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I think I'll add some games too ;)

A standard list like that would be good IMO:
GAME
vndb link if available
Image
NTR type
+
-

I'll start (no particular order):
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[AiCherry] Mama to Imouto to Boku to Sensei
http://vndb.org/v6081
L7jex.jpg

NTR B (mother & sister)
+ Strong character (mother)
+ Multiple ntr endings (mother, sister, and ntr harem ^^)
+ Good art
- Reusing of cg and scenes

[ATRANDOM] Tsuma ga Tsuma de Naku Naru Hi
No vndb?
IIGZe.jpg

NTR B (married woman)
NTR mystery (diary :) )
+ Good art
+ Good woman voice
- short, way too short :(

[Autobahn] Aiyoku No Epuron
http://vndb.org/v6484
UBurt.jpg

NTR B (married women)
+ Good Art
+ 2 ntr stories in one
+ Tsundere young wife ^^
- I wanted more in the ending :)

[Bonnou Honpo] Yanzuma Koharu ~Omae no Yome wa Ore no Mono~
http://vndb.org/v7149
gD9XD.jpg

NTR A (married woman)
+ Hot Art
- short shota yaoi scene in the end
- Short story

[Dieselmine] Aisai【reverse side】
http://vndb.org/v4781
fHoLc.jpg

NTR A (married woman)
NTR mystery :)
+ Hot Art, great CG and character design
+ Strong-willed wife
+ Multiple endings
- Could have been way longer

[Dieselmine] Itsu no Mani ka Kanojo wa
http://vndb.org/v3743
h0en5.jpg

NTR B (sister-like girlfriend)
NTR mystery
+ Great art
+ Multiple endings
- Too short
- Aisai【reverse side】 is better overall

[Miel] Boku no Kanojo ga Konna Kimo Otoko no Yome ni!
http://vndb.org/v5488
oQsAD.jpg

NTR B (girlfriend)
NTR mystery
+ Great art, good character design
+ Strong willed girlfriend
- Too short
- Only one route

[Miel] Shinkon Netorare Seikatsu
http://vndb.org/v5189 & http://vndb.org/v6020
lOwLs.jpg

NTR B then A (married woman)
NTR mystery
+ Great art, good character design
+ Somewhat longer than expected
+ Strong NTR feeling
- Only one route

[PHASE#END] Eien ~Midara na Wana ni Ochi ta Niiduma~
No vndb?
wCvMo.jpg

NTR B
+ Good Art
- If I remember well, I didn't like endings


[Rizelmine] Shroedinger no Tobira
No vndb?
X7H9a.jpg

NTR B/A (girlfriend)
NTR mystery
+ Good Art
+ Multiple endings
- Short

More later ;)
 
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I do not know the entire story to dark blue, in those days i only read the good parts. However you end up going to a mansion owned by the guy who wants the girl you like. There are other girls you go with, and all in all there are 3 girls that can be stolen. One girl each has an individual guy after them, except the main heroine who has two. You go with more girls, but they get killed during the stay to early to establish anything, so i assume its got a bit of a who dun it mystery to it.

I have to warn you there is Gore in this, specifically the twins get killed, chopped in half (up and down) and sewn back together. And the blonde if you fail her end can get crushed which is what [MENTION=7186]Prettz[/MENTION] and i where talking about. So you have been warned but prolly to late.
Good to know, is gore mandatory or in only some routes?

Also Found うちの妹のばあい(はあと)here as well, To busy downloading first one, gotta work today, so i have not confirmed if any of the DL links work, if they do, please someone say so.
Played the no-ntr version, I found a really great game if you like drama ;)

[MENTION=14267]Redorc[/MENTION] 姉恋模様 Yeah the artwork was strange, but i dug it! Its got Incest, for your sister is one of the targets. But one of the things i like, is you really develop a decent relationship with your girlfriend, and do her quite a few times, and depending on how it goes, the teacher can hook up with either girl or both etc etc, it definitely had some interesting pathways.
There are ntr harem routes?
 
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[MENTION=14267]Redorc[/MENTION]

Been too long i cant remember, not quite a harem, there are only 2 girls. The third girl is only an after-story deal, and you get with her, no one else. (the one with purple hair. Sister is red Head, Gf is the blondish)

As for Dark Blue its mandatory for the twins, one of the days there they are found, and everyone has the typical Omg response followed by someone killed them, one of us must be the killer etc etc. I believe someone else dies first, cant remember for sure. The rest of the gore is specific to a failed route. Also after you played the game to the end or the "true"? end you can see the girls that where killed get raped etc first etc through there eyes that you don't see through the normal story.

As for ちの妹のばあい(はあと)can i get a conformation that i indeed found the post for NTR version there and not the Non-Ntr version?
 
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[MENTION=13786]Telsa[/MENTION]
I think I'll play Dark Blue later then... I don't want gore for now :|

Thanks for the explanations :)
 
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[MENTION=13786]Telsa[/MENTION]
As for ちの妹のばあい(はあと)can i get a conformation that i indeed found the post for NTR version there and not the Non-Ntr version?
I'll see about it...

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Yes, the version you mentioned links to this getchu page, which is the first ntr version.
No-ntr version is in that page.
 
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[MENTION=14267]Redorc[/MENTION]
I haven't finished the Team Bitters games (dropped midgame) and never played あい☆きゃん, but Telsa included it in his torrent and the anime is quite interesting.

Imitation Lover: It's been a while and I have goldfish memory but the ntr comes from the blue haired girl, she likes the dude with brown hair and they fuck like rabbits even when you make advances on her so it's hard to classify, actually I played the game because the art seemed nice and Light is a famous company, you can imagine my surprise when I got some delicious NTR out of nowhere. It's just a slice-of-life-ish drama but really well done, all the routes are well worth playing.

不幸な神: Here you get ntr'd by your own father, he marries your osananajimi. There's no mystery but you peep on them.

姉恋模様: Indeed the art is a bit odd to say the least but once you get past the joker faces this game delivers.

愛のチカラ: This game is very special for me, I played it first because the artist is the same as Biniku no Kaori and it had NTR so what the hell. The mc falls in love with the nurse heroine but another girl likes him and tries to separate them. The hospital has a room where nurses and docto.. eh that part is NTR mystery, better not spoil it. This game is very well written and the mc and heroine are one of the most emotionally engaging characters I've ever found in a NTR eroge. The game explores how the mc realizes he has a ntr fetish and how the couple deals with this fetish of his. This may sound paradoxical in a ntr game but the title is truly appropriate, "the power of love".
Sooo yeah, I like this game :whistle:

Anonymous: yeah and a bit denpa thrown in the mix, weird but good game.


[MENTION=13786]Telsa[/MENTION] Winters is a very strange company, their homepage looks like something an 8 year old did on his HTML class in 1997, the plot of their games is something a couple horndogs came up with some night while high on Listerine and the art is either done by some nobody with mediocre style or 1st rate artists like Ino, no middle ground. And still they manage to have really hot situations and fetishes in every game, with voice acting just as good, I just don't get them.
With old eroge (well, not old but let's say pre 2004 or so) I always have this strange sensation where every sex scene and every girl is much hotter than newer games for some reason, maybe the art or something.
That version you linked to is the gaiden version, with extra stuff.


Edit: Sorry should have mentioned that about うちの妹のばあい
Nice selection Redorc, I didn't know about [ATRANDOM] Tsuma ga Tsuma de Naku Naru Hi
 
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[MENTION=14059]tf2spy[/MENTION]

"Something a couple horn-dogs came up with some night while high on Listerine" is being added to my favorite quotes found in the NTR thread list.

Edit

Checked there site, and did some looking around for there games, that company is wierd, its so.... all over the damn place.

I agree with the art comment, i find that Era of Animation quite appealing for its supposed age

Also, awesome i found the gaiden version, though this wait forever between downloading is the pits, im not gonna complain, just glad i found more content. And i am sure many of our Lurkers are happy with our sudden burst postings as well, glad we did it, was slowing down something fierce in here
 
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http://www.softpal.co.jp/erectlip/product06.html

am i the only person that finds the guy with that pose and shirt gay? oh and OMG there are so many games i haven't played gotta select well and see wich a i play firts, i think i will pick one large and other short, the anonymous one is REALLY intriguing, and dark blue has just scared me:scared:, and glad to see i can on the list, that is one of my favorites games, only one bad thing is that some ends are really complicated to get because they have same escenes nad it isn't until the very end that you know is different xD
 
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Heya!

Sorry, guys, been having trouble with this site again. -_- Lots of good advice and suggestions in the meanwhile, though! Gonna check a few out, thanks!

Some things that came to me as I was catching up with the thread:

1. Try to specify what you mean when you say 'shota' since that just means there's a boy/boyish character. The most recent Lilith Netori game is shota, Yanduma is also shota. One of the two is also incredibly gay. No offense to anyone else intended, but some of us would really like to avoid traps/other yaoi content.

2. [MENTION=7186]Prettz[/MENTION] Hadn't seen that one yet, thanks for the heads up. Will definitely have to check it out as the last Erectlip game I played (Big-breasted School Council President or whatever) was ridiculously hot, despite the lack of NTR. [MENTION=14089]Animefan_09[/MENTION] Which guy with the pose and shirt? xD I think you mean the Shin character, but really, is the son any better? Yeah, that's a boy... That's Japan for you. Still, the Shin guy apparently refers to himself as 'Ore-sama' and that makes me want to gut him with a spoon... >_>

3. Dark Blue. That game killed my boner for like a week, so when you guys first started talking about Lilim games being great, I was highly skeptical. Weren't most of the sex scenes either straight rape or some other form of coercion? I remember all the guys of the family that owned the mansion being bat-shit crazy. Only, not bat-shit crazy in a sexy 'I'm going to spend my vast fortune on giant orgy parties' way like the owner of the mansion in Starless, bat-shit crazy in a 'I'm going to sexually torture these two twins then cut them in half and sew them back together! /bro-fist' way. -_-

4. 不幸な神 I really enjoyed that game, it's fucked up, but everyone gets a weird but happy ending. I highly recommend it and will share more on it, if you're interested.

5. 姉恋模様 Man, I know I really oughta try this game again, but every time I think about it, those girls' faces pop into my head, stare at me with their mouths open, and I have to go hide under my futon until the creepiness fades... /shivers

6. 愛のチカラ [MENTION=14059]tf2spy[/MENTION] I enjoyed the game(it had some really awesome exhibitionist scenes, on top of everything else), but man, I really feel the protagonist was not only a bit fucked up in the head, but kind of a manipulative jerk. The majority of the time, the girlfriend didn't want to do whatever he was trying to get her to do and then he usually pulled the 'But I thought you loved me?' card. She started to enjoy it towards the end and it didn't ruin the game for me, but for a love-style game it did turn me off some. Does she love him or does it stem from him rescuing her from molesting doctors and then getting caught up in his fetishes and now it's the better alternative? I almost feel it's less the power of actual love and more the power of saying 'I love you' as that's how he tends to convince her to do whatever. xD

7. I feel Autobahn is one of the few groups that doesn't make bad games; all of their stuff is quality in my book. In addition to Tsuma Kanraku and Aiyoku no Apron, there's also Buai no Utage(NTR and cheating where the husband ends up enjoying his wife doing other guys, though not in a masochist Yanduma way.) and Lovemilf(It's Netori, but good stuff and focuses just on the player and one woman.) There's also Greater Heal. It's not NTR, but it is rated D for DAAAAAAYYYYYUUUUMMMM. Seriously, take a look.

8. I'll put forward Pin-point's 陰湿オタクにイカれる妹(彼女) Inshitsu Otaku ni Ikareru Imouto (Kanojo) Dude and his slightly younger sister live together by themselves and are in love with each other, but someone else finds out about their relationship and uses it to blackmail and put the moves on her. A nice little bit of mystery in the beginning of the brother's route, then as the girl is gradually corrupted you find out what she was doing at different times. Also, the art is done by Takeda Hiromitsu!

9. If you haven't checked out the Kansen 姦染 series by Speed yet, climb out from under your rock and do so. It's not NTR strictly speaking, but it's more than worth it. Basically, a viral outbreak turns people into for lack of a better term... sex zombies(there's no gore/guro, so no worries there). Awwwww yeah. The rage comes from watching your girlfriend and other loved ones get raped(these are invariably the unrealistic 'happy' kind of rape scenes where they don't want to at first and by the end they're, well, they're a sex zombie...) then turned into zombie whores. After which, the girls starts coming after you, often begging you to take them. Or sometimes, you're the one who gets infected and turns on them. Each game has LOTS of endings and different choices to make, as well as alternate viewpoints at different times, and makes for a very enjoyable experience if you have the time to sit down with them. They are, in order:
Kansen 1 - School
Kansen 2 - Mall (Be warned this one has yaoi content, but once you identify the target, it's pretty easy to skip through)
Kansen 3 - School and Town/Department Store
Kansen 4 - Camping Trip/Vacation more rural setting than the previous games
Kansen 5 - Hotel/Beach/Forest
 
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[MENTION=14209]Action Bastard[/MENTION] Dark Blue when it came out was a disappointment, and was stated as such in the old thread. If you notice we talk really good about the blue series, but then we never mention that one in particular, like, ever. So here in the last few days when everyone was like... oh Dark blue, that exists???? Yeah it does, but they did not know, nor did we talk about it much.... for a reason.

Gonna check out the Kansen Games like you suggested.
Found some links for others to check it out as well

Kansen 1 - Cant Find it, can someone please see if they can, i suck at this.

Kansen 2 ~ Crime City / Anime Sharing DL Links (Not Confirmed if Working yet)
http://www.anime-sharing.com/forum/hentai-games-38/japanese-[070615][speed]-姦染2~淫罪都市~-25807/

Kansen 3 ~ Capital Collapse / Anime Sharing DL Links (Not Confirmed if Working yet)
http://www.anime-sharing.com/forum/hentai-cg-packs-24/[081128][speed]-姦染3-~首都崩壊~-14946/

Kansen 4 ~ The Day After / Anime Sharing, DL Links (not confirmed if working yet)
http://www.anime-sharing.com/forum/...0430-[us][wu][fsn]-姦染4~-day-after~-初回版-22706/

Kansen 5 ~ The Day Break / Anime Sharing, Active Torrent Girlcelly!
http://www.anime-sharing.com/forum/...ed]-姦染5~-daybreak~-初回版-update-[h-game]-38323/
 
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[MENTION=14209]Action Bastard[/MENTION] your #7 I agree, cause i too love their work and Kansen is awesome check out the h-anime also.
 
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[WINTERS] こんなアタシでゴメンなさい Was pretty awesome, loved the artwork, it was rather hot, but short, Mostly Type B-1 Which is my fav, with a little Type B-2

It came with 2 other games that where, not as awesome. One of them has the same chick from this game, with a completely different personality. Really whoreish.... did not go over well with me, based off how much i liked her personality in the main game. right off the hop she is getting down and dirty, it just did not fit, clearly a different Writer then the previous game with absolutely no idea what he is doing. There might of been sex drugs involved, but when you destroy the girls purity in the first 4 minutes, it matters not how many times she cheats after that, no baseline feelings, no point.

Second game was not as great either, only one NTR line, and its Pretty much Type C, and then afterwords with most of the endings you end up treating her like shit, im not down the concept of, oh you have been soiled therefore now you are trash. Especially when its not there fault, its yours for actually deciding not to help and save them but instead up and let it happen.

うちの妹のばあい(はあと) I cannot get AGTH to hook with this damn game.....
Edit: i had to manually Hook AGTH with the command line through properties on the games .exe Shortcut, for some reason Translation Aggregator was not hooking.

Figured i would state how to fix it here in case anyone decides to play it, someone has too, this forum post has barely been here even a month and has over 20 thousand views. Clearly did the right thing by moving us here.

Anyways, Playing now, fingers crossed, like the artwork so far.
 
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[MENTION=14089]Animefan_09[/MENTION]
"NTR thread regulars" picks mixed with games I personally like/find interesting. In no particular order:
とらいあんぐるBLUE http://vndb.org/v2697 (meh)
True Blue http://vndb.org/v2069
Imitation Lover http://vndb.org/v1074 (only in 1 route)
不幸な神 http://vndb.org/v327
姉恋模様 http://vndb.org/v259 (vastly underrated)
他の男の精液で孕んでもいいですか…?1 http://vndb.org/v3787 (even more vastly underrated)
他の男の精液で孕んでもいいですか…?3 http://vndb.org/v5160 (one of my favs)
愛のチカラ http://vndb.org/v2307 (one of my favs, incl. swinging)
とりかえっ娘しよッ! http://vndb.org/v639 (incl. swinging)
淫DAYS http://vndb.org/v3117
Innocent Blue http://vndb.org/v2068
Angels Blue http://vndb.org/v1888
Dark Blue http://vndb.org/v2715 (reading this right now)
媚肉の香り http://vndb.org/v470 (awesome game with great character development and dialogue, don't play it for the NTR)
果てしなく青い、この空の下で…。 [完全版] http://vndb.org/v1107 (spread across routes, love this game, don't play it for the NTR)
Anonymous http://vndb.org/v579 (images with text vital to the story)
ただかの http://vndb.org/v5163
Reversible http://vndb.org/v1416 (only in 1 route, both netori and netorare, really hot gangbang scenes, gif ani.)
人間デブリ http://vndb.org/v5519
ボクの彼女はガテン系 http://vndb.org/v8731 (duh)
ヤンヅマ心春 ~お前の嫁は俺のモノ~ http://vndb.org/v7149 (hot as balls, couple shota scenes)
こんなアタシでゴメンなさい・・・ ~真冬外伝~ http://vndb.org/v4266
うちの妹のばあい(はあと)http://vndb.org/v2237
あい☆きゃん http://vndb.org/v2205
妻陥落 http://vndb.org/v6904
愛妻 【reverse side】http://vndb.org/v4781
それでも妻を愛してる http://vndb.org/v6593 (lol Team Bitters)
彼女が見舞いに来ない理由 http://vndb.org/v2107 (lol Team Bitters)
俺は彼女を信じてる! http://vndb.org/v495 (lol Team Bitters)
and I'm tired, I'll add more as I remember/care.

:toohot:

I found this list quite useful. I was aware of more than half, but it's hard to find out about the older ones since getchu doesn't always put the ntr tag on them since they didn't add it until the last 4-5 years.
I've managed to find most of them here and there, though downloading them may take a while and finding the time to play them might take a very long while. But it's nice to have the option.

The only one I'm having trouble finding is 淫DAYS which does look like mostly nukige, but still irks me that every torrent and link I find is dead. My ability to hunt down this stuff is usually pretty good too. Damned filehost apocalypse has been ruining my fun for weeks. Damn you US copyright law. Damn you to hell! :punch:

[MENTION=14209]Action Bastard[/MENTION] That #8 you mentioned was actually one of the first proper NTR eroge I played. "Proper" meaning it had the fetish as the main focus, rather than it simply being on one of the routes of the game. I was attracted because I was pretty into Takeda Hiromitsu at the time, though since then I've slowly begun to find his stuff too predictable. It wasn't the best NTR game I ever played, but the mystery side was decent. It was just a pain that they gave you the option to choose between the MC and the heroine point of view as soon as they separate since it meant that you knew something was going to happen after that point and after the mystery tension began to grow, I had a hard time not clicking on the heroine's PoV just to satisfy my curiosity.

Keep the good suggestions coming. I'd add something myself, but every NTR game I know worth playing has already been mentioned so.....

Edit. Ha! Found 淫DAYS as well. Found every single game on that list that I didn't already have. Worship me! :D
 
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genius can you pass the link to http://vndb.org/v3117 this? it intrigued me how the ntr could develop in this one

PD: i was reading (or trying at least) the page of the ntr erectclip game that comes out this month and at the end of the page more or less i saw that they mentioned ntr a,b,c is this a mention to the types of ntr that exists or implying that the game has routes that develop in the 3 ways? (if if the second i am so gonna use atlas with this one, it would be the the perfect "what if" game)
 
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Great!!! To think that i would find nakama of NTR genre here!!!
 
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[MENTION=14209]Action Bastard[/MENTION] Yeah Autobahn is awesome. I've only played Kansen 4 after hearing the call of the heroine's pantyhosed ass. I didn't like the tomboyish girl but the game is quite fun, great art too, if you like gangbangs accept no substitutes.

[MENTION=13786]Telsa[/MENTION] Glad you liked the game, it's no masterpiece but worth a read. I've been looking for my うちの妹のばあい copy since I store the agth code with every game but I couldn't find it. I did find this code online: /HA4@4493A0 but it didn't specify the version (ntr or true love).

[MENTION=14547]Bay K.W. Arde[/MENTION] You will be right at home here then.

[MENTION=7208]DiabolicalGenius[/MENTION] Yes, 淫DAYS is basically nukige, but I liked the idea of making a porno of your girlfriend. And our ntr eroge OCD demands every game in existence, so might as well get it. AGTH code for the game: /HSC@4044C0
That company (Red Label) has more games with NTR that I have but never played, http://vndb.org/v2028 and http://vndb.org/v5318


Just remembered this game:

乳姫大祭 http://vndb.org/v6309 (incl. consensual gangbang hell yes)
 
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[MENTION=14089]Animefan_09[/MENTION] Well they're not my links so I'd rather not just post them here in case they get reported. So I'll send you a pm with a link to the site where I found it if that's ok?

[MENTION=14059]tf2spy[/MENTION] Yeah that premise does sound intriguing. Even if the plot is weak, I'd still like to see how it works out. And yes, it does kind of feel like OCD sometimes doesn't it?
Think I might check out one of those other Red Label ones. Already have the miko one. :D
Thanks again for the info.
 
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Been on downloading spree with Ateliar Sakuya's NTR work. Some of this are just plain hard to find the final end. Anyone had saved files?

Also somebody here got a link for Orcsoft's Butahime-same eroge? can't find that one anywhere. I got the Aisai Nikki and Osananajimi which are damn awesome, with nice art and dialog.
 
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[MENTION=14547]Bay K.W. Arde[/MENTION]

Here is a Stream of Buta Hime-sama
http://www.xvideos.com/video1306013/buta_hime-sama_01

And here is a Nyaa Torrent straight from Sub-Desu themselves, and its active
http://sukebei.nyaa.eu/?page=torrentinfo&tid=62943

The think reason you did not find it was its specifically spaced like this (Buta Hime-sama) at least i can only speculate that thats it for searching for Butahime together got me no workable results either.
 
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[MENTION=7186]Prettz[/MENTION] The Fileserve links work, I've started the download without problems.
 
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[MENTION=13786]Telsa[/MENTION]

Sorry if you misinterpreted my words. What I mean is the Eroge not the anime of Butahime-sama. I have been looking this game for quite the time and still no result, Kanji for the game have not brought me anywhere. So some help will be thankful.

I have already downloaded the anime version some time ago, I'm a frequent user of SubDesu-H.

Well, I'll be waiting for more positive response. Those Atelier Sakuya game are just annoying but I'm a sucker for NTR.

So, Dark Blue is indeed part of the Blue Series. I though it was a horror eroge. I'm gonna install it again
 
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[MENTION=14547]Bay K.W. Arde[/MENTION]

My bad, and actually you did say eroge, i did not see that. So to make up for my fail =
The magic search term we where looking for is [101229][ORCSOFT]豚姫様 which is what the game itself is widely distributed as across the pirate nations.

Here is Working Fileserve Links here on Anime Sharing, My bad for not reading it clearly.
http://www.anime-sharing.com/forum/hentai-games-38/japanese-[orc-soft]豚姫様[101229]-541-mb-30968/

And here is the savedata for kicks Since i dug hard enough i found everything.
http://anonym.to/?http://sagaoz.net/savedata/dojin/queenmeetsorc_intom.zip

Enjoy your completed Collection
 
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Hello, can you please reupload https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ154687.html & https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ269035.html (mexa or rosefile) & Part 3 of this on mexa if it's not a problem - https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ262921.html (threads too long to link, sorry)