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AI art in otome games

I'm not ok with AI being used to make stuff like music and voices. I'm fine with AI art, maybe because to me it's like stockholder art and I've played ton of games with free visual novel assets like student transfer and other renpy games,so if it's worth I will give a shot. Honestly AI music is dumb to me because there is copyright free music for visual novels and some artists are fine with it as long as they get a shout-out.
 
I say I am definitely not a fan of AI generated content in any video game I play, otome game or otherwise, as I prefer that real humans be involved in the production of art in general. Even in regards to art that isn't the highest quality, I appreciate it having the artist's experience and emotions and personality embedded into it way more than any AI generated images that can appear high quality at first glance. Plus, I support artists getting paid to produce art rather than using AI powered by data centers that are sucking up exorbitant amounts of power and water at an alarming rate. I would also echo what ishibashi said about AI voices as well!
 
actually i kinda agree with your thoughts on this topic, at least in some way! sorry in advance if my response comes off as preachy or something, its absolutely not my goal, love&peace!!!

i think non-generative ai can be used to lessen workload in some completely technical aspects that dont require any creative input or other use of actual human intelligence, and if ai becomes more sustainable, im not that against this particular use of it.

generative ai, sadly, is already entangled in too many controversies... i think the most okay way of its use is when an artist feeds only their own art into ai and uses the outcome for their needs; at least noones art is getting stolen in that case. still, its hella bad for the environment etc etc. and almost no generative ai modules are used like that, especially by the broad public.

overall, i think that in a case of ai use being disguised in some way, it becomes less of an aesthetic and even more of an ethical question for me. so, i will try not to engage with works where ai is used even partially, no matter how well-hidden.

firstly, i dont want to support disrespect for artists whose works couldve been scraped for an ai model, as a fan and as an artist myself (irrelevant in case of someone's own work used, as i mentioned, but idk seems easier to commission someone). also i think that use of ai in places where peoples passion, creativity and intelligence are required can lead to some kind of degradation. we need to challenge ourselves to improve, some things just shouldnt be simplified. creative process is not only something that cant be replicated by a machine, but also is necessary for our development as sentient beings. (black companies that make their artists work without a chance to breathe are a whole other problem)
lets all draw otoge cgs together☺️🫶
Thank you for taking your time answering ❤️. I do agree on many points. For once, the ethics of training data used on genAI model. You need massive amount of data to train the model, so no artist can use them without exploiting the collected works of authors without permissions.

Also from personal experience even usage of such tools even for technical parts can lessen your learning progress.

What I am a bit worried about is how well disclosure of using Ai will be handled legislatively. Since Ai in broader sense can be also some common tools in photoshop that are here for ages.

Not sure it will ever come to that, but recent development made the genAI in some cases almost unrecognisable. What if it come to the point we no longer can tell? Then we will have to just trust the author honest disclosure of (not) using genAI. But if he is honest, it will hurt the sales, so he has incentive to be silent.

So tl;dr I do agree with ya all, but I hope usage of the genAI disclosure would not be on binary case (Y or N), but will be written down on what the technology was used on. 🧎
 
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unfortunately in my case this game had a interesting ideia, I played without knowing at first because it was made by a big company. it still is on play store I believe, what is sucg a chame because is not commum visual novels based on reality shows
 
Honestly, the market is flooded with mass-produced content, and I find the uncanny, distinct look of AI-generated art absolutely repulsive. I'd much rather see developers put effort into hand-drawn art or commission professional illustrators instead of cutting corners. Using AI for basic sketches or brainstorming is one thing, but if the whole game is filled with AI art, I might as well just pay for an AI tool and generate it myself. Why should I pay a premium to see AI-generated images? To be honest, I've never seen an AI-driven game that actually had decent gameplay or fun mechanics.
 
Honestly, the market is flooded with mass-produced content, and I find the uncanny, distinct look of AI-generated art absolutely repulsive. I'd much rather see developers put effort into hand-drawn art or commission professional illustrators instead of cutting corners. Using AI for basic sketches or brainstorming is one thing, but if the whole game is filled with AI art, I might as well just pay for an AI tool and generate it myself. Why should I pay a premium to see AI-generated images? To be honest, I've never seen an AI-driven game that actually had decent gameplay or fun mechanics.
you took the words right out of my mouth. especially the last part, i've found that typically if the developers are willing to cut corners in the art department, they are just as willing to cut corners in other places and their games end up feeling like underdeveloped cashgrabs with no actual thought or care put into the gameplay/mechanics/story. so even if the many ethical issues with using AI art didn't exist, i still wouldn't support anything with AI art in it.
 
depends on how it was used. its one thing if an artist had their own module trained on their own art to help them w stuff, but lets be real that is NOT how its being used 99% of the time.

not gonna support stuff that is trained by scraping fellow artists work, wether its art writing music etc.
 
When I encounter works labeled as AI, I choose to avoid them; out of sight, out of mind. What I fear more is a work in which AI is involved in the creation, but I am unaware of it at first, only realizing halfway through that certain parts were created by AI. This is something I find hard to tolerate.
 
I'd so much rather play a game with ""bad"" art drawn by someone than a game with AI art because then I'd feel like they're actually putting effort into their game. I wish more people would be okay with their own art or writing being kinda bad, at least it gives you something to improve. And I get that not everyone feels that way because more people are likely to give something a pass if they don't like the art.

Also I 100% agree with the fear of playing something and not knowing they used AI to generate things, that just feels so icky.
 
Absolutely not, I would never support a developer that uses AI in any form. It kills all of my motivation to want to try any media it's used in. Human made art has so much more soul in addition to AI art simply being stolen human art regurgitated into a combined soulless mess of image/video/audio.
 
Never absolutely never I despise ai art in Otome games :( I am NO I wouldn't call myself an artist but I draw sometimes and AI art look so unhunan for me like it's lacking the depth and human emotions
 
I still prefer something other than AI. I'm also concerned about the fact that it's invading the artist's domain, but I'm scared of incorporating new technology, which doesn't have a clear line of demarcation, into commercial works. I don't know what the future holds, but for now I'm against it.
 
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I hate all forms of genAI, really, so I'd never buy a game that mentioned they used it in the creation of stock assets since it would be taking jobs away from real human artists too.
 
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I'd so much rather play a game with ""bad"" art drawn by someone than a game with AI art because then I'd feel like they're actually putting effort into their game. I wish more people would be okay with their own art or writing being kinda bad, at least it gives you something to improve. And I get that not everyone feels that way because more people are likely to give something a pass if they don't like the art.

Also I 100% agree with the fear of playing something and not knowing they used AI to generate things, that just feels so icky.
Same I would rather play something made by a person no matter how "bad" the art might be. AI art might look more "pretty" but there is a kind of soulless feeling to it. If the creator couldn't be bothered to put in effort to actually make it, why would I put in time to play it. Plus I usually end up really liking or appreciating the so called "bad" art or writing because there is a very human charm to them.
 
ah, generative ai strikes something I love once again... i never knew it was getting involved with otome games.

my opinion is that ai is very unethical in relation to artists and their work (and that i also find it ugly most of the time). you can almost tell the lack of human aspects in ai generated assets (music/art/whatever creative works apply) from looking at it, and artists work is fed to these ai that generate assets without giving back to the artists that made it possible! i understand ai usage in other ways, but i find generated assets to be distasteful at their best... not to mention how it will inevitably be used by greedy companies that don't want to pay artists for their hard work :(
 
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I have always said if you're not gonna spend the time to make it why would I spend my time to consume it. I would never play a game with Ai or support any developers thinking of using Ai.
 
Big no for me. AI is stealing artists work to imitate them, and you can tell has no soul behind the work. Especially for AI voice acting, it sounds so off and flat. I will always support real artists and block any AI accounts or AI games from my feed.
 
AI is causing so much damage in the art community, especially when used in literal main components of the game. Mostly generative AI is a no no for me, other AI tools are okay, I guess.
 
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