Learning Kanjis with Mahjong (lesson for mahjong as well) [Need kana knowledge] Lesson 1

[SakuraFreak]

Learning Kanjis with Mahjong (lesson for mahjong as well) [Need kana knowledge] Lesson 2 (kanjis cited: 32)

Well i will try to let it simple and many kanjis as possible..

Spoiler: Ｌｅｓｓｏｎ１=Understading the name Mahjong

First i will introduze only Mahjong name


麻雀（まあじゃん＝Mahjong）　First kanji is 麻(あさ＝Ｆｌａｘ） Second Kanji 雀(すずめ＝Ｓｐａｒｒｏｗ)

The kanji 麻 is easy to remember if you already know these kanjis, 木、林、森.
It just add a 3 traces (麻). the another traces is all from 木. The signify is very easy to remember too.
Because (if you don't know),
木(き）＝Ｔｒｅｅ
林（はやし）＝Ｃｏｐｓｅ
麻（あさ）＝Ｆｌａｘ
森（もり）＝Ｆｏｒｅｓｔ

ATTENTION
木 is different from 本

本（ほん）＝Ｂｏｏｋ　Tip:本 is used for ほんとう(true)* as well. Is used many times this one.

Now The kanji 雀 Is 2 Kanjis merged.
The merged radicals are 少 and 隹

少＝(Signify nothing alone but..) Manly used for
少女(しょうじょ）＝Ｙｏｕｎｇ　Ｇｉｒｌ
女（おんあ）＝Ｗｏｍａｎ

隹＝（Dont need to remember this one its from chinese alphabet, in japanese alphabet its only used "merged"(as radical) in kanjis like for example 雀　or 雉

And to finish
You can write 麻雀 in kataka alphabet as well (マージャン). Much easier lol

Spoiler: Ｌｅｓｓｏｎ２=Introducing The マージャン Tiles

We only need to use 2 equipments to play マージャン, the tiles (136 in total), and 2 six-sided dices.
We will have 5 types of titles, ワンズ、ピンズ、ソーズ、風牌(かぜはい）　and 三元牌（さんげんぱい）.

The names in Katakana is to simplify the names for the tiles. Well don't need to remember for really but the kanjis is important to differ.

ワンズ will use numbers(seriously? i can't see any number!)。 Well in japan numbers are written in kanji as well(unfortunately)...

一（いち）＝Ｏｎｅ　

二（に）＝Ｔｗｏ
　

三（さん）＝Ｔｈｒｅｅ　

四（よん）＝Ｆｏｕｒ

五（ご）＝Ｆｉｖｅ　

六（ろく）＝Ｓｉｘ

七（しち）＝Ｓｅｖｅｎ　

八(はち）＝Ｅｉｇｈｔ

九（きゅう）＝Ｎｉｎｅ

十（じゅう）＝Ｔｅｎ

The kanji bellow the numbers on the tiles ワンズ is 萬(まん）＝１０，０００
hmm just for curiosity the kanjis for 100 and 1.000 are:
百(ひゃく）＝Ｈｕｎｄｒｅｄ
千（せん）＝Ｔｈｏｕｓａｎｄ
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Examples to howーtoーuse:
十七（じゅうしち or じゅうなな ）＝１７

八十四（はちじゅうよん）＝８４

二百十（にひゃくじゅう）＝２１０

千八百（せんはっぴゃく）＝１，８００

And there goes...
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Now for 風牌（かぜはい）=Wind Tile

風(かぜ）＝Ｗｉｎｄ
牌（はい／ぱい）＝Ｔｉｌｅ
東（ひがし）＝Ｅａｓｔ
南（みなみ）＝Ｓｏｕｔｈ
西（にし）＝Ｗｅｓｔ
北（きた）＝Ｎｏｒｔｈ
四風牌（よんかぜはい）＝Ｆｏｕｒ　Ｗｉｎｄｓ　Ｔｉｌｅｓ

（四風牌　Ｉｓ　ｍｅｔｉｏｎｅｄ　ａｓ　スーフォンパイ　ｉｎ　マージャン Ｍａｔｃｈｅｓ）

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And now the last kanjis for the 三元牌（さんげんぱい）＝The three units tiles(Some people call as "dragon tiles"):

元(もとor げん）＝もと signify Origin. But in マージャン you read as げん, Unit of currency in China.

發（はっする）＝Ｉｇｎｉｔｅ
中(ちゅう）＝Ｍｅｄｉｕｍ

中 kanji is usually used as なか（Ｉｎｓｉｄｅ） in galge games.... lol i guess you can understand why.

Kanjis cited so far: 32

 

[perrypig123]

Re: Learning Kanjis with Mahjong (lesson for mahjong as well) [Need kana knowledge] Lesson 2 (kanjis cited: 32)

well im chinese but in chinese 林 ment forest??
anways thanks for the lesson + can u add rules for mahjong.. cos i tried to learn it to understand what saki was on about when they played mahjong but i didnt understand scoring D=

 

[SakuraFreak]

Re: Learning Kanjis with Mahjong (lesson for mahjong as well) [Need kana knowledge] Lesson 2 (kanjis cited: 32)

well im chinese but in chinese 林 ment forest??
anways thanks for the lesson + can u add rules for mahjong.. cos i tried to learn it to understand what saki was on about when they played mahjong but i didnt understand scoring D=

no, no.

林 is..
Copse=A thicket of small trees or bushes.
Is like a small forest... or so. lol

Well in japanese is copse, but i wonder in chinese...


Oh, by the way i will try to add about it. Recently was watching "-Saki- Side A", and made me remember this thread. lol


A brief resume about points:
Is about the difficult of your winning hand... i will show an exemple from the anime (first season).


Caution! SPOILER FROM EPISODE 19!

Spoiler: lol

Well little complex but. Just showing to you understand this match, and showing as example too the point system(so-so).

After i will explain better lol



edit:

Oh forgot to say... RISHAN KAIHO IS HARD AS HELL... EVEN MORE WITH 3 KANS AT SAME TIME DX

 

[~dreamer~]

actually, 林「はやし」 also means woods or forest in Japanese.
never seen it being used to mean corpse
edit: misread copse as corpse...fail on my part haha ^^;; thanks @below

少「しょう」 means few or little
if used with another kanji or itself, it's usually read as しょう
in other cases it can be read as すく　（少ない）、すこ（少し） depending on the word

it can also be used with itself. 少々「少少」 means just a little. For example, when ordering food, they might tell you 少々お待ちください, or "please wait a moment". it can also be used as a synonym to 少し。

少 = little
女 = woman
少女 = little woman, that is, a girl. makes sense.

typos
女
should be read as おんな

十七
should be read as either じゅうしち or じゅうなな (both readings are common)
千八百ー＞せんはっぴゃく
note the change. it's not read as ひゃく、but っぴゃく

started learning to play Mahjong - it's quite fun, even though i have horrible luck with it lol.

RISHAN KAIHO is not hard, it's pretty much impossible rofl unless you are like Saki and have godly luck

 

[FinalPyre]

actually, 林「はやし」 also means woods or forest in Japanese.
never seen it being used to mean corpse

Copse != corpse. I misread that too at first and it caught me off-guard. :)

Copse is like a small bunch of trees, like a mini-forest.

 

[SakuraFreak]

Ugh, totally forgot this thread x_X i'll probably just finish making the multiplier section... Too lazy though because translating a game...

I laughed at corpse xD

Hmmm. but doesn't 少 need a compound ideograph formation with kanji/hiragana to make a meaning?
少し=is little imo.


about "おんな"... >< blame IME!!damn annoying to write nn-na to appear おんな sometimes i forgot 1 n x_X

"せんはっぴゃく" ugh this one i really didnt know.

"unless you are Saki" Just download -Saki- Portable and be happy lel (This game is WAY cheated, sometimes annoying because the enemies are impossible some times...)

A bizarre example, choose 4 Sakis in the same game. The game will draw at the second~fourth round because they'll close the game making KAN spam lol

 

[~dreamer~]

yea. 少し does mean little, or few
for ～百
the reading can change depending on the number in front
ex:
三百「さんびゃく」 (nasal)
四百「よんひゃく」 (unchanged)
八百「はっぴゃく」 (strong)

i just play mahjong on my ipad lol (it's called 麻雀天極牌 if you're wondering)

 

[~dreamer~]

Re: Learning Kanjis with Mahjong (lesson for mahjong as well) [Need kana knowledge] Lesson 2 (kanjis cited: 32)

can u add rules for mahjong.. cos i tried to learn it to understand what saki was on about when they played mahjong but i didnt understand scoring D=

someone already made a very nice (though somewhat long) tutorial

Spoiler

I also made a summary of the rules based on his videos. I can upload it if you want ^^

edit: spoiler tag fail

 

[SakuraFreak]

Re: Learning Kanjis with Mahjong (lesson for mahjong as well) [Need kana knowledge] Lesson 2 (kanjis cited: 32)

someone already made a very nice (though somewhat long) tutorial

Spoiler

I also made a summary of the rules based on his videos. I can upload it if you want ^^

edit: spoiler tag fail

Holy Crap, 1 Hour... and is just part 1;

And oh, would be nice a resume with the rules and point system, if you have.

Multiplier i have already an e-book just for that (is pretty hard to remember all S multipliers variations).

Point system is a pain in the neck. If you have would be a great help! ><''

 

[~dreamer~]

These are my notes from watching the 4 videos. I still recommend watching to get the most out of the notes.

Basic layout & flow of the game

note: discard pile should be 3 rows, not 2 (typo)
a meld is either a sequence (ex. tiles 1,2,3 of same suit) or a set (ex. tiles 3, 3, 3,3 of same suit) of 3(=triplet) or 4(=quad) tiles. all yakus require 4 melds and a pair except for "seven pairs" and "13 orphans"

more yaku hands

Special sequences, riichii, tempai, furiten

Scoring: tempai, basic points

see also mangan

Payment

(tags, please work..)

 

[SakuraFreak]

Ok, thanks. Tomorrow i'll organize everything.