Anime Sharing - Netorare General Discussion Thread

[Axioma]

So many good releases today in Japan (27), I can not wait to play 妻の媚肉を弄る父の太い指, 母さんのオトコ and エンジェルゲーム, especially 妻の媚肉を弄る父の太い指.

Seeing many of you like corruption theme, which is the best game with corruption theme? DOesn't have to be NTR works. Like others i prefer corruption with solid background story, especially heroine.

For me is hard to elect just one, here some: Triangle Blue, Hidamari no Kioku, Netorare Jukubo Natsuko, Wanna SpartanSex Spermax, NTR Kanojo wa Ijimerarekko, Kagachi-sama Onagusame Tatematsurimasu, Dark Blue.


One of my favorites netorare plots are the ones that the husband can not impregnate the wife, so he has to ask for a friend/brother/father to impregnate her and then ntr occurs, I really like this kind of plot beacuse it gives a lot oppurtunity for good ntr moments (sex near the MC, sex hidden from MC, insecure MC, insecure wife, etc...). But I just know a few games with this theme, from what I can remember: Akizuki-ke no Jusei Irai, Ikenai Kozukuri (this one is netori, but has this plot), Hoka no Otoko no Seieki de Haramu Toki and Hoka no Otoko no Seieki de Haramu Toki 2, and a manga that unfortunately I forgot the name, so I am not finding it in my archives or in exhentai even using tags...

So, can anyone reccomend me more games and mangas with this theme (MC asks another person to impregnate his wife)?

Edit:

Isn't Angel Game by Atelier Sakura is supposed to be coming tomorrow as well? Although at first glance, it seems to be just a swapping game and not an actual NTR game. Hopefully I'm wrong about this.

I played the trial and is netorare, it about a blind swapping and in the end most of the people know each other, so there are conflict feelings.

 

[DiabolicalGenius]

Where can I find honto no kimochi?

It's right here on the forum. There's plenty to choose from so you can take the torrent or find working links without too much trouble.

Isn't Angel Game by Atelier Sakura is supposed to be coming tomorrow as well? Although at first glance, it seems to be just a swapping game and not an actual NTR game. Hopefully I'm wrong about this.

As Axioma mentioned it's a little more complicated than swapping. If I'm understanding the translator right then they don't actually come together as couples, but actually all come to the sex party separately for their own reasons. The twist is that each of them know at least one of the others and there's a complicated web of relationships going on. The office lady is in a house-share with a salary man who she liked but recently found out it was unrequited and came to the party to get over it without knowing he would be there. The salary man is infatuated with a pretty college student only to spot her going into a hotel with a man, is shocked and starts to think his own lack of experience is the problem and enters the sex party to lose his virginity. The female college student is there too, is dating a male uni student who found out that she's been cheating on him with other guys and has since been giving her the cold shoulder and not sleeping with her, so she comes to the party to alleviate her sexual frustration. The uni boyfriend is there too and has decided to attend the party after having been seriously in love with the college girl and heartbroken over her betraying him and came without telling her. The uni guy had girlfriend who he separated with when he went off to university while she stayed in high-school and she got a shock when she discovered his current girlfriend was the complete opposite type to her and came to the party to regain her confidence. The school girl's homeroom teacher is attending to since he's married to a pretty wife who has gone cold in the bedroom and is frustrated, she's the only woman he has experience with and he likely has no idea both his student and his wife will be there too. The wife has been having trouble since the sex with her husband is painful for her so she began avoiding it, but she used to have a sex friend before marriage who she had great sex with and has hasn't forgotten, she joins the group to cure her sexual frustration so she can get along with the husband again. She doesn't know that her old sex friend is going to be there too, he's the office lady's subordinate and is always getting told off by her, he attends the group to cure his stress accumulated at work without realising that the female boss and his married ex-sex friend will both be there.

In other words there are no couples going for swapping, it's a circle where stranger meet to have no-strings attached sex with each other and it's a major twist that they all have connection to others, some even being couples or married. But since each of them came of there own intent to have sex without someone else without the other knowing, even if they see each other there it's hard to be indignant. Instead they would get jealous and be forced to watch their partner or unrequited love go off to have sex with someone else. Sure they'll be having sex with one of the others too, but there's plenty of room for jealousy there. So long as the guy hasn't actively permitted his partner to cheat as in swapping or netorase, then it can still be decent NTR.

For me is hard to elect just one, here some: Triangle Blue, Hidamari no Kioku, Netorare Jukubo Natsuko, Wanna SpartanSex Spermax, NTR Kanojo wa Ijimerarekko, Kagachi-sama Onagusame Tatematsurimasu, Dark Blue.


One of my favorites netorare plots are the ones that the husband can not impregnate the wife, so he has to ask for a friend/brother/father to impregnate her and then ntr occurs, I really like this kind of plot beacuse it gives a lot oppurtunity for good ntr moments (sex near the MC, sex hidden from MC, insecure MC, insecure wife, etc...). But I just know a few games with this theme, from what I can remember: Akizuki-ke no Jusei Irai, Ikenai Kozukuri (this one is netori, but has this plot), Hoka no Otoko no Seieki de Haramu Toki and Hoka no Otoko no Seieki de Haramu Toki 2, and a manga that unfortunately I forgot the name, so I am not finding it in my archives or in exhentai even using tags...

So, can anyone reccomend me more games and mangas with this theme (MC asks another person to impregnate his wife)?

Can't really say since I don't get as big a kick out of that kind of netorase as proper netorare. It kind of makes it hard to sympathise with the protag whose feeling anguished when he expressly asks another man to knock her up, even if it is because he's sterile. The only one that really did if for me there was Hoka no Otoko no Seieki de Haramu Toki 2 since the protag didn't suggest the surrogate himself but was bullied into it by his father who threatened to disown him if he didn't agree to let him impregnate the wife, so he just caves. I can go for it if the guy if pressured into it, so long as it's not his own idea. I can still get a kick out of good netorase like the marina games, but I still prefer netorare where the guy doesn't have any control over the cheating.
What I want to see most is a different netorase scenario where the heroine discovers the protag's NTR fetish that he actually never intended to act on since he felt it was too dangerous to try in reality, and she becomes convinced it's what he really wants and is just afraid to ask her to do for fear of being hated and seen as a deviant, so she decides to make his fantasy come true on her own. Bonus points if she is also doing it because the idea of her lover watching her cheat gives her a forbidden thrill and turns her on even as she claims she's only doing it for his sake. No sure if I'd like it more if she hides it and surprises him with it when it's all arranged and about to happen right in front of him, or if instead she reveals that she knows about his fetish and tells him what's she's going to do and ignores his feeble protests especially since they're hard to believe when he gets a raging boner as soon as she reveals what's she planning, so no matter what he says it sound like an excuse and he ends up torn and incapacitated by the conflict between his horror of what his lover is going to do and his expectation and excitement of the fetish so he can't do anything to stop it. That may be similar to netorase, but unlike that it actually gets me the most excited.
Yet nobody has done anything like it yet! Seriously, if I could find a decent artist and visual novel maker I might even write it myself I want it that much.

 

[Axioma]

Can't really say since I don't get as big a kick out of that kind of netorase as proper netorare. It kind of makes it hard to sympathise with the protag whose feeling anguished when he expressly asks another man to knock her up, even if it is because he's sterile. The only one that really did if for me there was Hoka no Otoko no Seieki de Haramu Toki 2 since the protag didn't suggest the surrogate himself but was bullied into it by his father who threatened to disown him if he didn't agree to let him impregnate the wife, so he just caves. I can go for it if the guy if pressured into it, so long as it's not his own idea. I can still get a kick out of good netorase like the marina games, but I still prefer netorare where the guy doesn't have any control over the cheating.

That's the way I like it too, when the protagonist do not truly want to lend his wife, when he is not doing it because of perversion or because he does not care. If the protagonist does not anguish or suffer, most of the netorare feeling is gone. The problem is that are too little options of netorare like these, so whe got just a couple of storys to think about.

What I want to see most is a different netorase scenario where the heroine discovers the protag's NTR fetish that he actually never intended to act on since he felt it was too dangerous to try in reality, and she becomes convinced it's what he really wants and is just afraid to ask her to do for fear of being hated and seen as a deviant, so she decides to make his fantasy come true on her own.

That is a good starting point, because kind of plot can generate a lot of scenarios and possibilities from there.

 

[Asphyx]

So i got into VN's 2 weeks ago and discovered NTR VN's the other day. Unfortunately I can't read Japanese and almost all NTR VN's have no translation available but as long as the female parts are voiced i seem to be be able to understand what they're talking about 75%+ of the time thanks to the amount of subed hentai and anime i've watched over the years.

From what i've heard only half of Triangle Blue's speech is voiced over which is annoying considering how much I enjoyed the anime though I guess it has to do with the game being a bit older :/ I started it though I still haven't finished scrolling through that prologue, I wish I could read it so badly.

Are there any to recommend like Marriage Blue though, specifically where type B kicks in early enough for it not to be the last few scenes. I tried Ore to Saeko-san where the type B came late enough for me to not really enjoy it at all

Spoiler: ore to saeko-san plot

the main heroine seems to enjoy it with her internal thoughts about half way but isn't broken until the last 2-3 scenes

. I'm currently trying Soredemo Tsuma wo Aishiteru but I haven't gotten around to most of the routes yet (I've heard there's a type A one which I wish to try).

Or alternatively NTR's where there are a lot of scenes after she breaks/gets addicted and the game doesn't end after one or two scenes.

I assume what i'm looking for is mostly covered in type A but I do enjoy the type of breaking type B has to offer that leads to the consensual intercourse, i just find it boring when its dragged out so long without many type b scenes considering I cant read Japanese.

I thought Marriage Blue was fantastic though for the little amounts of NTR VN's i've seen so far. The type B route could be even a little too quick with the breaking/addiction but there were plenty of scenes where she was enjoying it which is what I liked about it.

 

[stupid_army]

Just playing old Elf's game, AV King.

Wow this game really AV director simulator, you can pick the scene, control camera, etc. But, if you want to play this game only for NTR scene. You will be disappointed.

 

[hgawa61]

So i got into VN's 2 weeks ago and discovered NTR VN's the other day. Unfortunately I can't read Japanese and almost all NTR VN's have no translation available but as long as the female parts are voiced i seem to be be able to understand what they're talking about 75%+ of the time thanks to the amount of subed hentai and anime i've watched over the years.

From what i've heard only half of Triangle Blue's speech is voiced over which is annoying considering how much I enjoyed the anime though I guess it has to do with the game being a bit older :/ I started it though I still haven't finished scrolling through that prologue, I wish I could read it so badly.

Are there any to recommend like Marriage Blue though, specifically where type B kicks in early enough for it not to be the last few scenes. I tried Ore to Saeko-san where the type B came late enough for me to not really enjoy it at all

Spoiler: ore to saeko-san plot

the main heroine seems to enjoy it with her internal thoughts about half way but isn't broken until the last 2-3 scenes

. I'm currently trying Soredemo Tsuma wo Aishiteru but I haven't gotten around to most of the routes yet (I've heard there's a type A one which I wish to try).

Or alternatively NTR's where there are a lot of scenes after she breaks/gets addicted and the game doesn't end after one or two scenes.

I assume what i'm looking for is mostly covered in type A but I do enjoy the type of breaking type B has to offer that leads to the consensual intercourse, i just find it boring when its dragged out so long without many type b scenes considering I cant read Japanese.

I thought Marriage Blue was fantastic though for the little amounts of NTR VN's i've seen so far. The type B route could be even a little too quick with the breaking/addiction but there were plenty of scenes where she was enjoying it which is what I liked about it.

SOre demo Tsuma has both type of netorare with tendency to type B. It even has type C, no consensual from beginning to end so it can cover any type of ntr fetish people have.

 

[Selendius]

Just playing old Elf's game, AV King.

Wow this game really AV director simulator, you can pick the scene, control camera, etc. But, if you want to play this game only for NTR scene. You will be disappointed.

realize this game for quite some times, but just now download it after you mentioned it..
what do you mean by " But, if you want to play this game only for NTR scene. You will be disappointed " ??
thankfully the torrent are still active

by the way, i think some of you already play http://www.getchu.com/soft.phtml?id=402865 which is in my oppinion is a "happy" swapping game.
how about the special edition http://www.getchu.com/soft.phtml?id=441345 ?? is there any difference? try to find this and until now still in vain

 

[Axioma]

Unfortunately I can't read Japanese and almost all NTR VN's have no translation available but as long as the female parts are voiced i seem to be be able to understand what they're talking about 75%+ of the time thanks to the amount of subed hentai and anime i've watched over the years

Are you using any kind of translation assistence? I reccomend you to use ITH with the translators Atlas and LEC (https://amaenboda.wordpress.com/2012/03/26/an-aero-gamers-guide-to-using-atlas/). With this you can understand more easily what is happening.

Are there any to recommend like Marriage Blue though, specifically where type B kicks in early enough for it not to be the last few scenes.

You have good taste, Marriage Blue is a good one. If you want more fast netorare action you may want to try some Atelier Sakura games, but they are not high budget like Marriage Blue, some from them that I recommend: Hoka no Otoko no Seieki de Harande mo Ii Desu ka...? 3 (a classic), Shiirare Tsuma Honoka Eroi Karada, Hoka no Otoko no Seieki de Haramu Toki 2, Shin Hoka no Otoko no Seieki de Harande mo Ii Desu ka...?.

Or alternatively NTR's where there are a lot of scenes after she breaks/gets addicted and the game doesn't end after one or two scenes.

I also reccomend Kabe no Mukou no Tsuma no Koe, there is a lot one scenes after she is broken and is one of my favorites ntr (despite the rather fast adiction) and it is high budget, like the Marriage Blue one, but there just one "rival".

 

[Darkwings]

Are you using any kind of translation assistence? I reccomend you to use ITH with the translators Atlas and LEC (https://amaenboda.wordpress.com/2012/03/26/an-aero-gamers-guide-to-using-atlas/). With this you can understand more easily what is happening.

Yes, if you need any support or have some question just let's us know so we can help. I use ITH for extracting text from the game and Atlas for translating. With the supporting of Translation Aggregator, I can collect the extracted text from ITH and see the translation of Atlas at the same time. So it's enough for you understand the story of game.

You have good taste, Marriage Blue is a good one. If you want more fast netorare action you may want to try some Atelier Sakura games, but they are not high budget like Marriage Blue, some from them that I recommend: Hoka no Otoko no Seieki de Harande mo Ii Desu ka...? 3 (a classic), Shiirare Tsuma Honoka Eroi Karada, Hoka no Otoko no Seieki de Haramu Toki 2, Shin Hoka no Otoko no Seieki de Harande mo Ii Desu ka...?.

Good recommend especially Hoka no Otoko no Seieki de Harande mo Ii Desu ka...? 3 must be in list "Must try"

I also reccomend Kabe no Mukou no Tsuma no Koe, there is a lot one scenes after she is broken and is one of my favorites ntr (despite the rather fast adiction) and it is high budget, like the Marriage Blue one, but there just one "rival".

It's the good one however the whole story have some points I did not feel interesting (or I just hope for more however it's really good type B NTR game).

I recommend you some NTR games of Venus... Here is some examples: [Venus] うたかたの蕾; [Venus] Married life,... They are so special NTR game even though the art is not as good as other Company.
Or some games of Elf too. Strongly recommend [Elf] Boku no Kanojo wa Gaten Kei for your type.
OR you can also try [Miel] 新婚寝取られ生活～ごめんなさい、あなた。婚約、結婚、出産、ずっと私はおじさんに…～ and the sequel of it お別れ愛妻温泉旅行...
This one is also easy NTR game with fast speed ケダモノたちの住む家で (NTR Type B-1 ( Manipulated-consensual sex ))

There are tons of legendary games so you could pick up one of recommended game first. All games I recommended above have a lot of S-scenes after the girl broken so have fun. I believe you will receive more recommend from other members.

 

[hgawa61]

realize this game for quite some times, but just now download it after you mentioned it..
what do you mean by " But, if you want to play this game only for NTR scene. You will be disappointed " ??
thankfully the torrent are still active

by the way, i think some of you already play http://www.getchu.com/soft.phtml?id=402865 which is in my oppinion is a "happy" swapping game.
how about the special edition http://www.getchu.com/soft.phtml?id=441345 ?? is there any difference? try to find this and until now still in vain

Isn't that different platform? Former one is DVDPG, can be played using DVD player. latter is played on PC. Is that what you mean?

 

[Selendius]

Isn't that different platform? Former one is DVDPG, can be played using DVD player. latter is played on PC. Is that what you mean?

i just see that the CG is different.
isn't both of them are an eroge?

#after some investigation, there are no difference on these two ~_~

 

[RavenGenobreaker]

I played the trial and is netorare, it about a blind swapping and in the end most of the people know each other, so there are conflict feelings.

Cool. Would have been happy finally seeing just another swapping game but that's a sweet bonus!

by the way, i think some of you already play http://www.getchu.com/soft.phtml?id=402865 which is in my oppinion is a "happy" swapping game.

Loved this game. Wish they'd made another one and more like that.

That Orcsoft game is probably the only other one that's kinda relatively close, but still not really the same.

 

[DiabolicalGenius]

realize this game for quite some times, but just now download it after you mentioned it..
what do you mean by " But, if you want to play this game only for NTR scene. You will be disappointed " ??
thankfully the torrent are still active

by the way, i think some of you already play http://www.getchu.com/soft.phtml?id=402865 which is in my oppinion is a "happy" swapping game.
how about the special edition http://www.getchu.com/soft.phtml?id=441345 ?? is there any difference? try to find this and until now still in vain

I don't think there's any difference. I'm pretty sure the 'Special Price Edition' is just a re-release of the same game with a lower starting price.

 

[Asphyx]

SOre demo Tsuma has both type of netorare with tendency to type B. It even has type C, no consensual from beginning to end so it can cover any type of ntr fetish people have.

Yeah I sped through most of the routes last night and it was mostly enjoyable. The geno route was small but for some reason my favorite, I couldn't help but find it funny due to the wildness of the situation involving the drugging/hypnosis and her loving it like there's no tomorrow. I really didn't like the lack of internal thought voice acting though which was where Marriage Blue stood out the most for me I think. Even if I could read Japanese fluently I think I still wouldn't like the lack of it.

Are you using any kind of translation assistence? I reccomend you to use ITH with the translators Atlas and LEC (https://amaenboda.wordpress.com/2012/03/26/an-aero-gamers-guide-to-using-atlas/). With this you can understand more easily what is happening.

You have good taste, Marriage Blue is a good one. If you want more fast netorare action you may want to try some Atelier Sakura games, but they are not high budget like Marriage Blue, some from them that I recommend: Hoka no Otoko no Seieki de Harande mo Ii Desu ka...? 3 (a classic), Shiirare Tsuma Honoka Eroi Karada, Hoka no Otoko no Seieki de Haramu Toki 2, Shin Hoka no Otoko no Seieki de Harande mo Ii Desu ka...?.

I also reccomend Kabe no Mukou no Tsuma no Koe, there is a lot one scenes after she is broken and is one of my favorites ntr (despite the rather fast adiction) and it is high budget, like the Marriage Blue one, but there just one "rival".

I'll have a look into Atlas, thanks for that. The list you gave will help a lot too, i'll get around to downloading them this week. What's low budget about the Atelier games? Length? Voice acting? yet to try any of those.

Yes, if you need any support or have some question just let's us know so we can help. I use ITH for extracting text from the game and Atlas for translating. With the supporting of Translation Aggregator, I can collect the extracted text from ITH and see the translation of Atlas at the same time. So it's enough for you understand the story of game.

Good recommend especially Hoka no Otoko no Seieki de Harande mo Ii Desu ka...? 3 must be in list "Must try"

It's the good one however the whole story have some points I did not feel interesting (or I just hope for more however it's really good type B NTR game).

I recommend you some NTR games of Venus... Here is some examples: [Venus] うたかたの蕾; [Venus] Married life,... They are so special NTR game even though the art is not as good as other Company.
Or some games of Elf too. Strongly recommend [Elf] Boku no Kanojo wa Gaten Kei for your type.
OR you can also try [Miel] 新婚寝取られ生活～ごめんなさい、あなた。婚約、結婚、出産、ずっと私はおじさんに…～ and the sequel of it お別れ愛妻温泉旅行...
This one is also easy NTR game with fast speed ケダモノたちの住む家で (NTR Type B-1 ( Manipulated-consensual sex ))

There are tons of legendary games so you could pick up one of recommended game first. All games I recommended above have a lot of S-scenes after the girl broken so have fun. I believe you will receive more recommend from other members.

Thanks i'll look into those too. Think I'm going to try Eroge! from Clock Up first before I get around to these though. I've been told i'm missing out by not playing it.

On a side note I find it interesting how I became reasonably desensitized to any NTR manga and hentai but VN's seem to have sparked that original feeling again. I have bad anxiety so this isn't really helping in any way at all haha.

 

[hgawa61]

Yeah I sped through most of the routes last night and it was mostly enjoyable. The geno route was small but for some reason my favorite, I couldn't help but find it funny due to the wildness of the situation involving the drugging/hypnosis and her loving it like there's no tomorrow. I really didn't like the lack of internal thought voice acting though which was where Marriage Blue stood out the most for me I think. Even if I could read Japanese fluently I think I still wouldn't like the lack of it.



I'll have a look into Atlas, thanks for that. The list you gave will help a lot too, i'll get around to downloading them this week. What's low budget about the Atelier games? Length? Voice acting? yet to try any of those.



Thanks i'll look into those too. Think I'm going to try Eroge! from Clock Up first before I get around to these though. I've been told i'm missing out by not playing it.

On a side note I find it interesting how I became reasonably desensitized to any NTR manga and hentai but VN's seem to have sparked that original feeling again. I have bad anxiety so this isn't really helping in any way at all haha.

Who do you mean by Geno? Doctor's name is Kagami (加賀美) if I'm not mistaken. Ueno (上野）is protag's colleague, Hino (日野) is Nanami's college's friend, Nakano (中野) is Chihiro (Nanami's sister) boyfriend. I agree the hypnosis route is pretty good.

Spoiler: spoiler

I feel it's very believable especially there's similar cases happened IRL and it's pretty interesting it turns out Nanami is pregnant by the doctor but the protag is clueless about it the whole time. And Nanami is also getting into it while thinking it is her husband who's fucking her. :D
Unfortunately not all route are created equal, some of it are decent at best especially the one involving blackmail. Also none of the villains are given some kind of background story which is unfortunate.

If you like netorase game, give Kashidashi Marina a try. It's the best netorase game IMHO, I can't recommend it enough.
VN's is definitely superior when it comes to NTR, manga and anime can hardly convey character"s story properly since they have to reach H-scene in 20 pages or 15-20 minutes in anime

 

[Redorc]

Like I said, I'm fine with blackmail/coercion and corruption, so long as it's done well and not used as a crutch to support lazy or incompetent writing. My previous post was meant to support that this sort of thing wasn't unrealistic and could be great if done right, but I just ended up focusing more on why it wasn't unrealistic when it comes to Japanese culture.
It's just that finding it done well is hard, and in the end Type-A NTR done reasonably well almost always has a bigger impact that any Type-B, even if it's done well. That's how it seems to be for most of us.

I understand, but for me good (believable?) NTR A scenarios seem to be really difficult to find, so in the meantime the best scenarios I appreciate are the typical cliché blackmail then corruption route :P

I like it when the heroine falls into corruption in a way in which we can observe her inner struggle and slowly accept the act, maybe like that pin point game (kedamono)

I myself prefer the mystery route, where you won't see the struggle at least in the first playthrough. The challenge here is to give pieces of evidence to show to the reader her changing little by little, without any actual sex scene.
What I like the best is endings where the hero doesn't discover the cheating, but you see as an observer that the woman enjoys cheating on him, as her personality becomes more twisted.
I don't see that kind of scenario that often.

And YESSSS i´m also savoring Honto no Kimochi, slowly advancing in the story everyday without rushing anything, just now i think the netori guy has made his move, at the moment i really like the heroine and the MC doesn´t look that useless, only the typical way of not seeing the obvious.

I like that the heroine has an actual personality, as opposed to the passive type we often see in nukige ntr...

Just playing old Elf's game, AV King.

Wow this game really AV director simulator, you can pick the scene, control camera, etc. But, if you want to play this game only for NTR scene. You will be disappointed.

I remember that one, cool game, but indeed not ntr.

Can't really say since I don't get as big a kick out of that kind of netorase as proper netorare. It kind of makes it hard to sympathise with the protag whose feeling anguished when he expressly asks another man to knock her up, even if it is because he's sterile. The only one that really did if for me there was Hoka no Otoko no Seieki de Haramu Toki 2 since the protag didn't suggest the surrogate himself but was bullied into it by his father who threatened to disown him if he didn't agree to let him impregnate the wife, so he just caves. I can go for it if the guy if pressured into it, so long as it's not his own idea. I can still get a kick out of good netorase like the marina games, but I still prefer netorare where the guy doesn't have any control over the cheating.

My thought exactly, it feels more like an organized play, so there isn't really any ntr feeling, at least for me.

 

[Asphyx]

Who do you mean by Geno? Doctor's name is Kagami (加賀美) if I'm not mistaken. Ueno (上野）is protag's colleague, Hino (日野) is Nanami's college's friend, Nakano (中野) is Chihiro (Nanami's sister) boyfriend. I agree the hypnosis route is pretty good.

Spoiler: spoiler

I feel it's very believable especially there's similar cases happened IRL and it's pretty interesting it turns out Nanami is pregnant by the doctor but the protag is clueless about it the whole time. And Nanami is also getting into it while thinking it is her husband who's fucking her. :D
Unfortunately not all route are created equal, some of it are decent at best especially the one involving blackmail. Also none of the villains are given some kind of background story which is unfortunate.

If you like netorase game, give Kashidashi Marina a try. It's the best netorase game IMHO, I can't recommend it enough.
VN's is definitely superior when it comes to NTR, manga and anime can hardly convey character"s story properly since they have to reach H-scene in 20 pages or 15-20 minutes in anime

Oops that was a spelling error on my behalf, I meant gyno / gynecologist.

And yeah, thanks for the suggestion. I think i saw that one on VNDB the other day and I'll add it to my list of games to play. I don't think Netorase is my thing though, unless of course there's a route where she ends up liking it more and isn't just a way for the partner to recover his sexual urges. That reminds me of the hentai Aisai Nikki with the husband intervening right when I didn't want him to. I just noticed it has a VN but the tags don't match up very well to what happened in the hentai unless tags just haven't been added, i might give that a try too then as another Netorase.

 

[lockman]

Sorry I play game [Rascou] とある人妻のネトラレ事情２ but some image in folder CG can't see in replay mode or CG mode in game. Th game I play ver1.35
Why ?
And this game doesn't have a extra like the first game ?
Thank and sorry my bad english

 

[freedom10a]

I myself prefer the mystery route, where you won't see the struggle at least in the first playthrough. The challenge here is to give pieces of evidence to show to the reader her changing little by little, without any actual sex scene.
What I like the best is endings where the hero doesn't discover the cheating, but you see as an observer that the woman enjoys cheating on him, as her personality becomes more twisted.
I don't see that kind of scenario that often.

YESSSS, that´s the best but what i wanted to say is that when you see her POV the corruption has been made slowly and that it wasnt easy to the netori guy

I like that the heroine has an actual personality, as opposed to the passive type we often see in nukige ntr...

Later today im going to start Honto no Kimochi´s Heroine POV i expect that is going to be like that because in the MC POV she is feisty

My thought exactly, it feels more like an organized play, so there isn't really any ntr feeling, at least for me.

I think the best "organized play" is in Autobahn´s Tsuma Kanraku, when he discovers that the actual wife´s adventure is not the first....those audio files are amazing

 

[Axioma]

What's low budget about the Atelier games? Length? Voice acting? yet to try any of those.

Their older games have reused backgrounds, shorth leght, no CG outside H scenes and little route options, the art is good, but far from AAA (Alice soft, Frontwing, Minori, etc), regarding the voice acting, it is always very good, even in their first games. But they are much better in their recent games, but you need to know that there are different teams, so the quality and style can noticeably differ, the most famous and awaited games are the ones written by @onboro1212.

On a side note I find it interesting how I became reasonably desensitized to any NTR manga and hentai but VN's seem to have sparked that original feeling again. I have bad anxiety so this isn't really helping in any way at all haha.

Yeah, I am very desensitized too after reading a lot of mangas and games. In my first times I was breathless and with heartache, I know if a ntr is good if I start feeling like this again.

Did you already tryed these mangas here? If not, try then to see if you feel something, I also reccomend then to the other users here.

[Seme Danjou (Mashiraga Aki)] Musa http://exhentai.org/g/175484/c6ea2b5f55/
[Seme Danjou (Mashiraga Aki)] Musa 2 http://exhentai.org/g/175492/02d4d1749a/
[Namonashi] NTR² http://www.hentaibedta.net/namonashi-ntr-toranoana-special-book-another-day-english/ (for some reason they took off from exhentai and others online viewing site, I did not test the link)
[kiasa] Drive Your Nightmare http://exhentai.org/g/617238/be4da51450/
[Xration (mil)] Hime Kishi Tame http://exhentai.org/g/268640/3d60d038fd/ (All of them, this is only the first one)
[NABURU] 72 Day 1- 4 http://exhentai.org/g/635568/9d8c099178/
[Toko-ya (Heizo, Kitoen)] Saint Foire Festival http://exhentai.org/g/466695/8dcb331cfa/ (All of them, this is only the first one. Even if you do not like the ntr, there are some interesting and well done storys)

 

[jasx317]

Mystery ntr games are a rare gem and ホントノキモチ is one of its finest.

Really enjoyed myself.

The heroine's eventual corruption and the anguish i felt as an observer was oh so delicious. Here's to hoping that this will not be a one-hit wonder from the company. A+ will rage again.

 

[Axioma]

Mystery ntr games are a rare gem and ホントノキモチ is one of its finest.

Really enjoyed myself.

The heroine's eventual corruption and the anguish i felt as an observer was oh so delicious. Here's to hoping that this will not be a one-hit wonder from the company. A+ will rage again.

So maybe you will like Dark Blue (https://vndb.org/v2715) too, is a ntr with focus on the mystery and you have three heroines to lose. And there is a two episode hentai anime by the studio poro.

 

[Redorc]

YESSSS, that´s the best but what i wanted to say is that when you see her POV the corruption has been made slowly and that it wasnt easy to the netori guy

Ah yes, no magical change in personality like we see way too often, but progressive corruption is the best :)

I think the best "organized play" is in Autobahn´s Tsuma Kanraku, when he discovers that the actual wife´s adventure is not the first....those audio files are amazing

That's one exception I liked too, mainly because the heroine didn't know that the hero knew and organized the ntr.

Their older games have reused backgrounds, shorth leght, no CG outside H scenes and little route options, the art is good, but far from AAA (Alice soft, Frontwing, Minori, etc), regarding the voice acting, it is always very good, even in their first games. But they are much better in their recent games, but you need to know that there are different teams, so the quality and style can noticeably differ, the most famous and awaited games are the ones written by @onboro1212.

Exactly, I call them "Industrial NTR", because they have a better budget than a small circle (so voiced, better art), but their stories are average (with few exceptions) and you feel that they were rushed.

So maybe you will like Dark Blue (https://vndb.org/v2715) too, is a ntr with focus on the mystery and you have three heroines to lose. And there is a two episode hentai anime by the studio poro.

Not a fan of Dark Blue personally, if I remember well it was quite gory and the ntr was more C than B :/.
For good mystery stories, the one I can think of right away as examples are:
- 愛妻【reverse side】
- 寝取られ新婚生活＆お別れ温泉旅行セット (prequel and sequel)
- 鬼監督と俺の彼女
- Married Life
- うたかたの蕾.

 

[Second Brew]

Mystery ntr games are a rare gem and ホントノキモチ is one of its finest.

Really enjoyed myself.

The heroine's eventual corruption and the anguish i felt as an observer was oh so delicious. Here's to hoping that this will not be a one-hit wonder from the company. A+ will rage again.

Agreed. Haven't completed it yet, but so far it's been very good. I believe this is Jinsei tsukoudome's only 4th or 5th game, but with each game, the quality has gone up noticeably. Here's to hoping they keep this up.

I've grown to like games where the NTR guy has an elaborate and somewhat realistic plan set up to slowly corrupt the heroine and this game (as well as their previous work ヒダマリノキオク) pulls it off pretty well.

 

[DiabolicalGenius]

[MENTION=14267]Redorc[/MENTION] It's always been hard to find good mystery NTR in eroge. It's one of the reasons I favour the good eroge circles like Venus and Jinsei who know how to write good NTR and are dedicated to keep producing good games themselves. Since relying on commercial producers we don't get much other than shallow nukige that don't have much other than decent production values, with rare exceptions like ELF's stuff.

I agree with most of what you said about 'industrial NTR' but I should mention that while it has those flaws, as [MENTION=107220]Axioma[/MENTION] said the stuff written by their writer おんぼろ月 are usually well written at least, since he understands and shares the fetish. His stuff is usually worth the effort, even if it is sometimes flawed.

Also the games you mentioned are all classics I'd recommend to anyone new to the thread. Remembering this one makes me feel down though because even though it was their best game, Mekujira went completely silent after doing that, with nothing but silence in the three years since. They were on such a roll and I was really anticipating their future stuff after playing that one, only for the to apparently disappear without a trace. Such a waste of rare NTR talent, it's really depresses me.

Yeah, I am very desensitized too after reading a lot of mangas and games. In my first times I was breathless and with heartache, I know if a ntr is good if I start feeling like this again.

Did you already tryed these mangas here? If not, try then to see if you feel something, I also reccomend then to the other users here.

[Seme Danjou (Mashiraga Aki)] Musa http://exhentai.org/g/175484/c6ea2b5f55/
[Seme Danjou (Mashiraga Aki)] Musa 2 http://exhentai.org/g/175492/02d4d1749a/
[Namonashi] NTR² http://www.hentaibedta.net/namonashi-ntr-toranoana-special-book-another-day-english/ (for some reason they took off from exhentai and others online viewing site, I did not test the link)
[kiasa] Drive Your Nightmare http://exhentai.org/g/617238/be4da51450/
[Xration (mil)] Hime Kishi Tame http://exhentai.org/g/268640/3d60d038fd/ (All of them, this is only the first one)
[NABURU] 72 Day 1- 4 http://exhentai.org/g/635568/9d8c099178/
[Toko-ya (Heizo, Kitoen)] Saint Foire Festival http://exhentai.org/g/466695/8dcb331cfa/ (All of them, this is only the first one. Even if you do not like the ntr, there are some interesting and well done storys)

Yeah, I remember that feeling. I've been playing NTR stuff for at least six years now though so the desensitisation is becoming a problem. If something can make me recall that feeling even only a little, I know it must be good. Though I do think it's something that never goes away completely, and a good NTR will still get me off better than anything else can and will always leave me feeling a sense of black hatred and resentment against the NTR guy that make me angry even remembering it a while later.
Fortunately it's not like other stuff doesn't do anything for me, and even well executed and drawn vanilla can get a positive reaction from me, especially if it's one of my favourite artists and features the kind of characters I like. I also have a taste for anything that delves into immorality, including cheating in general and anything emotionally damaging. I could admit to masochistic tendencies, though it seems to be exclusive to emotional damage and attacks to the ego, with physical abuse doing absolutely nothing for me, at least when it's female on male abuse. In a hard femdom work I'll get a lot more of a kick out of any cruel dialogue than just by seeing the protag beaten and humiliated. Then again I can swing the other way, and love some good male-dom, though actual one sided abuse does little for me so I'm not a pure sadist. I just like stuff where the male physically and mentally dominates the female, rough sex and spanking etc, possibly some bondage, all that coupled with a masochistic women who's getting off hard on it all really does it for me too. But S&M props and gear, whips, leather and PVC and various toys, not so much.
I'm getting a little too much into this than you guys probably care to hear about, but the point is that while I have lots of things I still get a kick out of, nothing hits as hard as NTR does. So in the end I keep coming back to this thread every day. Once your in, it's hard to get out. Be prepared .

I almost forgot the main reason I replied, if you wanna know why the Namonashi works are gone, blame fakku. It was published by Wani Magizine and therefore is being hit with DMCs and forced to take it down. I'd wouldn't be as pissed off if they were only targeting work they had already translated and published or were at least in the process of doing so. But to get rid of everything the Wani gave them the rights to? Everything? Regardless of if they will ever translate it (I imagine they probably won't risk the pure lolicon works), just on the off chance that they might do someday? That's just too much.