Re: Anime Sharing - Netorare Thread
[MENTION=20066]jasonfs[/MENTION] Damn but rapidgator is slow. Finally got it all downloaded now though, and it's working great. So I've got something to keep me busy this weekend then. Thanks a million for this, we could use more like you.
As for the virgin thing, I kind of get it. Especially when it comes to NTR. It's pretty much an ego thing for the guys obsessing over it like the idol-otakus in question. In most parts of the world and especially so in japan, a girl's 1st experiences with a member of the opposite sex are supposed to be special. Young girls are often told to be careful and to make sure the guy the kiss first and eventually go all the way with is a man she loves and won't regret it, since it'll remain a unforgettable memory for the rest of her life. It's a well known sentiment in japan, though naturally it's the opposite for men. Girls are supposed to protect their virtue for the sake of the man they'll fall in love with one day, while if a guy over a certain age is one, it must be because he can't find a girl willing to do it with him. Not all that different from in most parts of the world, only a bit more emphasized, though modern attitudes have loosened up a lot from how it used to be.
The point is that it makes a guy feel special, gives him a sense of superiority to know he's the one she chose to have her first experience with out of all the other guys who would have been only too happy to do the job (assuming she's halfway cute). I'm pretty sure there's some instinct at work too, natural selection having favoured males who targeted girls without previous experience, and who therefore were certain to not have been impregnated by anyone else and having less chance of carrying any STDs. In the case of women it might be more important for a guy to have previous experience to prove that he's virile and that she's not wasting her time trying to concieve a child with a sterile man. Hence why many women often end up falling for playboys who mess them around and older men who are already married and perhaps have kids as well. Though that's all purely my own logic there.
In the case of the hard-core otaku obsession with a girl's purity in japan, it's for the reasons I already mentioned, and likely because of their own feelings of inferiority and insecurity. Most of them have probably had experience of liking girls they actually knew only to see said girls fall for other guys who were better looking and had much better social skills. In the end they prefer to focus on some imaginary 2d character or as good as imaginary idol who is unattainable in real life, and embrace the fantasy that she might against all common sense and logic, recognise his devotion to her and secretly returns his feelings and is just waiting for the right moment to admit it and offer herself to him, having kept her purity just for his sake.
It's a lot easier to delude yourself than admit your own faults, accept that you're aiming for the unattainable and lower your standards to be a little more realistic, along with putting some actual efforts into improving your appearance and success in actually interacting with the opposite sex in the first place if you genuinely want a girlfriend in real life. Reality is pretty harsh after all. But not for me, since as long as I have my 2D waifus who even
needs 3D girls anyway. Don't you dare judge me!
As for the NTR angle, I works in reverse. Because she's supposed to be saving her firsts for the man she loves and that being the protag who she is in a relationship with and possesses a strong bond of love with that has not quite reached a physical stage yet for whatever reason, when she ends up being seduced by some other guy and gets her cherry popped by him after only pursuing her for only a short time (albeit much more aggressively and assertively than the protag ever did) after your guy spent so much time and devotion on her just to get close to finally going all the way, the sense of being deprived of something that you'll never get back is pretty strong. Even if the protag wins the girl back and even makes her his and marries her someday, he'll always know that the other guy had his way with her first and that whenever she remembers her first time, it won't be him she'll be thinking of. It's an irreversible loss no matter how you look at it, even if the protag loves her so much that he can overcome it. It'll always be there, squirming in his gut.
I understand that a lot of you guys have a preference for NTRed wives, seeing a woman betrayed her husband who she married after years in a relationship and has been with as partners for whatever amount of time since, as a bigger loss than a virgin schoolgirl who's only been dating the protag for mere months and hasn't done more than kiss innocently with. I can see the appeal there, but for me the idea of marriage being sacred and inviolate isn't that strong an image. Since my own parents split in my early teens, it's felt kind of inevitable to me that couples will drift apart as enough time goes on and small grievances build up, and if they stay together for the sake of family and the responsibilities marrying has created for them, it seems to me like they'll be doing it out of duty and might almost certainly be seeing other people on the side to keep themselves going. I'm pretty cynical about that sort of thing I'm afraid, not that I'm trying convince anyone else of it.
Point is that for NTR, rather than married couples I get a lot more of a kick when the couples are experiencing first love. The innocence and idealism about it appeals to me a lot and gives me the feeling that at that age and level experiences, it really does seem like love will last forever and that you can handle anything as long as you have each other. The old childhood friends shtick you see all the time when they do NTR in this situation may be done to death, but it does help. Since it overcomes the sense that since they just started dating that it can't be that serious and that NTR isn't something you can't get over. In the childhood friends case, it feels more like they've always had feelings for each other since they were young, have just been waiting till they got old enough to actually get serious about them and finally enter a romantic relationship. All those years developing to that, all the experiences and feelings shared between them, only for some guy whose just entered there lives to steal her away, take the girl's virginity before the couple could get beyond holding hands and make all their time together seem like it means nothing with just a few thrusts of his magic dick? Well it's gets my NTR blood pumping. Though it might not be for everyone here, and might get a little repetitive with how many times it's been done before.
In conclusion, whether the girl is a virgin or not does make a difference in the end to a lot of guys, especially when it comes to fantasising. It may not be right or fair, and in real life no mature and decent man should ever look down on a woman simply because she has prior sexual experience. This we all know, but in a emotional level I don't think any guy is 100% happy with the idea that a woman he loves has had sex with other men, even if it was all before they even met. Even if he's mature enough not to let it bother him at all and treat like the tiny issue it should really be, the feeling is still there. Considering what the fetish in this thread is about, I'd say everyone here should understand those feelings pretty well.
I've rambled on a lot about something I felt like giving my thoughts on, so I'll leave it there. If you read everything I wrote, you have my praise. ;)
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