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General BL Games Discussion Thread

I just realized that from JP VNs with English localization I've only played:
Noiz's route from Dramatical Murder
Meguro's route from Tokyo Onmyouji
And tried to play the first route of UuultraC but ended up dropping it.

I've just played so many more routes from untranslated VNs even tho I don't even know Japanese ... Guess I'm just unlucky with the current translated VNs not really appealing to me.
 
hi! i have a question about Paradise.
Theres 3 games right? I know that the first one is just "Paradise" but what about the other 2, Musubi and Kiwame ? In what order should they be done ? how good are they ? ty
 
hi! i have a question about Paradise.
Theres 3 games right? I know that the first one is just "Paradise" but what about the other 2, Musubi and Kiwame ? In what order should they be done ? how good are they ? ty
MUSUBI is an after story for the characters after the good endings in the first game, so if you have a favorite character you want to see more of, you might enjoy it. I found it to be a decent send-off for the characters.

KIWAME is an alternative universe to the OG story, so the plotline is different. Also, it has more character routes. I haven't played it myself yet, but it looks like it has pretty good reviews.

So the order is MUSUBI and then KIWAME.
 
Yeah like I remember Shin saying his backstory in the common route and then repeating it again the next day in game, like was that really necessary ?

About such BL VNs:
Haiiro no Arcadia
Kouichi and Riou are vanilla in terms of sex scenes, some dub con/forcefulness in their first handjob/blowjob scenes, but then they both double check for protagonist's permission before penetration and even use lube. There's r*pe only in their bad endings and Seri is the only LI with unavoidable non-con in his route.

Shingakkou Noli Me Tangere
I only played Neil's route from this one and the sex scenes were consensual but the relationship had an adult - minor age gap. The protagonist also almost gets r*ped by the old and ugly school principal but he gets rescued by Neil and another priest in time. From what I heard Leonid and Cecil's H scenes are also consensual in their good endings (the protagonist can even choose to be the seme during the sex scenes).

Taishou Mebiusline + the fandisk
I only played Tatebayashi's route, the H scene in the main game was a bit awkward considering the circumstances but consensual. From what I heard only Senge's route and a bad ending with the military twins has non-con.

Also the Western BL VNs I've played like Coming Out on Top, Seyiuu Danshi, Full Service and Bewitching Sinners have consensual sex scenes, tho except Bewitching Sinners they have been less plot heavy.
I remember
Riou
being so bad, the main character didn't even like it and the sex scene just kept going while he wasn't into it.
 
Just stumbled upon this thread so err...hello everyone?

Recently finished Tokyo Satsujinki so I've been in the kind of downtime of slowly digesting how that game ended while trying to pick out what to clear out from my endless backlog next (since part of me says to finally bite and go for Mebiusline since it's the only one left among the older titles that had the shared 'setting' while another insists to go for something more lighter & short that tends to land in the really old & obscure stuff valley)

Which is to say I'm curious on hearing other people's opinions on their own experience/views re:TokySatsu ( just how important Mebiusline really is to it from someone that knows both)
Wow, I never seen anyone having played! Some JP friends did but in the western part of the world no one knows it.

Then again I think it's for the better, I fear most people would read a google translate version...
 
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I remember
Riou
being so bad, the main character didn't even like it and the sex scene just kept going while he wasn't into it.
Fair enough, I know how it feels to have bad experiences in routes other people deem as vanilla.
 
hello! i just finised Matsuda s route in Paradise. I will talk a little about the game in general with no spoilers, and then ill talk about matsudas route within spoilers

First, Azuma is indeed funny. Some lines he said to himself made me crack a laugh, especially when he talked about Mitsugi. Btw, so far im not a fan of Mitsugi, he just pissed me off, even if later in the game he started to be less annoying. Takara is very nice and its good to see someone respecting Azuma, but he is sooo not appealing chara design wise, he looks like he is 15 (the fact that its canon he is supposed to look this age or even younger is even worse). But well, at least he is 20, but still
I was very invested in the story !! i never wanted to pause or stop the game ! even if im for now not interested in the other LIs i will still do their routes because i want to know more about the scenario

i decided to go with Matsuda first because he was the one who appealed to me the most, and he had Luchinos voice from LD1 bad egg so it helped lol. Ngl i had a spoiler about matsuda before starting the game, a spoiler that implied he was/could be very violent. Its a shame i had this spoiler because i wouldnt have suspected him. I loved how he was sooo nice and thoughtful. But i guess he appeared too perfect... Man im so sad because i loved his relationship with Azuma in the first part of the game, it was cute and i love their first 2 H scenes (even if in the 2nd one he already started to be pushy). They had some very cute moments and Azuma already had feelings for Matsuda by this point, and it was reciprociated. I liked seeing them caring for each other, being attracted to each other, etc. So it made me sad when Matsuda turned full abusive... But at least i saw it coming and by this point a lot of clues had been heading towards what his true personality is. I could completely understand why Azuma felt so betrayed and saddened. In Matsudas bad end, Azumas constant self hatred made me so sad for him. Please treat him better ! this couple had great potential. Even in the good end in the last H scene Matsuda still ra/pes Azuma and says he will never apologize for what he did to him (well not that it would actually make it better but lets beg for any crumb we can get ig??). I dont mind Matsuda being violent to the others because i dont need him to be perfect, but I do mind his mistreatment of Azuma in the second half of his route whereas he showed how nice he could be before. I know its supposed to tell us that he snapped after he started being accused of the death of that other guy, but still. I still think Matsuda is the most attractive of the cast and i like him with Azuma but im mad it turned out this way.
 
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hello! i just finised Matsuda s route in Paradise. I will talk a little about the game in general with no spoilers, and then ill talk about matsudas route within spoilers

First, Azuma is indeed funny. Some lines he said to himself made me crack a laugh, especially when he talked about Mitsugi. Btw, so far im not a fan of Mitsugi, he just pissed me off, even if later in the game he started to be less annoying. Takara is very nice and its good to see someone respecting Azuma, but he is sooo not appealing chara design wise, he looks like he is 15 (the fact that its canon he is supposed to look this age or even younger is even worse). But well, at least he is 20, but still
I was very invested in the story !! i never wanted to pause or stop the game ! even if im for now not interested in the other LIs i will still do their routes because i want to know more about the scenario

i decided to go with Matsuda first because he was the one who appealed to me the most, and he had Luchinos voice from LD1 bad egg so it helped lol. Ngl i had a spoiler about matsuda before starting the game, a spoiler that implied he was/could be very violent. Its a shame i had this spoiler because i wouldnt have suspected him. I loved how he was sooo nice and thoughtful. But i guess he appeared too perfect... Man im so sad because i loved his relationship with Azuma in the first part of the game, it was cute and i love their first 2 H scenes (even if in the 2nd one he already started to be pushy). They had some very cute moments and Azuma already had feelings for Matsuda by this point, and it was reciprociated. I liked seeing them caring for each other, being attracted to each other, etc. So it made me sad when Matsuda turned full abusive... But at least i saw it coming and by this point a lot of clues had been heading towards what his true personality is. I could completely understand why Azuma felt so betrayed and saddened. In Matsudas bad end, Azumas constant self hatred made me so sad for him. Please treat him better ! this couple had great potential. Even in the good end in the last H scene Matsuda still ra/pes Azuma and says he will never apologize for what he did to him (well not that it would actually make it better but lets beg for any crumb we can get ig??). I dont mind Matsuda being violent to the others because i dont need him to be perfect, but I do mind his mistreatment of Azuma in the second half of his route whereas he showed how nice he could be before. I know its supposed to tell us that he snapped after he started being accused of the death of that other guy, but still. I still think Matsuda is the most attractive of the cast and i like him with Azuma but im mad it turned out this way.

Hi, its me again! Now ive finished Mitsugis route so ill be talking about it (and comparing it to Matsudas) ! Pls keep in mind that I still have Takaras route to do! Im starting to get interested in his route btw, since i had chances to see his relationship with Azuma through the other LI routes, he had some very cute moments.


I have to admit that im not convinced by this pairing. To me his route has a "true route" vibe but... forced ? And first : goooood do i hated the dude for the, what ? first two thirds of his route ? maybe first half if im nice. And it doesnt even count some other later moments where he made me roll my eyes. Id say he is the opposite of Matsuda because Matsuda was great during the first half and then became a tyran, while Mitsugi got nicer. I knew i was invested in the scenario so i pushed through Mitsugis route even tho i couldnt stand him. But i wasnt disappointed because the story is still as entertaining and even more than in Matsudas route.

What i dont like about Mitsugi/his route (sorry its going to be long) :
- well his personality obviously, dude has been insufferable since the second he appeared
- i wanted to punch him through my screen, which isnt something that often happens to me. When he makes Azuma sleep on the hard floor after forcing him to room up with him in his room full of garbage and him ordering Azuma to clean up his garbage ? oh boy.
- im not a fan of his voice (I know its the same VA as Froud from Lamento, and i think that role was great so no shade to the man who voices him!!!) and even when you reach the end of his route he still talks with the same tone (as opposed to the other main charactrers who all had a various panel of tones)
- i do hate the fact that to reach his good end you have to completely submit Azuma to him and make him obey all his commands ??? Why should i just say "okay!" to that dude when he tries to force Azuma to retrieve a dead body on his own instead of doing it together ?
- i really dont find the dude attractive sorry... i dont like how his hair appears in cgs, i dont like his overall design and constant frown, i dont like his attitude and i dont find his behavior hot in the H scenes (i think Azuma is good in Mitsugis scenes tho, but not Mitsugi himself) even tho he is supposed to be some kind of s3x god for whatever reason?
- whats up with being constantly told he fcks good ? because i dont see it. I see Azuma being very worked up for reasons i fail to grasp, but i dont see what Mitsugi does that makes it so great. I only got that he does good handj0bs, but still. Sometimes it was just ridiculous to me, Mitsugi would be breathing near Azumas left knee and Azuma would start to l3ak everywhere or some stuff like that
- why do i get the feeling that his route is the "true" one even tho its not supposed to be ? Because, compared to Matsudas route we learn so many more things scenario wise + even in one of mitsugis bad ends we learn more stuff than in matsudas ends + we know he and mistugi escape safely (in matsudas good end you can have doubts because they could still end up being drowned since they escape on a very rudimentary boat) + mitsugi and azuma saying they were made for each other s3x vise + azuma telling to himself many romantic stuff about Mitsugi like he is the star in his sky or whatever, etc etc etc. Generally speaking i hate "true" routes because i feel forced to like something and so far all the true routes ive seen were pairings i wasnt a fan of. So here theres this feeling of being forced to like something AND its not even supposed to be a true route.... If there is supposed to be one in this game ig its Takara since you unlock him only once you finish Matsuda and Mitsugi. If Takara is supposed to be the true route idk how the game will try to top Mitsugis "true route" vibes. The game seems to hint that he is the mastermind but ill see. Mitsugi is also the one who has the most cgs
- the romance wasnt good (well same for Matsuda lol), i never rooted for this pairing

What was good tho :
- i already told about it but i love all the scenario elements we got and everything was very entertaining !!
- the bad end where Azuma goes berserk is amazing. It has nothing to do with Mistugi tho as it could have been the same for any other LI, its just that Azuma was being so great here. Following his train of thoughts during that bad end was a blast, and it really made me question everything that had already happened. Its a great ending. Kudos to Takara for jumping off that cliff to not be killed by Azuma, its a moment where i thought he was badass.
- at least ig most their H scenes were consensual except the first one ?
- i do like the moment where he burns the boat and book to protect Azuma. This was a good moment romance wise. Probably not a smart move tho since it made everyone stucked on the island, Azuma included.
- its only 1 line but Mitsugi licking Azumas back scars holds great symbolism, i just wished it wasnt just 1 line.

So i guess that almost everything i found good in his route is... unrelated to him. It was either the story that was good, or Azuma. I cant compare to Takara yet but so far it looks like the creators fully finished Mistugis route and then didnt have time for Matsuda so it was cut short on many things. But if its the case, its bond to be the same for Takara so lets see.
 
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Suito wa Hakumei - Hozumi's "normal" ending: Technically this was more of an alternative good ending cause the protagonist still gets together with him even in this branch of his route.
However the H scene in this version of his route has strong "Grindr hook up" vibes despite them still being supposed to be lovers (somewhat) ... I mean they don't even kiss, not during sex nor anywhere else in this route. And Hozumi goes home almost immediately after having sex, to the point even the protagonist thought he just got "toyed" by him.
Now tbh I quite liked the awkward romantic vibe their relationship had in the first half of the branch, it was pretty unique as far as relationship developments go.
But the route lacked any real affectionate romantic moments to make me really like it (well I guess this may have been the intention cause this isn't his canonical good ending so it's not supposed to be the best ending for their relationship but still, if they've just been a bit more affectionate with each other I would've liked the route more). I also would've liked it more if the protagonist eventually ended up giving up his military career just like Hozumi did so they could both live their couple life as ordinary people considering that objectively speaking Hozumi's still a much better soldier than him, but oh well ...

Obviously I'm hoping I'll end up liking his actual good ending more than his normal branch, tho I think I'm gonna play Shirasu's route from Tokyo 24-ku before diving into Hozumi's canonical ending (I think I already mentioned here finishing Asuma's route from 24-ku before starting Suito).
 
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Wow, I never seen anyone having played! Some JP friends did but in the western part of the world no one knows it.

Then again I think it's for the better, I fear most people would read a google translate version...

Fortunately/unfortunately(?) I knew some english-speaking crowd though 24ku so my experience went in the opposite where instead of no one talking I was actively avoiding landing on untagged spoilers from that side. Niche brand is niche though so it has been nice to find other people that have played those game (if the true supreme rarity for me would probably be to find someone else that has played ''Qualia'' or ''Sombre Dimanche'')


1000% agree on the later part though, since machine tls can be nightmarish as is so relying on that to experience what native fans of the series would jokingly call language tests would be a prime recipe for a headache on both sides if we were picking between quality or quantity when it comes to discussion
 
Hi, its me again! Now ive finished Mitsugis route so ill be talking about it (and comparing it to Matsudas) ! Pls keep in mind that I still have Takaras route to do! Im starting to get interested in his route btw, since i had chances to see his relationship with Azuma through the other LI routes, he had some very cute moments.


I have to admit that im not convinced by this pairing. To me his route has a "true route" vibe but... forced ? And first : goooood do i hated the dude for the, what ? first two thirds of his route ? maybe first half if im nice. And it doesnt even count some other later moments where he made me roll my eyes. Id say he is the opposite of Matsuda because Matsuda was great during the first half and then became a tyran, while Mitsugi got nicer. I knew i was invested in the scenario so i pushed through Mitsugis route even tho i couldnt stand him. But i wasnt disappointed because the story is still as entertaining and even more than in Matsudas route.

What i dont like about Mitsugi/his route (sorry its going to be long) :
- well his personality obviously, dude has been insufferable since the second he appeared
- i wanted to punch him through my screen, which isnt something that often happens to me. When he makes Azuma sleep on the hard floor after forcing him to room up with him in his room full of garbage and him ordering Azuma to clean up his garbage ? oh boy.
- im not a fan of his voice (I know its the same VA as Froud from Lamento, and i think that role was great so no shade to the man who voices him!!!) and even when you reach the end of his route he still talks with the same tone (as opposed to the other main charactrers who all had a various panel of tones)
- i do hate the fact that to reach his good end you have to completely submit Azuma to him and make him obey all his commands ??? Why should i just say "okay!" to that dude when he tries to force Azuma to retrieve a dead body on his own instead of doing it together ?
- i really dont find the dude attractive sorry... i dont like how his hair appears in cgs, i dont like his overall design and constant frown, i dont like his attitude and i dont find his behavior hot in the H scenes (i think Azuma is good in Mitsugis scenes tho, but not Mitsugi himself) even tho he is supposed to be some kind of s3x god for whatever reason?
- whats up with being constantly told he fcks good ? because i dont see it. I see Azuma being very worked up for reasons i fail to grasp, but i dont see what Mitsugi does that makes it so great. I only got that he does good handj0bs, but still. Sometimes it was just ridiculous to me, Mitsugi would be breathing near Azumas left knee and Azuma would start to l3ak everywhere or some stuff like that
- why do i get the feeling that his route is the "true" one even tho its not supposed to be ? Because, compared to Matsudas route we learn so many more things scenario wise + even in one of mitsugis bad ends we learn more stuff than in matsudas ends + we know he and mistugi escape safely (in matsudas good end you can have doubts because they could still end up being drowned since they escape on a very rudimentary boat) + mitsugi and azuma saying they were made for each other s3x vise + azuma telling to himself many romantic stuff about Mitsugi like he is the star in his sky or whatever, etc etc etc. Generally speaking i hate "true" routes because i feel forced to like something and so far all the true routes ive seen were pairings i wasnt a fan of. So here theres this feeling of being forced to like something AND its not even supposed to be a true route.... If there is supposed to be one in this game ig its Takara since you unlock him only once you finish Matsuda and Mitsugi. If Takara is supposed to be the true route idk how the game will try to top Mitsugis "true route" vibes. The game seems to hint that he is the mastermind but ill see. Mitsugi is also the one who has the most cgs
- the romance wasnt good (well same for Matsuda lol), i never rooted for this pairing

What was good tho :
- i already told about it but i love all the scenario elements we got and everything was very entertaining !!
- the bad end where Azuma goes berserk is amazing. It has nothing to do with Mistugi tho as it could have been the same for any other LI, its just that Azuma was being so great here. Following his train of thoughts during that bad end was a blast, and it really made me question everything that had already happened. Its a great ending. Kudos to Takara for jumping off that cliff to not be killed by Azuma, its a moment where i thought he was badass.
- at least ig most their H scenes were consensual except the first one ?
- i do like the moment where he burns the boat and book to protect Azuma. This was a good moment romance wise. Probably not a smart move tho since it made everyone stucked on the island, Azuma included.
- its only 1 line but Mitsugi licking Azumas back scars holds great symbolism, i just wished it wasnt just 1 line.

So i guess that almost everything i found good in his route is... unrelated to him. It was either the story that was good, or Azuma. I cant compare to Takara yet but so far it looks like the creators fully finished Mistugis route and then didnt have time for Matsuda so it was cut short on many things. But if its the case, its bond to be the same for Takara so lets see.
Okay, so here is my review of Takaras route, as well as a few thoughts on Paradise as a whole.

What should i say about Takara... well first i like that a few things i thought to myself were actually foreshadowing. Takara being interested in Azuma talking about a buried treasure on the island, his own name being "treasure" = "takara(mono)", his very big mouth for his head. All these were details that i noticed early in the game but didnt know would have actual importance. I also love that after doing Takaras route you can just be interested in doing the whole game again to check all the double meanings of Takaras interactions with the others. The suitcase being THAT heavy, Takaras jealousy once he realizes Azuma went with someone else, where Takara was when people were murdered, why he tripped, why he jumped off the cliff,... i think all this is very good.
The bad end where he forces Azuma to live his traumatic past again is good in a way that made me tear up, because it was truly a horrible watch. I hate takara.

Im praising the above, but the rest was just... bad in many ways. Its the worst route on many levels.
That route is RUSHED. It confirms my theory that the creators did Mitsugi first and complete, but then didnt have time for Matsuda and even less for Takara. Is there official informations which back up what im saying ? Or was it never confirmed ?
I dont mind Takara telling Azuma about his whole plan early on the route. It led up to the treasure hunt which was fine to follow, as well as Azumas thoughts. I was pleasantly surprised we got to follow Azuma/Matsuda/Mitsugi to the mainland too, trying to make sense of what happened to them. But everything after that is rushed. Except 1 library/archive scene we dont get to follow them with their researches and discoveries, nor do we get to see them cooperating to make a plan to take down Takara. Its as if the creatoirs realized they only had 5 minutes of screentime left... This whole thing was just so bad. The whole reveal was just thrown at your face (and that reveal was quite anti climatic too imo). And oh.my.god... that end scene with the CEO office made no sense and THAT CAR SCENE ??? thats the worst thing ive seen in a while, theres not 1 line in this whole car scene that make sense or can be saved.
Theres no romance also, and while the others had 4 H scenes, Takara has 2 (1 being very short too and with the cgs being actuallt SFW ?? out of context it could look like they are cuddling). I dont mind it because i dont like the dude, and i know it would have been full ra/pe and torture anyway, but i dont understand why he was made a LI then. Seeing him in the other routes, i started to be interested in seeing him with Azuma as a couple even though i really wasnt into him first, so i dont understand why theyd destroy all that buildup ? Whats the point? i would be surprised to hear theres a significant amount of people having him as a fave LI or him even be a LI people like.

And thats a detail but why is Azuma named the exact same way as his japanese army grandfather ? People give the grandparents name to their children they love (and if the parents like their parents enough to want to give their names to their own children), whihc wasnt the case for Azumas family AT ALL so why ? But anyway.

i remembered someone here saying that Paradise had 2 abusive LIs out of 3 so i was sure it was Matsuda and Mitsugi. But now that i did Takaras route i know they meant Matsuda and Takara since Mitsugi is the only one who didnt turn into a sadist/murderer. Whats up with this game having the 2 nice dudes becoming/being evil and the asshole being actually the lesser evil ? Not that its a bad thing tho because it messes up with your expectations, but it makes me mad that Azuma just kinda can't have a good bf. Mitsugi is also very abusive (and GOD he pisses me off like crazy), even if not sexually (except the first bondage scene). NOw that i did the whole game i just very like Azuma and i wished he had someone who would respect him and care for him. I want him to be with the Matsuda before he goes berserk because he lost the trust of others / the Matsuda of the other LIs routes. Please !! Theyd be so cute and happy together !!!

Personnaly, i loved the scenario of the game (until the moment Azuma/Mitsu/Matsu decide to investigate together). Azuma is a great MC. The mysteries were great, and my guess on who would the murderer be kept changing everytime. I suspected everyone, even Azuma himself... so thats something the game did good. The romance was bad, and so are the LIs even if im weak for Matsuda yk. Oh and the music wasnt very good, but i personnaly dont care that much

Its frustrating when theres a game like that, with GREAT elements that are sabotaged. I loved the mysteries. Azuma is a great character : cute, funny, human, with a dark side, etc. Matsuda is hot. But it doesnt make up for the lack of consistency in the quality of the routes, nor for the fact that the romance is quite bad.

anyway ill be doing the other 2 Paradise games so wish me luck lol. im hoping they dont have the same problems as the first one. Ill start with Musubi, as someone here told me it was the next one!
 
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This silly cutie!! Kyou from Mebiusline
however Towa has been growing on me lately!
a sleeper fave is Michael from Shingakkou

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JJ from Omerta. idk he's just so cool and chill and i love this vibe.
Gian Carlo from LD1. his personality really catches me and i like his VA, he definetly made him more vivid

or maybe i just have something for mafia members in general...
 
Hey! Heres what i think about Paradise Musubi
I would love to hear what you guys think about the Paradise LIs, because theres many things i have to say about them
just so youre warned : my review will be full of Mitsugi hate !!! and takara hate

Takara : ill keep it short for him because its the same as his route in the first game, everything is bad and nothing makes sense. There isnt one moment i liked. The relationship with Azuma doesnt make sense, Azuma liking him doesnt make sense, Mitsugi and Matsuda following them abroad doesnt make sense, etc. Im not even complaining about the whole cannibalism thing because i think there should have been ways to make it "hot" or "cute" whatever (especially since cannibalism can be a metaphor for many things), but it isnt the case here. I do find it interesting tho to have a character who looks like a shota but his a top with a huge D. I wouldve liked to see it btw, the contrast between his small frame and his huge D, but too bad we dont get to see it. Seeing his perspective on some reverse stories on the island was nice too like when we got to see some behind the scenes of the murders, but i wished we got to see what he thought once he realized Azuma has been having affairs with Matsuda/Mitsugi. Also, i do find Takaras dad and brother better looking than him. But i do like that on one cg he sticks his tongue out while doing the deed with Azuma, i think it summed him up well idk ? To be honest, i speedran his after story and reverse stories, but i read the key moments. I also did skip a lot of the H scenes too

Matsuda : ngl even after everything on the island i think he is the best bf/husband for Azuma. His after story had plenty of cute moments... And im so glad that he stopped being a tyran and treats Azuma well. You better treasure him. I like all their cgs together, they are very hot/cute. It doesnt erase that he ra/ped Azuma on the island (and still never apologized.........) but he will spend the rest of his life loving Azuma and treating him good, so lets get what we can get. Azumas life as Matsudas bf will be way better than as Takaras/Mitsugis bf because its the only route where Azuma isnt the slave of his LI lmaooo. Their relationship is way more equal and "healthy" compared to the other 2. ANd i like the fact that Matsuda only hits Azuma during s3x if he is the one asking for it. And i love when Azuma strangled Matsuda during one H scene... Like, you go king !!!! strangle that b!tch!!!! he doesnt deserve oxygen. Matsuda accepting Azuma being violent to him in return is something im glad to see. Speaking about h scenes, i certainly didnt expect to have a whole view of Matsudas asshole and butt/thighs, but im not complaining. Idk how biaised i am but i like their H scenes, thats the only ones i found hot + Matsuda is hot too. I like his voice/appearance/attitude. On a side note, Matsuda/Azuma as backpackers is so cute and suits them well. I also liked that Matsuda ended up bonding with Ogino over how cute Azuma is (even if Azuma was just completely excluded from the convo...). It was good to see Ogino too. He is annoying and forcefully invites himself/cant read the room, but he isnt a bad dude.

Mitsugi : ohmygod. Where to start ? Ill go with the good points first. He is less insufferable than in the og game, and he finally has different voice tones. Also, thank you Azuma for putting his hair in a ponytail, he looks so much better with his hair tied! Btw, the cg of Azuma tying Mitsugis hair is my fav cg of his route. Generally speaking most of the Mitsugi cgs look better in Musubi than in the og game, i think his face is better AND the tied hair is way better. Finally, we have cgs of Mitsugi smiling at Azuma. And finally, Mitsugi has some cute moments with Azuma : when theyr are in the cemetary the scene was cute especially when Mitsugi tells Azuma that NO he isnt a loser and that he loves him. Im glad it happened, because Mitsugi kept diminishing him. The idea of Mitsugi building a home just for the 2 of them is very cute too. Azuma teases Mitsugi more too, even if its very light. For the reverse routes, its interesting to know that one of the reasons Mitsugi was so mean to Azuma in the first game was because he was physically attracted to him but he wasnt at peace with it. It makes his actions a little less annoying and im happy to know he got scared that Azuma was drowning when he pushed him in the lake, because in the og game it almost looked like he didnt care about almost killing him... Thats it for the good points.
Now for the rest... Well, i still hate him. When we are told that he invites Azuma to his place so that he can clean up for him?? It reminds me of those IRL men who invite their gf or mom their apartment so that they can do their chores for them. I find it so despicable. Even without that, i personnally think that inviting people over to an apartment which is just a big trashcan is just disrespectful. He isnt even sorry for it, not one bit. Azuma has to do EVERYTHING for him : he makes his food, he has to buy the groceries, he does his laundry, he cleans up the whole place and he doesnt even get a thank you. Because no, Mitsugi telling Azuma that "his food is always delicious" once doesnt make up for everything. Poor Azuma has the bar so low that Mitsugi saying the food was good was the nicest interaction they had in a while... Not only does Mitsugi expect Azuma to do everything for him, he doesnt even make the slightest effort to not transform his place in a dumpster ? He still doesnt put his clothes away, still throws his trash on the ground, because he knows that in a few days his slav... uh sorry his "lover" will clean up everything for him whatever happens. Also, when they start having s3x and Azuma gets to worry about more stuff being dirty, i got so mad when Mistugi told him to "just do one more laundry" like omg go fck yourself Mitsugi ? Cant you do anything with those 2 arms of yours ? Instead of giving even more work to Azuma. The way Mitsugi thinks Azuma being at his service is normal just makes my blood boil. I really have the impression that im following a basic straight couple (well except that Azuma gets to orgasm at least). Speaking about H scenes, i still dont find their scenes particularily good and i still dont get what Mitsugi does that would make him very good at s3x. Azuma is always cute but Mitsugi is just meh. I really dont find him hot. One good thing in one of their H scenes tho is Mitsugi telling Azuma that its so great that he produces that much liquid during s3x. This was nice, especially since Azuma gets embarassed by it even tho it can only help him having more enjoyable intercourse. Besides the fact that Azuma gets to enjoy s3x, the rest of their relationship is so bad. One of the cgs and supposedly "cute" moment being Mitsugi trying to prepare dinner and just destroying everything says it all. How is it cute ? He only offered to do it so that he could fuck it up to say to Azuma "uh now you see im bad at it!!! thats why YOU have to do it!!". He didnt even try to make it good, he just didnt care about what Azuma told him and/or thought he knew better than him whatever, its all bad anyway. Thank you Mitsugi for destroying the food AZUMA had bought, for forcing AZUMA to cook again and for giving AZUMA even more work because you didnt even want to clean up the big mess you made !!!!!! how romantic !!! what a fantastic couple !!! oh and we are supposed to find this scene cute because Mitsugi kissed Azuma to make him shut up and do the cooking/dishes !!!! for fucks sake... If i wanted to see a very bad straight couple dynamic ill just be going to my parents apartment for the weekend, thank you. Thank god Azuma cant get pregnant because im sure Mitsugi would want to impregnate him and then he would 10000% let Azuma handle ALL the work concerning the kids. Even their last scene which is supposed to be very cute falls completely flat. Like, aaaaw how cute Mitsugi and Azuma are saying theyll build their home together to create their own paradise!! Cant wait to see Mitsugi just transforming this new made "paradise" home into a dumpster <333 cant wait to see this "paradise" where Azuma gets to be Mitsugis domestic labor slave for the rest of his life <333333
Whats up with that relationship dynamic ? Is it really this couple we are supposed to root for ? They gave Mitsugi so many plot reveals in the og game and so many "true route" vibes all for him to be this shitty of a boyfriend. At least, with Takara i can see that he is supposed to appeal to a more niche audience and i dont feel forced to like him, but with Mitsugi you can clearly see they wanted people to like him. And it worked, since i saw he is the most popular LI... Sorry but out of all BL games ive played he is one of the worst LIs ive seen. I really dont vibe with him at all. Also, i thought Mitsugi was supposed to not be attracted to his mentor Kotohara because he was "family" ? So whats up with the reverse routes saying that he wants to bang Azuma who also reminds him of his dead father figure ? DId Mitsugi actually want to bang is late mentor then, as opposed to what the og game told us ? I know its not the case but the writing was so confusing here.
Azuma deserves so much better. After everything Azuma has been through, he needs to finally be at peace. Him being a mistreated kid, not having anyone giving him food and him having to take care of himself on his own and then once he became adult the "good" end being him in a relationship with a manchild who doesnt do anything for him and treats him like his domestic slave just doesnt sit right with me.

Ill do Paradise Kiwame. But idk if ill start it now or if ill wait a little. I just hope the LIs will be more likeable lol. I probably need a pause because idk if i can handle mitsugi and takara again
 
Hey! Heres what i think about Paradise Musubi
I would love to hear what you guys think about the Paradise LIs, because theres many things i have to say about them
just so youre warned : my review will be full of Mitsugi hate !!! and takara hate

Takara : ill keep it short for him because its the same as his route in the first game, everything is bad and nothing makes sense. There isnt one moment i liked. The relationship with Azuma doesnt make sense, Azuma liking him doesnt make sense, Mitsugi and Matsuda following them abroad doesnt make sense, etc. Im not even complaining about the whole cannibalism thing because i think there should have been ways to make it "hot" or "cute" whatever (especially since cannibalism can be a metaphor for many things), but it isnt the case here. I do find it interesting tho to have a character who looks like a shota but his a top with a huge D. I wouldve liked to see it btw, the contrast between his small frame and his huge D, but too bad we dont get to see it. Seeing his perspective on some reverse stories on the island was nice too like when we got to see some behind the scenes of the murders, but i wished we got to see what he thought once he realized Azuma has been having affairs with Matsuda/Mitsugi. Also, i do find Takaras dad and brother better looking than him. But i do like that on one cg he sticks his tongue out while doing the deed with Azuma, i think it summed him up well idk ? To be honest, i speedran his after story and reverse stories, but i read the key moments. I also did skip a lot of the H scenes too

Matsuda : ngl even after everything on the island i think he is the best bf/husband for Azuma. His after story had plenty of cute moments... And im so glad that he stopped being a tyran and treats Azuma well. You better treasure him. I like all their cgs together, they are very hot/cute. It doesnt erase that he ra/ped Azuma on the island (and still never apologized.........) but he will spend the rest of his life loving Azuma and treating him good, so lets get what we can get. Azumas life as Matsudas bf will be way better than as Takaras/Mitsugis bf because its the only route where Azuma isnt the slave of his LI lmaooo. Their relationship is way more equal and "healthy" compared to the other 2. ANd i like the fact that Matsuda only hits Azuma during s3x if he is the one asking for it. And i love when Azuma strangled Matsuda during one H scene... Like, you go king !!!! strangle that b!tch!!!! he doesnt deserve oxygen. Matsuda accepting Azuma being violent to him in return is something im glad to see. Speaking about h scenes, i certainly didnt expect to have a whole view of Matsudas asshole and butt/thighs, but im not complaining. Idk how biaised i am but i like their H scenes, thats the only ones i found hot + Matsuda is hot too. I like his voice/appearance/attitude. On a side note, Matsuda/Azuma as backpackers is so cute and suits them well. I also liked that Matsuda ended up bonding with Ogino over how cute Azuma is (even if Azuma was just completely excluded from the convo...). It was good to see Ogino too. He is annoying and forcefully invites himself/cant read the room, but he isnt a bad dude.

Mitsugi : ohmygod. Where to start ? Ill go with the good points first. He is less insufferable than in the og game, and he finally has different voice tones. Also, thank you Azuma for putting his hair in a ponytail, he looks so much better with his hair tied! Btw, the cg of Azuma tying Mitsugis hair is my fav cg of his route. Generally speaking most of the Mitsugi cgs look better in Musubi than in the og game, i think his face is better AND the tied hair is way better. Finally, we have cgs of Mitsugi smiling at Azuma. And finally, Mitsugi has some cute moments with Azuma : when theyr are in the cemetary the scene was cute especially when Mitsugi tells Azuma that NO he isnt a loser and that he loves him. Im glad it happened, because Mitsugi kept diminishing him. The idea of Mitsugi building a home just for the 2 of them is very cute too. Azuma teases Mitsugi more too, even if its very light. For the reverse routes, its interesting to know that one of the reasons Mitsugi was so mean to Azuma in the first game was because he was physically attracted to him but he wasnt at peace with it. It makes his actions a little less annoying and im happy to know he got scared that Azuma was drowning when he pushed him in the lake, because in the og game it almost looked like he didnt care about almost killing him... Thats it for the good points.
Now for the rest... Well, i still hate him. When we are told that he invites Azuma to his place so that he can clean up for him?? It reminds me of those IRL men who invite their gf or mom their apartment so that they can do their chores for them. I find it so despicable. Even without that, i personnally think that inviting people over to an apartment which is just a big trashcan is just disrespectful. He isnt even sorry for it, not one bit. Azuma has to do EVERYTHING for him : he makes his food, he has to buy the groceries, he does his laundry, he cleans up the whole place and he doesnt even get a thank you. Because no, Mitsugi telling Azuma that "his food is always delicious" once doesnt make up for everything. Poor Azuma has the bar so low that Mitsugi saying the food was good was the nicest interaction they had in a while... Not only does Mitsugi expect Azuma to do everything for him, he doesnt even make the slightest effort to not transform his place in a dumpster ? He still doesnt put his clothes away, still throws his trash on the ground, because he knows that in a few days his slav... uh sorry his "lover" will clean up everything for him whatever happens. Also, when they start having s3x and Azuma gets to worry about more stuff being dirty, i got so mad when Mistugi told him to "just do one more laundry" like omg go fck yourself Mitsugi ? Cant you do anything with those 2 arms of yours ? Instead of giving even more work to Azuma. The way Mitsugi thinks Azuma being at his service is normal just makes my blood boil. I really have the impression that im following a basic straight couple (well except that Azuma gets to orgasm at least). Speaking about H scenes, i still dont find their scenes particularily good and i still dont get what Mitsugi does that would make him very good at s3x. Azuma is always cute but Mitsugi is just meh. I really dont find him hot. One good thing in one of their H scenes tho is Mitsugi telling Azuma that its so great that he produces that much liquid during s3x. This was nice, especially since Azuma gets embarassed by it even tho it can only help him having more enjoyable intercourse. Besides the fact that Azuma gets to enjoy s3x, the rest of their relationship is so bad. One of the cgs and supposedly "cute" moment being Mitsugi trying to prepare dinner and just destroying everything says it all. How is it cute ? He only offered to do it so that he could fuck it up to say to Azuma "uh now you see im bad at it!!! thats why YOU have to do it!!". He didnt even try to make it good, he just didnt care about what Azuma told him and/or thought he knew better than him whatever, its all bad anyway. Thank you Mitsugi for destroying the food AZUMA had bought, for forcing AZUMA to cook again and for giving AZUMA even more work because you didnt even want to clean up the big mess you made !!!!!! how romantic !!! what a fantastic couple !!! oh and we are supposed to find this scene cute because Mitsugi kissed Azuma to make him shut up and do the cooking/dishes !!!! for fucks sake... If i wanted to see a very bad straight couple dynamic ill just be going to my parents apartment for the weekend, thank you. Thank god Azuma cant get pregnant because im sure Mitsugi would want to impregnate him and then he would 10000% let Azuma handle ALL the work concerning the kids. Even their last scene which is supposed to be very cute falls completely flat. Like, aaaaw how cute Mitsugi and Azuma are saying theyll build their home together to create their own paradise!! Cant wait to see Mitsugi just transforming this new made "paradise" home into a dumpster <333 cant wait to see this "paradise" where Azuma gets to be Mitsugis domestic labor slave for the rest of his life <333333
Whats up with that relationship dynamic ? Is it really this couple we are supposed to root for ? They gave Mitsugi so many plot reveals in the og game and so many "true route" vibes all for him to be this shitty of a boyfriend. At least, with Takara i can see that he is supposed to appeal to a more niche audience and i dont feel forced to like him, but with Mitsugi you can clearly see they wanted people to like him. And it worked, since i saw he is the most popular LI... Sorry but out of all BL games ive played he is one of the worst LIs ive seen. I really dont vibe with him at all. Also, i thought Mitsugi was supposed to not be attracted to his mentor Kotohara because he was "family" ? So whats up with the reverse routes saying that he wants to bang Azuma who also reminds him of his dead father figure ? DId Mitsugi actually want to bang is late mentor then, as opposed to what the og game told us ? I know its not the case but the writing was so confusing here.
Azuma deserves so much better. After everything Azuma has been through, he needs to finally be at peace. Him being a mistreated kid, not having anyone giving him food and him having to take care of himself on his own and then once he became adult the "good" end being him in a relationship with a manchild who doesnt do anything for him and treats him like his domestic slave just doesnt sit right with me.

Ill do Paradise Kiwame. But idk if ill start it now or if ill wait a little. I just hope the LIs will be more likeable lol. I probably need a pause because idk if i can handle mitsugi and takara again
I haven't played (nor plan to) Paradise but damn, your review makes it sound like Mitsugi is an OC for all these incompentent men who believe cause they're "Gods" in bed (they're not) it makes up for their overall uselessness in the relationship lmao.
 
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I haven't played (nor plan to) Paradise but damn, your review makes it sound like Mitsugi is an OC for all these incompentent men who believe cause they're "Gods" in bed (they're not) it makes up for their overall uselessness in the relationship lmao.
Thank you for reading my review haha. Yep, i do hate Mitsugi. But also he is popular so I'd be interested to know what Mitsugi fans like about him so please feel free to defend him!

Another thing i dont like about Mitsugi that i forgot to mention, even tho its very minor : when he moves from his apartment he just wants to throw everything away, so many clothes and stuff that were still new. His apartment became full of trash bags. Do i even need to say that he asked Azuma to throw his stuff away instead of doing it himself lol? I hate this boomer mentality of not having any care about the value of objects and just throwing away stuff which could be either recycled or GIVEN AS DONATIONS for people in need. Its even worse considering Azuma lived in poverty his whole life... Mitsugi threw his whole personal objects away because he "can just buy them again later". Its giving "im throwing away my golden plates because instead of washing them i can just buy them new". Im not talking about a few stuff, im talking about a mountain of trash bags full of pretty clothes and objects in good shape. I hate him idk
 
Hey! Heres what i think about Paradise Musubi
I would love to hear what you guys think about the Paradise LIs, because theres many things i have to say about them
just so youre warned : my review will be full of Mitsugi hate !!! and takara hate

Takara : ill keep it short for him because its the same as his route in the first game, everything is bad and nothing makes sense. There isnt one moment i liked. The relationship with Azuma doesnt make sense, Azuma liking him doesnt make sense, Mitsugi and Matsuda following them abroad doesnt make sense, etc. Im not even complaining about the whole cannibalism thing because i think there should have been ways to make it "hot" or "cute" whatever (especially since cannibalism can be a metaphor for many things), but it isnt the case here. I do find it interesting tho to have a character who looks like a shota but his a top with a huge D. I wouldve liked to see it btw, the contrast between his small frame and his huge D, but too bad we dont get to see it. Seeing his perspective on some reverse stories on the island was nice too like when we got to see some behind the scenes of the murders, but i wished we got to see what he thought once he realized Azuma has been having affairs with Matsuda/Mitsugi. Also, i do find Takaras dad and brother better looking than him. But i do like that on one cg he sticks his tongue out while doing the deed with Azuma, i think it summed him up well idk ? To be honest, i speedran his after story and reverse stories, but i read the key moments. I also did skip a lot of the H scenes too

Matsuda : ngl even after everything on the island i think he is the best bf/husband for Azuma. His after story had plenty of cute moments... And im so glad that he stopped being a tyran and treats Azuma well. You better treasure him. I like all their cgs together, they are very hot/cute. It doesnt erase that he ra/ped Azuma on the island (and still never apologized.........) but he will spend the rest of his life loving Azuma and treating him good, so lets get what we can get. Azumas life as Matsudas bf will be way better than as Takaras/Mitsugis bf because its the only route where Azuma isnt the slave of his LI lmaooo. Their relationship is way more equal and "healthy" compared to the other 2. ANd i like the fact that Matsuda only hits Azuma during s3x if he is the one asking for it. And i love when Azuma strangled Matsuda during one H scene... Like, you go king !!!! strangle that b!tch!!!! he doesnt deserve oxygen. Matsuda accepting Azuma being violent to him in return is something im glad to see. Speaking about h scenes, i certainly didnt expect to have a whole view of Matsudas asshole and butt/thighs, but im not complaining. Idk how biaised i am but i like their H scenes, thats the only ones i found hot + Matsuda is hot too. I like his voice/appearance/attitude. On a side note, Matsuda/Azuma as backpackers is so cute and suits them well. I also liked that Matsuda ended up bonding with Ogino over how cute Azuma is (even if Azuma was just completely excluded from the convo...). It was good to see Ogino too. He is annoying and forcefully invites himself/cant read the room, but he isnt a bad dude.

Mitsugi : ohmygod. Where to start ? Ill go with the good points first. He is less insufferable than in the og game, and he finally has different voice tones. Also, thank you Azuma for putting his hair in a ponytail, he looks so much better with his hair tied! Btw, the cg of Azuma tying Mitsugis hair is my fav cg of his route. Generally speaking most of the Mitsugi cgs look better in Musubi than in the og game, i think his face is better AND the tied hair is way better. Finally, we have cgs of Mitsugi smiling at Azuma. And finally, Mitsugi has some cute moments with Azuma : when theyr are in the cemetary the scene was cute especially when Mitsugi tells Azuma that NO he isnt a loser and that he loves him. Im glad it happened, because Mitsugi kept diminishing him. The idea of Mitsugi building a home just for the 2 of them is very cute too. Azuma teases Mitsugi more too, even if its very light. For the reverse routes, its interesting to know that one of the reasons Mitsugi was so mean to Azuma in the first game was because he was physically attracted to him but he wasnt at peace with it. It makes his actions a little less annoying and im happy to know he got scared that Azuma was drowning when he pushed him in the lake, because in the og game it almost looked like he didnt care about almost killing him... Thats it for the good points.
Now for the rest... Well, i still hate him. When we are told that he invites Azuma to his place so that he can clean up for him?? It reminds me of those IRL men who invite their gf or mom their apartment so that they can do their chores for them. I find it so despicable. Even without that, i personnally think that inviting people over to an apartment which is just a big trashcan is just disrespectful. He isnt even sorry for it, not one bit. Azuma has to do EVERYTHING for him : he makes his food, he has to buy the groceries, he does his laundry, he cleans up the whole place and he doesnt even get a thank you. Because no, Mitsugi telling Azuma that "his food is always delicious" once doesnt make up for everything. Poor Azuma has the bar so low that Mitsugi saying the food was good was the nicest interaction they had in a while... Not only does Mitsugi expect Azuma to do everything for him, he doesnt even make the slightest effort to not transform his place in a dumpster ? He still doesnt put his clothes away, still throws his trash on the ground, because he knows that in a few days his slav... uh sorry his "lover" will clean up everything for him whatever happens. Also, when they start having s3x and Azuma gets to worry about more stuff being dirty, i got so mad when Mistugi told him to "just do one more laundry" like omg go fck yourself Mitsugi ? Cant you do anything with those 2 arms of yours ? Instead of giving even more work to Azuma. The way Mitsugi thinks Azuma being at his service is normal just makes my blood boil. I really have the impression that im following a basic straight couple (well except that Azuma gets to orgasm at least). Speaking about H scenes, i still dont find their scenes particularily good and i still dont get what Mitsugi does that would make him very good at s3x. Azuma is always cute but Mitsugi is just meh. I really dont find him hot. One good thing in one of their H scenes tho is Mitsugi telling Azuma that its so great that he produces that much liquid during s3x. This was nice, especially since Azuma gets embarassed by it even tho it can only help him having more enjoyable intercourse. Besides the fact that Azuma gets to enjoy s3x, the rest of their relationship is so bad. One of the cgs and supposedly "cute" moment being Mitsugi trying to prepare dinner and just destroying everything says it all. How is it cute ? He only offered to do it so that he could fuck it up to say to Azuma "uh now you see im bad at it!!! thats why YOU have to do it!!". He didnt even try to make it good, he just didnt care about what Azuma told him and/or thought he knew better than him whatever, its all bad anyway. Thank you Mitsugi for destroying the food AZUMA had bought, for forcing AZUMA to cook again and for giving AZUMA even more work because you didnt even want to clean up the big mess you made !!!!!! how romantic !!! what a fantastic couple !!! oh and we are supposed to find this scene cute because Mitsugi kissed Azuma to make him shut up and do the cooking/dishes !!!! for fucks sake... If i wanted to see a very bad straight couple dynamic ill just be going to my parents apartment for the weekend, thank you. Thank god Azuma cant get pregnant because im sure Mitsugi would want to impregnate him and then he would 10000% let Azuma handle ALL the work concerning the kids. Even their last scene which is supposed to be very cute falls completely flat. Like, aaaaw how cute Mitsugi and Azuma are saying theyll build their home together to create their own paradise!! Cant wait to see Mitsugi just transforming this new made "paradise" home into a dumpster <333 cant wait to see this "paradise" where Azuma gets to be Mitsugis domestic labor slave for the rest of his life <333333
Whats up with that relationship dynamic ? Is it really this couple we are supposed to root for ? They gave Mitsugi so many plot reveals in the og game and so many "true route" vibes all for him to be this shitty of a boyfriend. At least, with Takara i can see that he is supposed to appeal to a more niche audience and i dont feel forced to like him, but with Mitsugi you can clearly see they wanted people to like him. And it worked, since i saw he is the most popular LI... Sorry but out of all BL games ive played he is one of the worst LIs ive seen. I really dont vibe with him at all. Also, i thought Mitsugi was supposed to not be attracted to his mentor Kotohara because he was "family" ? So whats up with the reverse routes saying that he wants to bang Azuma who also reminds him of his dead father figure ? DId Mitsugi actually want to bang is late mentor then, as opposed to what the og game told us ? I know its not the case but the writing was so confusing here.
Azuma deserves so much better. After everything Azuma has been through, he needs to finally be at peace. Him being a mistreated kid, not having anyone giving him food and him having to take care of himself on his own and then once he became adult the "good" end being him in a relationship with a manchild who doesnt do anything for him and treats him like his domestic slave just doesnt sit right with me.

Ill do Paradise Kiwame. But idk if ill start it now or if ill wait a little. I just hope the LIs will be more likeable lol. I probably need a pause because idk if i can handle mitsugi and takara again
Btw i want to add that when i say that Matsuda is a good husband to Azuma i mean in Musubi only!!!!!!! not in the og game ofc. In the og game, all the romance is bad and all 3 are terrible LIs imo. I wanted Azuma to date the Matsuda before he went berserk (so the Matsuda of the other routes and the Matsuda before he started beating others). And in Musubi it looks like Azuma is dating this Matsuda, the one who was reliable and took care of others. Thats why i love his Musubi route, because i can gaslight myself into thinking my wish came true. In Musubi he isnt abusive at all and he acts like an actual lover. We also know that he will never hit Azuma without his consent anymore and that he will treat him well in general. Its even more frustrating to me that in the og game they made him into an abuser midway because his after story isnt the continuation of his abusive second personnality AT ALL but the continuation of the nice Matsuda. So, why make him an abuser at the end of his route if its to stick to his trustworthy reassuring figure in the following ? the writing doesnt make any sense.
Also, its the only after story where Azuma isnt completely submitted. He gets to decide for himself and he isnt Matsudas slave. In Takaras route, he is Takaras literal slave/object, and in Mitsugis route he is his domestic labor slave who gets to be happy when Mitsugi shows crumbs of gratefulness. I find it terrible to see. Knowing all the horrible stuff he had to live as a child and in general too i want him to end up with someone who is able to take care of himself and of Azuma too, someone who is reassuring and nice to him. What is sad is that the only one who fits this description is one of the LI who ra/ped him in the og game. Please let Azuma have a good boyfriend !!


If theres something i didnt get about Mitsugis character please lmk, because i find it surprising that im the only one hating on him

Idk if i should get my hopes up for Paradise Kiwame or not. Im hoping the LIs will be better and the writing more coherent but im probably delulu. Anyway, as long as i get a good time playing its still fine ig
 
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I'm also a Kyouichiro (taishou möbiusline) fan since he's very sweet :) but also Aoba will always have my love... he really slayed so hard...
I liked Haru (no thank you) also since he felt like a very different character from the usual archetypes with a strong sense of what he wants
 
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Finished Shirasu's best ending route from Tokyo 24-ku.

I definitely liked his route much more than my previous one from this VN, it felt like Sonogi was much more into him than he was into Asuma and they also had much better chemistry together. Also that possessive sex scene was so hot 🥵 (granted Shirasu's jealousy/possessiveness kinda came out of nowhere during the H scene, ironically it was Tademaru who kept throwing jealousy tantrums in his route. Sonogi said at one point that Shirasu purposefully trolling Tademaru with a text message was supposed to be a sign of his jealousy but I didn't really feel his jealousy in that scene, guess I would've liked less subtle displays of jealousy from him.) Granted I preferred it when it seemed like the suicide case was about Shirasu trying to avenge a deceased lover, I didn't like the twist that apparently no, Sonogi just gaslighted himself into thinking it was about a deceased lover when instead it was about a random dude who indirectly helped Shirasu reconcile with his dad. This twist made the plot of his route feel much weaker to me. Also the pacing of his route also started feeling off to me towards the end. Granted it was still am enjoyable route to me.
 
How hard it the Japanese in 24-ku? I've always wanted to read it but the political kanji and jukugo look scary U.U I don't know much about Japan internal politics
 
How hard it the Japanese in 24-ku? I've always wanted to read it but the political kanji and jukugo look scary U.U I don't know much about Japan internal politics
At the beginning it's difficult lol. But on the bright side, if you learn the vocab once then the same words will keep coming up over and over again
 
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Ill do Paradise Kiwame. But idk if ill start it now or if ill wait a little. I just hope the LIs will be more likeable lol. I probably need a pause because idk if i can handle mitsugi and takara again
kiwame for me is what really tied the series together, it stops taking itself seriously and just kinda embraces the weird and I love it for that despite everyones flaws XD. Azuma is such a special lad just suroundend by so much "what the fuck" but he himself is dumb enough to take it in stride. He is legit the only protaganist that makes sence for the setting because everyone else would be to smart to put up with the games bullshit. I hope you enjoy kiwame, Matsuda kinda gets a redemtion arc in it and honestly the extra couple of character routes i thought were pretty fun! It probably has the most brutal bad endings of the series tho so fair warning for that!
 
Are Adelta's games really that bad? I saw a lot of criticism towards their games and the reviews are polarising. They are either very positive or extremely negative, so I don't know what to think about them... I've been considering buying MangaGamer's yaoi visual novel bundle, but I'm hesitant about it because of Adelta's games, even though they seem really interesting to me because of the characters.
 
kiwame for me is what really tied the series together, it stops taking itself seriously and just kinda embraces the weird and I love it for that despite everyones flaws XD. Azuma is such a special lad just suroundend by so much "what the fuck" but he himself is dumb enough to take it in stride. He is legit the only protaganist that makes sence for the setting because everyone else would be to smart to put up with the games bullshit. I hope you enjoy kiwame, Matsuda kinda gets a redemtion arc in it and honestly the extra couple of character routes i thought were pretty fun! It probably has the most brutal bad endings of the series tho so fair warning for that!
i started it !!! i may do a proper review later ! i did a few routes (Matsuda and shimada) and so far everyone seems to be better than in the og game
poor Azuma... he deserves a good husband!!
what did you think about the 3 main LIs ? In the og game+Musubi and in Kiwame, because it seems that the LIs are quite different in Kiwame compared to the og game