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    ITH and Translation Aggregator Guide

    Hello everyone~

    If you're reading visual novels and depend on translation programs and text hookers, here's a small guide into the new ITH (Interactive Text Hooker) that has been developed.

    I'll update more if there are people who need help with other things. For now, I'll just show the basics of ITH and a few things about Translation Aggregator (TA).

    I'm sure there are people who use Chiitrans. That's also another choice, but this thread will focus more on ITH and Translation Aggregator.

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    Updated: 16 September 2014 (EST)

    A solution to the game Wolf RPG. If you have a similar game, then scroll to the bottom of this post, labelled "Solution to Wolf RPG", to find the solution.

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    Quick Note


    - Some of the things in this guide may require ATLAS, a translation program.
    - Here is the site for those unfamiliar: http://www.fujitsu.com/global/servic...las/downloads/

    Like I mentioned, this small guide is to mainly help people with ITH and TA. I won't go into detail about ATLAS, but I would recommend it for 'quick, overall translations'.

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    Interactive Text Hooker

    1. First thing you should check is when you open ITH and your game...

    - Go to ITH and press the 'Process' button.
    - Search for the name of your game.
    - Click the game's name and click 'Add Profile'. Press 'OK'.

    Here's an example below. My game's name is 'PersonA'.

      Spoiler: Step 1 


    2. To make sure it's added, go to ITH and press 'Profile'.

    Here's an example below. As you can see, the game is added.

      Spoiler: Step 2 


    3. Next, go to ITH and press 'Option'. Make sure these are checked and press 'OK'.

    - Auto attach
    - Auto insert
    - Auto copy to clipboard
    - Auto suppress repetition

    These enable the translation from Japanese to English and captures the text.

    Here's an example below.

      Spoiler: Step 3 


    4. In ITH, insert the hook you have in that rectangular white box.

    I'll be using my hook /HW4@42E3A2.

    As you can see below, my text is all jumbled repeated Japanese...

      Spoiler: Step 4 


    5. After you type the hook and press 'Enter', you then press 'Hook' on ITH.

    Scroll to find your hook. It should be labelled 'UserHook' or labelled with the numbers and letters you inserted as the hook. Then select that hook and press 'OK'.

    See below for the example.

      Spoiler: Step 5 


    6. Click the text/dialogue box in your game or anywhere so ITH can detect/pick up the text with its new hook you inputted.

    See below... just click somewhere so ITH can generate your new hook.

      Spoiler: Step 6 


    7. Go back to the front of ITH, and scroll until you find 'UserHook' or whichever new hook you inputted, and pick the hook that corresponds and displays the right text for your game.

    See below for the example.

      Spoiler: Step 7 


    Result: It should generate the text like this picture below.

      Spoiler: Result 


    8. Go to ITH, and press 'Save'. This saves the hook and makes sure that if you open ITH again, the hook you used will be there the next time you play.

    9. Please close/exit ITH. Then open it up again. If you did it correctly, when you press 'Profile', you should see your hook.

    Here is an example.

      Spoiler: Step 9 


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    Translation Aggregator

    Once you have downloaded TA and saved it in a suitable location, please check the following things to get you started.

    1. Please download Mecab and the edict files for Jparser.

    Mecab

    - Download Mecab here: http://code.google.com/p/mecab/downloads/list
    - If you haven't installed Mecab before, download the '.exe' (execution file).
    - If you have installed it before, just download the updates with the extensions '.tar.gz'.
    - When installing, choose a dictionary other than 'UTF16' like 'UTF8'.

    Jparser


    - Download Jparser here: http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~jwb/edict_doc.html
    - Download either 'edict.gz' or 'edict2.gz' or both.
    - Decompress it and put it in TA's 'dictionaries' folder.

    Please see below if you aren't sure.

      Spoiler: TA Step 1 




    2. Open TA, click 'Tools', and make sure these two things are checked.

    - Translate from = Japanese
    - Translate to = English

    Here's an example just in case.

      Spoiler: TA Step 2 




    3. If you have done it correctly, you can open TA with ITH and your game running.

    As you can see below, Jparser can translate text if you hover over the word. You can see Mecab is functioning and the other translation boxes as well.

      Spoiler: TA Step 3 


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    Extra Tip for Translation Aggregator

    If you would like to see your game's top menu bar in English, please do the following.

    1. When you open TA, go to 'Tools', and go to 'Launch Text Hooker'.

    If you're not sure, here's a picture.

      Spoiler: Extra 1 


    2. Find your game and double-click it or press 'Open'. Once done, please click 'OK'.

    Here's an example. My game is 'PersonA'.

      Spoiler: Extra 2 


    3. Hover over your game's menu bar and it should change to English.

    See below for an example.

      Spoiler: Extra 3 


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    Solution to Wolf RPG

    Give thanks to @Abdalmaus ; and @Sakimichi ; for their time and effort in providing the solution.

      Spoiler: Problem 
    Quote Originally Posted by Abdalmaus View Post
    I'm trying to make this Wolf RPG game work with ChiiTrans2, which uses AGTH v.2011.04.21.
    I tried to use the following parameters: /HB*0@470D5A /KF64:16 /x3 /kf /ks2
    I have no idea on how to use those parameters.
    At least, they gave me the hook I needed, except:

    What it's supposed to be translated:
    純(・・今日も一人で帰宅かぁ。)

    Hooks 0x00543161:00000000 1strlenA and 0x0054386A:000000001strlenA
    What I keep getting over and over, as long I'm not alt tabbing off the game:
      Spoiler: Error 1 
    [B]純純純(((・・・・・・今今今日日日ももも一一一人人人ででで帰帰帰宅宅宅かかかぁぁぁ。。。)))純純純(((・・・・・・今今今日日日ももも一一一人人人ででで帰帰帰宅宅宅かかかぁぁぁ。。。)))純純純(((・・・・・・今今今日日日ももも一一一人人人ででで帰帰帰宅宅宅かかかぁぁぁ。。。)))純純純(((・・・・・・今今今日日日ももも一一一人人人ででで帰帰帰宅宅宅かかかぁぁぁ。。。)))純純純(((・・・・・・今今今日日日ももも一一一人人人ででで帰帰帰宅宅宅かかかぁぁぁ。。。)))純純純(((・・・・
    *cuts off in a random place of the repetition to translate and continues*


    Hook 0x00547C4B:00000000 1strlenA
    Sometimes translates properly but repeatedly as well:
      Spoiler: Error 2A 
    純(・・今日も一人で帰宅かぁ。)純(・・今日も一人で帰宅かぁ。)純(・・今日も一人で帰宅かぁ。)純(・・今日も一人で帰宅かぁ。)純(・・今日も一人で帰宅かぁ。)純(・・今日も一人で帰宅かぁ。)純(・・今日も一人で帰宅かぁ。)純(・・今日も一人で帰宅かぁ。)純(・・今日も一人で帰宅かぁ。)純(・・今日も一人で帰宅かぁ。)純(・・今日も一人で帰宅かぁ。)純(・・今日も一人で帰宅かぁ。)純(・・今日も一人で帰宅かぁ。)純(・・今日も一人で帰宅かぁ。)純(・・今日も一人で帰宅かぁ。)純(・・今日も一人で

    Same hook sometimes repeat like first spoiler (Error 1), except it repeats only 2 times each kanji, instead of 3:
      Spoiler: Error 2B 
    純純((・・・・今今日日もも一一人人でで帰帰宅宅かかぁぁ。。))純純((・・・・今今日日もも一一人人でで帰帰宅宅かかぁぁ。。))純純((・・・・今今日日もも一一人人でで帰帰宅宅かかぁぁ。。))純純((・・・・今今日日もも一一人人でで帰帰宅宅かかぁぁ。。))純純((・・・・今今日日もも一一人人でで帰帰宅宅かかぁぁ。。))純純((・・・・今今日日もも一一人人でで帰帰宅宅かかぁぁ。。))純純((・・・・今今日日もも一一人人でで帰帰宅宅かかぁぁ。。))純純((・・・・今今日日もも一一人人でで帰帰宅宅かかぁぁ。。))


    Anyone know how to fix this?


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      Spoiler: Sakimichi's Solution 
    /Ks2 should work, but if no one can answer you question I suggest using VNR. https://code.google.com/p/annot-player/
    WolfEngine doesn't need any hook codes and the repetitions are already removed.
    Plus Chiitrans2 is already an abandonware.


    Go to preferences and do this:


    Run the game and Go to options:


    2.
      Spoiler: Abdalmaus's Solution 

    Update
    If anyone ever run into the same problem as me:
    Run the game through agth separately instead of trying to start it from Chii.
    Command line I was recommended is: "c:/agth.exe" /c /x3 /kf64:16 /ks2 "game.exe"
    Turn on Chii after you set it with the right monitored thread on AGTH.
    Check "Enable clipboard monitoring" on Chii and "Check for repeating phrases"
    If you're using ChiiTrans2, just run game and select "AGTH inject (...)"

    Now I got both software working as I wanted
    VNR is perfect for me to play VNs and some other games on fullscreen (specially with widescreen)
    And Chii for windowed RPGs!

    I take no credit on that solution, I'm not sure if I can mention other forums here.


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    If you have any questions, comments, suggestions, or anything else please feel free to do so.

    Additional Info:

    Here you can find an excellent guide to Text Hooker by Aero:

    http://amaenboda.wordpress.com/2012/...o-using-atlas/

    Thank you for reading~

    Enjoy your games. ^^

    Edit: as of March 2014, Google have updated their API so TA cannot communicate with it anymore. There's a highly beta, untested fix located here
    You can download them from there or the link below:
    Source - Translation Aggregator 0.4.9.3.r174.zip
    Translation Aggregator 0.4.9.3.r174.zip
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    Re: ITH and Translation Aggregator Guide

    This thread is decent enough, I'll stick it up.
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    Re: ITH and Translation Aggregator Guide

    Thank you Checkmate.

    It is certainly much appreciated for you to take your time to look over my guide.

    If there are people who require assistance and anything that may prove useful, I'm willing to update with further information.
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    How about parameters like /ks2? Where shall I put it?

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    Re: ITH and Translation Aggregator Guide

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    I believe that as long as you enable 'Auto suppress repetition' in ITH... It shouldn't repeat the characters.

    At least, from my knowledge using ITH, if you select the right hook, there shouldn't be repeated characters.


    From my understanding, /ks is applied to AGTH.

    If you are using AGTH as your text hooker, then you add /ks like this:

    C:\AGTH\agth.exe /HA8@41B010 /ks

    You use /ks2 when your text has something like 'AAABBB'. Therefore, you need to rid of 2 'As' and 2 'Bs'. So the target name would look like this:

    C:\AGTH\agth.exe /HA8@41B010 /ks2


    I hope this clarifies some things. If it does not, then by all means, please share your thoughts.
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    Re: ITH and Translation Aggregator Guide

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    @Sakimichi

    I believe that as long as you enable 'Auto suppress repetition' in ITH... It shouldn't repeat the characters.

    At least, from my knowledge using ITH, if you select the right hook, there shouldn't be repeated characters.


    From my understanding, /ks is applied to AGTH.

    If you are using AGTH as your text hooker, then you add /ks like this:

    C:\AGTH\agth.exe /HA8@41B010 /ks

    You use /ks2 when your text has something like 'AAABBB'. Therefore, you need to rid of 2 'As' and 2 'Bs'. So the target name would look like this:

    C:\AGTH\agth.exe /HA8@41B010 /ks2


    I hope this clarifies some things. If it does not, then by all means, please share your thoughts.
    Thank you~ auto suppress did not work on my ITH because it hangs my system. IDK what happened.
    I'll just manually add /ks2 on the hook bar instead..it still works but the it's tiresome since you have to do it everytime the game starts. ITH wont save the /ks2 parameter.

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    If it hangs your system, perhaps disabling some programs might help in order to increase its memory.

    Like tune up utilities or a game booster.

    If you do not want to do that, then it's fine.

    I also wouldn't mind, if you could tell me what game you're playing and hook you're using. Maybe I'll try it out myself.
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    Re: ITH and Translation Aggregator Guide

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    @Sakimichi

    If it hangs your system, perhaps disabling some programs might help in order to increase its memory.

    Like tune up utilities or a game booster.

    If you do not want to do that, then it's fine.

    I also wouldn't mind, if you could tell me what game you're playing and hook you're using. Maybe I'll try it out myself.
    The game Im playing was Garnet Cradle..it didnt need H-codes though I also inputted 2 on the Remove [ ] textbox.
    Im using the latest version of gamebooster~

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    can you make a tutorial on how to costumize windows too? I noticed the wonderful Hyouka theme ^_^
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    Re: ITH and Translation Aggregator Guide

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    Garnet Cradle... I think I downloaded the PSP version though, not the PC version.

    I'll try the PC version when I find the time.

      Spoiler: Themes 
    The themes are mostly downloaded from here: http://modvisc.blogspot.com/search/l...0Anime%20Theme

    Follow their instructions to install them.

    Some links might be expired. You can search for them if you go to the official blogs or websites below.

    They include Windows 7 and Windows XP.

    You won't find the Hyouka theme I used or some other good ones unless you visit the official site where they make or host the original themes.

    These two sites are the most common to find the themes:

    http://blog.sina.com.cn/weidao455472136

    http://blog.sina.com.cn/natsukyo23128
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    Wow, I had no idea you could get the menu bars in English. That's pretty neat ^^
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