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Very nice! That's an interesting perspective to have, but if it makes sense, then it's probably for the best.

It didn't show up? Now I feel bad, because I literally have no clue when that started showing up. It doesn't seem likely that it'd come with ShortcutsHS for NEO, so I can't think of anything else it'd be. : /
I don't recall having to hit any keys, as it shows up automatically; that doesn't mean I didn't do it without realizing it, though, but I find that unlikely.

30 minutes for one tentacle!? Ergh, I'm slow enough, already!

That's news, to me, I never heard anything about that discussion. I'm aware of that problem, yes, and it's also relevant to the main game/character creator. Hmm.
T
Yup, such is the norm with that sort of thing. Oh well, at least now they seem to be listening to us, based on what I've seen, thus far.
What's funny was having snow and frozen ocean all around one of the tropical island maps! XD (Ever seen "Son of Godzilla"?)

How can you not think of that sort of thing? Guess I'm more of a closet-pervert than I realized. There should be pillows around, but I can't remember which mod pack I got them from, unfortunately. : /

That'd be something to have, for sure! It would be problematic for girls who are already packed with 10 accessories, though!

Not everyone likes instructions, lol. Plus, to be fair, not all instructions are created equal; I've seen some TERRIBLE written instructions for some of the mods, around here (though, English is usually not the first language of that individual...).

Eh? lol, I'm a little befuddled! Popular? Not necessarily; those are long-time buddies that I'm privileged to know. Or do you mean the "Likes Received" thing? Well, it all adds up, I guess, I've been here a decent amount of time.

Couldn't find that one, eh? Well, as long as you use the previous "sub" updates in proper order, that should be fine.
T
Woohoo, that did the trick! You did it, buddy! Thanks a million! XD

Whew, boy what a relief to finally get that issue out of the way.
sin07
Indeed the length is what makes it difficult and time consuming. Shortening it within the studio itself also distorts the tentacle which doesn't look good.

Have you had any luck with importing? Troubleshooting can be frustrating at times.

With these new FK tentacles I think I"ll put your slime pools to use since they have some pretty incredible flexibility.
Syncroz
I've have noticed that it can be quite time consuming, mostly due to the length of the tentacles. A lot of nodes that needs to be adjusted.
As soon as I can figure out this importing problem that I am having I'll have some longer and shorter tentacles coming around.


In the amount of time people write their bug reports they could have fixed whatever HiR is causing just by open up a
single file in SB3UG, ctrl+c then ctrl+v and save, or well, you have to copy and paste two times at least. So it isn't that time consuming.
On the other hand, if you have downloaded a whole bunch of mods it can take a bit longer.
sin07
Oh I see. I haven't noticed this myself actually. Was this problem there in the past? I think I only used HiRNEO once or twice.

You're right, HiR is quite a nuisance and something always goes wrong :/ But yeah it seems like manual is the best way to go, although more work is required but at least it will give you peace of mind.

So of course I have to play around with the FK tentacles and let me tell you.. boy this is very time consuming. Setting up 1 tentacle takes up to half an hour! But the versatility is quite good.

Syncroz
Nah, I were trying to figure out an issue that TMV is having. It seem as if HiRNEO can't alter the format of the HiR list for the ordinary studio into studioNEO format anymore.
I'm still waiting for tmv to see if the change of list format will fix his issue.

You go bro, manual labor is the shiet. I'm so fed up with HiR now cause there's always something with it.
I wish people could do as back in the PPD/PRO days cause it were rarely any issues back then.
sin07
Hey sorry man I couldn't help you out in time. I was having a father's day barbecue last night. What was the issue?

I haven't used HiR or HiRNEO in a awhile, not since the update to Honey Horror but even then I had to put the items in manually.
T
I think I'm starting to understand what you're saying, though it's strange that I've since uploaded several studio files for NEO in the old format and not had any issues.

So what would be the proper way to write the new list for your file? I keep trying, but I continue getting back this error:

*Edit* - Strike that, I'm no longer getting the error, because, I thought I figured everything out, with the list file now in the studioneo\HoneyselectItemResolver directory.
Here's how I re-wrote the list file:
#<管理番号><種類番号><名称><マニフェスト><バンドルパス><ファイルパス><子の接続先><アニメがあるか><色替え><色替え対象><色替え(カラー２)><色替え対象(カラー２)><拡縮判定>
<4200><10><God ray 01><><studioneo/sit_01.unity3d><godray_001><><False><False><><False><><True>
<4201><10><God ray 02><><studioneo/sit_01.unity3d><godray_002><><False><False><><False><><True>
<4202><10><God ray 03><><studioneo/sit_01.unity3d><godray_003><><False><False><><False><><True>
<4203><10><God ray 04><><studioneo/sit_01.unity3d><godray_004><><False><False><><False><><True>
<4204><10><God ray 05><><studioneo/sit_01.unity3d><godray_005><><False><False><><False><><True>
<4205><10><God ray 06><><studioneo/sit_01.unity3d><godray_006><><False><False><><False><><True>
<4206><10><Ray 01><><studioneo/sit_01.unity3d><ray_001><><False><False><><False><><True>

I went through HiR_Neo_1.1.0_eng and didn't get back any errors, needless to say. Though, now I'm back at square one, and not understanding why it won't show up in the MonoBehavior file; and thus, not being installed properly or showing up in NEO.
I know I'm doing something wrong, but I can't put my finger on what it is.

Dammit, just when I thought I figured it out on my own, lol!
:akazukin_pat:
FWIW, I tried it with both category advance on & off, though out of convenience, it's best to leave that checked on, since it separates the default studio items and the modded ones into their own categories.
Syncroz
Nevermind my previous request. I found out what the issue was.
I guess that I'll stick to only making HiRNEO lists from now on.
Syncroz
Oi, Sin, can you do me a favor? You do use HiR and HiRNEO right?
Can you download the God Rays mod from the blog and run the list through both?
The HiR list should be placed in the HiR folder for HS studio and not NEO.

Does the items show up in the studio for you?
Does HiR shout out any errors?
T
Yes, it certainly has! Same to you, how are things with the photography? As for me, I've been more or less the same. To quote one of my least favorite Beatles songs, "Ob-la-di, Ob-la-da, life goes on..."

Hmm... I was wondering about that second rotate/move control, actually... I'm not even sure which mod that came from, myself. Maybe it's from this?

HS_StudioNEOAddon_v0.7.3

I always thought that was a studio bug, but apparently not! Either way, sometimes I find it to be a bit of a nuisance. Hope that works, for ya!
T
Ha! Then we appear to share a pet peeve, as far as that's concerned. That sort of thing has always bothered me, and yup, I find it to be lazy and/or rude. (Quite often, I think it's done on purpose, just because they want no part in the conversation, anymore. Still, it could be the worse alternative; no reply at all. -_-)
So, yes, our pov's are the same.

When Nightlife came out, I probably said something like, "Aaahh, the expansion I was waiting for!", that sort of thing. Seasons was probably my second favorite, love that stuff; still no Seasons for TS4, though, or Pets (I could care less about the latter, honestly, but people whine over that one, lol)
I recall the original producer or whoever for TS3 being overly ambitious and largely responsible for how screwed up that game was. He basically dug a hole so deep, that much of it would be impossible to climb out of. Who knows, maybe they'll give the open-world thing another shot, someday?
Personally, I just wish EA's tainted touch wasn't all over it, or that the creators could take their time so they didn't feel rushed to the point of messing things up, again.

Jeez, you took the cat fight all the way to the highest threshold of danger, lol!!! I was thinking more along the lines of wrestling in bikinis, or an angry pillow fight, ha ha.

That ring mod... I have yet to really give that a shot, but you actually explained it in such a way that I can finally understand what it's potential is. So that's how it works, everything from the Normal outfit carries over to the other two? Hmm, might have to look into that!

Honestly, I'm just amazed at the many ways people find to mess up their games. I've never seen more than half of the issues they bring up... more often than not, the fault is on them for overlooking an installation step, or the like.

No prob! You shouldn't have any issues, so long as you do everything properly in the right order.
Mr. Hanz Shudong? o_O This, I'll have to see...
T
Well, that is a shame. I've explained all that I can, at any rate. If things work on your end, that's fine, but not so for anyone else who wants to use the mod.

Honestly, this whole thing, including the conversation, frustrates me, so you'll have to forgive me as I step away from this issue and move on, for awhile.
I don't want any bad blood between us, like that other time when I tried to help you with a studio mod many months ago for SBPR. : /
sin07
Troublesome indeed. That doesn't sound good at all.

That mod sounds very useful. I'm going to have to look for it or I can even ask TMV. It would make moving those tentacles a whole lot easier.
T
As for the DLC updates, this is a great place for that, and many other goodies: https://pastebin.com/Z9kkjDjT

The latest patch is honeyparty_01_plus_0616to_sub, though perhaps getting the all-in-one would be easiest, which would be honeyparty_01_plus_0616df_all.

Don't forget to reapply the 4k diffuse/graphics patch, IPA/Translations, and the WideSlider, if you ever decide to take the plunge!

Well, well, looks like you brought out the worst of my wind-bag ways! XD
T
Oh, you think you're the only one, eh? :D I used to be much, much worse, but I eased up when people started replying in like half or less of the words I used. Guess I was too friendly, and/or they didn't care for all that text. : /

Lighting is magic! lol

That they were, and hence why the product got dragged into the mud, for awhile. The open-world part of TS3 was so much fun, and yes, some worlds were less problematic than others... but that city world was BAAAD! (Nightlife, I think?)

Yes, options are always a plus, heh heh. You just don't want them catching on, getting jealous, and developing some sort of cat-fight!
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Hmm, on second thought...

Sooner or later, I'll get around to uploading my damn cards. My only fear is the issues coming from mod IDs I've had to fix, due to conflicts, and people having the mods, themselves. Figuring out who uses what would take forever!
Very clever with the accessory use, I'm really quite lazy with that sort of thing.

Ahh, the pain of DLC and updates. I'm sure most modders will be relieved when they're finally done updating the game files. But yeah, you'll need that DLC to get those... though, actually, I thought it was the HSParty and NEO addon that started up all that, since it also prepared for the Battle Arena stuff? (Or maybe it was the May 12th patch...) What's stopping you from installing those, btw, just the translations? Quite a bit has been translated, actually. You should look into this, when you're ready!

UI Translation AIO
T
I only ever spoke of one error, and it was the same one Seth and a few others spoke of.

At any rate, I at least figured out the issue with HiRNEO, and the fix was exactly the same. First, here's how you have this particular object done in the list:

<><><4200><10><God ray 01><><studioneo/sit_01.unity3d><godray_001>

It's those extra brackets in-between God ray 01 and studioneo. It should look like this:

<><><4200><10><God ray 01><studioneo/sit_01.unity3d><godray_001>

Again, it's the same problem as before, so HiR at least seems to work... now the problem is that the items aren't showing up in NEO at all. Which category are they supposed to be in? I checked through all the items and they are nowhere to be found. Do keep in mind that I am using your original directory choice, involving the unity3d file in abdata/studioneo.

I just checked the ItemList_00_00 MonoBehavior file, and nope, the files were not added. So, the sit_Rays_01 list file seems to be fine, (otherwise I'd be getting errors, again) but something else, perhaps with the unity3d file, is not.
T
Hmm, well then, it seems I may have overestimated you, lol! I have, not including alternate versions, 37 girls, but 123 total in that folder; as for the men, lol, only Brick, Tojo, and Luther Stone... yup, that's it, aside from some other cards I downloaded to make up for it. I guess I need to start creating guys? Ugh, lol, not as fun!

Oh, btw, have you checked out Belgar17's and Snooley's male clothing mods? Those would help, I think. Belgar's are right here, whereas Snooley's are on HF.

(Sorry, had to split up my comments... got too long-winded!)
T
Much to respond to, here! ^_^

Ahh, so THAT'S her, eh? She just looks so different in comparison to your avatar version, like... now she looks more mature and tough, whereas your avatar version looks more youthful. So it seems we've both got a thing for girls who can take care of themselves, eh? :D

Yeah, SBPR was when I really started having a blast with studio stuff. My use of PC was pretty brief, in comparison. lol, I was actually pretty 'family-friendly' with The Sims series until around the end of my playing TS3. Just good, clean fun. TS3 could have been ultimate, if not for the routing issues, which was also heavily responsible for lag and all that. Damn EA, always finds a way to screw things up. -_- Too bad Maxis couldn't sustain the series on its own, like it did with the first two games. Now Maxis is pretty much dead, if I recall?

Yes! When they look extremely similar to not only the default girl, but all the other preset options! That bugs me, a little, but nothing to lose sleep over.

lol!!! Wow, I was NOT expecting you to pull out, quite possibly, Sylvia's goofiest moment! XD As for that being correct? Honestly, I feel reeeeaaalllyyy bad saying this, but I'm not even sure I know, anymore. O_O I know, I know, what a terrible cop-out answer, right? But it's the truth! I guess it's probably best to try a top 5, in no particular order:

- Sylvia, Thyone, Simona, Faeyline, and Yvette

The more I think about it, though, it probably is Sylvia, since I've been leaning on her, attention-wise, more and more. Thyone's still my avatar, though, heh heh.
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