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    Re: Removing the rule that allow bump by adding mirrors

    Uploaders who really dont have time, or do not use many filehosts (like FTW) will favor to change Rules (Do not allow to BUMP). Because they dont want to lose any DL/sale from their few filehosts, so they post all in the first post without mirror. But others one use many filehosts, and they will add mirror by ineffective filehosts to BUMP.

    And people (like FTW) are disadvantage when dont BUMP like others. So they vote to change rules.

    Someday I "DONT HAVE TO BUMP" I'll have more time to do other thing. That is not bad idea .

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    Re: Removing the rule that allow bump by adding mirrors

    Quote Originally Posted by FlowerTradeWinds View Post
    It is unfortunately the truth. To achieve a fast release speed, the uploader need to pay for servers, or at the very least a VPN.

    All paid filehosts are junk, but there isn't much choice. The choice of filehosts mostly depends on do they pay regularly and how much DL/sales do they shave.

    Free filehosts don't usually give a large storage space, nor keep files for a long time, nor very tolerate on copyrighted files. Or worse, sell your personal information to pay for the storage.
    You have the point.
    I don't deny that uploaders can earn money from paid file hosting. But i guess money earn from file hosting is for cover service needed like VPS, premium account, backup system...etc. I hate to talk about it but yeah, the real world is hard. Even if you don't use VPS or server, just your own PC, you always have bill for electricity, internet connection... to do the upload. Who will cover that for you if you live independent?
    About paid file hosting, i think it's far good than some free file hosting. FlowerTradeWinds said the reason.
    Free filehosts don't usually give a large storage space, nor keep files for a long time, nor very tolerate on copyrighted files. Or worse, sell your personal information to pay for the storage.
    Anyway, sorry for talking about something out of this topic. I hope the admins review the rule and change it soon.
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    Re: Removing the rule that allow bump by adding mirrors

    I think you have bump the thread within 48 hours or not. That's not important. IF Database of AS over load, I think admin AS can control it.

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    Re: Removing the rule that allow bump by adding mirrors

    another option merging all the threats with the same game,CG album,music,movies,anime,ect. in the download section.
    so we dont find 4-9 different uploaders in 9 different threats but all of them in the same one.
    this can save a lot of page-load, since people tend to look at many pages before downloading to find the best source.
    if all the same contend uploaders are in the same page, this can save lots of pageload so they only have to look for 1 page with all uploaders
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    Re: Removing the rule that allow bump by adding mirrors

    Quote Originally Posted by darknessblade View Post
    another option merging all the threats with the same game,CG album,music,movies,anime,ect. in the download section.
    so we dont find 4-9 different uploaders in 9 different threats but all of them in the same one.
    this can save a lot of page-load, since people tend to look at many pages before downloading to find the best source.
    if all the same contend uploaders are in the same page, this can save lots of pageload so they only have to look for 1 page with all uploaders
    I think that is far from feasible really
    - How to deal with the moderation queue?
    - Can the moderator actually handle the load?
    - Many moderators are uploaders themselves.

    If AS is going become a private release blog of the moderators, then let it be.
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    Re: Removing the rule that allow bump by adding mirrors

    Quote Originally Posted by darknessblade View Post
    another option merging all the threats with the same game,CG album,music,movies,anime,ect. in the download section.
    so we dont find 4-9 different uploaders in 9 different threats but all of them in the same one.
    this can save a lot of page-load, since people tend to look at many pages before downloading to find the best source.
    if all the same contend uploaders are in the same page, this can save lots of pageload so they only have to look for 1 page with all uploaders
    Thank you for sharing your opinion, i understand what your mean but... It's impossible, do u know dmca protection & takedown services ???

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    Re: Removing the rule that allow bump by adding mirrors

    Quote Originally Posted by Chivien999 View Post
    Thank you for sharing your opinion, i understand what your mean but... It's impossible, do u know dmca protection & takedown services ???
    Protection service, you can try to use those link protector service so that it takes many more clicks for abusers to get your links to report.

    Takedown service, there are probably some out there, but I don't know of any. Though I'd imagine everyone will start to try takedown everyone else's links. Someone already do this to my links every 3 days or so.

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    Re: Removing the rule that allow bump by adding mirrors

    TL;DR: It's going to stay like this for the time being.

    The Long version:

    After giving a serious thought about this, I've decided to keep it like this for now. There are various reason behind the bump rules:

    1. Many, if not most new uploader has to go through an approval queue, they are allowed to bump it once. I think this is fair, since once their post are approved, their post were buried under a few pages depth. You can argue that they are just re-uploading contents and bring nothing new but they actually keep the contents alive around the net, or at the very least, filling out old contents that we don't have here.

    2. Regular Uploaders and Special Uploaders bypasses this inconvenience, thus, your thread has is already on top atleast once. It's up to you whether or not to bump it to the top, to be on top once again. Additionally, Uploaders who contribute unique contents, help fulfilling requests and be nice to everyone else had their thread highlighted. It's really visible in the search and in the thread listing. In the future, I might consider giving a more bold color to make sure it gets more attention.

    3. To answer all of your questions:

    Benefits to AS:
    - Less junk posts clogging up the database, less cache updates.
    - Less unnecessary page views thus less load to server
    It may be true, but it's so negligible that we don't even consider this.

    Benefit to users:
    - No more looking at mirror bumped threads, only to know that there are no new content / useful information.
    Most people come here to look for a very specific content, using the search. Additionally, Only few Uploaders who actually care to update their thread with new contents. The users can subscribe to those Uploader, selectively.

    Benefit to uploaders:
    - No more shedding download counts to the mirror filehost. If the uploader really wanted those download counts going to that filehost, he would have put the mirror in when he first posted.
    While we do not force people to use some specific filehosts like many other forums, we actually prefer uploaders to use a wide variety of filehosts. As such, it is as intended.

    another option merging all the threats with the same game,CG album,music,movies,anime,ect. in the download section.
    When we first design AS, we actually thought about it, but ultimately decide against it due to many reasons, since it's not in the scope of this topic, I'll just leave it at that. It's not going to happen.

    While I turned this idea down, I do understand why you are bringing this up. I can't promise this but I have been thinking of another bump system: Special Uploaders can bump (be it adding new content, new links, or just plain bump) within X hours. All other user class will not be able to bump and will stay the same. Please note that this is just a proposal, a thought, it's not a work in progress, or a planned feature.

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    Re: Removing the rule that allow bump by adding mirrors

    Special Uploaders can bump (be it adding new content, new links, or just plain bump) within X hours. All other user class will not be able to bump and will stay the same. Please note that this is just a proposal, a thought, it's not a work in progress, or a planned feature.
    won't new uploaders thread be buried with this ?
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    Re: Removing the rule that allow bump by adding mirrors

    Yes, which give them more incentive to become the special uploader. And give incentive to special uploader to stay and improve over time.
    Again, there will be a few more quirks here and there, it's just a proposal, not every details are straighten out yet, it sounds feasible though.

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