck your wife? Oh and she DID happen to apologize? - thats rare but then its like it NEVER happened by the next day.

I find this very odd not just for ntr games but non nrt games where they don't seem to explore the effects and consquences of stuff that happened to them. The best we can get from NTR is seeing a girl literally change her appearance over the game for NTR reasons - but I think I can count 5 games out of 100 thats happened.

So this isn't just a rant - this is a question, is there something in Japanese culture where they don't focus on the past or exploring its effects on present? Especially from a narrative point of view? Like is it bad to look back at the past or talk about it in Japanese culture?
 
Has anyone here ever played 私の知らない妻の貌 and found a strange error on option menu that makes you unable to switch options? The game works but in every voice you have to listen to the end to be able to skip and I can not change it because of the error in the options.

here is the error.

Sorry i can't post liks yet.

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Has anyone here ever played 私の知らない妻の貌 and found a strange error on option menu that makes you unable to switch options? The game works but in every voice you have to listen to the end to be able to skip and I can not change it because of the error in the options.

I played this a long time ago- Definitely didn't have an error like that. You can't turn voices off either?
Strange.
 
I played this a long time ago- Definitely didn't have an error like that. You can't turn voices off either?
Strange.
I can not, if I touch something in the options menu it will be giving the error message over and over and the only solution is to closing the game with task manager, i tried using locale emulator but with no results. maybe it doesn't work right with windows 10? I've played a lot of old novels and it's the first time I've encountered this error, well, I'll try to play anyway to see if i got hooked by the story.