Toothpaste Has 5000% More Fluoride Than Fluoridated Drinking Water Study.

[FAMAS]

Spoiler: Video 2

Fluoride exposure at typical water fluoridation levels is known to decrease IQ across the board and leading medical heads have confirmed it is fueling cancer and other disease as well, but what about fluoride levels around 5,000 times that found in most drinking water? With one of the most popular doctor recommended ‘extra fluoride’ toothpaste brands by Colgate, you get a massivesodium fluoride blast of 5,000 PPM — around a 5,000% increase from the average water fluoridation levels of .07 to 1 PPM.

Children are being given this toothpaste to ‘protect’ their teeth, and I even know someone personally who was given this toothpaste a couple years ago by a dentist to ‘prevent fluoride deficiency. It sounds truly absurd, and it absolutely is. Some uninformed dentists have been pushing the sodium fluoride lie for years, even going as far as to recommend patients take fluoride pills, eat fluoride chewing gum, and ingest fluoride drops to address these ‘fluoride deficiencies’. Deficiencies that of course do not exist as you cannot be deficient in a toxic compound.

Perhaps children should also be taking lead capsules and using lead-fortified toothpaste to prevent lead deficiency?

Top Cancer Researcher, Harvard, EPA Agree: Fluoride is Toxic

If you think it’s a conspiracy theory that fluoride is lowering your IQ and giving you cancer, then you may want to take it up with Harvard University, the EPA, and a former head of the National Cancer Institute. In fact, you’ll even want to take it up with the United States government as a whole, which actually claimed it would be lowering fluoride levels following the 23 or so studies that have linked fluoride to decreased IQ and neurological development.

Published in a federal government journal known as Environmental Health Perspectives, a recent Harvard University study was the 24th (and arguable one of the strongest) study to highlight a serious relationship between fluoride levels and a host of neurotoxic effects. From IQ reduction to hampered brain development, the research is clear. As both Harvard’s press release and official studystate:

“The children in high fluoride areas had significantly lower IQ than those who lived in low fluoride areas.”

They also detailed how fluoride attacks developing babies and may permanently damage growing brains:

”Fluoride readily crosses the placenta. Fluoride exposure to the developing brain, which is much more susceptible to injury caused by toxicants than is the mature brain, may possibly lead to damage of a permanent nature.”

Similar quotes can even be found from government agencies such as the EPA. You’ve never heard about it on the mainstream media, where GMO and fluoride are kings, but the United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has actually classified sodium fluoride as a substance with ‘substantial evidence of neurotoxicity’. And rightfully so, sodium fluoride is actually more toxic than lead.

Ultimately it was Dr. Dean Burk, head scientist at the National Cancer Institute, author of over 250 scientific articles, and the recipient of multiple prestigious awards, who first spoke out against fluoride and its effects back in 1977. At that time, Burk said that fluoride had caused around 10,000 deaths or so. Later in an interview he went on to mention how fluoride is tied to far more. The National Cancer Institute failed to publish Burk’s work until 1989, despite the fact his findings were built on solid science and concerned public health at large.

According to Burk, at just 1 PPM, fluoride led issues like a 25% increase in tumor growth rate, the cultivation of cancer cells, and of course, IQ reduction. Imagine 5,000 PPM. In Burk’s research, animals given fluoride also experienced:

An increase in tumor growth
A rare form of bone cancer
An increase in thyroid cell tumors
A rare form of liver cancer

At just 1 PPM in the water, sodium fluoride and the toxic slew of chemicals that have been branched under the label of water fluoridation pose a serious threat. At 5,000 PPM, you can only imagine the damage that is taking place. For doctors to recommend 5,000 PPM ‘fluoride enhanced’ toothpaste is absolutely insane. Please avoid purchasing toothpaste containing fluoride.

Source:
http://www.infowars.com/doctor-reco...hing-fluoride-than-heavily-fluoridated-areas/
Harvard Study = http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/24/idUS127920+24-Jul-2012+PRN20120724

 

[aexiel]

the difference is that you ingest the 1 PPM in the water while you only 'wash' with the 5000 PPM toothpaste. Toothpaste is not meant to be ingested in anyway, it can kill you if you do, its the same with mouthwash, its only meant to clean in your mouth. Nothing made for cleaning is good for the body if you ingest it. stop being overly dramatic..

 

[FAMAS]

the difference is that you ingest the 1 PPM in the water while you only 'wash' with the 5000 PPM toothpaste. Toothpaste is not meant to be ingested in anyway, it can kill you if you do, its the same with mouthwash, its only meant to clean in your mouth. Nothing made for cleaning is good for the body if you ingest it. stop being overly dramatic..

So I guess it's okay to go brush my teeth with poison. I’ll use rat poison as mouthwash everyday then. I guess since I'm not swallowing it, it must be fine. There's not gonna be trace amounts or anything. Trace amounts of 5000x the fluoride in which at just 1 PPM, fluoride led issues like a 25% increase in tumor growth rate, the cultivation of cancer cells, and of course, IQ reduction.

This is some serious business. Don't take this as being mundane. This WILL result in you getting cancer.

 

[thecoins]

I don't think swallowing fluorides pill will help teeth because fluoride only work by direct contact. but it's different with toothpaste. fluoride, which is F− ion, will form fluorapatite ( Ca5(PO4)3F) which will help remineralization of teeth

 

[Ghost Kitty~]

Hmm if it was that horrible then they would propbably have done whatever crap and banned it already 25% growth rate pretty much applies to people who already have cancer so suree go and ask them not to use it Its sort of said that some governments are putting tons of that stuff in water so the citizens would be somewhat zombie like and not go nuts with whatever~ Basically everything has unintentional effects these day anyhow

 

[FAMAS]

Hmm if it was that horrible then they would propbably have done whatever crap and banned it already 25% growth rate pretty much applies to people who already have cancer so suree go and ask them not to use it Its sort of said that some governments are putting tons of that stuff in water so the citizens would be somewhat zombie like and not go nuts with whatever~ Basically everything has unintentional effects these day anyhow

You shouldn't think that way. You're actually just being poisoned. The perfect example of this is aspartame. You say they would ban anything bad. Look at the links. (Link 2 is the most important.)
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/12/04/saccharin-aspartame-dangers.aspx
http://www.sweetpoison.com/aspartame-side-effects.html

And fluoride cause cancer as well.

 

[Ghost Kitty~]

What hasnt been linked to cancer these days? The food industry is pretty much more powerful than the darn government and they cant do crap about most of the stuff theyre selling =_=

 

[aexiel]

So I guess it's okay to go brush my teeth with poison. I’ll use rat poison as mouthwash everyday then. I guess since I'm not swallowing it, it must be fine. There's not gonna be trace amounts or anything. Trace amounts of 5000x the fluoride in which at just 1 PPM, fluoride led issues like a 25% increase in tumor growth rate, the cultivation of cancer cells, and of course, IQ reduction.

This is some serious business. Don't take this as being mundane. This WILL result in you getting cancer.

if you can stand the taste brushing with rat poison, it will not kill you. that is if you follow how to brush, like rinsing. With what you're fretting with right now, I wouldn't worry about IQ reduction if I were you.

 

[thecoins]

hmm but rat poison can't remineralize your teeth.. it isn't worth the risk

also overconsuming everything, even water is dangerous. so no point at forbidding us using toothpaste as long as it's still on normal doses

 

[Ghost Kitty~]

Hmm and whats the alternatives anyhow?

 

[両儀式]

I don't exactly know what sort of dentists that you've been to but here in the US dentist have explained to me the harmful effects of SWALLOWING fluoride. He has always told me to rinse my mouth out thoroughly after fluoride treatments or even cleanings. Every lable of mouthwash and toothpaste all state to call poison control hotlines if ingested and they also have age limiting labels to avoid children from swallowing in the first place. Also this product is only for adults of 16 years and up, no child should ever be using it not to mention that here in the US anything that is considered "dangerous" or has "powerful" chemicals in them you need a dentists prescription. I know first hand about this because I needed a toothpaste that was more powerful containing high amounts of fluoride, there is lots of warnings and instructions that came with the toothpaste as well telling you step by step how to use it properly. It always warned never to ingest it; I actually think its good to ingest a tiny bit of it in the first place to help build immunities, its the same idea behind those who have peanut allergies. If you eat slight amount of peanuts over time you gain immunity which then can let you eat a whole bag of peanuts without ever having a allergic reaction.

This went on longer than I even wanted to waste my time on... afk forever back to anime, also some friendly advice: don't live in so much paranoia over things like this.

 

[aexiel]

[MENTION=35321]Evangelionheart[/MENTION]; the poster of this thread apparently consumed too much fluoride as evident in his way of thinking.

 

[Will98]

[MENTION=36056]aati[/MENTION] ; do you eat or drink things with food coloring?

Perhaps children should also be taking lead capsules and using lead-fortified toothpaste to prevent lead deficiency?

The majority of the world already give their children lead capsules. Those capsules also have wheels, come with a plastic or metal frame and have nice paint designs on them. (Matchbox cars)

Also it becomes the parents fault that their children swallowed the toothpaste. The parents failed to properly read the warning/labels/signs etc. and failed to instruct their children on how to properly use so said product.

Warnings are clearly placed on the toothpaste tube and box.

Spoiler: Example

http://sadpanda.us/images/1287371-MZZ0HGM.jpg

 

[FAMAS]

You guys keep talking about toothpaste when the effect listed in the article are from the CURRENT LEVELS OF FLUORIDE IN THE WATER ONLY, YOUR DRINKING WATER. Toothpaste effect have not been added.

I don't exactly know what sort of dentists that you've been to but here in the US dentist have explained to me the harmful effects of SWALLOWING fluoride. He has always told me to rinse my mouth out thoroughly after fluoride treatments or even cleanings. Every lable of mouthwash and toothpaste all state to call poison control hotlines if ingested and they also have age limiting labels to avoid children from swallowing in the first place. Also this product is only for adults of 16 years and up, no child should ever be using it not to mention that here in the US anything that is considered "dangerous" or has "powerful" chemicals in them you need a dentists prescription. I know first hand about this because I needed a toothpaste that was more powerful containing high amounts of fluoride, there is lots of warnings and instructions that came with the toothpaste as well telling you step by step how to use it properly. It always warned never to ingest it; I actually think its good to ingest a tiny bit of it in the first place to help build immunities, its the same idea behind those who have peanut allergies. If you eat slight amount of peanuts over time you gain immunity which then can let you eat a whole bag of peanuts without ever having a allergic reaction.

This went on longer than I even wanted to waste my time on... afk forever back to anime, also some friendly advice: don't live in so much paranoia over things like this.

The point of the article was to describe the effects of fluoride at just 1 PPM. Now, they have 5000 PPM toothpaste. (And yes, everything to brush your teeth, there's trace amounts left.) The effects listed are FROM THE FLUORIDATED WATER. Did you watch the second video? He's talking about how the fluoride bioaccumulates in most of your food therefore, you're consuming a lot more than you think. Also, you don’t build resistance to fluoride, it accumulates in your body (the pineal gland) and then, you just get cancer. There's a big difference in-between fluoride and food.
“Do not use in pediatric patients under age 6 years unless recommended by a dentist or physician.”

“They also detailed how fluoride attacks developing babies and may permanently damage growing brains:”
That's without the baby water people buy which contains extra fluoride. Some even feed them fluoride pills. The only reason people are starting to recognize that fluoride is bad is because conspiracy theorist were letting the word out. Now, at least 15 years later, they finally admitted that; oh by the way, you were drinking a toxic chemical that lowered your IQ, that increased xtimes your chances of getting cancer and made you more brain dead although we wouldn’t do anything about it. Here you go people, 5000x fluoridated toothpaste!

I'm not paranoid, I'm just informed. Look around you, there's a cancer epidemic, people are getting dumber, the US is getting more messed up by the day. You know somethings wrong. I'm just trying to point you in the right direction.

[MENTION=36056]aati[/MENTION] ; do you eat or drink things with food coloring?



The majority of the world already give their children lead capsules. Those capsules also have wheels, come with a plastic or metal frame and have nice paint designs on them. (Matchbox cars)

Also it becomes the parents fault that their children swallowed the toothpaste. The parents failed to properly read the warning/labels/signs etc. and failed to instruct their children on how to properly use so said product.

Warnings are clearly placed on the toothpaste tube and box.

Spoiler: Example

http://sadpanda.us/images/1287371-MZZ0HGM.jpg

Not often. In addition, lead is very bad albeit I don't feel like getting in to it. It took me too long writing all of this already.

How is it the parents fault. They do it because it tastes good. You should tell the kid but he’ll still do it from time to time. There's no way to avoid it.

Hmm and whats the alternatives anyhow?

All they have to do is remove the fluoride from the toothpaste and greatly lower fluoride levels in water.


I'm kind of disappointed. I thought some of you would start researching this but it seems like the response is; ‘everything gives cancer so who cares?’.
I used to think like you guys until I research about all the chemicals they put in our food and the origins of the chemicals, that’s when I realized they're killing us.

 

[Ghost Kitty~]

Well you havent shown us that this is more than just irrational panic on your part? Youve just been going "Omgomgomg" and repeating the same things over and over which doesnt really compel us to change our minds

I feel that its mostly culture and media thats screwing over the US? Those scientists have all been drinking that water and yet theyre all still top scientists if they are anyhow Its laziness and whatever crap the media promotes telling the "mainstream popular kids" to go and ruin their own lives That is whats wrong with the US

Why not try researching why theres fluoride and what theyre already doing about it? You need to know both sides of the story if you want to convince people

 

[kactaplb]

I have a dentist friend, and have heard him bring up this subject. OP is correct in that even with careful brushing, there will still be residual fluoride consumption and overdose.

it seems like the response is; ‘everything gives cancer so who cares?’.

Completely correct. Along with farming pesticides, x-rays, and mercury in fish, it's the tradeoffs of living in a modern society. You will probably get cancer. The better question is, will the cancer kill you before old age? Unlikely.

Also comparing toothpaste to rat poison doesn't help you any.

 

[Will98]

I sometimes work in tobacco fields, planting, spraying, suckering, topping, etc. The chemicals that are used for insect control and plant health are indeed very poisonous.

The chemicals used for the pest control are always diluted with water. This is done because the plants can't handle the full strength of the chems and if too much is used then the surrounding foliage or the tobacco itself can die.

I always wash off after handling the chemicals and from being in the field. How that relates to fluoride is that just like the chems used on tobacco, it is okay for use if:

1. Used correctly
2. Diluted (Used with water or some other soluble)
3. Not swallowed.
4. All the above.

If the fluoride in the toothpaste was such a big concern, then the ADA and the Health Dept. would have already have removed the fluoride. They would have already produced an alternative to toothpaste, they would have just said, "Stop brushing your teeth all together." But since the benefits to fluoride outweigh children eating toothpaste, so the fluoride has stayed.

As a second staple, fluoride free toothpaste is available at some local stores and super markets.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Natural-Care-Antiplaque-Peppermint-Toothpaste-6-oz/12018598

Spoiler: Just One Example

 

[FAMAS]

Well you havent shown us that this is more than just irrational panic on your part? Youve just been going "Omgomgomg" and repeating the same things over and over which doesnt really compel us to change our minds

I feel that its mostly culture and media thats screwing over the US? Those scientists have all been drinking that water and yet theyre all still top scientists if they are anyhow Its laziness and whatever crap the media promotes telling the "mainstream popular kids" to go and ruin their own lives That is whats wrong with the US

Why not try researching why theres fluoride and what theyre already doing about it? You need to know both sides of the story if you want to convince people

I have but I also find out that Hitler used it to render the jews brain dead.

They get you on two fronts:
The psychological deterioration (media, television, etc)
The physical deterioration (chemicals your food, in your water, etc)

Irrational fear? If you saw me dumping this in your water supply, would you be cool with that? I guess it's okay if the government does it though.

HOLY SHIT!!! I just found out something new thanks to you!!!
HAZMAT Class 6 Toxic and Infectious Substances:
Poisonous material is a material, other than a gas, known to be so toxic to humans that it presents a health hazard during transportation.

I sometimes work in tobacco fields, planting, spraying, suckering, topping, etc. The chemicals that are used for insect control and plant health are indeed very poisonous.

The chemicals used for the pest control are always diluted with water. This is done because the plants can't handle the full strength of the chems and if too much is used then the surrounding foliage or the tobacco itself can die.

I always wash off after handling the chemicals and from being in the field. How that relates to fluoride is that just like the chems used on tobacco, it is okay for use if:

1. Used correctly
2. Diluted (Used with water or some other soluble)
3. Not swallowed.
4. All the above.

If the fluoride in the toothpaste was such a big concern, then the ADA and the Health Dept. would have already have removed the fluoride. They would have already produced an alternative to toothpaste, they would have just said, "Stop brushing your teeth all together." But since the benefits to fluoride outweigh children eating toothpaste, so the fluoride has stayed.

As a second staple, fluoride free toothpaste is available at some local stores and super markets.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Natural-Care-Antiplaque-Peppermint-Toothpaste-6-oz/12018598

Spoiler: Just One Example

All of those pesticides bioaccumulate in the earth and get sucked up by the plants. Then, either we or the animal eat them (in general, I'm not sure about the specifics of your case).
And I hope you're not breathing that and I HOPE you’re wearing armor or something.

Seems pretty high to me. That was in 2010, it rises year after year, epidemic.
http://www.upi.com/Health_News/2010...Americans-will-get-cancer/UPI-75711273192042/

 

[DvorakUser]

Hmmm... I'm still quite new to this forum, so I'm not completely sure when a thread is deemed dead: Please excuse my ignorance in this regard.

I haven't brushed my teeth in ~15 years (yes yes, say its gross if you want), and I have as close to perfect teeth as the next person. I actually stopped brushing my teeth because the taste of toothpaste was really bad, and irritated my mouth (burning etc). I've since adopted the anti-flouride argument as an excuse when people say its a bad thing not to brush your teeth. I'm well aware though that I'm still quite young, and my cavity-free teeth could simply be a result of my young age. So I'm not saying that not brushing your teeth will mean you'll never have cavities...

Now for the actual argument, I actually don't think the trace amounts of flouride you ingest after brushing teeth will have any ill effects. Ofcourse that's just my opinion, and is worth about as much as any other person's.

“The children in high fluoride areas had significantly lower IQ than those who lived in low fluoride areas.”

I'm always scared of quotes like the above: It's easy to forget that correlation does not mean causation. Although, they do provide proof in the form of

They also detailed how fluoride attacks developing babies and may permanently damage growing brains:

”Fluoride readily crosses the placenta. Fluoride exposure to the developing brain, which is much more susceptible to injury caused by toxicants than is the mature brain, may possibly lead to damage of a permanent nature.”

so perhaps I should be worried :/

As a sidenote: Rat poison would probably not be that bad for you: afaik rat poison is basically a blood thinner, which is trace amounts might do some good :D

 

[Will98]

Hmmm... I'm still quite new to this forum, so I'm not completely sure when a thread is deemed dead: Please excuse my ignorance in this regard.

As a sidenote: Rat poison would probably not be that bad for you: afaik rat poison is basically a blood thinner, which is trace amounts might do some good :D

Your fine and man, that was a good one. ^

 

[FAMAS]

Hmmm... I'm still quite new to this forum, so I'm not completely sure when a thread is deemed dead: Please excuse my ignorance in this regard.

I haven't brushed my teeth in ~15 years (yes yes, say its gross if you want), and I have as close to perfect teeth as the next person. I actually stopped brushing my teeth because the taste of toothpaste was really bad, and irritated my mouth (burning etc). I've since adopted the anti-flouride argument as an excuse when people say its a bad thing not to brush your teeth. I'm well aware though that I'm still quite young, and my cavity-free teeth could simply be a result of my young age. So I'm not saying that not brushing your teeth will mean you'll never have cavities...

Now for the actual argument, I actually don't think the trace amounts of flouride you ingest after brushing teeth will have any ill effects. Ofcourse that's just my opinion, and is worth about as much as any other person's.


I'm always scared of quotes like the above: It's easy to forget that correlation does not mean causation. Although, they do provide proof in the form of

so perhaps I should be worried :/

As a sidenote: Rat poison would probably not be that bad for you: afaik rat poison is basically a blood thinner, which is trace amounts might do some good :D

I too have stopped brushing my teeth because I realized that it made no difference at all. I do still rinse my mouth though (with water, as effective as mouthwash).

Start the first one at 8:27.

Spoiler

Spoiler

 

[setuna1279]

Okay, since this is serious business. I want to say one thing. If you want to convince the majority with rooted idea, you need to find out by yourself what is the key solution to this whole ordeal first. A key solution in my definition is something that can solve problems from most of the perspectives and it's definitely not an easy task. Many problems arising nowadays seem too obvious that they need to be stopped immediately at once like wars, violence... and your topic is by no mistake one of them too. A lot of people try to stop it and get people being aware of the problem like you are praise-worthy and deserve respect. However, most of the solutions given are just too biased, only thinking one-side but not the other.

You should remember that the other side, the one who is responsible for creating the mess, has a lot of smart and good people too. They realize the problems much earlier than you do but yet it seems that they don't do anything about it. Why? Because they made a mess that is impossible to escape from it. Unlike you, they have to be responsible to many other sides like their workers, the market, government... If they just stop making products like you suggest, what will happen? The workers will probably lose their jobs because of the drastic change. I won't talk in details regarding this drastic change but one thing is sure to obvious. It's meaningless to solve a problem while making another problem at the same time. What is the choice? Of course they will choose the one with least casualty and that is keeping the situation as it is right now until they find an appropriate solution.

If you want to alleviate the situation, help the other side how to fix this deal, not to criticize and demand them or other people doing this and that.

Anyway, that was a too off from the topic but I still need to say it. I know the problem now but that still can't change my life in anyway. I still have to brush my teeth with those kinds of toothpaste and drink water purified by fluoride. It's not like I can do anything to change the situation much though.

 

[Ghost Kitty~]

Hmm actually i find brushing helpful~ Teeth feel different before and after brushing though that has little to do with tooth paste...

 

[FAMAS]

Okay, since this is serious business. I want to say one thing. If you want to convince the majority with rooted idea, you need to find out by yourself what is the key solution to this whole ordeal first. A key solution in my definition is something that can solve problems from most of the perspectives and it's definitely not an easy task. Many problems arising nowadays seem too obvious that they need to be stopped immediately at once like wars, violence... and your topic is by no mistake one of them too. A lot of people try to stop it and get people being aware of the problem like you are praise-worthy and deserve respect. However, most of the solutions given are just too biased, only thinking one-side but not the other.

You should remember that the other side, the one who is responsible for creating the mess, has a lot of smart and good people too. They realize the problems much earlier than you do but yet it seems that they don't do anything about it. Why? Because they made a mess that is impossible to escape from it. Unlike you, they have to be responsible to many other sides like their workers, the market, government... If they just stop making products like you suggest, what will happen? The workers will probably lose their jobs because of the drastic change. I won't talk in details regarding this drastic change but one thing is sure to obvious. It's meaningless to solve a problem while making another problem at the same time. What is the choice? Of course they will choose the one with least casualty and that is keeping the situation as it is right now until they find an appropriate solution.

If you want to alleviate the situation, help the other side how to fix this deal, not to criticize and demand them or other people doing this and that.

Anyway, that was a too off from the topic but I still need to say it. I know the problem now but that still can't change my life in anyway. I still have to brush my teeth with those kinds of toothpaste and drink water purified by fluoride. It's not like I can do anything to change the situation much though.

Sometimes, they’ll get fired and lose their career.
It's easier to just go along with what everyone else is doing.
It’s a lot of hard work!
When a person is bleeding to death on the street, most people will just walk by. There's also these factors and more but you are right. I was just trying to make you aware that fluoride is bad so I didn’t really think about that.

Solution 1: Remove fluoride from the tap water.
Too bad for those workers, you can't help them. It does way more damage than what I mentioned and there's just no way you can compromise with this.

Spoiler: Solution 2: The compromise

If you start thinking that way nothing will get solved. Why should we stop killing people in the middle east? If we do, soldiers will lose their job so I guess we’ll just keep on killing them. Corporations make it so there's no easy way out to discourage you, I guess you can say make you dependent on their system.

 

[wren2012]

mainly you need to get the plaque off..that's what brushing is for. i still use toothpaste and drink tap water....i'll take them minerals and fluoride! think about this...you've been using it for so long to begin with...wouldn't your body have built up a near immunity to it by now?