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AI art in otome games

ninnikuryona said:
ahhh i think i heard about this one. i thought the author was trying to prove really hard that it wasnt ai, with videos and stuff? unfortunately i wasnt actively following them since im not interested in amare, but it looks like they left the internet for now?
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They did. The video is still on their X social page. I do not know how people can say it is AI with so much confidence.
The video can be fake, but if we start accusing anyone and questioning everything just because "the evidence can be fake", it leads to a toxic spiral with only assumptions as the basis.

The author was apparently stressed about it because a lot of people messaged them. Some creators and other regular users provided supporting words but they still left.
To this day I doubt anyone knows the "truth" but people will say what they want anyway. You and me can only guess.
For me I am frankly disgusted by the humans who use AI as an excuse to make baseless accusations and harass other humans. In the end it's just humans bashing each other ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

AI art has evolved a lot. They can draw many styles now. I am worried for the future when certain artstyles immediately get labelled as AI or even careless, human mistakes get labelled as AI (actually I think that future is already here).
It has a blurry pixel? Must be AI. It's asymetrical? Must be AI. Artist don't have footage filming their work without crashing their computer? Must be AI
 
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shinrye said:
They did. The video is still on their X social page. I do not know how people can say it is AI with so much confidence.
The video can be fake, but if we start accusing anyone and questioning everything just because "the evidence can be fake", it leads to a toxic spiral with only assumptions as the basis.
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yeah i agree. even if the artstyle is suspicious or something, you can always just ignore it and walk away, not attack people in question. i guess we will ultimately see if the author decides to pop up again and clear all the misunderstandings. and even though i wasnt going to play their game anyway, i still hope that they are indeed innocent..^^;;
 
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ninnikuryona said:
yeah i agree. even if the artstyle is suspicious or something, you can always just ignore it and walk away, not attack people in question. i guess we will ultimately see if the author decides to pop up again and clear all the misunderstandings. and even though i wasnt going to play their game anyway, i still hope that they are indeed innocent..^^;;
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Oh I definitely just threw it on a collection to check back later. Maybe they got harassed, I'm not sure. All I saw were new people finding it and simply asking.
 
shinrye said:
They did. The video is still on their X social page. I do not know how people can say it is AI with so much confidence.
The video can be fake, but if we start accusing anyone and questioning everything just because "the evidence can be fake", it leads to a toxic spiral with only assumptions as the basis.

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Yeah, I really hate witch hunters and the insane paranoia. I don't think they realize that even if AI is good enough and improves, there's a lot of drawbacks involving it. Such as it costing money both local and as a service (free tiers are likely to be slashed or limited btw), being a slot machine that can't generate everything or whatever exactly you want even with all the data it's fed (unless you have no imagination), the laws involving it, invisible watermarks being added in (see Gemini's synth id), AI companies losing more than they make, etc.

Thing is, there's people caught outright lying about their AI usage and people did scam people out of their money using generative AI. It's one thing to lie about AI usage when you just post art online and it's another thing to lie about in anything that could potentially involve time and even money. There shouldn't be harassment, but just some questions. I don't like people that says just "ignore it" when it comes to this, you would not want people that aren't transparent to get away with it. I would trust people with a lot of art experience to question those they suspect using AI or people with a lot of evidence backing it up rather than non-artists or less-experienced artists making baseless assumptions.
 
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For the prompt of the discussion: No. If they cut corners, I rather not waste my time or even money on it. I don't care if they're an company, indie developer, or only use it to generate backgrounds.
 
Imma remember not to play any games on this thread lol, I would prefer middle school beginner artist early 2000s artstyle to AI ✍️
 
dogiwall said:
There shouldn't be harassment, but just some questions. I don't like people that says just "ignore it" when it comes to this, you would not want people that aren't transparent to get away with it. I would trust people with a lot of art experience to question those they suspect using AI or people with a lot of evidence backing it up rather than non-artists or less-experienced artists making baseless assumptions.
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Problem is the public rarely follow these rules. The moment there is 1 single comment asking if something is AI, suddenly a bunch of randos flood in and jump on the bandwagon. I have seen it many times since the AI trend. People will circle all the so-called weird pixels and start their wild assumptions.
I do not know its origins, there was also a method that got spread to check AI. It is turning the contrast and saturation up then check for artifacts... (excuse me while I laugh)

I am all for calling out AI but it seems the mass cannot strike a balance (can they ever?) between asking questions and harassment. Or using nonsensical methods.
And those who throw around harmful words never come back to apologize if the artist is found innocent. It is hard to believe those people make the claims in good faith and are not just trying to bring down others for their own moral superiority complex.
They use it as a kind of "gotcha" moment, if the artist admits or runs away, they will be like "aha! I knew it!" if the artist fights back some of them will keep pushing further because they cannot accept the reality that they wrongly accused someone. Once again I am not saying to ignore everything, but a lot of them are so baseless that it is hard to support their actions.

I sigh when I think about how this will continue on for a long time because art is too abstract to have a reliable checking tool, if at all.
 
shinrye said:
Problem is the public rarely follow these rules. The moment there is 1 single comment asking if something is AI, suddenly a bunch of randos flood in and jump on the bandwagon. I have seen it many times since the AI trend. People will circle all the so-called weird pixels and start their wild assumptions.
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Yeah, it's sad that mob mentality and morality superiority complex is super bad nowadays. This doesn't just apply for the AI witch hunters, but for many other things. Cancel culture and misinformaiton is at a rise thse days. If someone is badly talked about, doesn't matter if the evidence is real or fake, people will harass them. Or even those who harass creators umprompted because they dare to create something they dislike.

And the artifact-checking method isn't really reliable in comparison to invisible watermarks. AI-detectors aren't reliable in general either. But there's people don't have the common sense to realize that.

Really hope the bubble pops soon and that more regulations and laws against gen AI pops up. At least OpenAI's Sora shutting down recently is a good indicator of that lol
 
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La verdad a mi no me gusta mucho eso :( me parece muy triste que usen ia (mas si es de paga)
 
No thank you. Generative AI has no place in creating works of art.

I love games because a team of various expertise (visual art, programming, music) has come together and put their time and effort into creating something beautiful together. AI has no soul or intent, it merely regurgitates based on trained data.
 
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I think that I could tolerate it if it's a small indie company but for bigger companies there's no excuse because they have the budget, plus it's hard enough to get a job as an artist and AI basically took people's artwork without consent.
 
I think it's fine to use AI for clothes as long as it doesn't look unnatural, but I'd rather they didn't use it for faces or bodies.
 
If someone isn't willing to spend time of their life learning the craft necessary to produce the art they want to make, then I'm not willing to spend time of my life looking at it or engaging with it. It's as simple as that.
 
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instant no. even though it used only for background assets or other minor assets.... not otome, but im looking at you dark auction.
 
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I'm against generative AI "art" in any form, both visual or sound. I refuse to consume anything made by AI. It's stealing the hard work of human artists
 
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I don't even call it art, just AI images. I'm against it for a variety of reasons, mainly it was created unethically by stealing from artist, and also as I said I don't consider it art. However, if the game is completely free and doesn't make money from the AI art whatsoever I'm kinda okay with it.
 
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This reminds me that someone mentioned somewhere here that the Red Bell scenery was made by AI, which made me super aware of the entire setting. I thought the scenery looked strange in relation to the characters, but when I found out, my paranoia lessened. Not that every artist needs to know how to create scenery, but it's a little unsettling if it looks a bit strange to the eye.
 
I DONT LIKE IT.... Personally, I prefer hand-drawn art over AI-generated styles in games.
The AI art are really easy to recognize...(well, from what i've seen)
And you cant feel the emotions or feelings within the characters.
Even if the anatomy is bad, you can still feel the hardwork from the artist in the doujin games.
 
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