Don't know what you expected, it was pretty clear since they announced it that the game is pure vanilla, the ntr route is just a small part of the game created just to try to please everyone, but the base of the game is vanilla.
Yes the vibe of the trailer was super vanilla and very lightearted. Made me laugh.
Im very curious on how ntr will play out, considering in this game, the males are not endowed. From previous straight shota that I have seen (such as anything Hana Hook or Black Lilith's Fallen Wife) the males usually are big, have some sort of blackmail or love potion. But I'm in it for straight shota so I'll totally be fine with it regardless.
I'll try to summary the Pin-Point game for you guys.
Husband and Wife live happily. He is older than his wife and worry about the sexual activity that he might not be able to satisfy her though she is a shy one and didn't talk about it often ( the usual). One day he found a video on her phone which is her being trained by some guy in the past. His little willy went wild and can't shake of the feeling. On the weekend he and his wife go shopping and met with that dude(the tanned, sun-glassed dude) wife seem to know him and that's make he start contacting with the tanned dude. While husband still hesitate with his decision, the plan has been started after the meeting with the guy. At this point, you can read by the picture.
There are 2 endings: At one point husband will think that this activity is gone too far and you have a choice to stop or continue.
First one: If you continue, the scene will get more hardcore(those exhibition and blond hair sex toys scenes). The dude will start shooting photo,film,etc and send to the magazine and also to the husband. At the end husband will asked to let him see his wife getting fucked, so that's the magic mirror scene (blue bikini one). Time passed, and he still receive DVDs and magazines from the tanned dude from time to time. And that's the end.
Second: If you choose to stop this doing with the tanned dude. Wife and that guys will keep having sex while you're at work. Time passed, Husband and wife celebrate the husband birthday and they're having sex. Time passed again, now wife is pregnant but Husband suddenly receive an email while working overtime!! It's the dude who sent video and picture of his wife having sex behind his back. Turn out, on his birthday wife drugged husband so he sleep soundly until morning while didn't notice his wife being fucked next to him. At this point, I guess it's not his baby anymore. He hurry and go home to witness his pregnant wife having sex with the tanned guy. Time passed, they're having baby now. And he can't shaking off the face that his wife make while having those hardcore sex anymore.
THE END
I think I should replace husband, wife, etc with their name but this is out of my head and I can't remember their name. So, sorry about that.
The worst part of this work for me is wife didn't change at all in front of her husband. I really want to see how her character degenerate overtime and how it's affected her everyday life but It only appear in the sex scenes.
The worst part of this work for me is wife didn't change at all in front of her husband. I really want to see how her character degenerate overtime and how it's affected her everyday life but It only appear in the sex scenes.
I completely agree with you. Even if it was to contrast how the wife behaves in front of the husband compared to when she's with the other guy, how can you skip that part on a male protagonist POV netorare game?
It´s the small things...
For people asking for ntr rpgs recommendations, if it is a proper playable RPG there are the classics from Kuri Pick: Nanahayo and guignol; from Suzuya: Lloyd, and couple others. If youre ok with strictly female POV there are a lot more, like shadowcore, the weak go to the wall and multiple debt centric from Acerola. And then there are the RPG elements but not RPG games that are still awesome: NTRPG, and the one route from Nenotori.
I pretty much agree with most of what you said in that post, but this bit is slightly off. I admit I also muddied the waters and used NTS when talking about Mariko too, but it's a little different.
NETORARE: When someone's loved one is taken by someone else against their will, usually being cheated on by a partner, but can also count where someone watches their crush do it with someone else so long as it's from the PoV of the person watching.
NETORASE: When someone's loved one has a physical relationship with someone else with their partners explicit or tacit approval, either by instigating their partner to do it, or arranging it with the other person without their partners knowledge and setting them up to cheat.
So with the latter it's implicit that the protag has an NTR fetish and therefore will almost certainly have a masochist tendency since they're deliberately arranging something they know will hurt them. With the former however, it's still netorare whether they have a NTR fetish or not. Whether they feel pain and suffer, or get turned on by it is beside the point. It is still netorare unless they embrace the situation and encourage it for the sake of their fetish.
That's why it got a little confusing in my post, since the situation I was talking about which is netorase with control switched over to the heroine, might technically have to be called netorare. The difference being that instead of being taken by another guy, she's going out and doing it with another guy of her own initiative for the sake of turning her partner on. It blurs the line between netorase and netorare to the point it's hard to tell which one it really is.
Is she still betraying the protag when she's doing it with full knowledge of his fetish and with the intention of satisfying that fetish? Would it be different if it's the same situation, but she is actually mainly using it as an excuse to cheat on him?
If it's not netorare and a bit off from netorase, then what would we call it? Not having a term makes it hard to discuss. Has this come up on japanese boards yet?
That's one way of seeing it. I don't want to start an argument about the boundaries between Netorare and Netorase because I don't think we will gain anything from it. That one game is considered Netorare or Netorase won't change the enjoyment or dissapointment we will get from playing it. For me is simple though: If the MC enjoys it then is Netorase, if he doesn't then is Netorare. It doesn't matter if he is in control or not, or if the wife knows that the husband knows or not, or if she does it as an excuse or because she wants to please her husband. Seeing it that way it's easier to know if a game/manga/CG is Netorare or Netorase. Of course there are some works that are hard to define, like Netorare turn into Netorase and the other way around. I could give some examples but since I don't want to start a discussion, let's leave it at that. Whoever can define them on whatever way they want.
For the first game is the last version is 1.48.
For the second the last version is 1.51a.
In the second game case I advise you to wait till the game is finished. Voice will be added on december and two more endings, along with new scenes will be added some time next year. This game is one of the best NTR games IMO so I think the wait is worth it. I advise you to purchase at least the second game, so you won't be have to wait for cracking or wondering if you have the last version. The first game is on a 30% discount at the time on dlsice, by the way.
I'll try to summary the Pin-Point game for you guys.
Husband and Wife live happily. He is older than his wife and worry about the sexual activity that he might not be able to satisfy her though she is a shy one and didn't talk about it often ( the usual). One day he found a video on her phone which is her being trained by some guy in the past. His little willy went wild and can't shake of the feeling. On the weekend he and his wife go shopping and met with that dude(the tanned, sun-glassed dude) wife seem to know him and that's make he start contacting with the tanned dude. While husband still hesitate with his decision, the plan has been started after the meeting with the guy. At this point, you can read by the picture.
Thanks for the sinopsis I apreciate it, but please edit your post if you can to put the description of the endings on spoiller tags. Please.
Having said that, I think there are some things off on your sinopsis though. For starters, the wife is not shy, she just doesn't like sex that much, at least that's what she said to his husband. She is portrayed as a perfect wife, but not the submisse type, nor the strong character type either. It's something between the two (which I think is a good thing). She is not the type to go with whatever her husband said, she is actually the one in charge on some things, like his clothing and nutrition, and he just can't say not to her on those matters. She even tease him lightly from time to time, so she is definetly not the submisse or shy type.
There is a husband's monologue just after they have sex one night (before he finds the video). In this monologue he explains how is their sex life (it's being three years since they marry). They have sex 2 or 3 times a month. At the begining the wife asked the husband for sex from time to time (so she is definetly not shy), but at some point she stopped doing it, and now only the husband asks her for sex. She never refused though, and she always told him that it felt good and she is satisfied, but he can't help to feel that something is off. When they married, she told him that she didn't like sex too much to begin with, so it must be that, but he still feels uneasy and begin to think that he might not be satisfying her. This monologue is a nice detail to set things up, so when he discovers the video, it's a big shock to him.
I'm still at the begining of the game. I'm not expecting anything since it's Pin-Point. However I like the personality of the wife so far and the pace of the game. Also, the second sex scene (the one after the video, the first cheating scene) is awesome. Mario really is a great artist. The ahegao face the wife makes is glorious, you can really tell the intensity of the pleasure and the agony of extasis she is going through just from that. I could count five variations of ahegao just in that scene alone, all amazing. Too bad we don't get to see the face she puts when she has sex with her husband, so we can't compare, but we can easily imagine that is nothing like that, also the husband state it clearly in his thoughts while watching the video, so I think that ahegao face is a nice Netorase fuel. Mario is such a great artist, I think this game is worth playing just for Mario's art alone, even if the story ends up sucking.
I'll try to summary the Pin-Point game for you guys.
Husband and Wife live happily. He is older than his wife and worry about the sexual activity that he might not be able to satisfy her though she is a shy one and didn't talk about it often ( the usual). One day he found a video on her phone which is her being trained by some guy in the past. His little willy went wild and can't shake of the feeling. On the weekend he and his wife go shopping and met with that dude(the tanned, sun-glassed dude) wife seem to know him and that's make he start contacting with the tanned dude. While husband still hesitate with his decision, the plan has been started after the meeting with the guy. At this point, you can read by the picture.
There are 2 endings: At one point husband will think that this activity is gone too far and you have a choice to stop or continue.
First one: If you continue, the scene will get more hardcore(those exhibition and blond hair sex toys scenes). The dude will start shooting photo,film,etc and send to the magazine and also to the husband. At the end husband will asked to let him see his wife getting fucked, so that's the magic mirror scene (blue bikini one). Time passed, and he still receive DVDs and magazines from the tanned dude from time to time. And that's the end.
Second: If you choose to stop this doing with the tanned dude. Wife and that guys will keep having sex while you're at work. Time passed, Husband and wife celebrate the husband birthday and they're having sex. Time passed again, now wife is pregnant but Husband suddenly receive an email while working overtime!! It's the dude who sent video and picture of his wife having sex behind his back. Turn out, on his birthday wife drugged husband so he sleep soundly until morning while didn't notice his wife being fucked next to him. At this point, I guess it's not his baby anymore. He hurry and go home to witness his pregnant wife having sex with the tanned guy. Time passed, they're having baby now. And he can't shaking off the face that his wife make while having those hardcore sex anymore.
THE END
I think I should replace husband, wife, etc with their name but this is out of my head and I can't remember their name. So, sorry about that.
The worst part of this work for me is wife didn't change at all in front of her husband. I really want to see how her character degenerate overtime and how it's affected her everyday life but It only appear in the sex scenes.
Gotta say i'm a bit underwhelmed after reading this summary(your summary is good but the game sounds a tad disappointing).
Does the husband in person see the wife fuck or is it only videos? Also the why is only degenerate during the sex scenes? When not having sex she's normal? If that's the case then it is quite underwhelming.
I'll try to summary the Pin-Point game for you guys.
Husband and Wife live happily. He is older than his wife and worry about the sexual activity that he might not be able to satisfy her though she is a shy one and didn't talk about it often ( the usual). One day he found a video on her phone which is her being trained by some guy in the past. His little willy went wild and can't shake of the feeling. On the weekend he and his wife go shopping and met with that dude(the tanned, sun-glassed dude) wife seem to know him and that's make he start contacting with the tanned dude. While husband still hesitate with his decision, the plan has been started after the meeting with the guy. At this point, you can read by the picture.
There are 2 endings: At one point husband will think that this activity is gone too far and you have a choice to stop or continue.
First one: If you continue, the scene will get more hardcore(those exhibition and blond hair sex toys scenes). The dude will start shooting photo,film,etc and send to the magazine and also to the husband. At the end husband will asked to let him see his wife getting fucked, so that's the magic mirror scene (blue bikini one). Time passed, and he still receive DVDs and magazines from the tanned dude from time to time. And that's the end.
Second: If you choose to stop this doing with the tanned dude. Wife and that guys will keep having sex while you're at work. Time passed, Husband and wife celebrate the husband birthday and they're having sex. Time passed again, now wife is pregnant but Husband suddenly receive an email while working overtime!! It's the dude who sent video and picture of his wife having sex behind his back. Turn out, on his birthday wife drugged husband so he sleep soundly until morning while didn't notice his wife being fucked next to him. At this point, I guess it's not his baby anymore. He hurry and go home to witness his pregnant wife having sex with the tanned guy. Time passed, they're having baby now. And he can't shaking off the face that his wife make while having those hardcore sex anymore.
THE END
I think I should replace husband, wife, etc with their name but this is out of my head and I can't remember their name. So, sorry about that.
The worst part of this work for me is wife didn't change at all in front of her husband. I really want to see how her character degenerate overtime and how it's affected her everyday life but It only appear in the sex scenes.
Husband = Koichi
Wife = Yukie
Netori guy = Ryuuichi
I love the game, their sex scenes was hot and hardcore! But personally i prefer their previous works, the ntr mother one. This feels so short because only has one POV. And i think netorase route would be better for canon ending rather than netorare ending. My complaint is only they need make the game bit longer, just add one more sex scenes for each route for ending, because the way they end the story is too sudden and felt rushed for each route .
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I completely agree with you. Even if it was to contrast how the wife behaves in front of the husband compared to when she's with the other guy, how can you skip that part on a male protagonist POV netorare game?
It´s the small things...
Gotta say i'm a bit underwhelmed after reading this summary(your summary is good but the game sounds a tad disappointing).
Does the husband in person see the wife fuck or is it only videos? Also the why is only degenerate during the sex scenes? When not having sex she's normal? If that's the case then it is quite underwhelming.
I don't know what you were expecting, the developer already announced clearly that it was gonna be like that. I mean, it's the whole point of the game, the contrast between her everyday behavior with her husband, with her behavior when she is having sex with the other guy. She is just hidding that side of herself to his husband.
Personally I love when the wife/girlfriend turns into a sadistic bitch that torments his husband/boyfriend, or when she turns indiferent to him. However, when done right, the "poker face" scenario could be really good. For instance, I like how the wife behaves like nothing in front of her husband after having had sex with the other guy, or when she lies to him right to his face. Everytime she does that is as if she is slapping him in the face withouth knowing it.
Husband = Koichi
Wife = Yukie
Netori guy = Ryuuichi
I love the game, their sex scenes was hot and hardcore! But personally i prefer their previous works, the ntr mother one. This feels so short because only has one POV. And i think netorase route would be better for canon ending rather than netorare ending. My complaint is only they need make the game bit longer, just add one more sex scenes for each route for ending, because the way they end the story is too sudden and felt rushed for each route .
You are right, the sex scenes are smoking hot! Even though I'm still in the third sex scene (I couldn't pass from that even though I tried LOL). I noticed when I checked the extras at the begining that the game wasn't gonna have too many sex scenes (only 16 base CGs). However every sex scene is long enough and intense heavy, so I'm not dissapointed. Actually I prefer a few long sex scenes rather than a lot short ones.
I don't know if it's because I had no expectations to begin with, but so far I'm really enjoying it. Mario's art is great, and even though I didn't like the voice of the wife too much at the begining, now I'm really liking it, it really conveys the intensity of the sex (like I can imagine the yarichin banging her furiouslly just from hearing her moans). So far the monologue of the husband in the sex scene is good too. And I like the revelations the husband finds out in every scene, those little details are great.
First scene: Discovering that her wife was a masochist bitch in the past.
Second scene: Confirming that he never made her orgasm.
Third scene: Finding out that she masturbated to the video in her cellphone. So on top of him being unable to satisfied her, she was also pleasing herself thinking in the other man's cock the whole time. That reallly must have hurt. I could feel the pain from the husband like an uppercut in the solar plexus.
I don't know if I was biased to Pin-Point since Kedamono tachi (which I hated) or if they are improving their NTR games (the last one with the manager wasn't bad, it wasn't good either, but at leat it wasn't a total dissapointment). I hope is the later since having another developer doing quality NTR stuff is always welcome. I still have a long way to go, so I must get dissapointed later on, but so far so good.
I don't know what you were expecting, the developer already announced clearly that it was gonna be like that. I mean, it's the whole point of the game, the contrast between her everyday behavior with her husband, with her behavior when she is having sex with the other guy. She is just hidding that side of herself to his husband. And she was already corrupted to begin with, so to what point do you want her to be corrupted?
Personally I love when the wife/girlfriend turns into a sadistic bitch that torments his husband/boyfriend, or when she turns indiferent to him. However, when done right, the "poker face" scenario could be really good. For instance, I like how the wife behaves like nothing in front of her husband after having had sex with the other guy, or when she lies to him right to his face. Everytime she does that is as if she is slapping him in the face withouth knowing it.
You are right, the sex scenes are smoking hot! Even though I'm still in the third sex scene (I couldn't pass from that even though I tried LOL). I noticed when I checked the extras at the begining that the game wasn't gonna have too many sex scenes (only 16 base CGs). However every sex scene is long enough and intense heavy, so I'm not dissapointed. Actually I prefer a few long sex scenes rather than a lot short ones.
I don't know if it's because I had no expectations to begin with, but so far I'm really enjoying it. Mario's art is great, and even though I didn't like the voice of the wife too much at the begining, now I'm really liking it, it really conveys the intensity of the sex (like I can imagine the yarichin banging her furiouslly just from hearing her moans). So far the monologue of the husband in the sex scene is good too. And I like the revelations the husband finds out in every scene, those little details are great.
First scene: Discovering that her wife was a masochist bitch in the past.
Second scene: Confirming that he never made her orgasm.
Third scene: Finding out that she masturbated to the video in her cellphone. So on top of him being unable to satisfied her, she was also pleasing herself thinking in the other man's cock the whole time. That reallly must have hurt. I could feel the pain from the husband like an uppercut in the solar plexus.
I don't know if I was biased to Pin-Point since Kedamono tachi (which I hated) or if they are improving their NTR games (the last one with the manager wasn't bad, it wasn't good either, but at leat it wasn't a total dissapointment). I hope is the later since having another developer doing quality NTR stuff is always welcome. I still have a long way to go, so I must get dissapointed later on, but so far so good.
Can you add the next little details (at least those you catch)? Also i like the idea of the game and it is good for a quick fap/play xD, but i would have loved if the wife was "rehabilitated" at the begining, i would have loved it if she was resisting at least with her mouth only to have the guy show her otherwise (with lots of degradation since it is a masochistic themed game).
Can you add the next little details (at least those you catch)? Also i like the idea of the game and it is good for a quick fap/play xD, but i would have loved if the wife was "rehabilitated" at the begining, i would have loved it if she was resisting at least with her mouth only to have the guy show her otherwise (with lots of degradation since it is a masochistic themed game).
I think I made a mistake and cause a missunderstanding. I'm sorry, I have erased that part from my original comment. What I meant was that even though she was rehabilitated, she was still a masochistic slut on the inside, she was just suppressing it. She actually resists at the begining, but not for too long.
Here is a description of her story in chronollogical order, explained on the second and third sex scenes, so you can know more details. I doubt this is spoilers since it's very early in the game, but just in case:
At school she was trained to be a masochistic slut by the yarichin dude. She was her loyal slave however when he begun to sugest that she might get money with her amazing body, she begun to get scared (I hope I understood this part correctly, since I was kind of rushing the text to get to the sex lol). She got scared of not being able to coming back if she go any further and to destroy her oportunity to lead a normal decent life. So she run away from the yarichin, joined into a company to work, met her husband there, and marrid him. She quit the company and now she lives as a normal housewife with her husband.
She is happy but her husband is unable to satisfy her, so even though she erased all the videos from her old times, she couldn't erase one of them. She endulges into masturbation to try to relief her frustrated body while watching that video, all of this of course withouth his husband knowing.
I think the fight inside of her between her reason and her desire is well depicted considering what she has gone through. She craves deep down to be dominated by the yarichin, but supress it for her love to his husband and for the fear of what it would lead to. But she has being well trained, and her body can't forget it, so even though she resists, when the yarichin order something seriously she is unable to dissobey him.
Let's just say that in the second scene she resists, even though she cums like crazy. In the third scene she resists at first, but a lot less, and past some point she is totally back to her old self, even though she shows some resistance from time to time, specially when her husband is mentioned. I think she will show less and less resistant progresively until she doesn't have quells to admit that her husband sucks at sex.
Up to the thid scene she is reluctant at first before the sex. She says she is doing it because she doesn't have choice, because the yarichin is blackmailling her. So yeah, she resists, but..... Better check the spoillers if you want more details.
I don't know if I was biased to Pin-Point since Kedamono tachi (which I hated) or if they are improving their NTR games (the last one with the manager wasn't bad, it wasn't good either, but at leat it wasn't a total dissapointment). I hope is the later since having another developer doing quality NTR stuff is always welcome. I still have a long way to go, so I must get dissapointed later on, but so far so good.
The only title I've liked so far from Pin-Point is the NTR with the blue-haired milf which is also drawn by Mario so I understand your bias against them. Haven't played the new game yet but I love games that can properly contrast the wife's ordinary personality and her dormant slutty side, similar to Tsuma Kanraku by Autobahn.
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New NTRbased rpg on the games page. Looks like a game where the protagonist isn't completely useless in combat. But doesn't mention game-over rape in the dlsitepage for it. Hoping it doesn't have that and is just gradual corruption. Does mention a split ending depending on choice though which is fine. Sorta came out of nowhere.
That's one way of seeing it. I don't want to start an argument about the boundaries between Netorare and Netorase because I don't think we will gain anything from it. That one game is considered Netorare or Netorase won't change the enjoyment or dissapointment we will get from playing it. For me is simple though: If the MC enjoys it then is Netorase, if he doesn't then is Netorare. It doesn't matter if he is in control or not, or if the wife knows that the husband knows or not, or if she does it as an excuse or because she wants to please her husband. Seeing it that way it's easier to know if a game/manga/CG is Netorare or Netorase. Of course there are some works that are hard to define, like Netorare turn into Netorase and the other way around. I could give some examples but since I don't want to start a discussion, let's leave it at that. Whoever can define them on whatever way they want.
Okay. It's not like I want to argue about it or anything. I just want to clarify that the definitions I wrote weren't something that I came up with or just my own point of view. Those are the definitions that we've been running off since the terms were first coined. I was just repeating them. The first post of the thread has the whole definition of netorare as it was given to us back when the first NTR discussion thread was started back in 2008 and the netorase one was introduced in this thread around the time the Marina games became popular and interest in that kind of scenario took off and the japanese wanted a term to differentiate it from other kinds of netorare. I've been going off those descriptions of those terms ever since. In fact my previous post was also a bit off since it implied that netorare and netorase are different things, which they originally weren't meant to be. Netorase was meant to be a subgenre of netorare since netorare is pretty much any scenario where the person the protagonist likes is sleeping with someone else. So netorase is also netorare, just a specific kind of netorare that people liked so much they gave it a name of it's own.
You can believe what you want of course and I certainly can't stop you from redefining the terms for your own convenience. But it seems like it defeats the whole point of having the terms in the first place if everyone is going off a different definition of what they mean. The whole reason they came up with them to begin with was so that when they said that something was NTR, other members of the community would know what they were talking about. It was so they could find and share works that fit into their fetish at a time when there were very few works that focused on it and where almost no-one had even heard about it. A general consensus of what constitutes NTR is pretty much mandatory for that to work.
I'm sorry if this bothers you, but this is something that has been frustrating me for years now. Plus one of the reasons this thread was made was so that people who didn't understand NTR could come and ask questions and discuss it. If we can't talk about the definition of NTR anymore because so many people have their own idea of what NTR is and should be and might get upset if they feel their view is being attacked, then this thread is pretty much reduced to being nothing but a place to post about new NTR games and beg for recommendations. Which I'd find pretty sad.
I apologise if I've offended anyone. This should be a place where people can talk about whatever without fear of judgement or hostility (since we face plenty enough from certain other members of the hentai community). I hope everyone can at least agree on that much.
New NTRbased rpg on the games page. Looks like a game where the protagonist isn't completely useless in combat. But doesn't mention game-over rape in the dlsitepage for it. Hoping it doesn't have that and is just gradual corruption. Does mention a split ending depending on choice though which is fine. Sorta came out of nowhere.
It was this. After playing it a bit it's definitely nothing special and the girl pretty annoying because she talks in third person. But eh- little game. generic rpg. even uses outdated rpgmaker.
It was this. After playing it a bit it's definitely nothing special and the girl pretty annoying because she talks in third person. But eh- little game. generic rpg. even uses outdated rpgmaker.
Probably not- it's really bad. >_>;.. Rather replay something I think. Think i'll replay the Jinsei Tsuukoudome ADVs.. I want their new ones to come out!.. and I want updates on the new rpg from shadowgarden... and NTRPG! At least Jinsei recently came out with something so I know they're not dead. I think their next game is suppose to come out in winter.
It's got the same characters with same backstory. However both are continuously updated so I'm confused on what exactly is the difference between the two.
