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    Re: Anime Sharing - Netorare General Discussion Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by DiabolicalGenius View Post
    Though I've kind of gone off netorase, we don't often see a homebrew NTR project. So I'll definitely give it a go and let you know what I think.
    I just hope you've added properly worded disclaimers about stuff being the property of Atelier Sakura and how you aren't making any money out of it and how it should not be sold for money by anyone ever.
    You've gotta watch this kind of thing, since japanese companies are quite jumpy about copyright.
    I've already drafted a title screen and two warning screens when you load the game with disclaimers that its a free project, I'll include a link to my twitter for contact as well/site where you can download it for free. I was actually reading up on 2ch about using other games assets for homebrew games. It seems like unofficially using character sprites, backgrounds - basically the essence of the game without voice recordings as a fan project is an accepted practice as long as you don't pass it off as anything other then a fan project. In some cases fan projects actually get turned into official content although thats not my goal here (although I'd love to see TEAM NTR draw the actual sex scenes for my game lol!)

    While I answered why I'm making this game, part of the reason also stems from my desire for an NTR game I haven't played mixing eastern and western aspects of ntr and cuckolding. More so I really like mystery ntr games and 'discovery" aspects. So as much as I wanted to make a sequel - my games development was based off my desire for an english ntr game with some substance to it then a pure punishment tale for having this fantasy.

    I happen to love the characters in Marina and felt like there was missed opportunities for what Marina could have been. More so I feel an official Marina sequel might just be another punish Kenji story with Marina actually leaving him, painting him as a bad father and a man who can't love his wife if he wants to share her. All of which I feel is incredibly wrong and ignorant of this widely accepted fantasy now. I honestly don't believe TEAM NTR understands wife watching/sharing is not an abnormal fantasy despite the crazy amount of games they've made. I feel they are getting closer though...maybe its a cultural thing.

    HOWEVER I also believe there are some great elements of ntr not present in western wife sharing too, hence my fusion if you will - fusing its western acceptance with eastern NTR elements.

    That said my script isnt perfect, I'm sure there will be elements that some might suggest I clarify or add. Refine some NTR elements too. This is not meant to be an end all ntr game but I do plan to continue working on it after release with a possible sequel or entirely new project if I can find an artist to help with such a project.

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    Re: Anime Sharing - Netorare General Discussion Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Tentacle Bandit View Post
    I've already drafted a title screen and two warning screens when you load the game with disclaimers that its a free project, I'll include a link to my twitter for contact as well/site where you can download it for free. I was actually reading up on 2ch about using other games assets for homebrew games. It seems like unofficially using character sprites, backgrounds - basically the essence of the game without voice recordings as a fan project is an accepted practice as long as you don't pass it off as anything other then a fan project. In some cases fan projects actually get turned into official content although thats not my goal here (although I'd love to see TEAM NTR draw the actual sex scenes for my game lol!)

    While I answered why I'm making this game, part of the reason also stems from my desire for an NTR game I haven't played mixing eastern and western aspects of ntr and cuckolding. More so I really like mystery ntr games and 'discovery" aspects. So as much as I wanted to make a sequel - my games development was based off my desire for an english ntr game with some substance to it then a pure punishment tale for having this fantasy.

    I happen to love the characters in Marina and felt like there was missed opportunities for what Marina could have been. More so I feel an official Marina sequel might just be another punish Kenji story with Marina actually leaving him, painting him as a bad father and a man who can't love his wife if he wants to share her. All of which I feel is incredibly wrong and ignorant of this widely accepted fantasy now. I honestly don't believe TEAM NTR understands wife watching/sharing is not an abnormal fantasy despite the crazy amount of games they've made. I feel they are getting closer though...maybe its a cultural thing.

    HOWEVER I also believe there are some great elements of ntr not present in western wife sharing too, hence my fusion if you will - fusing its western acceptance with eastern NTR elements.

    That said my script isnt perfect, I'm sure there will be elements that some might suggest I clarify or add. Refine some NTR elements too. This is not meant to be an end all ntr game but I do plan to continue working on it after release with a possible sequel or entirely new project if I can find an artist to help with such a project.
    Heck i would love to see an indie eroge company show up someday, even if its not ntr or some dark oriented company.

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    Re: Anime Sharing - Netorare General Discussion Thread

    My twitter account is up or rather re-activated (apparently I made one a long time ago and totally forgot about it lol)

    I'm still waiting to hear from site admin where they'd like me to post the official discussion thread and I'll use twitter for updates after I get the official topc up first. I also plan to launch a small website but thats a lot more work and not a priority yet. It might not even be created until AFTER I release the game or when its ready lol...

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    Re: Anime Sharing - Netorare General Discussion Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Tentacle Bandit View Post
    My twitter account is up or rather re-activated (apparently I made one a long time ago and totally forgot about it lol)

    I'm still waiting to hear from site admin where they'd like me to post the official discussion thread and I'll use twitter for updates after I get the official topc up first. I also plan to launch a small website but thats a lot more work and not a priority yet. It might not even be created until AFTER I release the game or when its ready lol...

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    As I mentioned before, Netorare section will serve your interests best. Unless you want your topic pinned I wouldn't worry much about the admins.
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    Re: Anime Sharing - Netorare General Discussion Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by LonerPrime View Post
    Really? Interesting. I loved the Tsumamigui series. Not sure how it will pan out in this one with one heroine only... The other characters are giving me a NTRish vibe though. Safe to say there might be a "Rape" route gone NTR-B as well.



    As I mentioned before it's, Hoka no Otoko no Seieki de Harande mo Ii Desu ka...? 3 Boku no Shiranai Tokoro de Iki Kurutteita Saiai Kanojo -Kimajime na Gakuen Fukukaichou- Pretty good on art but according to some other NTR enthusiasts on this thread, pretty meh on NTR story content. Still good enough for 1 fap at least, I guess?




    You can save the husband's play-through only. Wife's point of view cannot be saved and is divided in parts for that very reason so you can just replay the whole event if you missed some scenes. Pretty normal for Artelier Sakura games.

    Really messes up your head when you are reading the husband's thoughts while he is working. How come you ask? Well because Artelier Sakura decided to add the wife's moaning in the background while the game is still focused on the husband and his work BEFORE he finds out about her cheating. You don't really see her fucking but the idea is that while the husband works diligently, the wife fucks enthusiastically. The husband doesn't know shit but the player does and I kept screaming at the screen, "You DAMN FUCKING FOOL!"
    I'm having trouble saving the game. I'm trying to save it but it does not get saved.

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    Re: Anime Sharing - Netorare General Discussion Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by AliceT View Post
    I'm having trouble saving the game. I'm trying to save it but it does not get saved.
    Alright I am assuming you are talking about Please Bang My Wife and not Hoka no Otoko 3. If that is so I tried confirming your issue but sadly didn't find any problems. I can save just fine. Here is a screenshot of my own copy saving without much trouble.

      Spoiler: Own Game Saving 


    I do get weird characters instead of legible English but that is a problem from MangaGamer's end as a lot of their customers complained the same. Not sure what the solution for that is but the game runs just fine even with that issue.

    As far as how to save, there are 2 ways of doing that. One is from the interface at the bottom like in the screenshot here.

      Spoiler: Bottom Interface 


    The other when you don't have a interface like above and just a big script running on the screen filled with dialogues. In that case just right click on the screen and you will get this interface below.

      Spoiler: Right Click Interface 


    That is it. Game should save in both instances without issues. Hope it helps.

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    PS: Send me a PM next time if you need technical help. This thread is for NTR discussion, not for gaming support. Would hate for this thread to get locked because we took the discussion somewhere else entirely.
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    Re: Anime Sharing - Netorare General Discussion Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Redorc View Post
    Completely agree, especially as aftermath NTR is usually only in the ending of a route, as the author doesn't bother to elaborate on the lie and let people enjoy it.
    To add on what you say, I won't mind some sexier clothes too as a subtle sign of change. But not the usual slut style used, it's so overboard it's not erotic at all...
    I agree on both counts. Boku no Kanojo wa Gatenkei isn't a game with such elements of scorn or cruelty from the heroine, but it does have something with underwear that works quite well without involving a drastic image change from the heroine. That sort of thing can be good.
    And by aftermath, I'm guessing you're talking about stuff like NTR mystery where the guy never finds out the truth, or finds out but keeps quiet and tries to keep the relationship going? So that you see how her treatment towards him changes the longer the affair goes on without him nothicing/doing anything about it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Animefan_09 View Post
    You more or less described netorare nurse 1, and again that is what i like, the gyarufication is just more of a symtom, if you come across anything (and i mean anything, novel, vn, rpg, doujin/manga, even western porn) tell me, i really love that kind of ntr.
    Sure I'd be happy to. Though it's hard to find that kind of thing, at least where seeing her treatment towards the boyfriend/husband change as the affair goes on. I'd like to find some myself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tentacle Bandit View Post
    I happen to love the characters in Marina and felt like there was missed opportunities for what Marina could have been. More so I feel an official Marina sequel might just be another punish Kenji story with Marina actually leaving him, painting him as a bad father and a man who can't love his wife if he wants to share her. All of which I feel is incredibly wrong and ignorant of this widely accepted fantasy now. I honestly don't believe TEAM NTR understands wife watching/sharing is not an abnormal fantasy despite the crazy amount of games they've made. I feel they are getting closer though...maybe its a cultural thing.
    Well I understand where you're coming from, but it seems like most japanese would see any kind of fetish as abnormal. They tend to have firm ideas of what normality entails which tend towards the conservative and old fashioned. While the young might play around, serious relationships and married couples should have vanilla sex with each other. Aural is considered normal, and a man performing anal on a woman can be waved by without much of a stir, but anything beyond that?
    Sure a variety of fetishes are known in japan and known to be possessed by a lot of people, but even then it's widely considered to be delving into being immoral and bad. Guilty pleasures. Not something you want known to the public. People there might accept that individuals have their tastes, but it's something that's meant to be kept private and not exposed to the public eye.
    The conformist view and fear of any scandal is a part of it too, but you can boil it down to the japanese just being conservative as a culture. Most of the extreme fetish works we get from there are likely due to them using manga/anime/eroge as an outlet for the stuff they can't expose anywhere else.
    Besides, for some people the sense of immorality and that it's wrong to be turned on by the idea of the woman you love having sex with someone else, can be part of what makes it arousing. Everyone has their own tastes.

    Also, no offense but calling it a "widely accepted fantasy" seems a bit like wishful thinking to me. Sure it's much more well known and in open minded communities it might be accepted. But the lowest common denominator still very much treats it as deviant behaviour, wonder why any man would actually enjoy such a thing. It's normal to get a huge amount of irrational anger if you put an NTR type event anywhere in media outside of where you usual find it. Plenty of narrow minded cretins use 'Cuck' as a insult online. It's unpleasant, but it's definitely there.

    To be fair, we probably have quite different views towards this. I'm the type who treats NTR as a great turn on as a fantasy, but don't really think I can handle it happening in real life. For me the jealousy, anger and other negative emotions are part and parcel to the fetish and even if I get really turned on and cum hard from it, the feelings of anger towards the guy and anger/betrayal/hurt towards the girl, all remain just as strong. After enjoying a good NTR work, it's common for me to thinking dark thoughts towards the characters involved.
    I can't imagine sharing my wife, getting jealous and turned on, and then be smiling and all friends once everyone's done. I just don't think I'm made for it.
    Different people work differently. Even if people have the same fetish, they'll have slightly different responses and ways of handling it.
    If everyone in the world could accept that everyone has their own tastes and that if they aren't hurting anyone else, then no-one should attack them for it, the world would be a better place.....
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    Re: Anime Sharing - Netorare General Discussion Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by DiabolicalGenius View Post
    I agree on both counts. Boku no Kanojo wa Gatenkei isn't a game with such elements of scorn or cruelty from the heroine, but it does have something with underwear that works quite well without involving a drastic image change from the heroine. That sort of thing can be good.
    And by aftermath, I'm guessing you're talking about stuff like NTR mystery where the guy never finds out the truth, or finds out but keeps quiet and tries to keep the relationship going? So that you see how her treatment towards him changes the longer the affair goes on without him nothicing/doing anything about it?
    Exactly, as only the reader sees the heroine change of heart, we can mix her getting more and more daring as she plays with him and maybe enjoying it like a psychological sadist, all of that while maintaining her role as the main love interest.
    Something like: at first she was raped (NTR B), then she started enjoying it despite herself, then she went all in, while trying to maintain the illusion for the mc that all is OK... The third part is always chopped off either because the mc discovers what's going on, or just because the route ends there, as she becomes a brainless slut, killing the story.

    I'm still waiting for something akin to "ntred all his life", where the NTR B begins for example in High School or later in University with the usual mc best friend, and the (clever) female character, while being with the mc, marrying him, having kids, etc, turns little by little to an "ntr sadist" for her own pleasure and plays a risky game of hide and seek to the unsuspecting mc with his best friend.

    Or at least give us long ending mystery routes please
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    Re: Anime Sharing - Netorare General Discussion Thread

    Hey so site admin corocoro has informed me to post the official discussion into the fetish/netorare corner for my Marina fan sequel, however I'm to post the upload topic itself to the creativity corner once its released. I'll obviously provide links between them once both topics are up.

    I plan to have the official discussion topic up tonight, just a matter of crafting a nice page now. At first it will simply be title banner, with plot and some character introductions, plus other stuff like FAQ. More information will follow as the game nears completion.

    I'll post a link here once I've got it up

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiabolicalGenius View Post
    Well I understand where you're coming from, but it seems like most japanese would see any kind of fetish as abnormal. They tend to have firm ideas of what normality entails which tend towards the conservative and old fashioned. While the young might play around, serious relationships and married couples should have vanilla sex with each other. Aural is considered normal, and a man performing anal on a woman can be waved by without much of a stir, but anything beyond that?
    Sure a variety of fetishes are known in japan and known to be possessed by a lot of people, but even then it's widely considered to be delving into being immoral and bad. Guilty pleasures. Not something you want known to the public. People there might accept that individuals have their tastes, but it's something that's meant to be kept private and not exposed to the public eye.
    The conformist view and fear of any scandal is a part of it too, but you can boil it down to the japanese just being conservative as a culture. Most of the extreme fetish works we get from there are likely due to them using manga/anime/eroge as an outlet for the stuff they can't expose anywhere else.
    Besides, for some people the sense of immorality and that it's wrong to be turned on by the idea of the woman you love having sex with someone else, can be part of what makes it arousing. Everyone has their own tastes.

    Also, no offense but calling it a "widely accepted fantasy" seems a bit like wishful thinking to me. Sure it's much more well known and in open minded communities it might be accepted. But the lowest common denominator still very much treats it as deviant behaviour, wonder why any man would actually enjoy such a thing. It's normal to get a huge amount of irrational anger if you put an NTR type event anywhere in media outside of where you usual find it. Plenty of narrow minded cretins use 'Cuck' as a insult online. It's unpleasant, but it's definitely there.

    To be fair, we probably have quite different views towards this. I'm the type who treats NTR as a great turn on as a fantasy, but don't really think I can handle it happening in real life. For me the jealousy, anger and other negative emotions are part and parcel to the fetish and even if I get really turned on and cum hard from it, the feelings of anger towards the guy and anger/betrayal/hurt towards the girl, all remain just as strong. After enjoying a good NTR work, it's common for me to thinking dark thoughts towards the characters involved.
    I can't imagine sharing my wife, getting jealous and turned on, and then be smiling and all friends once everyone's done. I just don't think I'm made for it.
    Different people work differently. Even if people have the same fetish, they'll have slightly different responses and ways of handling it.
    If everyone in the world could accept that everyone has their own tastes and that if they aren't hurting anyone else, then no-one should attack them for it, the world would be a better place.....
    To clarify I was making a general statement that the fantasy of "wive sharing" in WHATEVER form be it NTR, cuckold, swining, ect is simply accepted now AS a popular fantasy in a general sense - rather its not unheard of, right? I felt Marina trilogy was punishing Kenji for having this fantasy as abnormal - but all fantasies in that sense could be abnormal then if its anything beyond missionary position.

    Really it wasn't about the fact that Kenji did share Marina - but rather that the games story seemed to be saying that this fantasy - real or not is a bad one and only abnormal people could fantasize about.

    Honestly I've never met a normal person anyway...I don't think I'd want to. We are all fucked up in our own way, what you might call normal might not be normal at all to the next person. When it comes to Japan, man from my experience its about as sexually abnormal for many people.

    That said women, especially ones deeply in love with their partner will often do almost anything to please them and I expect that many wives or gf's are more willing to try it beyond fantasy then their husbands might suspect or be comfortable with haha. Of course I'm making a generalization but we are talking about fantasy vs reality here.

    From my experience most women don't mind engaging in fantasy play, often energetically - but reality is another matter - but having fantasies is not. I guess to some degree it was almost like TEAM NTR is saying this is a bad fantasy that you shouldn't have or else...and THAT annoyed me because it dictates from a very narrow point of view what you can fantasize about as "normal". Its almost like their trying to protect their "definition" of NTR, as having bad consequences and you should avoid having such thoughts lol.

    Which is ironically counterproductive from a sales point of view since its their bread and butter

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