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Thoughts on Otome Games MCs

I'm kinda the opposite I sometime enjoy self insert, it's not a problem with MC with personality. However it kinda breaks the immersion for me, I think that's why I've switch to IF's cause I play the games and I see an MC and they just look the total opposite of me.
 
I don't self insert and not a fan of faceless MC. Even at game like Mystic messenger I saw MC as different person so it was hard sometimes to concentrate on text when I saw her...face?
 
I think that's why I've switch to IF's cause I play the games and I see an MC and they just look the total opposite of me.
Look, as in physical appearance? Usually it's people hating the MC's personality but I guess self-inserts are kinda different huh
 
I'm a self-inserter (any fellow yumes?), but I enjoy MCs with fleshed out personalities because I tend to see it as me playing a role/acting. Yurika is definitely one of my favourite MCs since I related more to her. Then again, that's probably not a good thing~

Appearance is a bit of a toss up for me. I'm on the flashier side for fashion and such, so I do tend to find many of these MCs boring visual-wise.

As for names I love when games have voiced default names. It really heightens my immersion to hear the LIs saying the MC's name. However, if there's no default name I'll definitely rename the MC www
 
I'm a self-inserter (any fellow yumes?), but I enjoy MCs with fleshed out personalities because I tend to see it as me playing a role/acting. Yurika is definitely one of my favourite MCs since I related more to her. Then again, that's probably not a good thing~

Appearance is a bit of a toss up for me. I'm on the flashier side for fashion and such, so I do tend to find many of these MCs boring visual-wise.

As for names I love when games have voiced default names. It really heightens my immersion to hear the LIs saying the MC's name. However, if there's no default name I'll definitely rename the MC www
 
Look, as in physical appearance? Usually it's people hating the MC's personality but I guess self-inserts are kinda different huh
Yea I know it more non japanese otome games you can self insert and change apperances. I think for me MC always have a typical appearance. Brown Hair, pale skin etc when you read that so many times I just separate from it, but I want to feel as I'm part of the game.

Oh I do dislike some MC personalities Amnesia being on of them, she such a wet blanket it's what started putting me off. I think for me when I have an MC that has personality it has to be somone I guess I could mesh with?

If not it just does entertain me and I can't help but think, what are we doing?
 
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I'm usually not the self-insert type but I like otomes where the MC has some spice and can make fire comebacks towards other characters! I hate passive MCs that will let others disrespect them, it genuinely makes me mad, like girl get upppp!
 
I prefer a protagonist with a defined personality and backstory. It's much more engaging to follow their journey and uncover their setting. Using a self-insert character as a vessel feels a bit distracting and tends to break my immersion.
 
I like heroines who don't fall for others easily and have a sharp, sarcastic edge —
the kind who can really argue their point and use words as both shield and weapon.

I also love that kind of resilience: even when they're covered in scars and keep stumbling,
they still manage to crawl out of the mud again and again.

And I'm a huge fan of stories that carefully explore sadness,
vulnerability, darkness, and desire in all their complexity.
Honestly, no matter what traits the heroine has, as long as the writer treats her as a real,
living person when building her character, you can feel the writer's love through the words.
 
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I'm a self-inserter... sometimes? I like mc with default (VOICED!) names and avatar; yes, I can self-insert to anyone. Though, I dont really like mc that tends to uh idk how to phrase this goes against feminist value???? LOL example Liliana from Piofiore. IDK, I dont hate her, I kinda pity her tbh (yes, I want her to be happy) like... when she comments she feels jealous of Nicola who went to university before drafted for the great war (ww1), I feel like uhm... maybe you should go to uni too? idk girl. I even went to google; women are already allowed to go to uni in 1925-1926!!! LILI YOU CAN GO TO UNI!!! Maybe the problem is money idk she's an orphan OR MAYBE THE CHURCH SHOULD HAVE PAID FOR HER TUITION??? Why am I so passionate about Liliana's education ._.
 
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I personally prefer a Mc with a set personally and look but I dont mind playing a faceless Mc either I'm not a self-insert er its more nostalgia from the first few otome games I ever played mainly the SWD series.
 
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I'm usually not the self-insert type but I like otomes where the MC has some spice and can make fire comebacks towards other characters! I hate passive MCs that will let others disrespect them, it genuinely makes me mad, like girl get upppp!
Heck yeah!!!! Not a fan of the damsel in distress routine where she can't do anything for herself either but I can understand going for those options in games because the LI's can be insane LMAO
 
I prefer heroines with their own unique personalities. In many games, I like the heroine more than the romance options. For example, Kaori from *Ken ga Kimi ni Shiyagare* is incredibly cute, and Lulu from *Lucky Wand* is as lively and enthusiastic as a puppy. It's hard for me not to like them.

I'm using a translator to communicate, so I apologize if this causes any misunderstanding.
 
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Face or no face does not matter to me, I just want the MC to have some choice for proactive actions. She does not need to be rude or physically strong, but at least have the will and the mind to fight back when encounter hardships.
 
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I'm so passionate about otome MCs (my beloveds) so I have many thoughts. Apologies in advance.

I have to (and usually do) love MCs so I want her to have a set, defined character. She is the protagonist and POV character we're always with, so I think it's the most important that she, out of all the characters, is the most compelling, interesting and human (with vulnerability and complexity and acknowledged flaws etc). I like when the writer specifically crafts all parts of her character and all her actions, thoughts and dialogue to fit and enhance the story and themes.

I don't mind what personality or character she has, as long as it exists and it fits this particular story, because of course different MCs would fit different stories depending on what the writer wants to convey. This means that I am fine with (and usually still really like) even what is viewed as the "typical" Japanese otome MC that's demure, passive and kind as long as it's well-written (not written that way for the purposes of making the character less prominent, but instead as a specific meaningful choice), and if it makes sense and fits this specific story. Like in terms of kindness, although I do like morally grey and selfish characters (and this isn't incompatible with kindness anyway), I feel like it makes sense for the MC to also at least be kind to the love interests at some point down the line for me to believe they like each other and are close (because sometimes if the reverse is true and she's portrayed as too rude/mean, I can find it difficult believing her and the love interest even like each other, but again, everything depends on how it's done).

Basically, I'm fine with anything as long as it's done well and respect is given to the character as a representation of a real person - if the traits (no matter how "generic" they may seem) are not just there to be a placeholder, or because the writer thinks that makes the MC more generic for self-insert purposes. But are instead actually given attention as real traits a real person could have and are important to the development of the story, relationships or whatever theme is being conveyed.

Of course, just an MC having a character doesn't mean that I will necessarily like them, but the bare minimum (for me to even potentially like them and the overall story/relationships) is for the character to exist (as a realistic depiction of an individual person) and to make sense within the story (logically make sense with the setting and events of the story in universe, and also in terms of what type of story the writer wants to tell out of universe), rather than only being written as a vessel for wish fulfilment.

For me, immersion isn't when I can self-insert (because I never self-insert - but even if I did, the following would still probably make me feel more immersed and instead help with self inserting) but when the MC fits and enhances the story and setting, which requires for her to be defined enough in a certain way. Being a blank slate (which makes her not feel like a person) or acting in ways that are psychologically illogical (which can happen if the writer tries to reduce her personhood or doesn't explain her feelings or actions/doesn't let her react to make her more blank) or don't make sense for the story are the things that instead break my immersion. I need her to feel real, so I like when the writer actually respects her personhood and clearly shows her feelings and thoughts and how they are affected and change throughout the story. I can't be invested if she's just portrayed as a brick wall that exists only for fantasies and to allow for player interaction with the love interests, because then I feel like there isn't a proper dynamic for a believable and emotionally impactful relationship to develop (where both parties exist as people and thus can affect and play off of each other).

I like when her feelings and thoughts are strongly portrayed in detail and explained well, and when her voice permeates the entire story through how she describes things, tells the story and sees the world. I like monologues and when her feelings come through in every part of the story. I think this is also why I do end up having a preference for MCs that are shown to have vulnerability because it feels more human (and usually results in more introspection and insight into her feelings in the writing), rather than MCs that are only portrayed as super competent and confident without ever really losing or stumbling or having doubts, because it feels too idealised - like there isn't anyone who is perfect or that can perfectly handle everything, so it feels less interesting and realistic (like where are the stakes and what can be developed further if things are already perfect). In fact, I find it more interesting when the point of view character is put in dire situations and struggles that they can't just easily overcome, because it's usually more compelling to see how they react and cope (and potentially snap) under this pressure, and it feels more rewarding when (if) they actually do overcome it, or at least interesting to see how they are changed by the experience.

I also prefer defined MCs that are less customisable because then the writer can fit her character to the specific story they want to tell, resulting in the overall story being stronger in the message and content they want to convey. I feel like too much customisation can make the story more generic and have less depth in my opinion because the writer isn't allowed to commit to anything or explore any particular thing in depth (which I think is the main point of a story to me - to explore a particular theme and perspective in as much depth as possible) which means they can't be as specific with the themes they want to express.

I just think the best stories for me are the ones where all elements are meticulously crafted with love and precise intent by the writer (to contribute meaning to the story), and this would also (especially) include the protagonist (MC), which is why an MC that is meticulously crafted and respected as a defined character is my preference. This is also why I love when she has a set design and portrait, a default (preferably voiced) name and being voiced herself would be nice too (of course these should all be meaningfully decided so that they fit the story), since I like when they feel like a real character just like the others. This also allows the creators to craft these things to contribute meaning to the story - not just making them fit on a basic level, but also adding things like symbolism through the design or name. And like, if everyone else has a proper design but she has no eyes or something, or otherwise has way less character than everyone else and is basically just treated like a non-entity rather than a real (fictional) person like the other characters, then that just ruins my immersion because stories are meant to be at least passably realistic for the emotions to resonate.

Basically, she's the main character, so I'd like it to be her story more than anything else. I always hope to love her the most.
 
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I am in a state that lies between these two extremes. When I encounter a protagonist with a personality similar to mine, I can easily relate to them. And when my personality is different from theirs, I will view the plot between the protagonist and the male lead from an outsider's perspective.:mini_food:
 
it doesn't matter a lot to me but i do enjoy MC w/ faces and with unique personalities and aren't really a 'damsel in distress' type. i do enjoy when MCs are voiced like Teuta in BustaFe and Kisa in Jack Jeanne since it adds more to their personality & how they communicate with the LIs.
 
i'm more of a guardian angel type of player, i love to watch over my girls and oftentimes i end up loving the heroine more than the love interests (ceres my beloved <3). even in games like tmgs, i always see the heroine as someone separate from me.

for me, otomes that have a focus on story can only benefit by having a more defined protagonist (yurika is THE perfect example, txa would not be as great if she was written more as a blank slate). i think nowadays it's very rare for a commerical otome game to have a heroine catered to self inserts, i think the last one was sympathy kiss actually
 
If the game is plot heavy it needs a defined protag, just having personality and dialogue options makes the game more enjoyable, like the protags actions made the LI's feel a certain way. If not, the LI's love progression feels fake and not as fun (for me at least)
 
hmm i like both, but i do lean more into the MCs that i could imagine being a self insert! that was what made me super obsessed with mystic messenger hehe
 
I don't like heroines in CG whose faces are intentionally covered by bangs; it doesn't feel good whether it's self-insert or not.