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    Post Learning Kanjis with Mahjong (lesson for mahjong as well) [Need kana knowledge] Lesson 2 (kanjis cited: 32)

    Well i will try to let it simple and many kanjis as possible..



      Spoiler: Lesson1=Understading the name Mahjong 
    First i will introduze only Mahjong name


    麻雀
    (まあじゃん=Mahjong) First kanji is (あさ=Flax) Second Kanji (すずめ=Sparrow)

    The kanji is easy to remember if you already know these kanjis, 木、林、森.
    It just add a 3 traces (麻). the another traces is all from 木. The signify is very easy to remember too.
    Because (if you don't know),
    (き)=Tree
    (はやし)=Copse
    (あさ)=Flax
    (もり)=Forest


    ATTENTION
    is different from

    (ほん)=Book Tip:本 is used for ほんとう(true)* as well. Is used many times this one.

    Now The kanji Is 2 Kanjis merged.
    The merged radicals are and

    少=(Signify nothing alone but..) Manly used for
    少女(しょうじょ)=Young Girl
    (おんあ)=Woman

    隹=(Dont need to remember this one its from chinese alphabet, in japanese alphabet its only used "merged"(as radical) in kanjis like for example 雀 or 雉

    And to finish
    You can write 麻雀 in kataka alphabet as well (マージャン). Much easier lol


      Spoiler: Lesson2=Introducing The マージャン Tiles 

    We only need to use 2 equipments to play マージャン, the tiles (136 in total), and 2 six-sided dices.
    We will have 5 types of titles, ワンズ、ピンズ、ソーズ、風牌(かぜはい) and 三元牌(さんげんぱい).

    The names in Katakana is to simplify the names for the tiles. Well don't need to remember for really but the kanjis is important to differ.

    ワンズ will use numbers(seriously? i can't see any number!)。 Well in japan numbers are written in kanji as well(unfortunately)...

    一(いち)=One 

    二(に)=Two
     

    三(さん)=Three 

    四(よん)=Four

    (ご)=Five 

    六(ろく)=Six

    七(しち)=Seven 

    八(はち)=Eight

    九(きゅう)=Nine

    十(じゅう)=Ten


    The kanji bellow the numbers on the tiles ワンズ is (まん)=10,000
    hmm just for curiosity the kanjis for 100 and 1.000 are:
    百(ひゃく)=Hundred
    千(せん)=Thousand
    ________________________________________________________________________
    Examples to howーtoーuse:
    十七(じゅうしち or じゅうなな )=17

    八十四(はちじゅうよん)=84

    二百十(にひゃくじゅう)=210

    千八百(せんはっぴゃく)=1,800

    And there goes...
    __________________________________________________________
    Now for 風牌(かぜはい)=Wind Tile

    (かぜ)=Wind
    (はい/ぱい)=Tile
    (ひがし)=East
    (みなみ)=South
    西(にし)=West
    (きた)=North
    四風牌(よんかぜはい)=Four Winds Tiles

    (四風牌 Is metioned as スーフォンパイ in マージャン Matches)

    ________________________________________________________________________
    And now the last kanjis for the 三元牌(さんげんぱい)=The three units tiles(Some people call as "dragon tiles"):

    (もとor げん)=もと signify Origin. But in マージャン you read as げん, Unit of currency in China.

    (はっする)=Ignite
    (ちゅう)=Medium

    中 kanji is usually used as なか(Inside) in galge games.... lol i guess you can understand why.



    Kanjis cited so far: 32
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    Re: Learning Kanjis with Mahjong (lesson for mahjong as well) [Need kana knowledge] Lesson 2 (kanjis cited: 32)

    well im chinese but in chinese 林 ment forest??
    anways thanks for the lesson + can u add rules for mahjong.. cos i tried to learn it to understand what saki was on about when they played mahjong but i didnt understand scoring D=
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    Re: Learning Kanjis with Mahjong (lesson for mahjong as well) [Need kana knowledge] Lesson 2 (kanjis cited: 32)

    Quote Originally Posted by perrypig123 View Post
    well im chinese but in chinese 林 ment forest??
    anways thanks for the lesson + can u add rules for mahjong.. cos i tried to learn it to understand what saki was on about when they played mahjong but i didnt understand scoring D=
    no, no.

    林 is..
    Copse=A thicket of small trees or bushes.
    Is like a small forest... or so. lol

    Well in japanese is copse, but i wonder in chinese...


    Oh, by the way i will try to add about it. Recently was watching "-Saki- Side A", and made me remember this thread. lol


    A brief resume about points:
    Is about the difficult of your winning hand... i will show an exemple from the anime (first season).


    Caution! SPOILER FROM EPISODE 19!

      Spoiler: lol 



    Well little complex but. Just showing to you understand this match, and showing as example too the point system(so-so).

    After i will explain better lol



    edit:

    Oh forgot to say... RISHAN KAIHO IS HARD AS HELL... EVEN MORE WITH 3 KANS AT SAME TIME DX
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    Re: Learning Kanjis with Mahjong (lesson for mahjong as well) [Need kana knowledge] Lesson 1

    actually, 林「はやし」 also means woods or forest in Japanese.
    never seen it being used to mean corpse
    edit: misread copse as corpse...fail on my part haha ^^;; thanks @below

    少「しょう」 means few or little
    if used with another kanji or itself, it's usually read as しょう
    in other cases it can be read as すく (少ない)、すこ(少し) depending on the word

    it can also be used with itself. 少々「少少」 means just a little. For example, when ordering food, they might tell you 少々お待ちください, or "please wait a moment". it can also be used as a synonym to 少し。

    少 = little
    女 = woman
    少女 = little woman, that is, a girl. makes sense.

    typos

    should be read as おんな

    十七
    should be read as either じゅうしち or じゅうなな (both readings are common)
    千八百ー>せんはっぴゃく
    note the change. it's not read as ひゃく、but っぴゃく

    started learning to play Mahjong - it's quite fun, even though i have horrible luck with it lol.

    RISHAN KAIHO is not hard, it's pretty much impossible rofl unless you are like Saki and have godly luck
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    Re: Learning Kanjis with Mahjong (lesson for mahjong as well) [Need kana knowledge] Lesson 1

    Quote Originally Posted by ~dreamer~ View Post
    actually, 林「はやし」 also means woods or forest in Japanese.
    never seen it being used to mean corpse
    Copse != corpse. I misread that too at first and it caught me off-guard.

    Copse is like a small bunch of trees, like a mini-forest.
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    Re: Learning Kanjis with Mahjong (lesson for mahjong as well) [Need kana knowledge] Lesson 1

    Ugh, totally forgot this thread x_X i'll probably just finish making the multiplier section... Too lazy though because translating a game...

    I laughed at corpse xD

    Hmmm. but doesn't 少 need a compound ideograph formation with kanji/hiragana to make a meaning?
    少し=is little imo.


    about "おんな"... >< blame IME!!damn annoying to write nn-na to appear おんな sometimes i forgot 1 n x_X

    "せんはっぴゃく" ugh this one i really didnt know.

    "unless you are Saki" Just download -Saki- Portable and be happy lel (This game is WAY cheated, sometimes annoying because the enemies are impossible some times...)

    A bizarre example, choose 4 Sakis in the same game. The game will draw at the second~fourth round because they'll close the game making KAN spam lol

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    Re: Learning Kanjis with Mahjong (lesson for mahjong as well) [Need kana knowledge] Lesson 1

    yea. 少し does mean little, or few
    for ~百
    the reading can change depending on the number in front
    ex:
    三百「さんびゃく」 (nasal)
    四百「よんひゃく」 (unchanged)
    八百「はっぴゃく」 (strong)

    i just play mahjong on my ipad lol (it's called 麻雀天極牌 if you're wondering)

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    Re: Learning Kanjis with Mahjong (lesson for mahjong as well) [Need kana knowledge] Lesson 2 (kanjis cited: 32)

    Quote Originally Posted by perrypig123 View Post
    can u add rules for mahjong.. cos i tried to learn it to understand what saki was on about when they played mahjong but i didnt understand scoring D=
    someone already made a very nice (though somewhat long) tutorial
    [SPOILER] [/SPOILER]

    I also made a summary of the rules based on his videos. I can upload it if you want ^^

    edit: spoiler tag fail

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    Re: Learning Kanjis with Mahjong (lesson for mahjong as well) [Need kana knowledge] Lesson 2 (kanjis cited: 32)

    Quote Originally Posted by ~dreamer~ View Post
    someone already made a very nice (though somewhat long) tutorial
    [SPOILER] [/SPOILER]

    I also made a summary of the rules based on his videos. I can upload it if you want ^^

    edit: spoiler tag fail

    Holy Crap, 1 Hour... and is just part 1;

    And oh, would be nice a resume with the rules and point system, if you have.

    Multiplier i have already an e-book just for that (is pretty hard to remember all S multipliers variations).

    Point system is a pain in the neck. If you have would be a great help! ><''

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    Re: Learning Kanjis with Mahjong (lesson for mahjong as well) [Need kana knowledge] Lesson 1

    These are my notes from watching the 4 videos. I still recommend watching to get the most out of the notes.

    Basic layout & flow of the game

    note: discard pile should be 3 rows, not 2 (typo)
    a meld is either a sequence (ex. tiles 1,2,3 of same suit) or a set (ex. tiles 3, 3, 3,3 of same suit) of 3(=triplet) or 4(=quad) tiles. all yakus require 4 melds and a pair except for "seven pairs" and "13 orphans"

    more yaku hands

    Special sequences, riichii, tempai, furiten


    Scoring: tempai, basic points

    see also mangan

    Payment


    (tags, please work..)
    Last edited by ~dreamer~; June 4th, 2013 at 05:57 PM.

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