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[mspykez]

Coming from another forum heres my thoughts on AS, mostly feedback, nothing personal!


Can we please have some more organized sections and subsections?

Looks like everything non-adult is supposed to be on the SOCIAL SECTION forum and all the 18+ on the PURE AND INNOCENT ROOM forum thou it's not explicit mentioned anywhere that that is the rule so I guess that there will always be something of 18+ nature being posted on the SOCIAL SECTION forum, but if you say it like this ' PURE AND INNOCENT ROOM (18+)' users would immediately pay attention to it and such scenarios would be avoided!

My take on the PURE AND INNOCENT ROOM forum is that anime (hentai) and manga (hentai) should have their own separated section just like EROGE has theirs otherwise why bother put Eroge separated from the rest? might as well integrate it into the Hentai Corner too no?

Looking at Hentai/Eroge Corner sections and even some of the normal Anime/Manga Talk sections I see a real mess of 'where is this from', 'game not working..', 'recommend me..', etc, and hardly see a serious discussion about a specific Game or OVA that is or is to be released. This leads me to believe that the typical 'Identify' and 'Recommend' STICKY threads are a must have! in additional to that the very common 'How to..' threads about installing, running and playing Japanese games or frequently encounter problems should also be made STICKY! (on the DLL Hentai game forums theres some threads about this topic that are hard to spot, and should also be present on the Eroge Corner section!), on the Anime forums make a STICKY about CCCP! so instead of people making a new thread just to ask why their game won't start or their Anime isn't playing or is all black, etc they should be redirected to these sticky threads! It's the only way I see this sections going back on track! right now they are more like general sections than anything else.

The 'Tech Support and Talk' section is great but it seems to be underestimated, for instance people are asking questions about tools like VNR on the Eroge section like it is the appropriate place tbh I'm not even sure if it is, but if it isn't why don't the mods stop scratching their balls and move the threads to their proper place? Speaking off the Tech forum please make some prefixes like GUIDE/TUTORIAL, APP/TOOL, HELP-GAME, HELP-PLAYBACK, etc and make the more important ones STICKY like the ITH/Translator Aggregator guide not only on the Tech forum but also on the related forums like the Eroge section or the Hentai Games download section, same thing can be said about having an CCCP sticky on the Anime section, etc, there's questions all around in all places, everywhere seems fine when it really isn't, even a thread about hcodes is at loose running around on the Eroge Corner that nobody cares I dunno, maybe make it STICKY?

Now to the DOWNLOADS AND REQUESTS it appears that you do not separate adult from non-adult content like you do with the SOCIAL SECTION and the PURE AND INNOCENT ROOM forums and its all on the same basket, for children's sake who just want to get some anime perhaps you should have all adult forums hidden by default or have one of those warnings that adult sites have when you try to access them for the first time (no offense it's just my opinion, and I know that in most cases this will not stop the kids). Moving on... what I would like to see as mandatory is the total release file size on the release titles especially on the torrent section where some uploaders don't bother and when I click a magnet link BOOM SURPRISE MF here goes 5G of HD space!
About each of the sections in DOWNLOADS AND REQUESTS forum, first let me ask why theres no prefixes on all of the Requests subsections of this forums save 'Otome Game Requests'? they can be useful on other places too! Looking at the sections I really do not get what you take on consideration to sort this sections in this order but I will follow it anyway (I don't suppose it's possible to customize the order on the user side?):

New Releases > Can't get what is the criteria for this, what new releases are you talking about? Surely there is lots of new stuff that do not end up here and looking at the prefixes there's some sections that are indeed ignored.

Anime > Theres no need to have prefixes on the /Anime/ since theres no releases there, only the subsections present inside /Anime/ have releases. So everything here is supposed to have been translated into English but according to the guidelines that might not be so and there is no language prefixes here... what about having some RAW subsections there instead for non-english releases?

Artbooks & CG Packs > here is a section that you separate with hentai and non-hentai subsections that IMO justifies why you should have a DOWNLOADS AND REQUESTS for adults and a DOWNLOADS AND REQUESTS for non-adults forum, It's nice and all to have it separated in a subsection but in effect it will always get mixed out like for example when requesting something and you only make life easier for children to find out those things, or hard because some of them have their parents on their shoulders and want to stay away from any incriminating 18+ stuff.

Hentai Games > perhaps theres quite a number of English releases here that deserve there own English subsection instead of having to use prefixes.

Console Games > Is there a reason for having a 'Console Section Guidelines' here instead in the proper 'Forum Rules & Guidelines' like happens with any other section? 'Other Systems' subsection is missing the prefixes.

Hentai Ovas > like the 'Hentai Games' section theres quite a number of English releases here that deserve there own subsection instead of having to use prefixes. At least theres an english index. Q: can we also have an Uncensored prefix?

Manga & Doujinshi > same as the 'Artbooks & CG Packs' section can be applied here. Also it's confusing to know what is translated and whatnot, the Manga subsections are ok everyone knows that RAW Manga is on japanese so the other Manga subsections must be exclusive to English, but then you use language prefixes for the Doujinshi subsections instead of a RAW subsection like you do with the Manga! Btw what about Manhwa and other related stuff? does it all go in this basket as well or should we have special subsections for it?

Music > Like in the 'Anime' section theres no need to have prefixes on the /Music/ since theres no releases there, only the subsections present inside /Music/ have releases.

Voice Works > same thing I said about the 'Artbooks & CG Packs' section.

Otome Games & Artbooks > nice of you to have a dedicated section for Otome thou I wonder where are the guidelines for posting here. If we have a section just for this why not also have a yaoi section surely someone would like it as well, same thing for Dating Sims, Galge, Nakige, Nukige and so on, the very least what about making prefixes for all? btw may I ask why afaik this is the only section on the entire forum that doesn't allow to view threads while logged off from the site?

Miscellaneous > looks to be mostly filled with all-aged VNs, better off open a section just for that and leave 'Miscellaneous' for what really is miscellaneous.

Extreme Content > what goes in here is very debatable, could as easily go on a normal section or not be allowed at all, for the greater good consider all new threads created here to be pre-approved by mods before they become visible, should not be that hard to accomplish that, rarely anyone posts anything there.

Graveyard > is it only used for Anime? seems like it is just by looking at the prefixes...

Torrents > I left this one for last because I have mixed feelings about it. Not sure that I like the idea of having everything that is torrents all in one place disregarding the category it belongs to, I certainly would not like to see torrents on the same boat as the DLL threads, I think it would be best to have DLL and a Torrent forum each with their own sections, IMO at least the most popular categories on the Torrent section like H-Games and H-OVAs could have a subsection of their own. Right now the torrent section is not bombarded as hard as the DLL sections are with new threads so it's not much trouble, either way would be nice to separate each egg to their own basket. There are a lot of prefixes missing here that are found on other sections and since pretty much everything can be posted on Torrents I expected all prefixes to be present, I would very much like to see Language prefixes.


that is all :) take what you see fit, trash what you want!

 

[Checkmate]

I agree about some organization issue with how the section and subsection work.

We have been having internal discussion of how we are going to re-organize them in recent weeks. We will take your valued opinion into consideration.

For now I can't release any details for it yet.

 

[mspykez]

Theres some direct questions that you could answer meantime?
Good luck with the overall restructure of the forum, lets take it to a knew lvl of seriously!

 

[Checkmate]

Well, in replying to some of your concern regarding the children's sake part - unfortunately, we won't be doing anything about it as the site is really made for adult, over 18 only. We won't be over zealously categorize these. It's only for the purpose of Work (aka SFW or NSFW). Also, not all non 18+ stuff is... safe for children either. In fact, none of the content on the forum is for children.

 

[mspykez]

Nice to answer ONE of my concerns, I will keep my eye open to see what will happen on the following weeks regarding other things I pointed out.

 

[Ignis]

Thank you for your detailed input. I'll take a shot at going through all your points and address them accordingly.

Looks like everything non-adult is supposed to be on the SOCIAL SECTION forum and all the 18+ on the PURE AND INNOCENT ROOM forum thou it's not explicit mentioned anywhere that that is the rule so I guess that there will always be something of 18+ nature being posted on the SOCIAL SECTION forum, but if you say it like this ' PURE AND INNOCENT ROOM (18+)' users would immediately pay attention to it and such scenarios would be avoided!

There are a few points to tackle here. First of all, while the use of the phrase "Pure and Innocent" to name the section was borne out of an inside joke mocking Checkmate's referring to himself as being "pure and innocent," you don't have to be a writer for The Onion to understand the irony. I'd argue that the corresponding subsections located directly beneath the big "PURE AND INNOCENT ROOM" phrase would directly give it away. Making it otherwise totally obvious would undermine the small artistic expression embodying the creation of the section.

Naming aside, the separate realms of chastity and debauchery are differentiated by the subject matter of a given discussion, not whether a thread contains adult material at all. If all one seeks is a sophisticated conversation about the finer fabrics of carnal pleasures, they should head straight to the Pure and Innocent Room. However, sections such as General Discussions & Debates see serious threads from time to time, some of which could have details unsuitable to children within. One could, for example, talk about issues like abortion or prostitution from the angle of controversy, focusing on opinions and viewpoints surrounding it. The nature of such topics, nonetheless, dictates that there will be explicit utterances every now and then.

Should such threads be moved to the Pure and Innocent Room just because they may have minor explicit stuff here and there? No; that's not the kind of topic people expect in a section focused on adult talk. Consequently, your average kid would likely avoid stumbling into such topics in the first place.

My take on the PURE AND INNOCENT ROOM forum is that anime (hentai) and manga (hentai) should have their own separated section just like EROGE has theirs otherwise why bother put Eroge separated from the rest? might as well integrate it into the Hentai Corner too no?

The forum was made by eroge enthusiasts. As such, you may find that eroge do indeed get more favourable bias than other forms of creative works. I could also opine that, unlike hentai anime and manga, eroge emphasise on plot―not PLOT―more often and pour in adult content only as seasoning (in the sense there are likely more eroge than hentai anime and manga that would still stand if all adult content were stripped off of them), resulting in more to talk about. Subjective tastes and opinions aside, Eroge Corner thrives considerably better than its peers even after you count in all those threads asking for technical assistance in running games, so that's what will survive for the foreseeable future. As it stands, Hentai Corner currently doesn't have enough specialised threads to warrant individual subsections.

Looking at Hentai/Eroge Corner sections and even some of the normal Anime/Manga Talk sections I see a real mess of 'where is this from', 'game not working..', 'recommend me..', etc, and hardly see a serious discussion about a specific Game or OVA that is or is to be released. This leads me to believe that the typical 'Identify' and 'Recommend' STICKY threads are a must have!

Please take a look at this thread: http://www.anime-sharing.com/forum/...sticky-requests-titles-sources-search-159204/

in additional to that the very common 'How to..' threads about installing, running and playing Japanese games or frequently encounter problems should also be made STICKY! (on the DLL Hentai game forums theres some threads about this topic that are hard to spot, and should also be present on the Eroge Corner section!)

Indeed, most troubleshooting threads relate to either one of these two threads. Eroge Corner, however, was not designed or envisioned to be "Eroge Troubleshooting Corner." With all due respect, we expect users to have done their due diligence first before asking for help, not less because skipping helpful sticky threads by the rationale that they're "hard to spot" isn't going to make it look tempting to provide assistance.

on the Anime forums make a STICKY about CCCP! so instead of people making a new thread just to ask why their game won't start or their Anime isn't playing or is all black, etc they should be redirected to these sticky threads! It's the only way I see this sections going back on track! right now they are more like general sections than anything else.

Without generalising things, do we have threads in Anime Talk asking for assistance with playing anime?

The 'Tech Support and Talk' section is great but it seems to be underestimated, for instance people are asking questions about tools like VNR on the Eroge section like it is the appropriate place tbh I'm not even sure if it is, but if it isn't why don't the mods stop scratching their balls and move the threads to their proper place? Speaking off the Tech forum please make some prefixes like GUIDE/TUTORIAL, APP/TOOL, HELP-GAME, HELP-PLAYBACK, etc and make the more important ones STICKY like the ITH/Translator Aggregator guide not only on the Tech forum but also on the related forums like the Eroge section or the Hentai Games download section, same thing can be said about having an CCCP sticky on the Anime section, etc, there's questions all around in all places, everywhere seems fine when it really isn't, even a thread about hcodes is at loose running around on the Eroge Corner that nobody cares I dunno, maybe make it STICKY?

Or how about, you know, asking the ball-scratching mods whether the threads you mentioned are okay to remain where they are, instead of being absorbed in smelling their fingernails? As for thread prefixes, while what you're suggesting is definitely viable and not in and of itself bad, allow me to alert you to the lack of prefixes similarly found in other discussion sections if you've never noticed it before. "Importance" is of course a subjective parameter to define, but regardless of what's finally determined "important" or "unimportant," you could always ask a mod responsible for a given section to sticky threads you think deserve extra attention. You don't even need to get 100 000 people to sign your petition just to make yourself heard in asking a favour. All in all, your input with regards to prefixes is worthy to consider, thank you.

Now to the DOWNLOADS AND REQUESTS it appears that you do not separate adult from non-adult content like you do with the SOCIAL SECTION and the PURE AND INNOCENT ROOM forums and its all on the same basket, for children's sake who just want to get some anime perhaps you should have all adult forums hidden by default or have one of those warnings that adult sites have when you try to access them for the first time (no offense it's just my opinion, and I know that in most cases this will not stop the kids).

If by "hidden" you mean available only to registered users (or users who have passed certain thresholds like having X posts or having been registered for Y days), that's against our policy. Suffice to say that it's not going to happen. As for pop-up warnings and the like, we've all been kids before. We knew how "restriction" read "challenge" and "forbidden" meant "come at me bro" in our dictionary.

Moving on... what I would like to see as mandatory is the total release file size on the release titles especially on the torrent section where some uploaders don't bother and when I click a magnet link BOOM SURPRISE MF here goes 5G of HD space!

I don't think this is such a big issue, seeing that the file size of a torrent is revealed as soon as it's added to the client or you connect to a peer. It's not like you have to waste all 5GB of your bandwidth and space before knowing that the torrent would indeed consume 5GB.

About each of the sections in DOWNLOADS AND REQUESTS forum, first let me ask why theres no prefixes on all of the Requests subsections of this forums save 'Otome Game Requests'? they can be useful on other places too!

That's mainly because, unlike most other download sections, the Otome Games & Artbooks section is a split of genre rather than platform. As such, it's a hub comprising a chunk of hentai games, a chunk of console games (of various platforms) and a chunk of artbooks. This is worthy of consideration, however, and we'll see if implementing this will turn out to be favourable.

Looking at the sections I really do not get what you take on consideration to sort this sections in this order but I will follow it anyway (I don't suppose it's possible to customize the order on the user side?):

No. At best, you can only hide ("collapse") major sections of the forum as shown on the homepage.

New Releases > Can't get what is the criteria for this, what new releases are you talking about? Surely there is lots of new stuff that do not end up here and looking at the prefixes there's some sections that are indeed ignored.

Currently, this section is only for recent ongoing anime uploads. The section is there to mainly facilitate the use of feed; we have a bot on our IRC channel that announces content newly added there. A section of this nature is viable for anime and only for anime because currently ongoing anime uploads are entirely maintained by staff.

Anime > Theres no need to have prefixes on the /Anime/ since theres no releases there, only the subsections present inside /Anime/ have releases.

What prefixes are you referring to?

So everything here is supposed to have been translated into English but according to the guidelines that might not be so and there is no language prefixes here...

Thread prefixes, by their very nature, can represent only one certain category. Having language prefixes alongside prefixes for resolutions would only break the premise. Users willing to share anime subbed in languages other than English can always manually add the language to their thread title.

what about having some RAW subsections there instead for non-english releases?

There's hardly any demand for that as of now. If people start sharing those and the trend gains enough traction we may reconsider.

Artbooks & CG Packs > here is a section that you separate with hentai and non-hentai subsections that IMO justifies why you should have a DOWNLOADS AND REQUESTS for adults and a DOWNLOADS AND REQUESTS for non-adults forum, It's nice and all to have it separated in a subsection but in effect it will always get mixed out like for example when requesting something and you only make life easier for children to find out those things, or hard because some of them have their parents on their shoulders and want to stay away from any incriminating 18+ stuff.

Just to be clear, your suggestion presupposes that

• children frequent this site;
• children frequent this site while their parents can see their screen;
• children frequenting this site while their parents can see their screen don't mind surfing all the way to the non-adult-oriented content they want to download whilst being watched by vigilant eyes;
• said parents are meticulous enough that, even when faced with possibly illegible foreign words written in equally illegible foreign letters on their children's computer screen, still refuse to take their eyes off of it or dismiss it as their children merely browsing a hobby site;
• parents who are meticulous enough to get past the previous stage don't demand additional information from their children on what the site's about or whether or not it contains objectionable content;
• parents aren't intelligent enough to understand what's what on their own by simply looking at the forum homepage;
• children frequenting this site while their intelligent parents can see their screen don't already use features like bookmarks to skip past the homepage to their 'safe' area;
• non-adult-oriented sections are totally free from things parents may find objectionable;
• nobody in the forum uses suggestive or otherwise objectionable avatar or signature images;
• parents will unquestionably find 2D anime-style girls scantily clad in swimsuits to be perfectly acceptable, as long as no private parts are shown; and
• parents don't already associate the aforementioned with, no matter how chaste, "hentai."

Also, you seem to imply that separating adult-oriented content from non-adult-oriented (not necessarily "all ages") content is necessary to help the children frequenting this site from incurring the wrath of their parents. No, no. You're doing it wrong. It needs to be done to protect the children from such filth. Please, won't someone think of the children?

Hentai Games > perhaps theres quite a number of English releases here that deserve there own English subsection instead of having to use prefixes.

This is a viable suggestion, albeit its implementation would virtually invalidate the use of prefixes within the Hentai Games section itself. We'll look into it.

Console Games > Is there a reason for having a 'Console Section Guidelines' here instead in the proper 'Forum Rules & Guidelines' like happens with any other section?

It was likely a remnant of the old rules and guidelines. It was never considered harmful in and of itself; however, those remnants should indeed be eventually cleaned. Thank you for bringing this to our attention.

'Other Systems' subsection is missing the prefixes.

The very purpose of having this section is to let people share games from whatever consoles they please. Having predefined prefixes would defeat this purpose.

Hentai Ovas > like the 'Hentai Games' section theres quite a number of English releases here that deserve there own subsection instead of having to use prefixes. At least theres an english index.

Please see above about the similar issue with the Hentai Games section.

Q: can we also have an Uncensored prefix?

Please see above for my elaboration on thread prefixes with regards to language prefixes in the anime section.

Manga & Doujinshi > same as the 'Artbooks & CG Packs' section can be applied here.

Please see my elaborations above regarding this issue.

Also it's confusing to know what is translated and whatnot,

Are you by any chance unfamiliar with the term "scanlation" (and derivations thereof)? It's even made its way to a comprehensive Wikipedia entry, kindly do check it out.

the Manga subsections are ok everyone knows that RAW Manga is on japanese so the other Manga subsections must be exclusive to English, but then you use language prefixes for the Doujinshi subsections instead of a RAW subsection like you do with the Manga!

I'm not sure what's confusing here. Most doujinshi scanlations aren't done in a series basis like regular manga. And, more often than not, people seek hentai doujinshi rather than non-hentai doujinshi. That's the rationale behind splitting the subsections as such. With the different language prefixes there are for doujinshi, I trust it's not hard to know which ones are translated, no?

Btw what about Manhwa and other related stuff? does it all go in this basket as well or should we have special subsections for it?

Ssame as always: they won't get their own separate (sub)sections unless people start sharing a decent amount of them and the trend gains traction. For the time being, they can go under Raw Manga.

Music > Like in the 'Anime' section theres no need to have prefixes on the /Music/ since theres no releases there, only the subsections present inside /Music/ have releases.

I still don't get this, would you be so kind as to elaborate? If by "prefixes" you're referring to thread prefixes, no post can be made in the Music or Anime categories anyway, so what's the problem?

Voice Works > same thing I said about the 'Artbooks & CG Packs' section.

Again, please see above.

Otome Games & Artbooks > nice of you to have a dedicated section for Otome thou I wonder where are the guidelines for posting here.

As I briefly mentioned above, this section is one separated by genre instead of platform. If you want to post an otome game, use the hentai game guidelines (it makes no difference to formatting whether or not the content is adult-oriented); if you want to post an otome console game, use the console game guidelines; if you want to post an otome artbook, use the artbook guidelines. Easy enough.

If we have a section just for this why not also have a yaoi section surely someone would like it as well, same thing for Dating Sims, Galge, Nakige, Nukige and so on, the very least what about making prefixes for all?

Having a yaoi section in tandem with otome section would be superfluous. It's a niche below a niche. And the examples you gave are all genres. As previously mentioned, we separate content by platform or by the nature of the creative works in a given field rather than by genre. This is because a creative work can and often does represent more than just one genre―for example, an eroge can be classified as both nakige for having a sad story and nukige for having high sexual content alongside the actually substantial plot, while obviously being a form of galge as well―making it not just possible, but entirely probable and even likely that there will be confusion as to which genre a given work should be classified as. With the way we currently separate sections, there should be little to no possibility of a work belonging to more than one subsection. Using prefixes is equally not viable for reasons previously stated.

If the Extreme Content section was made out of necessity as most people either like or hate such content with there being no middle ground, the otome section is a different beast borne out of our decision and popular demand. To avoid the confusion I elaborated, we arm the Extreme Content section with virtually all prefixes available for the Downloads and Requests category, thereby eliminating the need to differentiate by genre. However, there's a reason the otome section is meant only for games and artbooks: classifying creative works of other natures, such as anime and manga, as belonging to the otome genre is arguably riddled with more subjectivism.

btw may I ask why afaik this is the only section on the entire forum that doesn't allow to view threads while logged off from the site?

This section has seen more objectionable uses by external sources than most other. We took what steps we considered necessary to prevent more such misuses.

Miscellaneous > looks to be mostly filled with all-aged VNs, better off open a section just for that and leave 'Miscellaneous' for what really is miscellaneous.

We've already been considering this option. Thank you for your input.

Extreme Content > what goes in here is very debatable, could as easily go on a normal section or not be allowed at all,

We lay out a few examples in the guidelines of what we think should belong to the section. But of course, there's a reason most of our rules and guidelines contain the three magic words or variations thereof: "staff discretion applies."

for the greater good consider all new threads created here to be pre-approved by mods before they become visible, should not be that hard to accomplish that, rarely anyone posts anything there.

I take it you're not familiar with how our system works? (A plan is underway to revamp it, but as it currently stands, it already does what you're suggesting.)

Graveyard > is it only used for Anime? seems like it is just by looking at the prefixes...

Actually no, it's just that our caretaker for the anime section is more diligent than others by orders of magnitude. He finds and weeds out the bad apples more thoroughly than others do, that's all. That doesn't necessarily mean that the section is restricted for anime threads only.

Torrents > I left this one for last because I have mixed feelings about it. Not sure that I like the idea of having everything that is torrents all in one place disregarding the category it belongs to, I certainly would not like to see torrents on the same boat as the DLL threads, I think it would be best to have DLL and a Torrent forum each with their own sections, IMO at least the most popular categories on the Torrent section like H-Games and H-OVAs could have a subsection of their own. Right now the torrent section is not bombarded as hard as the DLL sections are with new threads so it's not much trouble, either way would be nice to separate each egg to their own basket. There are a lot of prefixes missing here that are found on other sections and since pretty much everything can be posted on Torrents I expected all prefixes to be present, I would very much like to see Language prefixes.

I'm not sure what you mean with "DLL threads"―from the context, I assume you mean "miscellaneous threads"? (Or do you really mean DLL as in Windows resources?) Either way, as mentioned previously by Checkmate, we've already been considering reorganising the torrents section and drafting plans on how we should categorise the myriad of content therein. Unfortunately, we're not yet at the stage where we can disclose the details.

that is all :) take what you see fit, trash what you want!

It's been a while since a member wrote comprehensive, thoughtful feedback and suggestions covering various aspects of the way we roll. We appreciate and thank you for your time in providing us valuable input. We hope the reply provided will prove satisfactory.

 

[mspykez]

Thanks for the detailed reply. I get what you mean 18+ forum is 18+ forum and there's no simple way around it.

The forum was made by eroge enthusiasts. As such, you may find that eroge do indeed get more favourable bias than other forms of creative works. I could also opine that, unlike hentai anime and manga, eroge emphasise on plot―not PLOT―more often and pour in adult content only as seasoning (in the sense there are likely more eroge than hentai anime and manga that would still stand if all adult content were stripped off of them), resulting in more to talk about. Subjective tastes and opinions aside, Eroge Corner thrives considerably better than its peers even after you count in all those threads asking for technical assistance in running games, so that's what will survive for the foreseeable future. As it stands, Hentai Corner currently doesn't have enough specialised threads to warrant individual subsections.

You may be right here or could it be just that people are not inclined to participated in a mixed mess where they can't talk about specifically concerning what they truly want.

Please take a look at this thread: http://www.anime-sharing.com/forum/...sticky-requests-titles-sources-search-159204/

I saw the points made, again I'm in favor of having a all Section just for ID requests where people can open/close their own thread if nothing else, like the likes of the Tech Forum, and with prefixes it would be easy to navigate.

Indeed, most troubleshooting threads relate to either one of these two threads. Eroge Corner, however, was not designed or envisioned to be "Eroge Troubleshooting Corner." With all due respect, we expect users to have done their due diligence first before asking for help, not less because skipping helpful sticky threads by the rationale that they're "hard to spot" isn't going to make it look tempting to provide assistance.

Those 2 threads are old in a way that there are new tools around, better tools, better ways of playing eroge, ete, besides they appear to me to be located on the end of the earth and assume that everyone checks the Hentai Games forum and download from there, they could go for torrents instead and totally miss it. Anyhow this is why I expect a more organized tech forum so we have more comprehensive guides, I myself may post a couple.

Without generalising things, do we have threads in Anime Talk asking for assistance with playing anime?

Is just a way to say that with troubleshooting sticky threads we can have a more organized forum regardless of what the problem really is, but since you focus your attention more to the Tech forum let it be that way instead.

If by "hidden" you mean available only to registered users (or users who have passed certain thresholds like having X posts or having been registered for Y days), that's against our policy. Suffice to say that it's not going to happen. As for pop-up warnings and the like, we've all been kids before. We knew how "restriction" read "challenge" and "forbidden" meant "come at me bro" in our dictionary.

I applaud your bravery and just can hope that nothing goes wrong with the authority aka 'world police' or 'internet police', we all know what they are capable off and what happen to other forums, lets just keep our fingers crossed and see if the type of contend here are not important enough for them to bother.

I don't think this is such a big issue, seeing that the file size of a torrent is revealed as soon as it's added to the client or you connect to a peer. It's not like you have to waste all 5GB of your bandwidth and space before knowing that the torrent would indeed consume 5GB.

Maybe not for you but when you are adding multiple torrents blind one after the other regarding their size when your HD is already running low in space it can be annoying at best.

That's mainly because, unlike most other download sections, the Otome Games & Artbooks section is a split of genre rather than platform. As such, it's a hub comprising a chunk of hentai games, a chunk of console games (of various platforms) and a chunk of artbooks. This is worthy of consideration, however, and we'll see if implementing this will turn out to be favourable.

OK

No. At best, you can only hide ("collapse") major sections of the forum as shown on the homepage.

Pity. A modular forum order would be awesome!

What prefixes are you referring to?

Look closely at the path /Anime and for example /Anime/completed-series theres no reason to be prefixes on /Anime as the releases only appear upon clicking a subsection of /Anime.

Thread prefixes, by their very nature, can represent only one certain category. Having language prefixes alongside prefixes for resolutions would only break the premise. Users willing to share anime subbed in languages other than English can always manually add the language to their thread title.

If it was only possible to have multiple prefixes at once...

This is a viable suggestion, albeit its implementation would virtually invalidate the use of prefixes within the Hentai Games section itself. We'll look into it.

Except if you add genre prefixes...

Ssame as always: they won't get their own separate (sub)sections unless people start sharing a decent amount of them and the trend gains traction. For the time being, they can go under Raw Manga.

This is the part that I once again beg for genre prefixes.

I still don't get this, would you be so kind as to elaborate? If by "prefixes" you're referring to thread prefixes, no post can be made in the Music or Anime categories anyway, so what's the problem?

It's like I said above, hope I explained well, its like you said no posts can be made there yet there are prefixes there below.

We've already been considering this option. Thank you for your input.

Glad to know.

Actually no, it's just that our caretaker for the anime section is more diligent than others by orders of magnitude. He finds and weeds out the bad apples more thoroughly than others do, that's all. That doesn't necessarily mean that the section is restricted for anime threads only.

You should get more mods, and no, I'm not volunteering, I know the pain it is.

I'm not sure what you mean with "DLL threads"―from the context, I assume you mean "miscellaneous threads"? (Or do you really mean DLL as in Windows resources?) Either way, as mentioned previously by Checkmate, we've already been considering reorganising the torrents section and drafting plans on how we should categorise the myriad of content therein. Unfortunately, we're not yet at the stage where we can disclose the details.

I mean the threads with direct link download from file hosts, either way I'm glad to know that further improvements in the torrent section are on the way, as of know that section is growing in proportions of madness.

It's been a while since a member wrote comprehensive, thoughtful feedback and suggestions covering various aspects of the way we roll. We appreciate and thank you for your time in providing us valuable input. We hope the reply provided will prove satisfactory.

My cousin spoxxy disagrees.
Keep it up!


ps. when do threads become boldless, I'm sure there are threads I never checked that are not in bold, is there a time threshold or something?
ps2. why should I get a notification for a thread that I just replied to.

 

[Ignis]

Thanks for the detailed reply. I get what you mean 18+ forum is 18+ forum and there's no simple way around it.

Always a pleasure. It's not that the forum itself is intended for adult use only; after all, we do have a decently-sized community not confined to just adult content. It's that we don't see the reason for making everything "child-friendly" while compromising too much breathing room. Gathered here are people who like anime, eroge, hentai, games and other forms of popular media wherein things like skimpy clothes, some exposed skin and a bit of naughtiness every now and then are an everyday happening. Not every such stuff is adult-oriented, nor is everything not adult-oriented safe for children. We don't see why we must take pains to ensure that everything on the site accommodates flawlessly to people who were never our target demographic to begin with.

You may be right here or could it be just that people are not inclined to participated in a mixed mess where they can't talk about specifically concerning what they truly want.

Indeed, it could very well be a self-fulfilling prophecy. On the other hand, if such concerns trouble people feeling that way, we as the operators of the site are equally troubled by the possible concerns of empty or deserted sections if we just let every subtopic have its own section.

I saw the points made, again I'm in favor of having a all Section just for ID requests where people can open/close their own thread if nothing else, like the likes of the Tech Forum, and with prefixes it would be easy to navigate.

The least tempting part with this idea is the implication that each section will need to have its own subsection for such a purpose. Sometimes, an identification request is simply a means to an end with the end purpose being a typical download request. Such threads can simply be made in the appropriate request subsection. However, there are also identification requests made for the sole sake of identification, like someone wanting to know the name of a cyan pegasus with a lightning bolt-shaped mark on her thigh as well as the name of series she's from. This may lead to talks, especially if it generates guesses as to who the character in question is. That's pretty much the reason such threads exist in both request and talk sections.

Those 2 threads are old in a way that there are new tools around, better tools, better ways of playing eroge, ete,

Sure, they're old and don't teach you how to build a maid robot with latest artificial intelligence technologies, but they do the job they're meant to do: teach people the basics to installing games, meaning other things like patches and cracks are assumed to have been taken care of. They were never intended to help people familiarise themselves with the latest cutting-edge tools that can hook text from your game and get your new maid robot to translate it directly into the Queen's tongue. I thought the titles of those threads made that clear.

besides they appear to me to be located on the end of the earth and assume that everyone checks the Hentai Games forum and download from there,

I'd say the odds are higher than people going to Tech Talk purposefully looking for hentai game-related troubleshooting instead of, you know, tech talk.

they could go for torrents instead and totally miss it.

Ah, I thought we agreed that the torrent section is anything but specialised.

Anyhow this is why I expect a more organized tech forum so we have more comprehensive guides, I myself may post a couple.

We have no problem with people posting guides on the latest developments of eroge-related utilities and the like, really. Problems start to appear when people expect us to provide such guides. If you fear that your thread will just disappear into the aether, you can always ask a moderator to consider making your thread sticky.

Is just a way to say that with troubleshooting sticky threads we can have a more organized forum regardless of what the problem really is, but since you focus your attention more to the Tech forum let it be that way instead.

No, I was specifically putting emphasis on anime-related troubleshooting, as shown by what I quoted from your previous post. I also specifically mentioned that I didn't seek to generalise the entire issue, because I don't think I've seen a troubleshooting thread with regards to anime playback. But okay, I'm sure we both understand each other.

I applaud your bravery and just can hope that nothing goes wrong with the authority aka 'world police' or 'internet police', we all know what they are capable off and what happen to other forums, lets just keep our fingers crossed and see if the type of contend here are not important enough for them to bother.

Thanks for your earnest wishes. While we're at it, let's also hope that the "world police" officers won't have their parents over their shoulders when they visit the site, hmm?

Maybe not for you but when you are adding multiple torrents blind one after the other regarding their size when your HD is already running low in space it can be annoying at best.

No offence, but this is very much a user issue. If you were blindly (your word) adding multiple torrents one after another, especially when your HDD almost runs out of space, especially when you likely already know what you're downloading, then you shouldn't complain.

Pity. A modular forum order would be awesome!

That's debatable, but as far as I'm aware, this isn't supported by the forum software.

Look closely at the path /Anime and for example /Anime/completed-series theres no reason to be prefixes on /Anime as the releases only appear upon clicking a subsection of /Anime.

Hmm, this is very much crossing into the nitpicking-for-the-sake-of-nitpicking territory since as you said yourself people would just head straight to one of the subsections, but fine. Removed prefixes from sections where no posts can be made. Thanks.

If it was only possible to have multiple prefixes at once...

I disagree. That could potentially make some thread titles really, really messy. That said, people can always add 'pseudo-prefixes' to their own thread titles and do so constantly if they so wish.

Except if you add genre prefixes...

Again, no genre prefixes. Ever. As I previously elaborated, a creative work can and often does represent more than one genre, making it possible to belong to multiple categories. An anime series, for example, can be categorised as school life, ecchi, slice of life, harem and comedy. Uploads related to the series can also have various resolutions such as 720p and 1080p. The latter can be separated since different resolutions represent different uploads. The former, however, cannot, since all those different genres represent one single creative work. You can't disassemble a creative work exclusively into each genre without having the others. The only thing having genre prefixes would bring is the possibility of different threads with different prefixes representing the same thing.

This is the part that I once again beg for genre prefixes.

Please see above.

It's like I said above, hope I explained well, its like you said no posts can be made there yet there are prefixes there below.

Yes, I've taken care of it. Thanks.

You should get more mods, and no, I'm not volunteering, I know the pain it is.

We're aware. But I think how I construct my replies here gives sufficient illustration on why we don't just take in random people. We do have considerations on bettering the staff roster, but we can't reveal any details just yet.

I mean the threads with direct link download from file hosts, either way I'm glad to know that further improvements in the torrent section are on the way, as of know that section is growing in proportions of madness.

I see; that was definitely the first time I saw them being referred to as "DLL." (Probably you meant "DDL"―direct download?) It's possible, though the (severe) lack of torrent uploads for certain categories makes it unlikely for the torrent section to have subcategories as comprehensive as Downloads and Requests itself. We'll weigh our options and try to draft plans that will work best in the long run.

ps. when do threads become boldless, I'm sure there are threads I never checked that are not in bold, is there a time threshold or something?

Bold simply represents unread. If you ignore a thread and never read it for some time, the forum will eventually classify it as "read" nonetheless, to reduce the amount of items that appear in your searches when you check for new posts.

ps2. why should I get a notification for a thread that I just replied to.

That's determined by your thread subscription settings. The default configuration makes it so you automatically get subscribed to any thread you reply to. Please see this or this for more details.

 

[mspykez]

The least tempting part with this idea is the implication that each section will need to have its own subsection for such a purpose. Sometimes, an identification request is simply a means to an end with the end purpose being a typical download request. Such threads can simply be made in the appropriate request subsection. However, there are also identification requests made for the sole sake of identification, like someone wanting to know the name of a cyan pegasus with a lightning bolt-shaped mark on her thigh as well as the name of series she's from. This may lead to talks, especially if it generates guesses as to who the character in question is. That's pretty much the reason such threads exist in both request and talk sections.

I was thinking among the lines of having only ONE section with prefixes to help navigate, not one for each individual section just like you have ONE section for Tech support.

I'd say the odds are higher than people going to Tech Talk purposefully looking for hentai game-related troubleshooting instead of, you know, tech talk.

The tech talk section isn't exactly a role model for people to consider going there, but with some work. believe it.

No offence, but this is very much a user issue. If you were blindly (your word) adding multiple torrents one after another, especially when your HDD almost runs out of space, especially when you likely already know what you're downloading, then you shouldn't complain.

I know what I'm downloading but when I use magnet links I can't know for sure how much space it will take, I can only guess and sometimes it goes terribly wrong, that's why I suggest the uploader mentioning if not on the title at least on the description the size of it all.

Bold simply represents unread. If you ignore a thread and never read it for some time, the forum will eventually classify it as "read" nonetheless, to reduce the amount of items that appear in your searches when you check for new posts.

And what is the threshold for the forum classify it as read? 2 weeks? a month? imagine I'm gone for more then a month, will it classify threads older than that as read when they truly aren't?

That's determined by your thread subscription settings. The default configuration makes it so you automatically get subscribed to any thread you reply to. Please see this or this for more details.

I get auto subscribed to a thread that I make a reply, I just don't see the point of getting notifications when the notification itself is a reply that I made myself, it's counterproductive.

 

[Checkmate]

And what is the threshold for the forum classify it as read?

2 days. And to answer your question: Any thread older than 2 days are marked as read even when they truly aren't.

I get auto subscribed to a thread that I make a reply, I just don't see the point of getting notifications when the notification itself is a reply that I made myself, it's counterproductive.

You get auto subscribed to a thread when you make a reply, this can be disabled or changed in your User Control Panel. However you don't get a notification of your own reply, when you reply to it.

 

[mspykez]

2 days guess it makes sense on some sections that are bombarded everyday but on others not so much, I'd wish this threshold was done section by section, imagine if I go on a weeks vacation, everything up 2 days will stay unread!

oh and I just got notified on the top black bar because I replied to this thread.

 

[Checkmate]

2 days guess it makes sense on some sections that are bombarded everyday but on others not so much

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oh and I just got notified on the top black bar because I replied to this thread.

I don't have that problem, I've asked a few friends, they don't have that problem either. Are you sure you cleared the notification before you reply to this thread (0 notification) then you get one notification of this thread right after you made the reply?

 

[Ignis]

I was thinking among the lines of having only ONE section with prefixes to help navigate, not one for each individual section just like you have ONE section for Tech support.

You're conflating two similar but separate issues. What you quoted from my previous post is a response to the issue of identification requests, which by no stretch of imagination should belong in Tech Talk. Now you're probably talking about game-related help and the like, which indeed does make sense to count as tech support topics and is worthy of consideration to have its own subsection. Having specific prefixes on top of a subsection, however, may prove superfluous. We'll weigh our options and see how we'll proceed.

The tech talk section isn't exactly a role model for people to consider going there, but with some work. believe it.

I'm not sure "believe it" is the most convincing way to present a retort to someone who first-handedly deals with the issues at hand. But either way, you'll just have to look around and try checking the game upload threads yourself. With a little luck, maybe, just maybe, you'll find one or two poor souls seeking for help every 100 threads.

I know what I'm downloading but when I use magnet links I can't know for sure how much space it will take, I can only guess and sometimes it goes terribly wrong, that's why I suggest the uploader mentioning if not on the title at least on the description the size of it all.

Having that extra bit of information in upload threads would be nice, yes. Making it mandatory with possible warnings or infractions to those who neglect to include the information, though, is a different story altogether. I mean, if I can't convince one person to load up a torrent and wait until it connects to a peer to see the file size by themselves, what makes you think I can convince all the uploaders about the dire importance of including that precious bit of information in their threads?

 

[mspykez]

You're conflating two similar but separate issues. What you quoted from my previous post is a response to the issue of identification requests, which by no stretch of imagination should belong in Tech Talk. Now you're probably talking about game-related help and the like, which indeed does make sense to count as tech support topics and is worthy of consideration to have its own subsection. Having specific prefixes on top of a subsection, however, may prove superfluous. We'll weigh our options and see how we'll proceed.


I'm not sure "believe it" is the most convincing way to present a retort to someone who first-handedly deals with the issues at hand. But either way, you'll just have to look around and try checking the game upload threads yourself. With a little luck, maybe, just maybe, you'll find one or two poor souls seeking for help every 100 threads.


Having that extra bit of information in upload threads would be nice, yes. Making it mandatory with possible warnings or infractions to those who neglect to include the information, though, is a different story altogether. I mean, if I can't convince one person to load up a torrent and wait until it connects to a peer to see the file size by themselves, what makes you think I can convince all the uploaders about the dire importance of including that precious bit of information in their threads?

What I think is that ID requests do not belong on the Tech forum because they are not 'tech' related, that's why I suggested a section and only 1 section where people can post all their ID requests there, like they should do with all their tech problems, and just like this own section where I'm posting now, that said any sort of section would neeed a good amount of prefixes in order to work better. example, on the ID: [ANIME], [GAME],[MANGA], [HENTAI] etc as prefixes.

About the bit extra of information in the releases threads be it in the title or the descriptions if the rules are made that way then uploaders only need to follow.

 

[Ignis]

What I think is that ID requests do not belong on the Tech forum because they are not 'tech' related, that's why I suggested a section and only 1 section where people can post all their ID requests there, like they should do with all their tech problems, and just like this own section where I'm posting now, that said any sort of section would neeed a good amount of prefixes in order to work better. example, on the ID: [ANIME], [GAME],[MANGA], [HENTAI] etc as prefixes.

I don't see a suitable subsection wherein I should place a subsection entirely dedicated to identification requests. While the idea in and itself is viable, we'll have to hold off on implementing it for now and the foreseeable future. As it stands, identification requests that lead to requesting download links ("which series is this character from and where can I download it?") are fine being in the normal request subsections under their respective Downloads & Request sections, whereas identification requests for the sake of identification ("this image has such QUARITY; anyone have any idea what series it's from?") are fine being in the appropriate talk subsections.

About the bit extra of information in the releases threads be it in the title or the descriptions if the rules are made that way then uploaders only need to follow.

Maybe I wasn't clear enough: we don't fancy playing nursemaid to accommodate to the lazy few by mandating the many to follow an extra rule which, if neglected, could risk their account.

 

[mspykez]

The best way is to open an entirely new forum called General Support or something like that, where within you find 2 subsections: the Tech support and the ID requests and some other if you see fit. Off course the current Tech support would need to be moved inside this new forum.

Let it be a guideline instead of a rule :) do as you wish.

 

[Checkmate]

Let it be a guideline instead of a rule do as you wish.

For package size We will certainly note this and add it as recommended additional info, if it hasn't been already.

 

[spoxxy]

For package size We will certainly note this and add it as recommended additional info, if it hasn't been already.

Actually there is not much info on how to present your torrents releases, I imagine that it happens with some other sections to, some guidelines need some updating, and there are 2 different set of guidelines for torrents on 2 different places.

 

[Checkmate]

Torrents follow the same guideline of their DDL counterpart.