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Tragic or Happy Ends in Otome—Which Team Are You On?

I don't like stories that just crank up the tragedy for maximum impact and
make all the buildup feel forced and overly heroic.
But I do like tragedies that grow naturally out of the characters choices and circumstances,
with the causes and consequences carefully shown.

I also don't like it when the story clearly sets up deep, hard-to-resolve emotional issues for the characters,
only to magically fix everything at lightning speed in the second half just to reach HE.

And honestly, I'm not that into endings where "they get married" automatically equals a HE.
I'd really like to see more endings that show different kinds of emotional states and relationships instead.
 
Team Happy Ends 💖
I love emotional pain during the route, but after everything the characters go through, I need that payoff where they finally get peace, love, and a future together. Tragic ends can be beautifully written, but I can't leave an otome feeling hollow—I want hope at the end.
 
Team bit of both.

Like I do love the tragedies, especially when it that kinda of bittersweet, cause then I end up bawling and saying why didn't they end up together
I also don't like it when the story clearly sets up deep, hard-to-resolve emotional issues for the characters,
only to magically fix everything at lightning speed in the second half just to reach HE.

And honestly, I'm not that into endings where "they get married" automatically equals a HE.
I'd really like to see more endings that show different kinds of emotional states and relationships instead.

I humbly agree, I get frustrated when the HE comes out of nowhere, there's no actual closure, it like you thought of all these great idea but forgot how to end it, and just say well they live happily ever after.
 
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I think both should exist, but I will always prefer tragedies ( ᴗ ̫ ᴗ ) ♡

It hurts. It always hurts. It will always hurt. But my heart remembers tragedies much better than happy endings. The soul crushing pain of a tragic ending is much more impactful in my personal opinion!
 
For me happy endings all the way. Tragic endings are nice to have if they add onto the plot or dive deeper into what ifs. I don't necessarily like the short bad ends that occur when you make a wrong choice. Otherwise, otome games for me is like a nice fiction to read just with added sprites, music, and voice so I hope to always see a happy ending no matter how dark of a setting it is.
 
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I can tolerate a tragic ending if it isn't the only route possible in the otome but I play otome game to achieve happy ending. However I like tragic backstory, and tragic story.
 
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I think both? It depends on what the rest of the route and game is like and how I interpret it. For example, I think Yang's good ending (not to be confused with the "best" ending, there IS a difference in this game lmao) in Piofiore Fated Memories was more fitting with the rest of the route, even though it ended in tragedy and the best ending leads to the masterpiece that is his Burlone Route in 1926🛐 But in a route like Victor's in Code:Realize... nope, nope. I'd trade the good ending for nothing.
 
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I thought I was a resident of happy ending land, but then I played Club Suicide and actually preferred some of the bad endings. It was a first for me, so I'm actually looking for other bad endings I might like.
 
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I only go through tragic endings if the happy one doesn't suit me for some reason :unsure: This usually happens when LI irritates me so much that I want to see him unhappy
 
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i like to play the bad endings as well, but i prefer the happy endings more!!

i like seeing the what-ifs in bad endings, and seeing the angst & tragedy they go through. but i definitely love happy endings, especially when they become more domestic with each other.
 
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I like both happy and tragic ends and think they're both important (although by happy end, I moreso mean the endings that are portrayed as the more "good" and complete or fulfilling ones, even if not 100% happy). In fact, sometimes it can feel incomplete without both (though of course happier ends do seem like the standard requirement at least for a feeling of fulfilment and to tie up loose ends in a story, so at the very least I think it should have that unless the whole thing is meant to be a tragedy) as they contribute to the overall narrative when taken together and seeing how the themes are interacted with in both.

Usually the tragic end shows what happens when the main theme or message isn't followed or is opposed, or otherwise offers a different perspective that enriches the overall story or theme (and the happy end through juxtaposition). I think the best tragic ends are those that directly enhance the happy end, providing both extra insight, a feeling of reward and a fuller exploration of the themes of the happy end. I guess if I had to pick one that's probably more important for a story overall to me, happier endings (as in not completely tragic) tend to feel more complete and satisfying and heartfelt, which not all media wants to achieve (which is fine), but it usually just feels like there's overall more heart and a feeling of catharsis (although I like full tragedies too and sometimes think that's the right choice for certain stories).

But when it comes to happy endings, I like when it feels earned, so there's sufficient struggle and suffering along the way in order to make the happiness actually feel cathartic and deserved, for the light to shine that much brighter. If it's just fluff the whole time with not much conflict, it feels unfulfilling and unearned, and I end up not really feeling happy and instead just empty. It's like, how can there be comfort in hurt/comfort without the hurt lmao. But yeah, without something to overcome, it just feels emotionally unfulfilling and instead just this feeling of lukewarm stasis. Happy ends also don't need to necessarily have a super joyful feeling to them? As long as there's at least this overall growth or feeling of contentment despite all that was potentially lost. Things aren't perfect but there's still a gentle warmth there, and the themes are resolved in way that overall feels kind.

Likewise, I don't like when tragic endings just come out of nowhere, like random death endings that make no sense and are just there to be shocking or something. I think just as much effort (as happy endings) should be put into tragic endings to make them feel like actual legitimate endings that are just as fleshed out, even though they're clearly telegraphed as the "bad ending" (bad endings, or endings seemingly intended to be taken that way, can provide just as much insight, at least into the writer's intended message). I feel like if nothing else, it would enhance the themes of the happy ending as stated before and refine the message the writer wants to send by showing the consequences of both sides.

So I would prefer if the tragic ends weren't just "random bad thing happens" just to check a box of having a bad ending. It should be just as meaningful and add something, say something about the overall story. And be something that stems from logical actions and events in the story, where you can understand why and how it diverged from the path to the happy end (instead of just having random bad things happen, as stated). I of course like having my heart ripped out and trampled on, but I would rather not have it be overly gratuitous where it feels like they just want to have very bad things happen just for the sake of it or to punish the player (in an extreme way).
 
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I like both but I think I prefer happy endings a tad bit more then tragic endings. Tragic endings I end up crying to much in.
 
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For me happy endings all the way. Tragic endings are nice to have if they add onto the plot or dive deeper into what ifs. I don't necessarily like the short bad ends that occur when you make a wrong choice. Otherwise, otome games for me is like a nice fiction to read just with added sprites, music, and voice so I hope to always see a happy ending no matter how dark of a setting it is.

Indeed, some bad endings exist purely to pad out the game — the writers didn't put much thought into crafting them.
Some tragic ends can be just as good or better than the "Best", depends on what the writers wanted to say

I love your idea so much, I completely agree with you ヾ(❀^ω^)ノ゙
 
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I like both happy and tragic ends and think they're both important (although by happy end, I moreso mean the endings that are portrayed as the more "good" and complete or fulfilling ones, even if not 100% happy). In fact, sometimes it can feel incomplete without both (though of course happier ends do seem like the standard requirement at least for a feeling of fulfilment and to tie up loose ends in a story, so at the very least I think it should have that unless the whole thing is meant to be a tragedy) as they contribute to the overall narrative when taken together and seeing how the themes are interacted with in both.

Usually the tragic end shows what happens when the main theme or message isn't followed or is opposed, or otherwise offers a different perspective that enriches the overall story or theme (and the happy end through juxtaposition). I think the best tragic ends are those that directly enhance the happy end, providing both extra insight, a feeling of reward and a fuller exploration of the themes of the happy end. I guess if I had to pick one that's probably more important for a story overall to me, happier endings (as in not completely tragic) tend to feel more complete and satisfying and heartfelt, which not all media wants to achieve (which is fine), but it usually just feels like there's overall more heart and a feeling of catharsis (although I like full tragedies too and sometimes think that's the right choice for certain stories).

But when it comes to happy endings, I like when it feels earned, so there's sufficient struggle and suffering along the way in order to make the happiness actually feel cathartic and deserved, for the light to shine that much brighter. If it's just fluff the whole time with not much conflict, it feels unfulfilling and unearned, and I end up not really feeling happy and instead just empty. It's like, how can there be comfort in hurt/comfort without the hurt lmao. But yeah, without something to overcome, it just feels emotionally unfulfilling and instead just this feeling of lukewarm stasis. Happy ends also don't need to necessarily have a super joyful feeling to them? As long as there's at least this overall growth or feeling of contentment despite all that was potentially lost. Things aren't perfect but there's still a gentle warmth there, and the themes are resolved in way that overall feels kind.

Likewise, I don't like when tragic endings just come out of nowhere, like random death endings that make no sense and are just there to be shocking or something. I think just as much effort (as happy endings) should be put into tragic endings to make them feel like actual legitimate endings that are just as fleshed out, even though they're clearly telegraphed as the "bad ending" (bad endings, or endings seemingly intended to be taken that way, can provide just as much insight, at least into the writer's intended message). I feel like if nothing else, it would enhance the themes of the happy ending as stated before and refine the message the writer wants to send by showing the consequences of both sides.

So I would prefer if the tragic ends weren't just "random bad thing happens" just to check a box of having a bad ending. It should be just as meaningful and add something, say something about the overall story. And be something that stems from logical actions and events in the story, where you can understand why and how it diverged from the path to the happy end (instead of just having random bad things happen, as stated). I of course like having my heart ripped out and trampled on, but I would rather not have it be overly gratuitous where it feels like they just want to have very bad things happen just for the sake of it or to punish the player (in an extreme way).

I carefully read your reply and benefited greatly from it. Let me summarize some of the core ideas from your response:

"Tragic endings as a contrast to happy endings" — These are the counter-examples that may occur when certain mysteries remain unresolved, critical choices are made incorrectly, or the emotional bonds between characters fail to elevate. However, this doesn't mean tragic endings are meaningless; rather, as you said, they offer another legitimate perspective that enriches the overall story or theme.

"Growth after the protagonist overcomes hardships" — The characters in the work go through various trials and ultimately deserve a fulfilling ending. That said, I personally love the direction where the protagonist struggles desperately yet still heads toward tragedy — there's a poignant sense of helplessness against fate (laughs).

"Good tragic endings are not equivalent to meaningless filler endings" — You've explained this well enough, so I won't elaborate further~

Your reply gave me much to reflect on. If I could, I would give you multiple likes.

I used translation software; I hope this conveys my thoughts accurately to you.
 
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