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It's also interesting how the overall experience of the game is Suito wa Hakumei.. I was so upset that they changed the artist, no one knows why this happened?
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So I p much quit all otome games for a while now along with all VN but I still love chatting about old BLVN I've played in the past because it's still p niche.
Some of my fav games are dmmd and its fandisk, along with Lamento too with the fan patch are the 3 that I recall the most now. Then I've also played like Hashihime and
Tokyo Onmyoji -The Tale of Rei Tengenjibashi before moonchime closed down too but my overall exp is still so-so since I often drop games if I lose motivation fast for them nowadays.
I'm not interested in a lot of non-con, horror, yandere, captive, gore/violence, and all dark themes, so I know my options in English have always been limited due to how few new BLVN are localized too.
For non-VN with optional mlm content I can recc'd Dragon Age/Bioware, Fire Emblem 3 Houses, Rune Factory, Persona 5 with gay mods, and some older 3DS games have like BL mods for it too. Yes, I know a few are based on creating your own character, but it's still sadly not common to have gay male MC other than some supporting roles.
Some of my fav games are dmmd and its fandisk, along with Lamento too with the fan patch are the 3 that I recall the most now. Then I've also played like Hashihime and
Tokyo Onmyoji -The Tale of Rei Tengenjibashi before moonchime closed down too but my overall exp is still so-so since I often drop games if I lose motivation fast for them nowadays.
I'm not interested in a lot of non-con, horror, yandere, captive, gore/violence, and all dark themes, so I know my options in English have always been limited due to how few new BLVN are localized too.
For non-VN with optional mlm content I can recc'd Dragon Age/Bioware, Fire Emblem 3 Houses, Rune Factory, Persona 5 with gay mods, and some older 3DS games have like BL mods for it too. Yes, I know a few are based on creating your own character, but it's still sadly not common to have gay male MC other than some supporting roles.
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Yes, initially, the artist Aizawa Anji, known for the Suicide Club, worked on the project. I would have attached more examples, but the site does not attach the file.
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They had to change artist because Aizawa Anji decided to step away from game development entirely. Aizawa's own in-development game was cancelled too (source).
I'm happy Suito wa Hakumei is alive because HolicWorks has a history of cancelling games is something goes wrong during development.
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That explanation though
Not that I am surprised about human nature but ehh, when I imagine paying money to support "those types of people" it feels icky lol...Guess the doujin industry really is too stressful for some. The creator of Homicipher is quitting too (sorry I know it's not BL so not reaaally related) albeit for different reasons iirc.
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As far as I know, the creator of Homochifer does not leave the creation of vn. She has 2 games in progress. Or has something changed? I saw it in her tweet 3 months ago.That explanation though
Guess the doujin industry really is too stressful for some. The creator of Homicipher is quitting too (sorry I know it's not BL so not reaaally related) albeit for different reasons iirc.
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Which two games are you talking about?
Going by this post [date 13th January this year] Yatsunagi Games will no longer produce new games.
https://x.com/i/status/2011007288333778981
I checked and all her games so far are under that brand so technically the game brand's future is dead.
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Oooh I see. The new art kind of looks like Holicworks' standard style, with all the coloring quirks that come with, and I feel that the old art fits the character designs a lot better. But hey, the important part's the writing!
I hope people are normal about the art change though. Don't quote me on this, but IIRC the artist for Mebiusline FD/Tokyo 24-ku received some harassment just because she wasn't the original Mebiusline artist, back in the day.I actually like her art more than the original artist's.
I hope people are normal about the art change though. Don't quote me on this, but IIRC the artist for Mebiusline FD/Tokyo 24-ku received some harassment just because she wasn't the original Mebiusline artist, back in the day.
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TM fd and 24-ku were drawn by different people(Tome and Fuuga Yuyu respectively).
But yeah, 24-ku got some backlash due to "boring" character designs and the overall artstyle. Heck, I remember when Slow Damage was coming out people made jokes about its artstyle too. Sadly no one is safe from bad faith criticism...
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Oh yeah, I got that confused because Yuyu was the artist for the TM manga (which is kinda not great, lol). Tome did get harassment for replacing the OG artist too, I remember hearing discussions about it but I can't remember if that was on 5ch or twitter. But ngl there's not a lot of things to be done if the OG artist doesn't want to return....
I think some fans are really rabid about artists to......weird levels. There was a point after Omerta's release where you get people constantly whinging at any game for not having art made by Tateishi Ryou....our genre is niche enough, we can't afford to be that petty ajskdhajkshdk.
Nobody whined about Adelta or Yura to my knowledge though!
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After LD1 eng release I saw some people saying the art didn't age well because some sprites and CGs looked awkward... But maybe because I played Enzai, I could only see LD1 as a huge improvement.
Plus at the time of LD1 development, Tennenouji was still a small studio and the game got popular partially due to its colorful aesthetic and striking character designs.
What happened?That explanation though
Guess the doujin industry really is too stressful for some. The creator of Homicipher is quitting too (sorry I know it's not BL so not reaaally related) albeit for different reasons iirc.
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Yes, I can't find any information about the new game right now, I only have a couple of screenshots from Twitter left.
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And why complain about Adelta or Yura, ahha? Are the artists changing their style for the project?
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hi! i played galtia recently, but i didnt really like it. It managed to have me get bored while having a great synopsis unfortunately, and i didnt like the pairings. The art was great at least. I only played senris route tho, and zeeks
I dont mind shinxsenri, but i expected to really love it more since im usually an enjoyer of this kind of dynamic in BL.
Concerning zeek, i wanted to play his route because well he looks very good. But im very disappointed, here is some spoilers :
I dont mind shinxsenri, but i expected to really love it more since im usually an enjoyer of this kind of dynamic in BL.
Concerning zeek, i wanted to play his route because well he looks very good. But im very disappointed, here is some spoilers :
where is the alchemy? theres nothing... or it started to have at least some light spark when he and shin were fighting and shin landed on top of him lying on the ground, but thats all. i wanted to play zeeks route, but even with that the game didnt manage to make me want to know more about him
BUT !!!! Leo !!!!! why is Leos relationship with shin so much more interesting than shin with zeek ? My fav parts in the zeek route were moments with Leo. I like Leo. My fav route is def the one where you can leave the country with him, and fuck the rest. Im pleasantly surprised you can do such a thing btw, its the first time i see a BLVN allowing you to flee with another guy that has no route, who loves the m/c and who doesnt ra/pe him. How come thats a bad end? thats the happiest bad end i have ever seen haha
BUT !!!! Leo !!!!! why is Leos relationship with shin so much more interesting than shin with zeek ? My fav parts in the zeek route were moments with Leo. I like Leo. My fav route is def the one where you can leave the country with him, and fuck the rest. Im pleasantly surprised you can do such a thing btw, its the first time i see a BLVN allowing you to flee with another guy that has no route, who loves the m/c and who doesnt ra/pe him. How come thats a bad end? thats the happiest bad end i have ever seen haha
I also only played Senri's route. I first tried playing Diago's route but I got bored and dropped it to go for Senri.
Senri was very cute initially but then he out of nowhere kisses Shin against his will the first time which he doesn't even apologize for and gets brushed off by Shin. And during their first H scene he ends up hurting the protagonist even after promising he'd be gentle. And even tho I didn't play it I've read spoilers about the horrible thing he does to Shin together with his brother in that one bad ending. And Shin gave me the feeling that while he loves Senri he's not really in love with him per se, even by the end of his route. There were like 1 or 2 cute moments in his route but otherwise the route was rather dull and unemorable. Also Zeek is probably the hottest character from any BL VN imo but I didn't play his route cause I knew it had (lots of) non-con. Sad. I wish they put the non-con in a bad ending and made his route more vanilla leaning, Galtia already had Laurus as the r*pist LI anyway so they didn't need to make 2 such LIs (or 3 if counting the true route too).
Also the other Grisedge VN Kintouka pissed me off even more. Mostly cause of a misleading reviewer saying that all the LIs respect the protagonist's consent in the H scenes and the relationships are healthy unlike in other BL VNs.
And yeah I get that non-con or abusive dynamics are popular in BL VNs and some people like them but at least don't lie about them in reviews of the game !
But in the 2 routes I tried playing both Munesada and Kyou did things against the protagonist's will in the H scenes even after explicitly promising that they wouldn't. They also treated the protagonist Souta very badly even outside of the H scenes. These routes got so bad for me I couldn't even finish them unlike Senri's route and just dropped them after their respective second H scene. May these alleged "healthy relationships" never find me irl lol.
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Yeah, im the same as you. For bad ends im a little more lenient since i usually consider that its stuff that wouldnt usually happen in canon, if that makes sense?
zeek has a GORGEOUS sprite, really. He is less beautiful in the cgs tho, but its compared to his sprite! He had so much potential to be very hot in behavior too, which didnt happen
i also do feel that shin didnt seem in love with senri... it felt more like he was trying to convince himself. It was dull indeed even if it had a lot of things appealing on paper.
i had a hard time being intersted in zeek even though he hyped me in the first place, and when he turned full on ra/pist i lost interest completely. I wanted to do the true route because i was interested in that red hair dude, but since you need to finish all endings to finally get his route i wanted to know if it was worth it to fast skip all ends to get him. Turns out, it apparently isnt.
for diago, what made you stop? a review i saw said senris route is the one with the less noncon stuff. Is it because of that?
so you only played senris route and part of diago, right?
i had a hard time being intersted in zeek even though he hyped me in the first place, and when he turned full on ra/pist i lost interest completely. I wanted to do the true route because i was interested in that red hair dude, but since you need to finish all endings to finally get his route i wanted to know if it was worth it to fast skip all ends to get him. Turns out, it apparently isnt.
for diago, what made you stop? a review i saw said senris route is the one with the less noncon stuff. Is it because of that?
so you only played senris route and part of diago, right?
That's true about bad endings, most of the time they seem to be used for weird porn scenarios in BL VNs.
I just simply wasn't interested in Diago enough to continue his route, I didn't even reach his H scenes, so it wasn't about his behaviour. Galtia's very long routes made it too much of a slog to go through a route for a character I wasn't that interested in, maybe if the routes had the duration of the routes from Dramatical Murder or Haiiro no Arcadia I may have powered through his route. From what I've heard from spoilers I think Diago may have some dub con scene(s) but him and Senri seem to be the only LIs that don't have (unambigous at least) r*pe in their good endings, that's why I was willing to play Diago's route first.
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ty, maybe ill give diagos route a try! if i do id probably only fast forward to moments that seem important tho, since i dont trust that game anymore to have get me invested. Its objectively not bad scenario or world building wise i guess, but its... boring ? and i feel like a looooot of lines in this game are very useless background elements, or characters saying in their heads some elements to be sure the audience understood the implicit elements.
btw, did you manage to find BLVNs with no noncon elements (or only in bad ends)?
Yeah like I remember Shin saying his backstory in the common route and then repeating it again the next day in game, like was that really necessary ?
About such BL VNs:
Haiiro no Arcadia
Kouichi and Riou are vanilla in terms of sex scenes, some dub con/forcefulness in their first handjob/blowjob scenes, but then they both double check for protagonist's permission before penetration and even use lube. There's r*pe only in their bad endings and Seri is the only LI with unavoidable non-con in his route.
Shingakkou Noli Me Tangere
I only played Neil's route from this one and the sex scenes were consensual but the relationship had an adult - minor age gap. The protagonist also almost gets r*ped by the old and ugly school principal but he gets rescued by Neil and another priest in time. From what I heard Leonid and Cecil's H scenes are also consensual in their good endings (the protagonist can even choose to be the seme during the sex scenes).
Taishou Mebiusline + the fandisk
I only played Tatebayashi's route, the H scene in the main game was a bit awkward considering the circumstances but consensual. From what I heard only Senge's route and a bad ending with the military twins has non-con.
Also the Western BL VNs I've played like Coming Out on Top, Seyiuu Danshi, Full Service and Bewitching Sinners have consensual sex scenes, tho except Bewitching Sinners they have been less plot heavy.
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