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    So When days rewind got is free due to piracy, i hope this really doesn't affect the future, even if its not the best ntr novel is 1 the few we got, i mean i know there are many jap novels and web novels but sinc eno one sis translating them........also i may just buy it to support them, when i can sinc eright now that is looking less and less posible.....stupid Maduro and stupid socialism......I-MUST-NOT-START-COMPLAINING-------

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    Quote Originally Posted by Animefan_09 View Post
    So When days rewind got is free due to piracy, i hope this really doesn't affect the future, even if its not the best ntr novel is 1 the few we got, i mean i know there are many jap novels and web novels but sinc eno one sis translating them........also i may just buy it to support them, when i can sinc eright now that is looking less and less posible.....stupid Maduro and stupid socialism......I-MUST-NOT-START-COMPLAINING-------
    Have any of you read the books? I bought volumes 1 and 2 several months ago, and only got through about 25% of the first one. Always meant to finish it, but haven't been bothered.

    The parts that I read consisted of poor writing/setup. The whole initiative screams of niche psuedo-scam in a sense; the effort might be there, but the execution (again, not entirely read) seemed lousy. Either way, they got their fund raising done an delivered a product -- whether or not it's any good is subjective, but even that low standard is better than most crowd sourcing projects, alas.

    I'm sure this comment will rub people the wrong way, but if this is what the future for western NTR literature pertains, then frankly I will happily embrace its death and wait for scraps of translations like isekaintr. Latter can be hit or miss, but I don't think we're missing out on a lot if works like these are the high water mark, or we're naively gambling that things will get better.

    In reality, western or not, most erotica is trash. A lot of the Japanese web novels out there have horrific plots, terrible prose, and are an all-around mess. It's only en mass that there are the occasional gems or even maybe just 'good' (Likes NTR, for example), which are the only ones even worth considering reading unless incredibly desperate.

    We live in an age where anyone can self-publish their own works. The light novel approach, where illustrations are made, is entirely unnecessary and imo should only be considered once an author is successful in the genre. Otherwise I think it's a waste of people's support.

    If/when I finish the books and happen to revise my opinion on this series, I'll say as much in this forum.



    Played the game 'Azurite 寝取られギルドの淫らな契約', which is here:
    https://anonym.to/?http://www.dlsite.../RJ221312.html

    Abysmal game that makes you repetitively grind to increase 'lust', which is a hidden gauge, by losing battles. Sex scenes are boring and uncreative, the battle system sucks, and you actually have to level up the heroine in order to unlock the other two grinding areas; defeating the boss of each place unlocks an H-scene.

    Art is not so great as to merit any of this. All in all it sucks. I don't know how it managed to get so many downloads, but even barely hovering above 4.00, the game is overrated. Do not play.



    Lastly, while it's a sad topic, some of the comments in the Hanata's dead DLSite blog re: NTRPG3 from more than 2 years ago are funny.

    If Google translate is right, someone lamenting how they are now 120 years old and even writing a short NTR haiku.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maddogrd View Post
    Anyone have a summary of Anonymous I have it my harddrive but I keeps crashing.
    It's kinda hard to write a summary b/c even trivial things help the atmosphere of the game and writing all in detail would be very time consuming. I can spoil the story for you if it helps. (PS the game also crashed for me but closer to the end so I got to see about 85% of it)

    The MC lives in a small town by the sea with his little sister Izumi and his mom Sakiko. He meets Natsuki by a cliff and feels an instant attraction, he trips and kisses her by accident, so she initially doesnt like him and is very defensive. Turns out Natsuki and her younger sister Yuka are staying in his mother's inn for summer vacation so he clears the misunderstanding and they have a fun time going to the beach and stuff. MC and Natsuki end up watching the fireworks in a private owned island and he falls in love with her. Then, the night before they leave, Yuka and Izumi decide to do a courage test and go out at night while keeping it a secret from Natsuki b/c she wouldnt allow it, but it starts raining and the MC eventually decides to go look for them since they are taking too long. He falls, injures his knee and decides to go back. He ends up in a hospital, wakes up with his sister by his side, she leaves saying she'd call the doctor. He reckons the girls did return but something was amiss, the sisters left without a chance of goodbye so he couldnt understand what. Izumi starts locking herself in her room. The MC thinks that something akin to rape must have happened to make Izumi get in this bad of a shape. His mom decides it's best if they move out to deal with their problems, but his sister still wont come out of her room even at the new house. The MC coincidentally ends up going to the same high school as the sisters, Yuka runs terrified after seeing him and Natsuki antagonizes him suspecting he did something the night before they returned despite Yuka's denying. He gets closer to some of his classmates (childhood frineds Aya and Taichi) and manages to convince Natsuki that he couldnt be the one to have done anything when his own sister was also a victim of whatever happened. After opening up to Taichi and teaming up with Natsuki to get to the bottom of everything, he gets an anonymous phone call telling him that himself and everyone he cares about are being watched and he needs to start being honest with himself about that fateful night at the end of the summer or bad things are going to happen. Then begins a kind of cat and mouse game where the MC ends up suspecting everyone.

      Spoiler: asd 
    Basically what happened is: the MC has the power(?) to change his memories to protect himself from psychological pain or question his good guy status. He does so in at least two instances, one is when he finds an old sickly cat when some dudes dent his brand new bike at the start of the game. First he thinks the cat is dead and decides to give him a "proper burial" but realizing he is alive after carrying him all the way to the cliff he decides to conveniently change the narrative in his head and throw the cat off the cliff anyway.
    The second time is when he is worried about his sister and Yuka who went on a courage test to the town's outskirts at night, to the abandoned warehouse he introduced them to days earlier. When he realized they are taking too long, he goes after them only to discover they were taken by a gang that hangs around that place. The girls get raped and he is forced to fuck own his sister, and as result of the trauma and psychological pain the sister ends up dying. The MC tells Yuka to never tell a single soul about what happened or he would kill her, then disposes of the sister's body so no one would ever find out about what happened and makes up a story in his mind that his sister is still alive but living as a shut in. He even sees and talks to her from time to time. The fact that he is an unreliable narrator and you were in his mind for so long is one of the most interesting plot points of the game.

    That gang ends up being part of an organization similar to EDEN in the Rasen series (same writer) which also have ties with the most powerful family in town, owners of the island they were allowed to visit the other day b/c his mother had some connection to one of them after her husband died. One of the gang members tells the story to another of the organization, he gets intrigued and decides to train Yuka and approach the MC after hearing what he has done to cover everything up and live a normal life. Another one goes after his mother, and another after his classmates. Natsuki also gets monitored. She has a backstory too but I couldnt find the exact connection to the organization b/c the game crashed. Depending on your choices and which girl you try to save/pursue, you end up with a piece of what happened. I couldnt help but feel bad for the mother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osni View Post
    It's kinda hard to write a summary b/c even trivial things help the atmosphere of the game and writing all in detail would be very time consuming. I can spoil the story for you if it helps. (PS the game also crashed for me but closer to the end so I got to see about 85% of it)

    The MC lives in a small town by the sea with his little sister Izumi and his mom Sakiko. He meets Natsuki by a cliff and feels an instant attraction, he trips and kisses her by accident, so she initially doesnt like him and is very defensive. Turns out Natsuki and her younger sister Yuka are staying in his mother's inn for summer vacation so he clears the misunderstanding and they have a fun time going to the beach and stuff. MC and Natsuki end up watching the fireworks in a private owned island and he falls in love with her. Then, the night before they leave, Yuka and Izumi decide to do a courage test and go out at night while keeping it a secret from Natsuki b/c she wouldnt allow it, but it starts raining and the MC eventually decides to go look for them since they are taking too long. He falls, injures his knee and decides to go back. He ends up in a hospital, wakes up with his sister by his side, she leaves saying she'd call the doctor. He reckons the girls did return but something was amiss, the sisters left without a chance of goodbye so he couldnt understand what. Izumi starts locking herself in her room. The MC thinks that something akin to rape must have happened to make Izumi get in this bad of a shape. His mom decides it's best if they move out to deal with their problems, but his sister still wont come out of her room even at the new house. The MC coincidentally ends up going to the same high school as the sisters, Yuka runs terrified after seeing him and Natsuki antagonizes him suspecting he did something the night before they returned despite Yuka's denying. He gets closer to some of his classmates (childhood frineds Aya and Taichi) and manages to convince Natsuki that he couldnt be the one to have done anything when his own sister was also a victim of whatever happened. After opening up to Taichi and teaming up with Natsuki to get to the bottom of everything, he gets an anonymous phone call telling him that himself and everyone he cares about are being watched and he needs to start being honest with himself about that fateful night at the end of the summer or bad things are going to happen. Then begins a kind of cat and mouse game where the MC ends up suspecting everyone.

      Spoiler: asd 
    Basically what happened is: the MC has the power(?) to change his memories to protect himself from psychological pain or question his good guy status. He does so in at least two instances, one is when he finds an old sickly cat when some dudes dent his brand new bike at the start of the game. First he thinks the cat is dead and decides to give him a "proper burial" but realizing he is alive after carrying him all the way to the cliff he decides to conveniently change the narrative in his head and throw the cat off the cliff anyway.
    The second time is when he is worried about his sister and Yuka who went on a courage test to the town's outskirts at night, to the abandoned warehouse he introduced them to days earlier. When he realized they are taking too long, he goes after them only to discover they were taken by a gang that hangs around that place. The girls get raped and he is forced to fuck own his sister, and as result of the trauma and psychological pain the sister ends up dying. The MC tells Yuka to never tell a single soul about what happened or he would kill her, then disposes of the sister's body so no one would ever find out about what happened and makes up a story in his mind that his sister is still alive but living as a shut in. He even sees and talks to her from time to time. The fact that he is an unreliable narrator and you were in his mind for so long is one of the most interesting plot points of the game.

    That gang ends up being part of an organization similar to EDEN in the Rasen series (same writer) which also have ties with the most powerful family in town, owners of the island they were allowed to visit the other day b/c his mother had some connection to one of them after her husband died. One of the gang members tells the story to another of the organization, he gets intrigued and decides to train Yuka and approach the MC after hearing what he has done to cover everything up and live a normal life. Another one goes after his mother, and another after his classmates. Natsuki also gets monitored. She has a backstory too but I couldnt find the exact connection to the organization b/c the game crashed. Depending on your choices and which girl you try to save/pursue, you end up with a piece of what happened. I couldnt help but feel bad for the mother.
    Do you mind telling me what happens with the mother in the end can you save her? Also saw some cg with her that had writing on her or were those tattoos?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Osni View Post
    It's kinda hard to write a summary b/c even trivial things help the atmosphere of the game and writing all in detail would be very time consuming. I can spoil the story for you if it helps. (PS the game also crashed for me but closer to the end so I got to see about 85% of it)
    After reading crashing at 85% part, i decided to use walkthrough, skip all text and see if this will happen to me too. Game does occasionally crash, at first i thought it was because of sound/music and turning it off will help, but game still continued to crash randomly. You just have to save often and reload after crash. But despite this i managed to get all the endings according to the guide.
    I will probably play this game again properly reading text next time, but at least one sex scene is ending abruptly and i really, really hate when games do that. Its like developers decided that what will follow next is too "extreme" for me to see and it feels like an insult
      Spoiler: Scene in question 
    Anal fisting scene, and it ends right when girl puts her hand in

    If i remember right same thing happened with tube scenes in Rasen Kairou and its sequel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnoomoos View Post
    After reading about crashing at 85% part, i decided to use walkthrough, skip all text and see if this will happen to me too. Game does occasionally crash, at first i thought it was because of sound/music and turning it off will help, but game still continued to crash randomly. You just have to save often and reload after crash. But despite this i managed to get all the endings according to the guide.
    I will probably play this game again properly reading text next time, but at least one sex scene is ending abruptly and i really, really hate when games do that. Its like developers decided that what will follow next is too "extreme" for me to see and it feels like an insult
      Spoiler: Scene in question 
    Anal fisting scene, and it ends right when girl puts her hand in

    If i remember right same thing happened with tube scenes in Rasen Kairou and its sequel
    I tried that too like you said and it still crashes so it is probably just the fact the game engine isn't to compatible with new os's. It's best to go with xp on these kind of games. Also anyone manage to hook this I can only hook part of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by traversal View Post
    Have any of you read the books? I bought volumes 1 and 2 several months ago, and only got through about 25% of the first one. Always meant to finish it, but haven't been bothered.

    The parts that I read consisted of poor writing/setup. The whole initiative screams of niche psuedo-scam in a sense; the effort might be there, but the execution (again, not entirely read) seemed lousy. Either way, they got their fund raising done an delivered a product -- whether or not it's any good is subjective, but even that low standard is better than most crowd sourcing projects, alas.

    I'm sure this comment will rub people the wrong way, but if this is what the future for western NTR literature pertains, then frankly I will happily embrace its death and wait for scraps of translations like isekaintr. Latter can be hit or miss, but I don't think we're missing out on a lot if works like these are the high water mark, or we're naively gambling that things will get better.

    In reality, western or not, most erotica is trash. A lot of the Japanese web novels out there have horrific plots, terrible prose, and are an all-around mess. It's only en mass that there are the occasional gems or even maybe just 'good' (Likes NTR, for example), which are the only ones even worth considering reading unless incredibly desperate.

    We live in an age where anyone can self-publish their own works. The light novel approach, where illustrations are made, is entirely unnecessary and imo should only be considered once an author is successful in the genre. Otherwise I think it's a waste of people's support.

    If/when I finish the books and happen to revise my opinion on this series, I'll say as much in this forum.



    Played the game 'Azurite 寝取られギルドの淫らな契約', which is here:
    https://anonym.to/?http://www.dlsite.../RJ221312.html

    Abysmal game that makes you repetitively grind to increase 'lust', which is a hidden gauge, by losing battles. Sex scenes are boring and uncreative, the battle system sucks, and you actually have to level up the heroine in order to unlock the other two grinding areas; defeating the boss of each place unlocks an H-scene.

    Art is not so great as to merit any of this. All in all it sucks. I don't know how it managed to get so many downloads, but even barely hovering above 4.00, the game is overrated. Do not play.



    Lastly, while it's a sad topic, some of the comments in the Hanata's dead DLSite blog re: NTRPG3 from more than 2 years ago are funny.

    If Google translate is right, someone lamenting how they are now 120 years old and even writing a short NTR haiku.
    Mmm i get what you meant, but i mostly wanted to buy at least 1 volume to both support it and maybe get a say a give some constructive critiques, i mean even most of really good jap novels or games were preceded by crappy examples by the authors, i mean look at the really old Jinsei games and compare them to the latests, ther eis a HUGE difference in quality in all aspects, so want to support push in a kind of bet that they will improve, and if you want a real scam take a look at what SakuraGames did with ONEONE1 rpgs ons team.....seriously that really was a scam and it pisses me off because i bought Dark Elf, luckily i couldn't buy any of the other......wich i actually wanted more T.T
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    Quote Originally Posted by Animefan_09 View Post
    Mmm i get what you meant, but i mostly wanted to buy at least 1 volume to both support it and maybe get a say a give some constructive critiques, i mean even most of really good jap novels or games were preceded by crappy examples by the authors, i mean look at the really old Jinsei games and compare them to the latests, ther eis a HUGE difference in quality in all aspects, so want to support push in a kind of bet that they will improve, and if you want a real scam take a look at what SakuraGames did with ONEONE1 rpgs ons team.....seriously that really was a scam and it pisses me off because i bought Dark Elf, luckily i couldn't buy any of the other......wich i actually wanted more T.T
    From what I heard sakura games said they edited the machine translations for better reading but I sure couldn't see anything of the sort in their games. And personally I wouldn't if sakura games machine translates their products if they would have just made it into something readable even if they had to change some line from the original Japanese. I mean it isn't like I would be able to the difference as long as the game was made enjoyable but they didn't even want to put in even that much effort it's so sad to see such good games treated like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maddogrd View Post
    From what I heard sakura games said they edited the machine translations for better reading but I sure couldn't see anything of the sort in their games. And personally I wouldn't if sakura games machine translates their products if they would have just made it into something readable even if they had to change some line from the original Japanese. I mean it isn't like I would be able to the difference as long as the game was made enjoyable but they didn't even want to put in even that much effort it's so sad to see such good games treated like that.
    I am not even sure they did the machien translation well, atlas and google give me better results so long as there is not onomatopeias or sex sounds or the like, hell take a look a the recent Shadowcore machine transaltion and you will see is much better and SakuraGames are supposed to be proffesionals!!

    Anyway i just found something to cheer me up: this http://www.dlsite.com/ecchi-eng/work.../RE207705.html was recently translated, people on ULMF praise this group a lot a the game was suposedly good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Animefan_09 View Post
    I am not even sure they did the machien translation well, atlas and google give me better results so long as there is not onomatopeias or sex sounds or the like, hell take a look a the recent Shadowcore machine transaltion and you will see is much better and SakuraGames are supposed to be proffesionals!!

    Anyway i just found something to cheer me up: this http://www.dlsite.com/ecchi-eng/work.../RE207705.html was recently translated, people on ULMF praise this group a lot a the game was suposedly good.
    I have all ONEONE1 games on steam and yeah, Sakura Games' quality of translation is horrible but i still managed to complete Dark Elf and Dystopia (Killing Time). But i think they opened door to some much better translated rpgmaker hgames on steam. I wish someone would translate latest ONEONE1 game...


    About Tilvaryu Recollections (translation can be found HERE)
    Thanks for sharing the news about translation. I don't keep track of translations projects, just occasionally visit f95zone and hentaibedta, so i don't know what is translated and when.

    Its even has NTR tag
    To be honest i don't get those "NTR" games on rpgmaker where you play exclusively as female. Where is Netorare in that? Main point of Netorare is jealousy, but mc (who is female) is not loosing anyone except herself? Its not like her husband or another family member is getting "stolen" by somebody. I get that this types of games are popular with people who dont like real netorare, which can be often sad and depressing, but why call it netorare at all? I'm probably sound like some kind of NTR purist
    I just want to have more NTR games on rpgmaker with male protag, and not just some Slut, who happen to have husband, son, boyfriend or brother. But they would be less popular so why make them...
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