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Question where does joseimuke yuri go?

ninnikuryona

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hi! i already asked the otome moderator, blackflag, about it, but thought that getting the admins input would be good as well

so, theoretically, i might be interested in uploading yuri audios from dlsite. however, they are part of the joseimuke/garumani section of dlsite, which makes them female-oriented. the otome corner on asf currently covers otome, bl, occasional amare, and some hetero joseimuke games. now, im obviously not asking to create a whole new yuri prefix, since the yuri scene is extremely niche, and joseimuke yuri even more so, so this would be a very egoistical request. still, even though they are female-oriented, i wonder what i should do with these audios. put them in the general hentai section, where non-female-oriented yuri recides? or otome section with big [YURI] tag in post title?

thank you for your attention, and im sorry if its inappropriate!
 
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Really? joseimuke that target female audience? That must be TIL (Today I Learn). I'll ask my Flower expert farmer friend and see what he thought first.
 
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Checkmate said:
Really? joseimuke that target female audience? That must be TIL (Today I Learn). I'll ask my Flower expert farmer friend and see what he thought first.
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not just joseimuke, but specifically yuri! which is why im confused w
 
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Yeah I mean joseimuke yuri.

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ninnikuryona said:
now, im obviously not asking to create a whole new yuri prefix
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If I may say something, I think the forum really needs a yuri prefix. It's a niche, but there should be an enough number of products to justify having their own tag.

Right now there are yuri games (or games with yuri elements) in the Miscellaneous section that have no tag, and I think it'll be useful to have its own category, like we already have BxG (the default and many other hentai games), GxB, BxB, but why not GxG... or maybe people here aren't that interested in yuri? idk, maybe there should be a poll or something

And if "yuri" were to be added into the Otome/Joseimuke section, I wonder what would be the criteria to separate joseimuke yuri from ... well, other yuri?
Because in the past I've already seen people requesting yuri and other general visual novels in the otome section, they all got moved into the Misc section afterward.
If the "yuri" tag indeed gets added, what's stopping people from requesting every yuri product under the sun in the Otome area...?
 
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Hello,

My friend came back with his expert opinion, first of all he confirms that all of this was truth, it's actually not that niche either, rather, and I quote:

yes, and it isn't "extremely niche"; comic yuri hime is the poster girl for yuri manga (monthly magazine) and its byline is "justice for girls" plus it has a girls talk section
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And that's from our former admin @Ignis.

That said, you can manually prefix it with [Yuri] for now and post it in the Queendom of Otome (Otome Plaza).

If there's more content like these, I can add the official prefix [Yuri] but if it's just a few, then I'd not bother.
 
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selinee said:
Right now there are yuri games (or games with yuri elements) in the Miscellaneous section that have no tag, and I think it'll be useful to have its own category, like we already have BxG (the default and many other hentai games), GxB, BxB, but why not GxG... or maybe people here aren't that interested in yuri? idk, maybe there should be a poll or something
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The Misc section is actually really the place for all ages stuff, since the all ages is really unpopular back then, and we didn't want to mix it with the other R18 content, we kinda put everything AA in there.

Yuri, if R18 rated, will go into the general other R18 section.

The only exception was Voice products, which was created at a much later period where it has a healthy mix of AA and R18 content
 
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selinee said:
And if "yuri" were to be added into the Otome/Joseimuke section, I wonder what would be the criteria to separate joseimuke yuri from ... well, other yuri?
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as i mentioned in my initial post, at the very least, dlsite has tags like yuri/girls love and lesbian, and there are works under these tags that are published on the garumani side of dlsite. moreover, as for audios, あなた (you) is a character specifically for the listener to selfinsert into, just like in otome audios. so at the very least, i feel like these works should go into the otome/joseimuke section. this only applies to dlsite and products where the selfinsert character is intended to be a woman at least
it would be difficult to decide for games and visual novels, because usually they are aimed at general audience, or the audience is not fleshed out enough to draw a conclusion. so i guess games can still go into misc?
 
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Checkmate said:
Yuri, if R18 rated, will go into the general other R18 section.

The only exception was Voice products, which was created at a much later period where it has a healthy mix of AA and R18 content
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so, r18 yuri audios are allowed to be posted in otome corner?
 
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Checkmate said:
The Misc section is actually really the place for all ages stuff, since the all ages is really unpopular back then, and we didn't want to mix it with the other R18 content, we kinda put everything AA in there.

Yuri, if R18 rated, will go into the general other R18 section.

The only exception was Voice products, which was created at a much later period where it has a healthy mix of AA and R18 content
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The Misc section has grown a lot, and I didn't realize Yuri products are scattered across different sections like that :unsure: Will there be any consideration to add a yuri tag in the future?

Now with joseimuke yuri too, it looks like every area has yuri... but it still doesn't have its own tag.
If it's too much work then I apologize, I only thought the genre itself is "different" enough to warrant a separate prefix like Otome/BL.
 
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Checkmate said:
It should go into the downloads section instead, the Corner is for discussion:
If it's Voices? Or is it official works?
https://www.anime-sharing.com/forums/otome-doujinshi-voices-misc.154/
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yes sorry i meant the download section! ww they all add up to just "otome corner" in my mind so i mixed them up, sorry for the confusion! and thank you for the reply!
it would be nice to add a yuri prefix, because although it is niche, theres still lots of content. especially on western side! and id be more than happy if it would motivate people to support and seek out more yuri. still though, if it gets updated like once a year, i dont think theres any need to add it. but then again, since there are already otome and bl prefixes, why not yuri?
 
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selinee said:
Will there be any consideration to add a yuri tag in the future?
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It's a very broad term, for example, Yuri games, yuri drama cd, yuri voices, yuri manga, yuri OVAs, and each of them had to go to the nature of the product. So it's quite inefficient to add a Yuri tag in it.

Also, plenty of bookstores in Japan that sell manga commonly have a BL corner, but not a GL (girl love) corner.
 
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It's a very broad term, for example, Yuri games, yuri drama cd, yuri voices, yuri manga, yuri OVAs, and each of them had to go to the nature of the product. So it's quite inefficient to add a Yuri tag in it.
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but there are separate prefixes for voices and ovas though? and theyre used for otome and bl and general hentai threads too. also, bara content is aimed at male audience, yet it gets posted to the otome downloads with bl prefix, because its still technically bl. just not female-oriented haha
 
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Checkmate said:
It's a very broad term, for example, Yuri games, yuri drama cd, yuri voices, yuri manga, yuri OVAs, and each of them had to go to the nature of the product. So it's quite inefficient to add a Yuri tag in it.

Also, plenty of bookstores in Japan that sell manga commonly have a BL corner, but not a GL (girl love) corner.
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With all due respect isn't it the same for other genres 😅 For BxG, or Otome, BL we have a variety of games, CDs, manga and OVAs too.

I also agree with ninnikuryona that in the West there are yuri creators/developers dedicated to making games of such genre. That said I haven't counted the number, and I'm not aware how many are in the R18 section because I don't visit there... (it's a bit much to sift through all the hetero R18 stuff to find yuri)

I'll wait for blackflag's decision too
 
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Checkmate said:
@ninnikuryona How many joseimuke yuri content are you planning to post btw? Mostly audio?
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mostly audio for now ye. my internet is shit though so i still need time to actually upload it to my accounts, but yeah im mostly interested in voice works for now. however, now that i look at it there is also some yuri manga on garumani side, so is it worth discussing too?
 
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selinee said:
That said I haven't counted the number, and I'm not aware how many are in the R18 section because I don't visit there...
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this is not related to the forum itself, but as for general yuri, for the west we have ebi-hime (mix of genres), studio elan (yuri) and standalone creators like nadia nova (who mostly writes trans yuri, mostly free too). not to mention other indie devs, like nomnomnami etc etc. all of them add up to quite a number of yuri games. if you buy and upload all of them they should make up quite a hefty amount of works!
 
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I dont mind having a yuri tag as long as the games gaze -is- female and not moeslop.
 
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blackflag said:
I dont mind having a yuri tag as long as the games gaze -is- female and not moeslop.
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unfortunately im not sure if explicitly joseimuke yuri games exist..:( since theyre either aimed at broad audience (like flowers series) or male audience (like manakashi). i wonder if there are some on freem/novelgame though! because dlsite so far only showed me dramacd and manga.. ill do my best to contribute..!
 
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