Anime Sharing - Netorare General Discussion Thread

[Yosef30]

Its nice to see that Alicesoft is making a new AAA NTR game....but ok I have to ask, am I the ONLY one that doesn't like it when a game like this (ntr) has like 10 different girls and only gives us like 6-10 CG of the main heroines? Like I get the point of the game and capture mechanic, but for an NTR game I feel like the attention spent on the main girls will be short.

Could be wrong, but I find games like this often introduce some really cool character designs and others....less so and it feels like a tease as we get just one or two hentai CG of each. But I get this is Alicesofts thing too for some of their games, just wish it had more content for the actual main girls...because you know it will be limited in a game like this.

Definitely not... More heroines- each gets less focus. But multiple heroines(without TOO many) is better than a single heroine because they can act as build up to a true(r) heroine. Or just for added despair value if they're all very closely tied to the MC... say a wife/childhood friend/sister/daughter.. In that order. You never want to end with the obvious less impactful heroine being NTR'd.. In that situation- a wife is mature.. She has cravings. Her cheating may make the MC more angry than depressed. It's the common situation. But it gets more serious down the line and more depressing as purer- more innocent and loved characters fall. I guess. A daughter should always invoke the thought to protect.. Meanwhile with 1 heroine- when the first NTR happens- all later scenes are less impactful. So it becomes more on a focus of how far this one heroine will go rather than the shock that it happened. I think the best part of NTR is the mystery aspect and thus the first reveal and realization by the perspective that something is happening. Can only do that once per heroine.. sadly.

 

[EldenAS]

Just recently replayed Beats Blade Haruka. Kinda wished the dad had sex with the heroines. Can someone recommand me an eroge where the "good" dad (not asshole dad, as I already had my fill of them) have NTR sex with the heroine through plausible reasons (like powering up the heroine or something) and not rape?

Specifically, MC is the son, "good" dad is the netori guy.

 

[woomba]

That's basically the setup for Fukou na Kami by Black Rainbow

 

[Tentacle Bandit]

Uh...speaking of Beat Blades thats my other issue with ALL of Alicesoft games or heck NTR in general in visual novels, is how short characters memories are. Like I hate how in school after the previous days crazy ass sex scene (be it rape loss or training) the characters act like yesterday didn't exist. This is a total scripting issue by the writers and it drives me nuts. It would be nice/super exciting to see the characters have some memory or comments directly or indirectly the day following - AT LEAST the day following what just happened to them.

Not, "hi MC! another beautiful day, lets have lunch together! I'm looking forward to your hard work!"

Its like....I'm pretty sure if you just got fucked by a group of whatever...thats going to be on everybodies mind the day after.

 

[Animefan_09]

Uh...speaking of Beat Blades thats my other issue with ALL of Alicesoft games or heck NTR in general in visual novels, is how short characters memories are. Like I hate how in school after the previous days crazy ass sex scene (be it rape loss or training) the characters act like yesterday didn't exist. This is a total scripting issue by the writers and it drives me nuts. It would be nice/super exciting to see the characters have some memory or comments directly or indirectly the day following - AT LEAST the day following what just happened to them.

Not, "hi MC! another beautiful day, lets have lunch together! I'm looking forward to your hard work!"

Its like....I'm pretty sure if you just got fucked by a group of whatever...thats going to be on everybodies mind the day after.

Yeah i hate when that happens, hell i think nukige games like bishop are better at it than that since at least the girls do have memories and even the "filler" scenes change with how far the routes go.

 

[woomba]

Minor update from Venus - Summer Salt prequel is nearing completion - likely end of Sept/ October release. Targeting 15 CGs total, so I'm guessing 3 sex scenes or so.

 

[Yosef30]

Still looking for NTR冒険者 アリサ 1.2 - significant content changes and scenes added since 1.13.. But I think he's finally done with it. FOR REAL now..(he's working on a new project) So this should be the last update to find. If only it wasn't a dlsite monopoly. Anyone have it?

 

[EldenAS]

Looks like there's some nice eroge recommandation here http://ntrblog.com/archives/1077865704.html

Can someone confirm whether or not this hgame contains NTR contents: https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ219681.html

 

[Animefan_09]

Still looking for NTR冒険者 アリサ 1.2 - significant content changes and scenes added since 1.13.. But I think he's finally done with it. FOR REAL now..(he's working on a new project) So this should be the last update to find. If only it wasn't a dlsite monopoly. Anyone have it?

Someone found this https://anonfiles.com/rdr1AeP8oc/RJ293041_zip on https://boards.4channel.org/vg//thread/305020129/2d-hentai-games-general-hgg2d tried it and aparently is good, and yeah it adds a lot xD, mostly at the end i think but maybe is becuase i used a previous save instead of playing from the begining, i would have to try that way.

 

[asfasdffkasdask]

Looks like there's some nice eroge recommandation here http://ntrblog.com/archives/1077865704.html

Can someone confirm whether or not this hgame contains NTR contents: https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ219681.html

I downloaded 素晴らしき国家の築き方 and it's basically a brothel game but the h-scenes with the customers seem independent from the rest of the game and are just a way to make money basically, a bit like 死神娼館. According to that NTR blog post the girls can get pregnant from the customers and sex stats are tracked but I don't really think there is any NTR in this game judging by my quick playthrough and the lag of NTR tags on the reviews for the game.

 

[asfasdffkasdask]

Looks like there's some nice eroge recommandation here http://ntrblog.com/archives/1077865704.html

Can someone confirm whether or not this hgame contains NTR contents: https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ219681.html

I had a quick download and playthrough myself and basically part of the the game revolves around using a brothel to make money like 死神娼館, but the h-scenes with the brothel customers don't seem to tie into the rest of the game at all so there isn't any NTR there, also there isn't any NTR tags in any of the reviews for the game so it's not an NTR game.

 

[Namkapple]

Just recently replayed Beats Blade Haruka. Kinda wished the dad had sex with the heroines. Can someone recommand me an eroge where the "good" dad (not asshole dad, as I already had my fill of them) have NTR sex with the heroine through plausible reasons (like powering up the heroine or something) and not rape?

Specifically, MC is the son, "good" dad is the netori guy.

You have piqued my interest. I know know of that one game from pinpoit with asshole dad's. Do you have one or two more you can rec? Thanks.

 

[Animefan_09]

So new topic (sort of) but is there some artist you wish to see fall intot he dark side? Recently iw ant to see Tokiwa Midori (https://exhentai.org/tag/artist:tokiwa+midori) in ntr doujin muahahahahaha

BTW i mean artist that haven't done anything like ntr before, if you combine it with someone writing the scenario/story that is good too.

 

[EldenAS]

You have piqued my interest. I know know of that one game from pinpoit with asshole dad's. Do you have one or two more you can rec? Thanks.

You mean like Beat Blades Haruka? Hmm there was another named Beat Angel Escalayer but given its high popularity, you might have already played it. Tbh I'm not quite sure since I didn't play enough magical girl NTR that has decent gameplay.


Btw, can anyone who played these series https://vndb.org/v15223, https://vndb.org/v3307 give me a brief impression? I thought about downloading the whole series, though it's sure to hurt my bandwidth, so I'd like to ask someone's opinion on these eroge beforehand.

Also, anyone can PM me a download link of the latest version 1.5 of this hgame? (this one has a rance-like funny protagonist with optional Netorase elements) https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ276790.html

 

[EldenAS]

So new topic (sort of) but is there some artist you wish to see fall intot he dark side? Recently iw ant to see Tokiwa Midori (https://exhentai.org/tag/artist:tokiwa+midori) in ntr doujin muahahahahaha

BTW i mean artist that haven't done anything like ntr before, if you combine it with someone writing the scenario/story that is good too.

This one https://exhentai.org/tag/artist:pochi.
Tbh, the one artist that I really want to see create a full blown series of NTR is https://exhentai.org/tag/mogudan. He does NTR, but only very very light NTR. Mogudan is my top fav artist atm, I really love how thicc he draws the girls accompanied by an old school face design. He's a gigantic Rei Ayanami fan, so he mostly do parodies of this character. He only recently introduced Shinji from Evangelion as a pseudo-cuck Netorare but unfortunately like his other series, it isn't quite Netorare as it's centered around Rei and the other netori guys.

 

[woomba]

Hey guys,

I noticed that VNDB allows for direct querying into their DB and thought it might be interesting to see the NTR groups collective tastes (i.e. most played game, highest avg rating game, etc) for our group. If you're interested in being counted please share your vndb username into this form and I'll share the output once I have enough replies.

Thanks!

 

[MerrilMan]

https://ci-en.dlsite.com/creator/260/article/355293
https://twitter.com/amazake_mousou/status/1302348471999971331
This is looking pretty decent, I didn't think much of that elf game they did but this has some nice gimmicks. I really love those type of menu screens that compare the sexual statistics of the protagonist and antagonist, and the unique sprites where she has cum left on her after various points is a great touch too. Seems like a release for next year though, so one to keep an eye on perhaps.

 

[Animefan_09]

https://ci-en.dlsite.com/creator/260/article/355293
https://twitter.com/amazake_mousou/status/1302348471999971331
This is looking pretty decent, I didn't think much of that elf game they did but this has some nice gimmicks. I really love those type of menu screens that compare the sexual statistics of the protagonist and antagonist, and the unique sprites where she has cum left on her after various points is a great touch too. Seems like a release for next year though, so one to keep an eye on perhaps.

Yeah i can't beleive the elf game got translated, i think it had 3 routes and only 1 was so so, the other not even that really, but if it helped to bring this one and it doe slook better then that is ok

 

[Yosef30]

Yeah i can't beleive the elf game got translated, i think it had 3 routes and only 1 was so so, the other not even that really, but if it helped to bring this one and it doe slook better then that is ok

Yeah... Zefira (I think it was?) ... From them was.. really bad.. It just missed every good aspect of NTR- was overly generic. and dull. It was barely NTr anyway because the husband was barely shown. Maybe this one will be better.

Meanwhile- https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ287271.html this game out today.. Now their art might be subpar but I enjoyed their last NTR game.. (the most recent version completely changes the game and is probably hard to find though... I can't upload it.) .. Their scenarios are fun and the writing isn't bad. This new release of theirs exploded beyond what the developers vision. I think- 13000 slides(includes animation) and 50+ scenes.. They also stated that there is a lot more NTR content than what was initially planned. Though NTR wasn't meant to be the focus of the game. Still- it will have a lot of NTR scenes anyway.

I'd try it-. But dlsite monopoly... so can't buy it. Hopefully will pop up somewhere. Think it will be good to kill some hours.

Edit: looks like it was already up.
http://www.anime-sharing.com/forum/...200907][肩こりです]-スカーレットプリンセス-[rj287271]-990683/

 

[greenlittleman]

The last game from Atelier Sakura did have an interesting premise (MC secretly spying on his cheating gf) and nice heroine design (sporty and tomboyish), but in the end, it was a great disappointment. All sex scenes are too rapey (even completely consensual ones), there is just not enough build-up (MC doesn't even fuck his gf at any point in the story) and, the most important to me, the voice acting was really annoying, lol.

 

[mrecchiman]

I'm OOTL; hoping someone here can explain because I'm a little confused.

Kusatsu Terunyo is the mangaka of Homestay

There was:

1st Month of Homestay [Chapter 1]
1st Week of Homestay [Chapter 2]
5th Week of Homestay [Chapter 3]
6th Week of Homestay [Chapter 4]
Summer Vacation of the Homestay [Chapter 5]
Homestay Daydream Series No.6 [Chapter 6]
Homestay Daydream Series No.7 [Chapter 7]
Homestay Daydream Series No.8 [Chapter 8]

8 Chapters/releases and then for a while things were quiet

Then there was

Homestay Daydream After [Chapter 9]

Now 9 chapters


However very recently a new tankobon was released but it looks like there are some notable changes from the original magazine chapters...

From what I'm seeing everything from Chapter 1 to Chapter 5 is the same, but then there's notable changes from here for the tank.

Original magazine publication had 9 chapters, new tank has 11 chapters with new extended content/alternate ending.

Does this mean the author plans to write a sequel and this is why the tank has rewrites and changes?

Hopefully someone translates the new content and then releases a new batch with the original story and the new alternate version.

If anyone knows more about why the author made these changes and can give a summary of why the new tank story is better or worse I'd like to know your opinion.

Maybe this explains things?

https://exhentai.org/s/f26594af9a/1727863-246

 

[Animefan_09]

I'm OOTL; hoping someone here can explain because I'm a little confused.

Kusatsu Terunyo is the mangaka of Homestay

There was:

1st Month of Homestay [Chapter 1]
1st Week of Homestay [Chapter 2]
5th Week of Homestay [Chapter 3]
6th Week of Homestay [Chapter 4]
Summer Vacation of the Homestay [Chapter 5]
Homestay Daydream Series No.6 [Chapter 6]
Homestay Daydream Series No.7 [Chapter 7]
Homestay Daydream Series No.8 [Chapter 8]

8 Chapters/releases and then for a while things were quiet

Then there was

Homestay Daydream After [Chapter 9]

Now 9 chapters


However very recently a new tankobon was released but it looks like there are some notable changes from the original magazine chapters...

From what I'm seeing everything from Chapter 1 to Chapter 5 is the same, but then there's notable changes from here for the tank.

Original magazine publication had 9 chapters, new tank has 11 chapters with new extended content/alternate ending.

Does this mean the author plans to write a sequel and this is why the tank has rewrites and changes?

Hopefully someone translates the new content and then releases a new batch with the original story and the new alternate version.

If anyone knows more about why the author made these changes and can give a summary of why the new tank story is better or worse I'd like to know your opinion.

Maybe this explains things?

https://exhentai.org/s/f26594af9a/1727863-246

I all but ignored it thinking it was the same, going to check it out, what page start chapter 6 or the new content?

 

[mrecchiman]

Small typo I made before; changes starting from chapter 6 onward not chapter 7 (got confused by the DMM ad for Chapter 6 but "Series No.7" is in the Presented By title)

If you want to read the original publication:

https://exhentai.org/g/1503321/93f6403aea/
&
https://exhentai.org/g/1422825/a6bff1a465/


Tank:
https://exhentai.org/g/1727863/223fab9d30/


Different from here onward
(Old):
https://exhentai.org/s/b28b2fc4c8/1503321-119

(New):
https://exhentai.org/s/fc8b27bf51/1727863-123


Also worth noting that the tank has 1st Month of Homestay as Chapter 1 while the magazine batch has 1st Week of Homestay as Chapter 1

Though if you track down the individual releases:

1st Month was released first (COMIC Purumelo 2008-11) and 1st Week was released second (ANGEL CLUB 2010-04)

TL;DR

English scanlations released Chapter 2 as "Chapter 1" but the tank has the proper order

 

[Osni]

However very recently a new tankobon was released but it looks like there are some notable changes from the original magazine chapters...

From what I'm seeing everything from Chapter 1 to Chapter 5 is the same, but then there's notable changes from here for the tank.

Original magazine publication had 9 chapters, new tank has 11 chapters with new extended content/alternate ending.

Does this mean the author plans to write a sequel and this is why the tank has rewrites and changes?

Hopefully someone translates the new content and then releases a new batch with the original story and the new alternate version.

If anyone knows more about why the author made these changes and can give a summary of why the new tank story is better or worse I'd like to know your opinion.

It's a very common practice in serialized manga to make changes before printing it in book form, redrawing backgrounds, retouching characters, adding extra content so the book gains appeal to the buyer that already read all the chapters. As for changing the content (lines, framing, etc) he did mention in that postscript page that he believes he went a little overboard with the changes and whoever feels like comparing can look old chapters up online since it's very easy to find, but said nothing about a sequel or anything like that.

 

[straight.shota]

I'm not really sure I agree with this comment at all on many fronts, first your implying that happy swinging netorase doesn't deserve to be made for people who dont' want to experience tragic netorase stories? Second point, are you saying that TeamMM isn't allowed to make different types of games with different NTR themes for different audiences? For example I really enjoyed the swinging games story and I think 僕に抱かれ喘ぐ妻は、他の男に抱かれた話を紡ぐ is the best game they've ever made. I HATE the bob games, with the wife that full out netorares her husband with the foreigner. All they do is make me angry and not in an arousing way because I see a relationship being desotryed. But THATS the thing, some people get really love that - and the bob games are for them - and they hate the swinging/light netorase games.

So I think ANIM has done a very good job swinging between both audiences and I DO NOT agree or think they need to only cater to one side of the bench. Why not make games for different audiences? Like if you know your not going to like the happy swinging game, why play it? Why not wait for their next hard netorare game instead? To me this is like going into a grocery store and looking to buy oranges but they only have grapefruits in stock this week,, so you buy the grapefruits but you know you wont' like them.

Atelier is definitely a factory of generic games and all over the place, no question there though. EVEN when they present a good idea for a story (i actually LIKED the idea for their recent game) they TOTALLY mess up the execution of it (like they did their recent game) into a generic, bland product/story/cg. Its like you can tell they are rushing these products out to fill their monthly release quota.

I personally don't think the comparison between the two are just. Its clear ANIM is trying to make a game for netorare audience, than a game for the netorase audience like a cycle. I think thats great, because we are two different audiences and they actually put effort into their products.

I don't know how you get to that conclusion, I had to assume you didn't read my full post, or read it and only focused on one part and ignoring the rest. I'll copy it below so you can read it again:

Well, as long as people buy trash, trash they will sell us. And sadly this is becoming more and more true for Anim TeamMM as well. While their games are still not as mediocre as Atelier Sakura ones, they're definitely going that path (IMO). In fact the last games from Anim TeamMM remind me of a discussion we had some time ago. Someone said something very true (I don't remember who sadly): More and more developers were jumping to the poll of NTR because it sells, without truly understanding the genre. The last titles from Anim TeamMM feel kind of like that. It feels like they add the NTR just to justify the tag, just as something they have to add to sell better. Not because they want, but because they have to. Their last game is a good example of that. And I don't agree with the discussion about how some people may not like it because it's not dark. It's not about being dark or light, it's about doing things right! And Netorase could be really hot, without the need to going dark places.

[Yuuhoku.] [Netorase] Boku no Tame ni Kanojo ga Asedaku Uwaki Sex Shimakuru Hanashi This is the one of the best CG sets I've read in a while. Now, that's how you do some good Netorase. I hope it gets translated, so people that doesn't know Japanese could read it (although I always encourage people to learn japanese...It's not that impossible as many people think it is, and the reward is very much worth it). The CG is hardcore, but not really dark (IMO at least). But regardless of how it ends (I think everyone is happy at the end), the best part is the progression of it. The lies, the videos, the pictures, the kinky-teasing girlfriend, the handle of the emotional S&M; everything it's done very well. And that's just one example, there are more examples of Netorase done right witouth the need to turn it into Netorare or going dark.

Well, to be fair. Anim TeamMM games have very high production values and there are always at least one scene that is super hot. And if you're looking for happy go lucky swinging, then Great!...But what I condemn from TeamMM is how they are using their reputation and the NTR to sell us their last games...Well, if that sells, that's what matters for them in the end...which leads me back to the opening statement of the post...

Toaru Hahaoya series are my favorite games of all time. It also has almost unanimous praise from this community. Do you think that's dark? It's really light-hearted, but it still has a powerful NTR feeling. Toaru Hitozuma 2, also from Rascou, has one of the sweetest endings I've seeing in NTR, it almost seem like the ending of a ROM-COM not a NTR title, but that game is still pretty good NTR wise. If ANIMTEAMM want to do Netorase with light hearted feeling and happy ending, by all means! Please! But don't make a mistake, the fact that some people didn't like their last game has little to do with it being light or dark.