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Guardian_02 said:
My recent reply was meant for you too, but to add on to it: He doesn't super limit his content either.
He has content released for the month on a plan, but after that he releases it onto booth for cheaper, and you can buy an entire months backlog for like, $3, since on booth its 500 yen which is barely anything. The people I would hold disdain for are people like Leool/Releo, who gatekeep LARGE quantities of scenes until you pay for 4 months of a subscription which is quite costly, and even then you don't get the full selection as you have to make a request for 1-2 scenes PER MONTH, so if you want to actually get all their content you'd have to be subbed more than likely for over a year.

So to be quite honest, pirating this guys work simply is not worth the hassle as you can probably buy every single animation this guy has ever made for like, 60 bucks give or take? Probably a tad more, but I'm not counting all the booth backlogs, I paid for what I wanted and just walked away.
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I assume you're talking about malcony and I'm really not aware of their content. My comment about the unreasonable prices was mainly just about cobby since somebody else mentioned their name earlier and they're also one of those creators that just use mostly motions from other creators for their videos and takes down uploads of their stuff all the time. It's good if creators make their old content easily available for a reasonable price.
 
Guardian_02 said:
I'm just going to put this out there:

Everyone in KK uses each others scenes, whether credited or not and sure if you think thats an offense, care about it. But the one thing I'm going to really say is that they dont use vtuber sound clips. He commissions JP voice actresses and even credits them on the videos that they take part in, either on fantia or twitter.
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i can confirm he is definitely using vtuber sound clips but its only grunts and moans that hes clipped. hes mixing it in with the generic ones that i've heard across alot of the other KK vids. Main example is his okayu vids. go check those posts. theres no commissioned VA listed there and i definitely recognize okayu's voice. His recent longer vids tho, yes hes commissioned VAs for those.
 

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Hachigaya said:
I don't know the stuff from the malcony guy but after a quick glance at their Twitter it seems like they mostly use motions from other creators, because I recognize some of them. A lot of animators also use models that were freely shared by others too. So if they use the motions and models of other creators I feel like at some point it's not really "their own work" anymore. I mean sure they still put it together themselves and that's some work, but it's a little rich to be overly protective and butthurt over people pirating your stuff when you already rely on the free work of more skilled and generous creators to even be able to make anything in the first place.
If that's paired with an unreasonable payment requirement to get the content the legitimate way, like it is the case with the cobby guy for example, who requires you to be subbed for two months in a row for some videos and others require you to have supported him for an accumulated amount of over $300, then I don't really have much sympathy for them trying to "protect their copyright". I don't even think you can get all their past works legitimately because he arbitrarily limits access to them after a couple months, quite literally making it a requirement for people to pirate and share the content or otherwise it becomes lost media.
Thankfully the majority of creators are much more generous and only require a simple fairly cheap payment to access most of their works and if you really like some creator you should support them since they deserve the money for the work they do.
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omakedaisuki said:
Creating MMD or KoiKatsu videos requires models, motions, sound sources, and visual effects.

If everything is the creator's complete original work, they could claim copyright. But once they use models or sound sources created by others, the video creator has no right to claim copyright.

That's exactly what I want to ask: are these video creators paying royalties to the modelers and musicians?
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It's not even just the use of free assets - he's exclusively profiting off hololive IP in a way that in many countries would get you sued and is directly violating several of their fan content guidelines. He's got no high ground to stand on. I know where I'm at, I'm not gonna pretend I have a big problem with it, but you can only really get away with it under certain conditions and he isn't following those.

I don't have a drop of sympathy for people who get super defensive over protecting "their" work when the whole thing is using other people's licensed stuff without permission or in this case explicitly against their rules to begin with.
 
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asdffafda100001 said:
It's not even just the use of free assets - he's exclusively profiting off hololive IP in a way that in many countries would get you sued and is directly violating several of their fan content guidelines. He's got no high ground to stand on. I know where I'm at, I'm not gonna pretend I have a big problem with it, but you can only really get away with it under certain conditions and he isn't following those.

I don't have a drop of sympathy for people who get super defensive over protecting "their" work when the whole thing is using other people's licensed stuff without permission or in this case explicitly against their rules to begin with.
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And by profiting off illegal activity, it brings extra scrutiny on the whole scene, including the creators that don't take any money. Like when Shirakami went to prison for making Genshin porn, it scared many of the chinese producers into wiping their presence online. It's a fine line to tread. Japanese artists are probably safe though, assuming it's seen as doujin work.
 
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アフリカオオコノハズク said:
btw, did u know that as backer, u can comment on that link, on the member only video, " hey can you do characters x and y for this video?"
and he usually update it on next post?
i've requested some characters before when i subbed
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Yeah I know, but I don't really have a preference I guess. I asked for some new character before that he hasn't used at all, but he just said he has no model for her so he can't do it.
Then I checked what models he uses and it's all from this guy TararaTarako so maybe it would be possible to request some character from these or maybe he'd only accept the characters he used prior, not sure. Maybe I'll try another request.
 
perckle said:
And by profiting off illegal activity, it brings extra scrutiny on the whole scene, including the creators that don't take any money. Like when Shirakami went to prison for making Genshin porn, it scared many of the chinese producers into wiping their presence online. It's a fine line to tread. Japanese artists are probably safe though, assuming it's seen as doujin work.
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China itself restricts access to overseas websites.
The arrested creator was earning money through Patreon and PayPal.

Japanese doujin creators aren't completely safe either.
People have been arrested for damaging their image with overly extreme doujin works.
The Japanese judicial system isn't as tolerant of erotic content as you might think.
 
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