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Why are old otome/eroge games (2010 and earlier) so hard to find nowadays?

rasquel

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乙女
May 11, 2021
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Hey everyone!

I've been wondering about this for a while, and I'm genuinely curious what you all think.

Back around 2012 and earlier, I had a huge collection of otome games, both 18+ and non-18+. It wasn't anything special at the time, just stuff you could find if you looked a bit. But then my computer died… and with it, basically my entire collection.

Now I'm trying to recover those games, and it feels like they've just vanished from the internet.

What confuses me is this: the internet today is full of all kinds of explicit content, way more than before and yet somehow, these old Japanese games became harder to find, not easier. Why is that?

And when I do find them, they're often modified, censored, incomplete, or just broken. A good example is Koezaru wa Akai Hana, every version I come across seems altered in some way.

At this point, I've gone through Russian forums, Japanese sites, Chinese forums… I feel like I've been digging through the deepest layers of the internet just to recover pieces of what used to be easily accessible.

So I wanted to ask:
  • Why do you think this happened?​
  • Is it copyright issues? Platform shutdowns? Lack of preservation?​
  • Or did the community just move somewhere else?​
Also, I managed to recover a few titles during this "archaeological expedition" 😅
Is it okay to share them here with the community?

Would really appreciate your thoughts!​
 
I think it's a lack of preservation because most people are more interested in new releases than in old stuff, and there aren't many people invested in keeping those links alive 🤔
This is certainly a factor - I also think the platforms that these games run on can get discontinued, and it's hard to come by people that want to preserve the 2000- early 2010 era specifically in terms of platform creation....
 
One major reason is simply that these games are so old; very few people bother to keep files of such dated titles indefinitely. Another issue is compatibility—many older games are a nightmare to install on modern operating systems, or simply won't run at all, which leads people to just delete them.
The audience for otome games is already quite niche, and that's even truer for "retro" titles, so there are likely very few people left who still have them. If you're willing to share what you've found, I'd be incredibly grateful—at this point, those original resources are extremely rare and precious.
 
Yeah, honestly the compatibility issue is probably one of the biggest reasons.
Some of these games fight modern Windows harder than the final boss fights 😭

I had to change system locale, install old codecs, use weird tools, and pray to ancient forum gods just to make a few of them run properly.

And the sad part is that many of these games were genuinely good. Some had amazing art, music, or stories, but because they were niche and released in a specific era, they're slowly disappearing.

It really feels like there was a huge "internet cleanup" at some point. A lot of old blogs, download pages, forums, and fan sites are just gone now.

I'll probably organize the titles I managed to recover and see what can be shared here safely. It would be nice if more people helped preserve this stuff instead of letting it vanish completely.
 
Yeah, honestly the compatibility issue is probably one of the biggest reasons.
Some of these games fight modern Windows harder than the final boss fights 😭

I had to change system locale, install old codecs, use weird tools, and pray to ancient forum gods just to make a few of them run properly.
This is sadly true ;w;
I tried running Black Wolves Saga on both a Windows VM and Linux, and got it running on Linux first years ago 😅😅 (it took me some days to get it working!)
It was messy trying to run it with VNR, but managed to get through some full routes like that :)
Good thing BWS received Switch port, though some games are probably going to be fully missing (specially eroge titles)
 
Besides compatibility and disinterest like other people mentioned, I think physical media degradation (like disc rot), as well as language barrier for those older titles also impact preservation efforts. The Japanese piracy scene is also not at all like Western one, so more public sites don't last long and P2P sharing is harder without tools like VPNs

Otome, even more so for R18, is so niche that this forum is one of the only highly available ones with a big library for it (that includes Japanese only games). Other specialized sites are run more privately and with more restrictions for members to avoid too much publicity. Tbh sharing VNs as a whole is pretty unpopular, even if you look at the "big" libraries for male-audience games, it's a fraction of available ones in Japan
 
Also a lot of stuff being doujin works, those are definitely way easier to just... fade. And yeah, Japan cracked down HARD on piracy, especially when it comes to Visual Novel games due to circumstances at the time. (Although it's especially sad when I've seen previously free release stuff become lost media. TT)
 
With everything said above, I think it's also harder because I feel like for the western audience, it was way smaller compared to now. Not sure how it was in JP, I think it would be a lot bigger in 2010s. They probably have something stored somewhere on some obscure JP sites. But for us? I feel like it would be harder for us to get our hands on such things. A shame really, this is why I want to start recording all the games I play. A lot of these Otomes sadly become lost media. ESPECIALLY the mobile ones. ):
 
At this point, I've gone through Russian forums, Japanese sites, Chinese forums… I feel like I've been digging through the deepest layers of the internet just to recover pieces of what used to be easily accessible.​
There really needs to be something like GOG for Japanese games (or GOG had better branch out to Japan!).
As for Koezaru wa Akai Hana - it's on Steam Unlocked (I think it's the censored version) or you can buy the untranslated digital 18+ version from Animate.