i'm the same way haha i prefer japanese otome over indie vns ... but they can be fun to play and being free is a bonus :P i recently enjoyed big bad dogs from itch.io and i like that it specifically discusses the sexism/experience of being a woman in the 2000s but it's also still a wip so be warned</3
omg yay i'm not alone!! i think the yanderes i like most end up being in a lot of josei manga where they have free reign to be terrible people haha. idk if we're both thinking of boyfriend to death for western yangire? i enjoyed playing ofc but i like a bit more romance as a personal preference
my roommate really likes the art for the kid at the back but i have mixed opinions about the plot -- but agree 100% it's worth a play and i hope we get to see more nsfw yandere otome :D
i've only played a little bit of college craze and stopped but there's a yandere? tell me more...
i've also heard a bit about miside! my prof told me to play it LOL is this a sign?
OOO what were your mixed opinions apt the kid in the back?
Yep! totally boyfriend to death! I personally haven't played it, but I did look into it cuz I heard how famous it was. I didn't even know it was labeled as yandere but any yandere that kills the MC bc he doesn't want anyone to get her, is less of the yandere Im interested in
Yeah so in college craze the yandere is the
stalker type that stalks MC and harasses her, but his face isn't shown yet, only voice
wait omg yes that one!! i had the exact same complaint!! all of the male mc's love interests looked so much more interesting i was really jealous... the differentiation also makes no sense me because wouldn't it be much better for fans to be able to pursue all the routes freely? there are ofc some people who will do both routes regardless but i'm someone who only wants to play as a girl if i have the option... i mean for that reason i haven't played any galge besides fate/hollow ataraxia but since i don't know much abt them anyways i'll buy into your conspiracy 100%!
Oh, I know which game you guys are talking about (and I did back it because what can I say, I was definitely baited by the male MC's LIs and I enjoyed the demo a lot)!
I'm in the Discord for the game and the short explanation for the split being like that is that both MCs and their respective routes and LIs are written by different writers and all characters have a set sexuality—like the male MC is gay so that's why he only has male LIs, and there's one LI in the fem MC's route who's straight, for example. Even as a gay guy myself, I kind of wish it wasn't the case and the male MC had at least one fem LI to make the LI gender ratio more even, but I feel at that point it's more or less a "me problem".
In that way it feels more like a good ol' visual novel that happens to have a bunch of diff romances than something I'd actually call amare where anything goes and you can go for whoever you want regardless of the MC's gender. Which, in turn, makes me think it shouldn't be tagged like that and it unfortunately does the game a disservice to be tagged as something that makes people have clear expectations for in regards to genre. It's a shame since I really like what's been put out so far, but oh well.
Now to get to the thread's actual topic: I haven't played any western otome with yandere dudes (or any western otome, now that I think about it, hm...) so I admit I'm out of my depth here, but I HAVE been exposed to the entire western yandere discourse of olde followed by western takes on what they call yanderes and it's laughable LMAO. Hearing about the concept of yanderes asking for consent in the first place is making me laugh so hard man, like what's going on?
I think I will echo some sentiment here by saying that in my opinion the western sphere is a bit too anxious about appearing "unproblematic" to the point where it could limit their creativity, and the general takes on the yandere trope I've seen recently echo that. Like, come on, I think you can write a good old yandere, it's just that most normal people draw the line at uber-edgy over the top OCs that seem to have been written by a 12-year-old discovering 4Chan and thinking it's the coolest place on Earth.
I'm not really into the western yanderes, although I've been pleasantly surprised by some here and there. Most western titles are more on the obsessive/jealousy thing than actual "lovesickness" I think. In some male yandere spaces you'll even see some people criticizing yandere characters that physically harm the MC as if they're "not really yandere" (disliking these dynamics is completely fine, everyone has their limits, but to say it's not yandere seems kinda entitled, it's a common trope!). For me most western titles have more in common with dark romance books than the actual yandere archetype. Plenty are way more on the horror side than romance, so fans of actual yandere otome get disappointed with the relationships in those titles
The games are also usually passion projects by one person (or very small teams) who may not have much experience with making games or coding, so the tag is filled with demos and unfinished games. Many probably start when they have plenty of free time, but get busier or find the process harder than they expected, which results in giving into more formulaic stories :(
The games are also usually passion projects by one person (or very small teams) who may not have much experience with making games or coding, so the tag is filled with demos and unfinished games. Many probably start when they have plenty of free time, but get busier or find the process harder than they expected, which results in giving into more formulaic stories :(
i haven't played much so i'm no expert but yes, you said it so well!! the fact these games are done by extremely small teams (or just one person) is something to keep in mind. even if their idea was ambitious, they may find the execution much harder and time consuming than they originally thought it'd be. for many people it's their first ever project too, being rough around the edges is to be expected...
that said, i have a vn i'm looking forward to seeing completed (watch the road) and while not western, i think confession/past hope was interesting. both are amare/chooseable pronouns however!
i've been sitting on this for a while so i'd love to hear if anyone agrees or thinks differently! to preface, i do enjoy playing western otome/amare too -- but i definitely prefer japanese otome far more.
all this to say for the past few years i've noticed a huge uptick in western otome making yandere games -- like a LOT of them -- but i generally don't really vibe with 99% of these entries, or i find them just okay. partially it might just be because i'm expecting a polished, completed game and a lot of these indie games are still in development, but i also think it's because most of these yanderes don't cross as many boundaries as i expect them to. asking for consent is probably the most obvious example i can think of >_<
or when they are hardcore they're more yangire-leaning, which is fine and i enjoy playing those too but i also want to feel like i'm being loved too v_v
i'm not too sure what to think tho and i don't really want to generalize all western otome into one category, so i'm curious if other people have any opinions on the matter!
yes, tsuki-mi! i agree with your post! i've seen a couple people mention tkatb from itch.io and i quite like art style but my roommate has mixed opinions. a common theme with itch.io visual novels is that they never want to cross the line and the ones that do get a lot of hate for not being respectful about consent which defeats the whole purpose for me T^T.
same with stuff like re9. men were whining about how this game is too femgazey, when this is one of the very very VERY few examples of a game with an actually attractive/appealing to women male character that hit the mainstream. like, when a woman expresses her discomfort with a sexualized female character, men tell her to shut up and go create her own sexy male characters, but when women do actually create sexy male characters (leon was discussed a lot with female designers after all), they suddenly feel personally attacked? thats so weak of them ww
i hope you have fun with your ficwriting journey:):) the beauty of creating is precisely that you can bend reality to your own will (read "write selfinserts without a since shred of guilt LOL)
oh my gosh yes!! and also leon is a much beloved character regardless, and he's always been hot so idk what the problem is. i really hate that kind of double standard and i'm glad you brought it up!
and thank youu :D wishing you a lot of fun on your journey too!
i love yanderes but i have to definitely agree, i think western ones are very lacking, and i think it's because western vns either are too focused on making sure it's not as "problematic" (i've seen people talk about green flag yanderes and platonic yanderes which is. LMAOOOO) or they veer into a comically flanderised version of the trope.
also i think in general, western vns lack the build up needed for this trope to really work, since in my experience alot of them tend to be really short. which can work! folie fatale is on the shorter side and is beloved, but that's because it actually does things other than "man loves mc so much he kills people" when it comes to its yandere character
imo the appeal of yanderes is not the whole "i'll kill for you" aspect but moreso the fall into the "yan" of it. western yandere characters are just like that from the get go, but i want build up... i want to see them GET worse, not just be worser
yes!! honestly green flag yandere or platonic yandere is such an oxymoron it goes against basically the whole point of a yandere .. i've seen a lot of entries that are questionably yandere or feel like the tag just got put on there v_v
also thank you for introducing me to folie fatale!! i def will need to play that, i love the summary already. the variety of love interests reminds me of yandere town which i still have some hope will eventually maybe be finished... i would love to see more games that sort of play with the yandere archetypes!
and also YESS i think the slow descent of madness and really understanding how someone can become that crazy over another person is the most interesting part of the genre -- like yes being pursued and desired is fun, but it feels like cheating relationship points or something :(
OOO what were your mixed opinions apt the kid in the back?
Yep! totally boyfriend to death! I personally haven't played it, but I did look into it cuz I heard how famous it was. I didn't even know it was labeled as yandere but any yandere that kills the MC bc he doesn't want anyone to get her, is less of the yandere Im interested in
Yeah so in college craze the yandere is the
stalker type that stalks MC and harasses her, but his face isn't shown yet, only voice
i think most of it is just not feeling strongly about the plot/writing and i'm also not really used to games having grey standins for the mc even though i understand why they're used, but it kind of takes me out of it haha. i'm also not too sure about the setting which is supposed to be university but it's essentially a high school -- i don't think i'd care if it was high school since seniors exist, but trying to straddle the line also makes me a bit hesitant. but i do like how sol has moments where he clearly takes intiative/doesn't ask for consent which is what i like from yanderes!! in fact i wish he did it more HAHA and i really do like his design, but in contrast because he's a little bit of your typical yandere crowe almost seems to be more interesting just as a foil... but hopefully all of that made sense!!
i also think my opinion might change as development goes on so i'm not too set in my thoughts rn x)
yess boyfriend to death!! i think it gets tied in with yandere recs a lot but i would classify it more like yangire since they're more violent than loving imo but they're still fun! i liked gatobob's recent games, price of flesh and you kill me every time as well, but not so much as a romance experience.
and OMG i HAVE to play college craze now, i hope more updates come out soon!! thank you for putting me on :D
Oh, I know which game you guys are talking about (and I did back it because what can I say, I was definitely baited by the male MC's LIs and I enjoyed the demo a lot)!
I'm in the Discord for the game and the short explanation for the split being like that is that both MCs and their respective routes and LIs are written by different writers and all characters have a set sexuality—like the male MC is gay so that's why he only has male LIs, and there's one LI in the fem MC's route who's straight, for example. Even as a gay guy myself, I kind of wish it wasn't the case and the male MC had at least one fem LI to make the LI gender ratio more even, but I feel at that point it's more or less a "me problem".
In that way it feels more like a good ol' visual novel that happens to have a bunch of diff romances than something I'd actually call amare where anything goes and you can go for whoever you want regardless of the MC's gender. Which, in turn, makes me think it shouldn't be tagged like that and it unfortunately does the game a disservice to be tagged as something that makes people have clear expectations for in regards to genre. It's a shame since I really like what's been put out so far, but oh well.
Now to get to the thread's actual topic: I haven't played any western otome with yandere dudes (or any western otome, now that I think about it, hm...) so I admit I'm out of my depth here, but I HAVE been exposed to the entire western yandere discourse of olde followed by western takes on what they call yanderes and it's laughable LMAO. Hearing about the concept of yanderes asking for consent in the first place is making me laugh so hard man, like what's going on?
I think I will echo some sentiment here by saying that in my opinion the western sphere is a bit too anxious about appearing "unproblematic" to the point where it could limit their creativity, and the general takes on the yandere trope I've seen recently echo that. Like, come on, I think you can write a good old yandere, it's just that most normal people draw the line at uber-edgy over the top OCs that seem to have been written by a 12-year-old discovering 4Chan and thinking it's the coolest place on Earth.
oh wow, thank you for the clarification! i didn't know any of this before and i haven't looked into any of it, so i really appreciate you sharing what you know. honestly though i do agree that i wish the male mc had a female love interest as well, so it's more of an "us problem" than just you in that case!
but yes i think the amare tag is not really suitable and gives off a different expectation, especially since amare is specifically about providing the player more agency to feel included ... but well that's just a thought, and i think a lot of people are looking forward to the game regardless, so i don't think it's my place to say anything else since i'm not as active in that community.
also yesss i have played more western yandere games so i have a little more experience with it, but it's funny that even people who don't are familiar with the discourse LOL. i really did wish people felt less tied down by notions of what's "problematic" so there can be more variety and depravity in the genre, which is ... what i want to see ...!! and i feel like it's otome which mostly gets saddled with this expectation, versus BL which has so much more diversity in how freaky they can get. i feel like the most people can accept is a yandere that kills people sometimes :(
I'm not really into the western yanderes, although I've been pleasantly surprised by some here and there. Most western titles are more on the obsessive/jealousy thing than actual "lovesickness" I think. In some male yandere spaces you'll even see some people criticizing yandere characters that physically harm the MC as if they're "not really yandere" (disliking these dynamics is completely fine, everyone has their limits, but to say it's not yandere seems kinda entitled, it's a common trope!). For me most western titles have more in common with dark romance books than the actual yandere archetype. Plenty are way more on the horror side than romance, so fans of actual yandere otome get disappointed with the relationships in those titles
The games are also usually passion projects by one person (or very small teams) who may not have much experience with making games or coding, so the tag is filled with demos and unfinished games. Many probably start when they have plenty of free time, but get busier or find the process harder than they expected, which results in giving into more formulaic stories :(
omg wait yes i don't get the idea of deciding which yandere traits are "okay" to have and what aren't...? there's some stuff i don't personally enjoy but i'd never deride someone for enjoying it because it's healthy to be able to differentiate real life from fiction idk... but now that you mention it yes it does kind of read like dark romance! which is ironic because i feel like dark romance fans tend to be more open minded than some western yandere fans even though they're both meant to be more morbid.
mmm yeah :( i try not to compare with games that come out of studios with lots of funding, but they do end up blurring a bit together for me haha. but that's not to say good games don't come out of these passion projects too and i'm excited to continue playing more and seeing how these games further develop!!
that said, i have a vn i'm looking forward to seeing completed (watch the road) and while not western, i think confession/past hope was interesting. both are amare/chooseable pronouns however!
thank you for the recs!! i'm always excited to play more hehe. the itch page for watch the road is soo pretty i'm a sucker for itch pages with custom css :D
oh wow, thank you for the clarification! i didn't know any of this before and i haven't looked into any of it, so i really appreciate you sharing what you know. honestly though i do agree that i wish the male mc had a female love interest as well, so it's more of an "us problem" than just you in that case!
but yes i think the amare tag is not really suitable and gives off a different expectation, especially since amare is specifically about providing the player more agency to feel included ... but well that's just a thought, and i think a lot of people are looking forward to the game regardless, so i don't think it's my place to say anything else since i'm not as active in that community.
also yesss i have played more western yandere games so i have a little more experience with it, but it's funny that even people who don't are familiar with the discourse LOL. i really did wish people felt less tied down by notions of what's "problematic" so there can be more variety and depravity in the genre, which is ... what i want to see ...!! and i feel like it's otome which mostly gets saddled with this expectation, versus BL which has so much more diversity in how freaky they can get. i feel like the most people can accept is a yandere that kills people sometimes :(
Also, I do agree with you that I tend to see wilder and more diverse stuff when it comes to BL in general. Putting on my tin foil hat here, but I wonder if it's because some people see a guy being a freak with another guy as more palatable and more detached from reality and the authors + audiences' lived realities (afaik BL is still made primarily for women by women), so it's easier to indulge in darker content, but when a woman is involved suddenly it's less comfortable.
At the same time, I've been exposed to enough online discourse to know that people in western fanbases seem very trigger-happy with their accusations, and people are particularly unforgiving towards indie artists and game devs, sometimes putting them on the same level as big corpos. So, I can kind of understand why some people would prefer playing things safe with their games just so they avoid being the topic of "Twitter Discourse #87415 Electric Boogaloo: Male Yanderes are Problematic and Here is Why you Shouldn't Like Them or Write Them Ever (Part 9875)".
Also, I do agree with you that I tend to see wilder and more diverse stuff when it comes to BL in general. Putting on my tin foil hat here, but I wonder if it's because some people see a guy being a freak with another guy as more palatable and more detached from reality and the authors + audiences' lived realities (afaik BL is still made primarily for women by women), so it's easier to indulge in darker content, but when a woman is involved suddenly it's less comfortable.
At the same time, I've been exposed to enough online discourse to know that people in western fanbases seem very trigger-happy with their accusations, and people are particularly unforgiving towards indie artists and game devs, sometimes putting them on the same level as big corpos. So, I can kind of understand why some people would prefer playing things safe with their games just so they avoid being the topic of "Twitter Discourse #87415 Electric Boogaloo: Male Yanderes are Problematic and Here is Why you Shouldn't Like Them or Write Them Ever (Part 9875)".
honestly yes there's a lot to say about BL and fujoshi culture too -- being still a female dominated field, there's a lot of ways in which fetishization is genuinely an issue and should be addressed. i wouldn't be surprised if you're right! i think so much of it is about whoever's creating the content because i believe when women are harmed in genres like ryona, the intended audience is for a male demographic.
ugh you're right about that too, which is such a shame because now no one's happy :') for now i think usually find whatever i'm looking for from japanese otome and western is a nice surprise once in a while. fingers crossed we'll see more of a shift in the severity of online discourse!
omg wait yes i don't get the idea of deciding which yandere traits are "okay" to have and what aren't...? there's some stuff i don't personally enjoy but i'd never deride someone for enjoying it because it's healthy to be able to differentiate real life from fiction idk... but now that you mention it yes it does kind of read like dark romance! which is ironic because i feel like dark romance fans tend to be more open minded than some western yandere fans even though they're both meant to be more morbid.
Yeah, and worst of all some people are very judgmental about what you like or dislike :( a while ago I saw a discussion in a social media site about incest and violence towards MC in yandere media, with the classic "disgusting creeps" and "should have standards" callouts lol. These people probably like the protective/a bit jealous character type, not actual yandere.
The protective/obsessive thing is why many western yandere seem very "dark romance" for me! Male characters in those stories usually have those traits, maybe a stalker, since the genre appeals to a wider audience than yandere (which is still kinda niche I think). I believe the dark romance fans being more open minded is a result of having an older fanbase than anime spaces, many younger teen folks struggle with topics like these, and the witch hunts in some social media sites certainly don't help. It definitely may explain the whole "consent" thing in OELVNs, developers would have a hard time writing about darker stuff haha
that said, i have a vn i'm looking forward to seeing completed (watch the road) and while not western, i think confession/past hope was interesting. both are amare/chooseable pronouns however!
I really enjoyed confession/past hope too! I love the art style and the dynamic. I haven't seen watch the road before, but it does look interesting! I'll keep an eye out for it as well ;)
i went to go read the FAQ after you mentioned it and i don't like it eitherrr omfg it's basically implying BL and otome are shallow even if not intentionally... also idk if i'm being too woke but i get the sense the people who coined the term amare are japanese either so likee ... but that's a whole nother can of worms
and omg nooo i think you might be right :( you reminded me of all the recent love in deepspace controversy going on lol idk if you're familiar with that backlash but western fans don't tend to tolerate much i think? but it's def disappointing to go play a yandere game and not really get what i'm specifically looking for from that kind of content.
also i hope that you're enjoying writing your own stories!!
Westerners really can't tolerate taboo stuff. I play love and deep space and I don't understand why they are suddenly throwing a tantrum about Caleb. I mean it really isn't hidden about how Caleb and the Mc see each other as family, brother and sister since they were raised together. I guess infold shouldn't of tried to censor when his first myth came out on how they tried to change it as childhood friends instead of the sibling dynamic they have. Now they have been using with Caleb to call the Mc 'sister' in recent cards and some don't like it. They are not even blood related and they are giving backlash on how that was always their dynamic. I get it people have different threshold on what they tolerate but doesn't give them the right to act all self-righteous or shame other who like Caleb, the route and the trope. Just don't play his route or don't pull those cards.
Sorry I kind of went on a little rant and went off topic. It's just frustrating that they can't leave people alone to enjoy the game without being told it's a "red flag" or "disgusting" as if there is a right way to play it.
I agree with everything said here. I understand everyone has things they don't like, I respect that. Having boundries is perfectly healthy but at the same time, you have to be aware of the fact that the whole point is that the character is a Yandere with the full meaning of the word. Even so, I feel like many don't fully grasp it when playing a game that does have a yandere love interest and get surprised/offended by what they do.
I do notice how much it's criticized when the Yandere Li crosses boundries, gets violent or kills people close to you when... Isn't that the whole point? In TKaTB I kissed the friend fully knowing that the Li was probably gonna kill him xd Like it feels almost expected that people will judge you for playing a certain game that is courageous enough to cross the line or that I'll find a video when going around social media criticizing whoever likes said LI. It's really frustrating that there's a lack of respect towards likes and dislikes and people are really judgmental when something doesn't fit their criteria. While I do have opinions when it comes to certain topics regarding other things, I feel like I still have no right to shame the other person when we don't agree, especially speaking about TABOO stuff.
It has become a huge trend and I've tried a fair amount of western yandere vn, and I've got to say that they have made me quite disappointed to the point I pretty much don't want to play another again. It was fun at first but after a while it gets repititive and predictable, their "yanderes" are so...flat, they lack character, they lack motivation, they lack strategy, they lack soul, the whole catch is just about them being obsessed with MC for no reason and would kill anyone in their way.
Like you jump into the game and they just appear out of no where claiming "hey I love you so much I would and have killed for you", where's the contemplation, the manipulation, the gas-lighting, the slow degrading to madness??? Drastic measures should be their last option, not default, it feels more realistic than outright chopping someone's head off. THAT'S what makes yanderes attractive, the strain and fear when you can feel something is fucking wrong with this person but you have no idea what.
Or it could just be my preference, I like my yanderes smart and have actual calculations rather than plain violence.
I'm usually not the biggest fan of yandere's. The forceful toxic personalities they have only make me uncomfortable most of the time. Not a fan of so many of them being made.
i think a minor peeve i have with if now that we're on the subject is that sometimes you can just ... kind of tell when they're written w a specific gender in mind? although i guess i'm the problem bc i didn't mind it in wayhaven but i did in poma ... oopsies
Omg fellow POMA enjoyer. This gets me so sad because I'm really into wuxia, but you can tell that they're all made with a male protagonist in mind (POMA, Aura Clash, Dao Ascension). Atp, just give me Tang Ruo, and I'll be happy
It has become a huge trend and I've tried a fair amount of western yandere vn, and I've got to say that they have made me quite disappointed to the point I pretty much don't want to play another again. It was fun at first but after a while it gets repititive and predictable, their "yanderes" are so...flat, they lack character, they lack motivation, they lack strategy, they lack soul, the whole catch is just about them being obsessed with MC for no reason and would kill anyone in their way.
Like you jump into the game and they just appear out of no where claiming "hey I love you so much I would and have killed for you", where's the contemplation, the manipulation, the gas-lighting, the slow degrading to madness??? Drastic measures should be their last option, not default, it feels more realistic than outright chopping someone's head off. THAT'S what makes yanderes attractive, the strain and fear when you can feel something is fucking wrong with this person but you have no idea what.
Or it could just be my preference, I like my yanderes smart and have actual calculations rather than plain violence.
If you're talking about itchio games, they're mostly pet projects made for game jams or to satisfy whatever sparks of inspiration the developer has at that point in time. So the psychological development isn't there because the developer likely has no time/don't care enough to make it longer.
I agree it has become repetitive. They hold a Yandere jam every year now, it's sort of become a trend at this point. There are so many games that are never finished. I would love to see longer and more polished ones.
It seems yanderes in Western games or all just sex offenders instead of actually well written. The only one I've seen that isn't so far is from 14 days with you and Mushroom Oasis. I enjoy a yandere who is complex not just an offender with really good hair.
For me, Binary Star Hero seems like a good example of a well written yandere character in Western otome.
I feel bad for him and I want him to be happy.
Rant Incoming ! ! ! I Will Say This Nicely , They Are Lacking ! ! ! !
Itch.io " Yandere " Visual Novels Are Very Weak As A Yan Enjoyer . There Are Bangers , But Few Can Capture The Basic Essence.
Essentially They Are As Close To Green Flag And Non Offensive As They Can Be. Which Results In Same Behavior, Actions And Beliefs Shared Across These Game Characters That I Can Already See The Entire Plot And Still Be Disappointing By An Already Cliche Enough Genre . I See The Same " John Yandere " Across The Yan Verse . . .
Don't Get Me Started On The Dumb Line That's Never Get Crossed Or Touched Shared Across These Games Like It's A Law ( Might Become An Actual One . . . ) " I Will Stalk, Kill And Confine For You But I Would NEVER EVER Do The Icky Thing Of * Gasp * S - S - S - Sex My Gender Neutral Goddess "
This Would Work With Characters Written That Such Traits Make Sense , BUT There Are Clearly Characters Written That Violate So Much Non Sexual Consent That It's Just Weird Where This Is Where John Yandere Draws The Line With Nothing About It.
Whenever I Play A NSFW Yandere Game I Got To Go On My Knees And Beg With Every Single Choice I Get To Actually Sleep With My MC , So Many Times I Got Select The Yes I Am Consenting Button I Feel Like I Am The Yandere Here With My Victim . . .
Then The Sex . . . I Ain't Fucking John Yandere , I Am Having Intercourse With The Author And It's Mid ! The Ghost Of Boring Smut Is Possesing my Poor John Yandere . . . Save Him ! ! ! I know The Beast Is In There , Let Him Out I Can Take It ! ! !
Why Does Smut / Booktok Get The Crazy Stuff . . . ? Please Authors Come To Visual Novels , You Can Put Words , Pictures And Sound Together . . . Please ! ! ! There Are Only So Many Good Galge That I Can Self Insert Into The Heroine For . . .
Sorry For The Rant . . .
In The End I Am Still Grateful For The Fact The Devs Got Something Out , I Am Just Venting . . . Also I Feel Like Devs Should Learn To Cut Back And Just Deliver A Short Game Instead Of A Forever Demo Which Feels Like A Pitch For A Board Room . . .
EDIT : Read The Yandere Bible By Yandere Town [ Never Coming Out , My Version Of A Forever Patreon Porn Game ] Great Way For Your First Steps Into Writing Yanderes .
but any yandere that kills the MC bc he doesn't want anyone to get her, is less of the yandere Im interested in
