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Folie Fatale - chatting (thread definitely include spoilers)

Holy smoke, I immersely enjoyed reading through it, @hib. Thanks for taking the time haha. Since I have played FF roudoku style (reading aloud focused on Japanese) I was not aware of some issues, but now that u mentioned it.... Esp Ruto for me, he deserved so much better. I remember finishing his route and was like "that's it?". Hopefully DLC helps filling the gaps but...
 
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This Game Should've Been Free And Deitsa Paid , It's Crazy How Better Written Deitsa Is . I Would Normally Not Compare Titles , But This Game Is A Sequel To Deitsa And I Feel That Really Hurt The Game . I Don't Regret My Purchase , But I Considered What I Payed Was Basically My Appreciation For Deitsa . It's A 6 / 10 , I'll Probably Make Poorly Drawn Lewds Of It In Private HaHaHa

Basic Geist Of My Opinions :
The Pacing Is Horrible , Feels Like It Was Made For Novelgame/itch.io
- Every Route Has The Same Formula Of Q&A , Hang Out , Then The Ending
- The Q&A Seem As I Describe Them : Just Relaying Info About The LI That Should've Organicly Known Through The Route .
- Everything Important Happens At The Ending , Everything Else Feels Like Filler Sadly . The Majority Of The Routes Feel Like They Cut Out The Build Up To The Ending , Feeling Abrupt . .
- Lack Of Kiss Scenes . . . .
- Setting Feels Like A Ghost Town , It Also Doesn't Feel Believable ; You Could Take Out Any Mention Of School And Change The Backgrounds To Anything And Nothing Of Note Would Change .
- Ridiculous That You Have To Pay DLC For Bonus And Basically Actually Having Story When Deitsa Did All That In One Product For Free .
- Characters Basically Are Tell Not Show , They Just Talk Like They Are Reading The Writer's Bullet Points Of Their Story . Just Explains Themselves Like It's A Reviewer's Summary .
- Should've Been It's Own Game , Having Carry The Weight Of Deitsa Is Breaking It .
- Pretty Art And CGs , Wonder OST Choices That Give It A Chill Feeling .
- Good Character Design ( Not You Secret Route )
- When The Game Actually Does Show Not Tell , You Get Great Environmental Storytelling Through Small Details That Are Cool When You Find Them .

I Think I Have An Unpopular Opinion But I Absolutely Hated Haruki As A Character And His Route After Playing It , I Really Hate The Trope They Gave Him . . . . . . . .
His Whole Meta NTR Type Was A Cool Gimmick At First
, Then I Realized How Much I Just Stopped Caring About Him ( Ironic Considering His Schick ) , I Was Looking Forward To Him . . . . . . I Saved Him For Last . . .

I Was REALLY Looking Forward To Mending The Broken Relationship Between Haruki And Natsuki , Her Guilt And Their Past With The Incident . Having His Points The Moment You Start His Route Being Heavily On Unease Was Amazing And Really Gave Environmental Story Telling On How Strained The Relationship Between Natsuki And Haruki . All For This Dunce To Throw Out Everything Between Them Just Say " Oh ~ I Used To Like Her , But Now I Don't Even Care About Her " LIKE Shut Up Dude , Don't Put Down Natsuki ! ! ! He Is Giving Me The " Ick " So Bad , I Always Let That Jerk Fall On The Ferris Wheel , Wish The Game Would Let Me Finish The Job And Throw Him Under A Truck : (

I Absolutely Hate Meta Twists In Story
, Because You Need To Be Really Good And Know What Your Doing Writing It . The Moment You Put It In , The Whole Plot Needs To Revolve Around It . I Have Had ENOUGH Of Half - Ass Execution Of This Cliche ! ! ! !


Secret Route Rant ! ! !
What Else Was Ruined For Me . . . . . ? Deitsa Got Trashed On , That Route Should've Been It's Own Proper Fandisk Of The Original Game . It Totally Throws The Settings Of Both Games In The Gutter , Deitsa Was Already Complete And Self Contained . I Am Speaking As One Of The Biggest Fan Of It , It Is A Wonderful Complete Game That The Narrative Will Live Rent Free In Your Mind Forever .

Akashi Literally Ruins Tobari For Me , He Pops Right Back As If He Doesn't Have His Own Good Ending ! If You Never Played Deitsa Than You Are Getting Gaslight By Him When He Explains The " Past Life " , Akashi Really Just Brushing Past How He Murdered Kasumi's Husband Right On Their Wedding Day . You Also Miss Out On How Pathetic He Is , Larping The Personality Of Hirai To Be Able To Rizz . . . . . . . . . . Also ! It's Basically Implying That The Other LIs From Deitsa Have Been Reincarnated Cause There Are Silhouettes And Descriptions Of Them . Honestly Everyone From Deitsa Deserved Their Own Route Here , Because More Than Tobari Should They Have A Chance A Redemption And An Actual Happy Ending . GIVE ME YAHIRO ROUTE ! ! ! ! He Only Made A Cameo In One Of Kanda Endings , But Damn Did He Make Himself Known , Aura Made Me Kneel . . . .

The Fact That It Is Being Treated As A Redemtion Arc Is Quite Bull , How Akashi Brushes Off Being The One That Ruined Natsuki's Life By Having Been The Person Responsible For Her Curse ! He Just Goes Oopsies . . . . The Whole Curse Mystery Was Being Built Up , For This ? ? Then He Talks About How He Won't Get In Her Way And Let Her Fall In Love With Who She Chooses , EXCUSE ME ? ? This Is The Only Time It Is Okay To Get Involved Since You Are Cleaning Up Your Mess Of Having Made Her A Psycho Magnet , She Is Going Through Hell And You Just Sit There And Watch ? Yeah I Was Right , He Really Is A Cuck . . . . And A Cockaroach , Always There And Undying
. . . . .

Quite Funny How The Tables Have Turn ! ? Tobari's Plan Of Trying To Get Back Together With Kasumi By Getting What He Sae As A Chud Incel As A " Friend " To Show Off How Much Of A Chad He Is Ended Up Having Him Get Cucked By Kasumi Falling In Love With Hibari . The Most Hilarious Part Is In His Diary , He Is Hating On The Book Hibari And Kasumi Love That You Can Feel The Seething . The Book Is About A Rich Lady Eloping With Her Poor Lover , Ditching Her Arranged Fiance . Then You Get To The Next Entry And He's Glazing The Book When He Read The Sequel Which Has The Fiance Confine The Lady , Of Course He Does . . . .

Then The Worst Part Was Adding Unneeded Lore , Who Asked For Magic To Exist In Deista ? With Reincarnation , Meta As Well ? ? ? This Makes A Mess Of The Plot With All Of These Topics That Need The Main Focus Which Makes It Disjointed To Put The Story Back In My Head . Also , There Is A Lack Of Acknowledgement Of The Fact That Akashi Doesn't Love Natsuki . He Loves Kasumi As Tobari , But Natsuki Isn't Kasumi . He Never Actually Gets To Know Her , Same Problem With That Dumbass Haruki ; Natsuki Gets Screwed Over And Shafted Of Her Agency And Choices By Guys Who Say They Love Her But Are Actually Using Her As A Substitute . This Is The Unintentional Tragedy That The Plot Twist Have Caused .


Onto The Other Guys
Kanda : I Wanted To Like You , But The Game Forgot That You Were A Yandere Stalker ,
That Psychic Trope Just Took Over Your Route . I Don't Believe In This Dude Being A Stalker And In Love With Natsuki Cause He's Quite Tame And Just Not Part Of The Plot . Anytime He Makes An Appearance In Another Route ( Literally 2 Times ) It Is Such A Treat To Him Being A Delusional Freak , Then He Gets Shafted . . .
Touri : I Actually Really Liked Him , He Was So Messed Up . . . .
An Incest Druggie , It Was A Really Wonderful Unique Take On The Ani Trope . Especially His Thoughts On The Preggo Ending Where Went Into A Manic State And Is Now Regretting So Hard .
Kanoe : Man I Have Some Words For You Poor Boy , You Got Shafted So Hard . If You Played The Demo , Then His Route Will Be Super Unsatisfying .
You Basically Play Through The Entire Story Up Until The Ending And The Demo Makes It Seems The Route Will Continue From There To Address His Problems , It Doesn't . . I Was So Shocked When It Just Ended There , Also His Route Was Also Damaged By Basically Being The Demo For This Game As His Route Was Basically The Common Route To Advertise The Game And The Characters .
Rito : Oh My Good , You Are So Unfinished . . . . Lord Of Getting Shafted . . . . I Hope You Enjoy Flashbacks And Reminiscing , Cause That's What This Route Is Since They Couldn't Write A Route That Can Be Read Mostly In Present Tense . I Like His Personality , That's All I Can Say .
He Feels So Inconsistent Since He Is A Serial Killer That Protects Natsuki From Her Crazy Admirers , That Why Aren't You Doing Anything In The Other Routes ? ! Are You Sitting In The Cuck Chair With Akashi ? ! ? ! This Feels Like A Cop Out For Why Never In The Plot As To Why Natsuki's Curse Never Seems To Actually Be A Problem . Like She Never Has Anyone Bothering Her Aside Form The LIs , It Was Plastered Over Marketing That She Has A Huge Amount Of Crazies Over Here , But In The Game It's A Ghost Town .
Akina : Yeah She Doesn't Have A Route , But She Deserved One After That One Ending .
I think a lot suffered from the length as well. Being under $10, I don't think it was a bad deal though. There is definitely a lot of "wanting more" out of it. I heard the DLC goes into stuff about their pasts and what not so I'm interested in that aspect at least.

I am interested in future creations from them though and would hope they improve on lacking aspects so I don't mind giving support. (maybe they were trying to make up for costs on previous release too) But now you really make me want to check out the previous game~ well, I hope they're able to put more into future games with the money. The music and art were very good and appealing but would definitely like to see more meat put into the story.

For yandere romance narrative, I resonated more with Enkyori (which is free, go play it anyone that hasnt yet!!) even though it was just one LI. Lol.
 
I think a lot suffered from the length as well. Being under $10, I don't think it was a bad deal though. There is definitely a lot of "wanting more" out of it. I heard the DLC goes into stuff about their pasts and what not so I'm interested in that aspect at least.

I am interested in future creations from them though and would hope they improve on lacking aspects so I don't mind giving support. (maybe they were trying to make up for costs on previous release too) But now you really make me want to check out the previous game~ well, I hope they're able to put more into future games with the money. The music and art were very good and appealing but would definitely like to see more meat put into the story.

For yandere romance narrative, I resonated more with Enkyori (which is free, go play it anyone that hasnt yet!!) even though it was just one LI. Lol.
I've Played Some Of The DLC Of Rito And Touri Backstories , It Really Fixed And Help With The Problems I Ranted About . Kanmidoko's Best Strength Is Character Psychology In Writing And Here You Can Really Feel It , I Felt Their Power Level From Deitsa Coming Through . The Setting Feels Not Like A Ghost Town With More Characters That are Able To Interact .

You Really Should Play Deitsa , It's Absoulutly Amazing ! ! ! The Writing Is So Crazy Good . All Of The LI Are Amazing And Actually Don't Disappear When You Enter A Route ! There Are A Bunch Of Bad Ends That Are So Good ! But Be Warned . . . The Game Is Very Darker Than FF Is , There's No Gore CGs But The Writing Absoulutly Is . There Are Scenes From An LI That Are So Damn Horrifiying , It's Wonderful ! !
It's Not Tobari HaHa , There's Actually A LI That's As Crazy And Dangerous As Tobari . It's A 50 / 50 Split Of The LI Being Actually Nice People And Batshit Insane .

Now That I Think about It More , Akashi / Tobari Just Didn't Work With Me Was That He Had His Personality And Layers Gutted Cause They Just Ripped Him Out Of Deitsa . He Worked So Well In Deitsa Was Through The Contrast , Parallels And Clashing He Had With The Other LIs And Characters . You Really Felt His Presence In The Story , He Haunted The Narrative . Also Was His Outward Cheerful Personality , It's Totally Gone In FF So He Can Larp ( Poorly ) Of Hibari ( <3 ) . P . S . They Remade His Iconic Sprite Of Him Being Batshit Insane , But They Butchered It . . . . It Lost the Actually Horror Of It . . . . . . I Think This Really Reflect His Lacking Character .
 
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@hib Oh yeah, I will shout it to the moon if I have to, but Deitsa is seriously amazing. I had no idea you could get such a quality game for free. Furthermore, the tokuten part (behind those pocket clocks) added so many layers to all characters. It was the first time for me when the backstory of one character made my mind go kaboom >< .
Still the chilliest thing for me was Tobari sitting and writing those letters
 
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I think a lot suffered from the length as well. Being under $10, I don't think it was a bad deal though. There is definitely a lot of "wanting more" out of it. I heard the DLC goes into stuff about their pasts and what not so I'm interested in that aspect at least.

I am interested in future creations from them though and would hope they improve on lacking aspects so I don't mind giving support. (maybe they were trying to make up for costs on previous release too) But now you really make me want to check out the previous game~ well, I hope they're able to put more into future games with the money. The music and art were very good and appealing but would definitely like to see more meat put into the story.

For yandere romance narrative, I resonated more with Enkyori (which is free, go play it anyone that hasnt yet!!) even though it was just one LI. Lol.
unrelated topic but
i just tried the VN you mentioned
I love how clingy he is lol, so cute :DD I kinda like 1 ml VN more since i can entirely focus on that character
Do you perhaps have any similiar recommendation? :D
 
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unrelated topic but
i just tried the VN you mentioned
I love how clingy he is lol, so cute :DD I kinda like 1 ml VN more since i can entirely focus on that character
Do you perhaps have any similiar recommendation? :D
not yet. haha. I have been playing through more indie jp stuff though especially because I get introduced on my xitter feed a lot. x3 bouquet for you was the other one I completed most recently. Actually due to this thread, I went ahead and started on Deitsa ! did one route ending so far, it's a bit more difficult JP wise than some other ones I've played so may keep me more busy for a bit. XD man I keep playing like indie japanese yandere games even though I Have a huge pile of physical collection commercial otome to still get through. xD
 
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I remember sending non-proofread post-game thoughts to my friend for the prequel game so let me paste this here for those who wants more context for secret route.
Disclaimer: I did not reread or proofread below thoughts dump; its taken straight from Discord and I barely remember the prequel by now to give any further explanations :X
I do like the secret route guy though :'D


Finished the game! (It was a short free game that was clearly made with a lot of love 😂 ) It was certainly an interesting experience and I'd need to spend a lot of time and words explaining how it was such a wild ride so I'll not go into the details... 🤯 😂 this was my brief post-route thought in the order I played:
1. Childhood friend: Classic childhood friend to the rescue route. Cute enough!
2. Blood-loving stalker creep: 😪 snoozefest, not sure why I needed a route of him tho it does reveal more on what's going through that rotten head of his. heroine ends up drugged/brainwashed.
3. Crossdressing co-worker: "????????????? WHAT IS THIS END? " was what i thought after this route. His route epilogue shows them receiving a letter saying "I'm coming to find you" (with CG of the letter) and ends with a fade to black + ominous shattering sfx 🧐 ???? did not need stalker-creep hijacking another route kthxbye
4. Inferiority complex red herring: Dude works really hard but can't beat childhood friend-kun in studies anyway and harbours an inferiority complex bout it. he initially approached the heroine to have something he could beat childhood friend at but ends up having his heart stolen instead. His route ends with heroine having to choose btw childhood friend and him, and childhood friend admits defeat and says he will respect heroine's decision after she takes I-kun's hand. route epilogue shows their wedding and childhood friend is the only one invited over to help take the wedding photo cos they have no money for a grand wedding. ending cg shows the couple smiling happily and childhood friend kun facing them with a gun behind his back and concludes with C-kun declaring that he's finally going to make the heroine happy 🧐 At this point i was like ?!?!? but this is not the end of the game

4 diaries unlock and basically show childhood friend's pov throughout each route till the epilogue. He does trash/stalker cleaning each route (~~tho in some routes he's the trash~~). 😂 I'll just jump straight to the epilogue
Diary 1 (Stalker's route): C-kun has located the couple and is ready to get rid of S-kun and laments it will be hard to get heroine out of her brainwashed state. he'll do it anyway tho, he has promised to make her happy.
D2 (His own one): He's thankful that the heroine is finally willing to accept a life with him (heroine doesnt feel like she's a good fit for him since she's an ex-noble in debt). He has worked hard to become the perfect man she likes and promises to bring her happiness
D3 (Trap-kun): Trap-kun is stalker-kun's non-blood related older brother and there was some unresolved conflict in his route with him. In the epilogue, childhood friend has located the couple and he sent a letter to them, knowing full well they would think that was a letter from the stalker. ~~i totally thought so too~~ C-kun declares that he is ready to bring her happiness 😅
D4 (I-kun): Dude does not understand why the heroine chose I-kun and does not accept it. He acts like he does tho cause he knows how stubborn the heroine is and that she won't back down from her choice. Years after his rejection, he writes in his diary that he has worked extra hard all these years to become a perfect man and that today is the day of Heroine and I-kun's wedding. His goes to the wedding, to bring the heroine happiness, he writes... 🤔 (doesn't really make sense considering how it should be obvious that she's not going to be thrilled)
And this is still not the end of the game O-o

5 stories unlock, showing the ML's past + epilogue from ML's POV story 1
(I-kun): nothing interesting in the past, saddest part was seeing how happy they are in the epilogue (wedding day) knowing he's gonna be shot 😭 (this kid was my fav too)
story 2 (Trap-kun): trapkun has a horrible stepfather who beats him up and forces him to do all sort of dirty work. Dad picks up Stalker-kun one day and Trap-kun now has a new baby brother. S-kun makes a lot of mistake at work, blames T-kun for the mistakes, but T-kun just take the blame anyway to protect S-kun whom he sees as someone who should be protected. One day, Dad asks T-kun to dispose of a tortured girl and he couldn't do it. S-kun was like "let me do it then ^^" and brutally destroys the girl. That's when T-kun realises that baby bro isn't someone to be protected, he's a carbon copy of the monster dad. He runs away from home that day. In the epilogue, he reflects that he loves the heroine a lot and will def protect her, even if it costs his life. 💀
story 3 (Stalker-kun): S-kun is psychopathic from birth, probably. first of all, he killed his blood brother by shoving him off the mountains (they were star gazing), citing that he thought his brother "looked bored". he got chased out the village and got picked up by the aforementioned Dad. he doesn't understand why Big Bro takes the blame for his mistake at work and accepts the beating without ratting him out and thought it'd be interesting to see how far he can go and starts making mistakes at work deliberately. 🫠 anyway, his Dad ended up liking him more than all the other kids and teaches him etiquette and other cool stuff. Other kids still do dirty work tho. One day he discovers that his Big Bro's work comprises murder and begs to try that out but Dad said "No, that's for shita ppl". skipping other details, in the epilogue, he remarks that his Big Bro is still alive as he lied to Dad that he killed him the day he ran away from home 😮
Story 4 (C-kun): C-kun has terribly controlling parents who sees him as a tool and berates him for not acting like the doll they want. his mum tells him about his engagement one day and he's not happy bout it but his mum is upset and forces him to say he is happy to be engaged. he wants to marry someone his chooses and feels v stifled by his environment. separately, he loves butterflies but his dad just calls em disgusting and killed his fav butterflies. one day, he sees this cute girl (heroine) in the garden who calls a butterfly that landed on her cute. he's like "🤩 someone who likes what i like! someone who can like me for what i am!" he goes up to introduce himself and learnt that she's his fiancé. he's suddenly thrilled bout the engagement ☺️ he asks her what type of guy she likes (she said someone who is "good at sports, academics, a perfect man + someone who is friendly and gets along with everyone") and he decided to become that perfect guy, because he feels she is deserving of that. anyway, heroine's fam ends up financially ruined one day, the engagement is cancelled, and C-kun hates that his parents wants him to switch partner even when he says he just wants the heroine so he threatens to kill himself if they refuse to accept the heroine as his wife. 😂 his parents relented eventually so his goal is now to just make the heroine return his feelings, and he promises to continue becoming her perfect dream guy 🥲
 
Oh i heard about it too!! Can you give me the full name of the other game :D? Also does it have English patch :D ?
I wanted to know more about also which route traumatised you lol if you don't mind me asking :D i think it is the ? because he shocked me too HAHAHA

which route did you started with :DD ?
the childhood friend!His name is Haruki
 
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spoiler related question, but does anyone know what akashi's name is? there was an option to insert his past life name i think and i wanna see if you get something if you get the answer right.
 
I loved both deitsa and folie fatale so much, I really hope someday both games get a voiced version, maybe for a switch port though FF would need to be censored a bit lol.

I really love Tobari so much, seeing his point of view amazed me because it was so different from what you experience as Kasumi. The glasses guy is so creepy though lmao. Kyoko is adorable ❤️

My favorite love interest in FF was haruki but shout out to best girl Akina, the heroine's best friend, she had a really cool moment ❤️
 
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100%ed FF the other day - touri's route ended up really underwhelming, which is sad. i had hoped his drug addiction plotline might go a little deeper into things