Mostly a vent post sorry!! I was browsing this one reddit post and supported this one commenter on how yuri routes in otome games are so good and trust me the amount of hate we got was hilarious??? Like why are we being so negative?? I thought we were better than men(who get all so disgusted at being called gay even as a joke) and were girl's girls!? Also it wasn't like we were saying the full game should be yuri but to have just one or two like in gekka ryouran.. For me yuri route is like a breath of fresh air. I might not be a lesbian but what's wrong with enjoying a lil bit of yuri?
Then I was told "go play yuri games if u want yuri route so much" like yup no way I wanna play those over sexualised yuri games catered especially for men's fetishes. I only love yuri when I see in otome games coz u would rarely find such nice and wholesome story anywhere else. Even in amare yuri routes are somewhat lacking but maybe that's just me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
eh, i kinda agree that if you want to see yuri, you should play and support yuri games. why settle for crumbs in a genre thats inherently heterosexual, after all? i sure know that i dont play otome games for yuri, and i dont play yuri games for het
but on the other hand, yuri in otome is actually something thats not exactly out of place, as long as its executed properly and doesnt take up like 50% of the game. unlike bl, for example, which does not belong to the genre at all. though its weird how people are so quick to defend bl garbage in otome, but are not open to the idea of yuri. and yet when its time to bash otome as a genre, theyre the first to use "yuri in otome" card. pisses me off to be honest LMAO they try so hard to be "woke" and "progressive", but the way they act makes them seem like nothing but petty fetishists who hate women and female spaces. oh well
eh, i kinda agree that if you want to see yuri, you should play and support yuri games. why settle for crumbs in a genre thats inherently heterosexual, after all? i sure know that i dont play otome games for yuri, and i dont play yuri games for het
but on the other hand, yuri in otome is actually something thats not exactly out of place, as long as its executed properly and doesnt take up like 50% of the game. unlike bl, for example, which does not belong to the genre at all. though its weird how people are so quick to defend bl garbage in otome, but are not open to the idea of yuri. and yet when its time to bash otome as a genre, theyre the first to use "yuri in otome" card. pisses me off to be honest LMAO they try so hard to be "woke" and "progressive", but the way they act makes them seem like nothing but petty fetishists who hate women and female spaces. oh well
Exactly my point!! It's really toxic how they won't hesitate to say it wouldn't even hesitate to say those two lis have better chemistry than with mc but if it's yuri with mc herself they be like blasphemous lmao. Also I like these crumbs rather than full yuri since I won't have any man to simp over(guilty)
i kinda get it.. but at the same time doomed yuri or half-assed yuri gets really annoying after a while..... (in my personal opinion of course)
lets see if hyakume no hananie gets popular enough to start a trend!
Liking or discussing yuri (lesbian) stories doesn't necessarily mean someone is gay. Does playing male-oriented games make a woman transgender or identify as male?
Those who mock and ridicule are both disrespectful and rude.
Appreciating a particular route is a personal freedom. Yuri stories can be very well-written, with character designs and scripts that resonate with players or provide room for discussion. This isn't a sin!
Everyone should have their own space; others shouldn't criticize arbitrarily simply because they disagree.
I believe the work itself is innocent; it depends on personal subjective feelings, and others have no right to interfere.
@Lilyyyy I pretty much vibe with your pov. I understand the strict definition of otome game is het romance between MC and LI, but I would be beyond happy to see some fruitiness (from both ends) between LIs and/or side characters. Yeah yeah, formally speaking, that would be considered amare game. So in the end, I wish some otome companies would venture out into some underrated territories that would enable them to make interesting stories with great and unseen dynamics.
Can you imagine bad end, where MC would choose her fem friend over LIs, since all of them acted as idiots. Or Lis choosing each other cause MC was too bitchy or something XDDDDD CINEMA
(def not saying every otome should become amare, just more variety in the field of the big budget joseimuke)
nothing wrong with enjoying a little bit of yuri omg... makes me a little sad simply saying something like this would get you so much hate.
however i don't think every yuri vn is made with male audiences in mind. i'm no expert (i read too little vns...) but for example, i quite enjoyed sweet home... although it may not be everyone's cup of tea, it was totally my thing lol and there's also a recent title called if you stay i wanna check out soon ^^ i hope you can find at least one yuri vn that suits your preferences, if you ever feel like reading them!
Mostly a vent post sorry!! I was browsing this one reddit post and supported this one commenter on how yuri routes in otome games are so good and trust me the amount of hate we got was hilarious??? Like why are we being so negative?? I thought we were better than men(who get all so disgusted at being called gay even as a joke) and were girl's girls!? Also it wasn't like we were saying the full game should be yuri but to have just one or two like in gekka ryouran.. For me yuri route is like a breath of fresh air. I might not be a lesbian but what's wrong with enjoying a lil bit of yuri?
Why are you surprised? Otome games are not yuri games and neither are they BL games. The expectation has always been that the female MC dates male characters. That's it. Perhaps you could mix the genres or even make the game 'unisex', but don't expect that such an unorthodox venture wouldn't be flooded with negative comments from people who 'felt misled about what the final product was'. Then again, why even care what other people think? You're the one supporting the game financially, making fanworks and participating in its fandom, not the haters.
I have mixed feelings about this as recently there's already a push (mostly from the West) to conflate otome with amare (which includes a lot of yuri content). Hating and mocking people for liking yuri routes in otome games is ridiculous though, and I don't condone that.
I also understand that a lot of yuri games are catered to the male market, so they might not be your cup of tea.
That said, I wonder what kind of yuri games you've seen, or played. Honestly it feels like your opinion of yuri is a bit skewed. While I agree men make up a large part of the yuri fandom, calling every yuri game over-sexualized with men fetishes is a big generalization.
For example I played Love Curse: Find Your Soulmate and it didn't seem...fetishy at all. It's the game that perfectly captures non-male-oriented yuri in my opinion. There's also another great one called A Summer's End - Hong Kong 1986. It leans into the sexy image, I won't deny that, but I wouldn't call this one over-sexualized because that's diminishing the actual quality of the story and art. Iwakura Aria is another game I've had my eyes on, though I haven't played it. It's not sunshine and rainbows but I don't see how this could be sexualized either, so hopefully it's of interest to you?
The problem is I think there's a market but there aren't many creators are aiming for it. As a result we have either full-blown fetishized yuri for men, or 1 route in a whole otome game that feels "not enough".
I still hope you could find actual yuri you like, because having to stick to yuri routes in otome seems like a painful experience.
I compiled a list of several yuri games I know here. They aren't all nice and wholesome if that's what you want, but they are examples that yuri doesn't always cater to men.
DoraKone - I feel conflicted putting this game here as I still very much despise the developers for their irresponsible attitude toward their other otome game, the crowd-funded money from which was used to make this... Night Cascades - detective yuri Fatal Twelve - death game yuri Forget-me-not - drama yuri Saint Maker - horror yuri Eclipse : Special Forces - those designs...ain't no way this is made for men. That'd be hilarious. London: Echoes of the Past - London detective yuri made by a Chinese group Lady in Mystery - Korean Joseon yuri Lilja and Natsuka Painting Lies - idk if this will look like it's catered for men according to your standards. To me, it's cute enough and the MC can honestly pass as an otome protag Flowers series - okay the girls show skin here, and some of the pose may seem sexualized...depending on your opinion. But this series is known for its writing and I think that speaks more of it than whatever skin is drawn.
You can check out Studio Élan's games too. Some of their games look a bit "moe", however tbf if you squint a lot of things can fit men's fetishes... and I still find this studio's games enjoyable as a woman.
You can check out Studio Élan's games too. Some of their games look a bit "moe", however tbf if you squint a lot of things can fit men's fetishes... and I still find this studio's games enjoyable as a woman.
ebi-hime too! her works are very female-friendly, and she has tons of yuri!!
other than that, kolulu's yuri vns are great too:D
also, keep an eye on menhera maiden and urban yuri! (and this one too)
i remember there was another upcoming adult woman yuri, but i cannot for the life of me find it right now.. gotta search!!!!!
ebi-hime too! her works are very female-friendly, and she has tons of yuri!!
other than that, kolulu's yuri vns are great too:D
also, keep an eye on menhera maiden and urban yuri! (and this one too)
i remember there was another upcoming adult woman yuri, but i cannot for the life of me find it right now.. gotta search!!!!!
Rightt ebi- I felt I was missing something. Too sleepy lol
Menhera looks interesting!
I haven't heard of kolulu but glad to know them now. However I have to be honest, with that exposed boobs ratio I'd be wary recommending them to OP...
I've definitely seen Urban Yuri and Citrus Summer before, though I tried to keep my rec list to released games only. These Chinese yuri seem like they've been engineered to match my brain waves, lol. There's a soft maturity and allure to them that I just looove.
Why are you surprised? Otome games are not yuri games and neither are they BL games. The expectation has always been that the female MC dates male characters. That's it. Perhaps you could mix the genres or even make the game 'unisex', but don't expect that such an unorthodox venture wouldn't be flooded with negative comments from people who 'felt misled about what the final product was'. Then again, why even care what other people think? You're the one supporting the game financially, making fanworks and participating in its fandom, not the haters.
Well I have been playing otome games for around 10 years now and a lot of them had yuri routes especially the psp otoges so it was very normal to me coz whatever it was it involved the mc. Also I'm not very active on online so this hate caught me so off guard lol
I have mixed feelings about this as recently there's already a push (mostly from the West) to conflate otome with amare (which includes a lot of yuri content). Hating and mocking people for liking yuri routes in otome games is ridiculous though, and I don't condone that.
I also understand that a lot of yuri games are catered to the male market, so they might not be your cup of tea.
That said, I wonder what kind of yuri games you've seen, or played. Honestly it feels like your opinion of yuri is a bit skewed. While I agree men make up a large part of the yuri fandom, calling every yuri game over-sexualized with men fetishes is a big generalization.
For example I played Love Curse: Find Your Soulmate and it didn't seem...fetishy at all. It's the game that perfectly captures non-male-oriented yuri in my opinion. There's also another great one called A Summer's End - Hong Kong 1986. It leans into the sexy image, I won't deny that, but I wouldn't call this one over-sexualized because that's diminishing the actual quality of the story and art. Iwakura Aria is another game I've had my eyes on, though I haven't played it. It's not sunshine and rainbows but I don't see how this could be sexualized either, so hopefully it's of interest to you?
The problem is I think there's a market but there aren't many creators are aiming for it. As a result we have either full-blown fetishized yuri for men, or 1 route in a whole otome game that feels "not enough".
I still hope you could find actual yuri you like, because having to stick to yuri routes in otome seems like a painful experience.
I compiled a list of several yuri games I know here. They aren't all nice and wholesome if that's what you want, but they are examples that yuri doesn't always cater to men.
DoraKone - I feel conflicted putting this game here as I still very much despise the developers for their irresponsible attitude toward their other otome game, the crowd-funded money from which was used to make this... Night Cascades - detective yuri Fatal Twelve - death game yuri Forget-me-not - drama yuri Saint Maker - horror yuri Eclipse : Special Forces - those designs...ain't no way this is made for men. That'd be hilarious. London: Echoes of the Past - London detective yuri made by a Chinese group Lady in Mystery - Korean Joseon yuri Lilja and Natsuka Painting Lies - idk if this will look like it's catered for men according to your standards. To me, it's cute enough and the MC can honestly pass as an otome protag Flowers series - okay the girls show skin here, and some of the pose may seem sexualized...depending on your opinion. But this series is known for its writing and I think that speaks more of it than whatever skin is drawn.
You can check out Studio Élan's games too. Some of their games look a bit "moe", however tbf if you squint a lot of things can fit men's fetishes... and I still find this studio's games enjoyable as a woman.
Omggg thanks a bunchhhh! I never even heard many of these lol. And yup my opinion is indeed skewed coz I tried the wrong yuri and got traumatized(it was very hardcore) so I assumed all yuris outside of otome are like that. Also I'm fine with any yuri as long it's not very 18+ (｡･ω･｡)ﾉ♡
exposed boobs are not always malegaze!! women can be horny for women too:D however, one of her works has futanari in it, so yea proceed with caution x3
exposed boobs are not always malegaze!! women can be horny for women too:D however, one of her works has futanari in it, so yea proceed with caution x3
senescence! personally i thought its a solid work, along with others by this creator, but also it involves some ryona (physical violence), so be careful if you are squeamish!
