Splitting hairs is one of my favourite games. I hope you don't mind if I play.
We don't have to be offended by something to disallow its presence within the forum. Similarly, we don't have to like something to allow it.
Because those warning signs work so well. Because enforcing such restrictions is totally within our―or for that matter any webmaster's―capacity. We don't want to insult the intelligence of our visitors by putting up useless warning signs that treat them like children and imply they're not looking at our hentai sections by their own will. Consequently, we don't want to insult our own intelligence by making our visitors think we believe in the effectiveness of such warnings.
I'm not sure what you sought to achieve by including a totally NSFW screenshot. Except to break another
rule, maybe. You appear to be big on citing rules by the explicit wording, so here's one for you:
Yes, we know there are sexually explicit ads littering the sexually explicit parts of the forum. You didn't have to post a sexually explicit image in a section meant for formalities just to make what you think is a point. We know and we don't think it wrong, because visitors going there don't expect to see unicorns prancing about in a prairie. They expect to see sexually explicit materials.
I'm interested in where you got the "always 95%" number from. The sidebar lists five recently added threads, of which 95% of would be 4.75 threads.
Always. Which means that
at all times there are four threads shown on the list plus another 0.75 that due to its value being below 1 may not be visible to the naked eye. Clearly, you see something we don't. Intriguing.
But more to the point: yes, our sidebar does list possibly NSFW items. So does our very homepage. If you're interested in checking them out, you're only a few clicks away. If you're not, more power to you. You can, oh, I don't know,
do nothing. Simply not visiting those parts of the forum will help you avoid seeing sexually explicit materials. You can even hide the sidebar if you're disturbed by the items it lists.
An avatar, however, is something you carry with you wherever you post. If you use a sexually explicit image for your avatar and engage with other members outside the sexually explicit parts of the forum, you're showing sexually explicit material in a place where people do
not expect to see such material.
This is a false dichotomy. There are shades of grey between being completely sexually explicit and being completely SFW. We're not trying to make the
entire forum completely SFW. We only ask that people keep explicit materials where they're supposed to be and stay within the limits everywhere else.
Ah, yes, admins are supposed to be checking everyone and everything while moderators are but excessive human resources enjoying their privileges. Look, when you post something in the
support section, you expect
support, and it's our responsibility as administrators to answer your question or investigate a bug you may have found. What is
not part of our responsibilities is do a thorough check on you above and beyond the context of your thread. You don't make a thread in this section and yell, "hey, admins, take a look at my avatar!"
First, let's take a look at KingArturia's message to you as you yourself posted it:
The problem is with
nipples, not
side boobs. Also, as you're still keen to refer to written rules, I'll once again point to yet another
rule that you've violated:
Next, I'm not sure why you think we're "intimidated" by "side boobs", which is really missing the point. Is this like a staring contest to you to see whether we'll blink first and say that we're "intimidated"? You know we can
make you blink first if you're not comfortable with following our rules as we set them.
Which rules would need to be modified? The one that
says
or the one that
says
or maybe we need to write one more such rule somewhere, just because the third time is the charm?
Again, this is a false dichotomy. AS is a site
with NSFW parts in it. True, we're not obliged to make the site safe for work, and whether you consider AS okay to browse from work or school is your own judgement to make. We'll have no part in your prerogative to make your own choices. However, not every nook and cranny of AS is NSFW, and once again, we expect explicit materials to stay where they are.
But the rules
do say so.
Wrong.
Anyone can make any sort of interpretation. This includes you, whose interpretation apparently seems to differ from that of ours.
Written rules can't enforce themselves. What you're saying is essentially akin to complaining that judges can make any sort of interpretation of the law, but what really gets enforced is the law as is written. What you're missing in your objection is that the moderators are the very people tasked with enforcing the rules. If someone interprets the rules differently than the moderators do and don't agree with how a moderator enforces a rule, they can take the issue up the management chain.
In this case, we disagree with your interpretation and agree with that of KingArturia's. If you also disagree with how admins―the very people who wrote the rules―interpret the rules, more power to you, as disagreeing with something is a right. But you can't disagree with our rules and expect to be warmly welcomed at our doors.
Maybe it
looks ambiguous to you. This is a community forum, not a government body. We don't fancy writing laws in obscure legalese and, for that reason, wrote our rules in pretty brief points. So, no, we don't consider the rules you think you're not breaking ambiguous. And this is coming from someone who isn't even a native English speaker, if that means anything.
Your avatar doesn't.
You do. You have an avatar that isn't in line with our rules and a moderator messaged you about it. In private. It was
your decision to air
your own dirty laundry.
Good for you; ignorance of the law does not excuse. However, when you (claim to) have read the rules and still end up breaking it―standing by your actions and not doing so as a result of negligence, no less―you have even less of an excuse.
It isn't. Stop thinking you're special and we singled you out. We have no reason to.
It would appear that you have the facts different than we do. When even two person argues over whether something is true or not, then that something isn't an established fact, is it?
Well, no one is telling anyone to surf the site from work. But this is just more false dichotomy.
We ask our members to "[t]ry to keep the adult stuff in the hentai sections, please" and do
not, ourselves, brandish sexually explicit images in our avatars and signatures so anyone who sees our posts can see them. That doesn't meet the commonly agreed definition of hypocrites. Claiming that people are out to make a fuss or "personally intimidat[e]" you when
you were the one who started this topic in the open air, however, seems to meet the definition of being a hypocrite quite well.
The fact that
you are interpreting the rule different[ly] from [a] mod, that goes back to personal judgement but not the rule. Fixed that for you.
It's nipples, not side boobs. Maybe if I repeat this point enough you'll eventually see me chanting it in a weird dream and you may end up finally understanding it.
I'm not sure why you think that Wikipedia article enforces your interpretation. Shall I snip a quote?
Just like a matter of SFW vs. NSFW, nudity isn't a binary. There are shades of grey between full nudity and fully clothed. Some such shades of grey are over the limit of what we consider acceptable in avatars and signatures. Is that so hard to follow, or are you just "personally intimidating" us?
Well, first off, I'm not sure why someone would expect to see a nipple by going to a stair and bringing a microscope with them. But assuming you meant "stare", that's still wrong, because even the most common microscope type can
magnify the view up to 1250 times larger. At that scale, you wouldn't expect to see a nipple in a crystal-clear view; you might even see something that could even turn off the untrained.
But, hey, finally you acknowledge it's about nipples and not side boobs.
Oops, apparently it was too quick for me to rejoice. Look, we know you like side boobs, okay? But leave it out of the discussion, because that keeps chaining your legs to the ground while the point flies above your head at Mach 5.
Uh-huh, yeah, nothing private at all about a
private message from a moderator. Shows how much people can trust you for private matters, huh?
Glad you can see that. This means we don't need to relax our judgement on you just because you insist it's about side boobs, not nipples.
"
t is about how I am interpreting the rule." Fixed that for you.
Ahh, I see now! So all your persistent mentions of side boobs up to this point were just a ruse to make me end up mentioning side boobs more times than you have. That way, I would be the one "making huge fuzz [sic] about side boobs", not you. Well played, Sir/Ma'am. Well played.
Yes, where they belong. Not outside the sections meant for such materials. And definitely not in a manner that would make it visible every time they post.
Yeah, what's wrong with you, people? Are you all not ready to casually use sexually explicit images wherever you go? What's stopping you from plastering your company profile sites with side boob shots? Are you all just fighting your inner struggle?
I assume when you go out to clubs you wear slippy clothes with nothing else between that and your chest and put your hands on the back of your hair to give anyone who'd look a clear view of your nipple slipping through your clothes?
Yeah, well, if you enjoy life at clubs and wearing slippy clothes making your nipple visible from the side, I don't know why you're visiting this kind of community, either.
No, we're not. You are. You seemed bent on splitting hairs from your very first post here, so I'm here to play with you. As I mentioned, it's one of my favourite games.
Well, good thing mods have not started complaining about side boobs in this context, so Ninetails has nothing to worry. Are you trying to persuade others into believing your abysmal level of reading incomprehension?
Want to go back to that Wikipedia article you yourself linked and read more about "partial nudity"? I'll patiently wait, though I won't hold my breath.
