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    Re: [ILLUSION] Honey♥Select (ハニーセレクト) - Discussion & FAQ

    can anyone tell me how to make a shota male character like in the play club shota?

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    Re: [ILLUSION] Honey♥Select (ハニーセレクト) - Discussion & FAQ

    Quote Originally Posted by HornedSenpai View Post
    Waa, why would they make a new title when HS has so many potential left?! I don't get it. But the mod community will still continue to work and deliver contents, I hope? Because there are so many things that could and should be done!
    One single reason : money. Illusion is employing around 40 people, they can't allow themselves to stay long without incomes. And incomes come from sales. Updating a game that doesn't sale anymore won't help them, only releasing a new title will.

    If there's any chance for them to keep on releasing new content for Honey Select, they'll add another expansion and sell it like they always do (and just did with the "active" personality). I pretty much foresaw that the game would receive an expack less than a week after its release (read the end of this post), but now, I don't see them adding anything new : they've already set their deadline for VR Kanojo and cannot disperse their efforts.


    Quote Originally Posted by ramoram View Post
    I not interested in coming VR pedo-game they are releasing.
    Please, don't do that here. First, there's nothing "pedo" about a post-pubescent high school girl. Second, as a moderator, I won't accept any form of kink-shaming on this board, especially when it targets a large subset of the users (most of the girls pictured around here are still wearing sailor uniforms for a reason, you know ?).

    Lastly, even if it doesn't interest you, the upcoming title is going to be something big for Illusion. In terms of revenue, I can already tell that it will pulverise any records they could have set with the previous titles, and more money for them is better games for us.


    Quote Originally Posted by pingtoryan View Post
    Every previous projects of theirs thus far had been wasted potentials and cases of one step forward and two steps back...whatddya expect?
    This is what happen when you have different teams working on different games while not relying on an unified codebase : the improvements made by one of the team cannot immediately be rolled back in other games without breaking features currently being worked on by the other teams.

    Still, innovations trickle down after a while : you can see it through the evolution of their "Real Body" models. They began working on high-details female bodies around 2010 with Real Kanojo and SB Zero, only to reuse them two years after on Love Girl, then one year after on Real Play. In parallel, they (another team ?) also worked on highly customisable female bodies first featured in games like Premium Play Darkness and Immoral Ward (2013).

    Going from the high-customisation bodies from the 2013 PPD to the high-details ones from 2014's Real Play really felt like going "one step forward and two step back" at that time. But the year after, they were able to merge the best of both world in both Play Club and SBPR. This year, they improved the SBPR variant further with Honey Select, and the upcoming VR Kanojo will feature a more detailed version of it while probably ditching a lot of its customisation potential. And I wouldn't be surprised to see a further variation of Play Club models in a 2017 title (probably from the Play Series, then), nor another try at an open-world game (we're all waiting for a new Artificial title).

    Games aren't meant to be made and released on a less-than-1-year basis like Illusion does. So, to have a grasp at the progression of their game, you have to stop comparing them on a release-to-release basis and look at the bigger picture : see the evolution from Immoral Ward to Honey Select, for example. When doing so, you can see how much they progressed during the last few years.


    Quote Originally Posted by HornedSenpai View Post
    Anyway, Dr. Yoshi, will you link another new complete patch update as you've done in the EMF-thread? With all recent updates and so on in order that we only shall install that patch on a clean game version?
    I'm working on it. It should be available before the end of the week.

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    Re: [ILLUSION] Honey♥Select (ハニーセレクト) - Discussion & FAQ

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Yoshi View Post
    Please, don't do that here. First, there's nothing "pedo" about a post-pubescent high school girl. Second, as a moderator, I won't accept any form of kink-shaming on this board, especially when it targets a large subset of the users (most of the girls pictured around here are still wearing sailor uniforms for a reason, you know ?).

    Lastly, even if it doesn't interest you, the upcoming title is going to be something big for Illusion. In terms of revenue, I can already tell that it will pulverise any records they could have set with the previous titles, and more money for them is better games for us.
    You can spin it anyway you want to; in the end, what matters is that it's a VR game, and not everyone is able to shell out money for an expensive piece of equipment; or, in my case, not desiring to.
    Pulverizing other records? Do that many people really have VR equipment? And do you really think the ones that don't are willing to pay for it? That's quite a bold statement.

    Whether you're interested in High School girls or not makes no difference. What I'm most worried about is whether this is a direction they will be sticking with, and personally, I hope it's not.
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    Re: [ILLUSION] Honey♥Select (ハニーセレクト) - Discussion & FAQ

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Yoshi View Post
    One single reason : money. Illusion is employing around 40 people, they can't allow themselves to stay long without incomes. And incomes come from sales. Updating a game that doesn't sale anymore won't help them, only releasing a new title will.

    If there's any chance for them to keep on releasing new content for Honey Select, they'll add another expansion and sell it like they always do (and just did with the "active" personality). I pretty much foresaw that the game would receive an expack less than a week after its release (read the end of this post), but now, I don't see them adding anything new : they've already set their deadline for VR Kanojo and cannot disperse their efforts.
    I see, well thats understandable on the one side, but unfortunate on the other, at least for players like us.
    Thats the reason why they should expand in the West. I never understood why they do Japan-only releases. Was there some reason behind this policy? I think they could make so much more money with it.

    I simply hope they will keep up to release at least some further expansions for HS.

    What is "VR Kanojo" anyway? Wouldn't it be only interesting for people with VR which are (afaik) not that much, even in Japan?


    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Yoshi
    I'm working on it. It should be available before the end of the week.
    Yes!

    Thank you for everything. :]

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    Re: [ILLUSION] Honey♥Select (ハニーセレクト) - Discussion & FAQ

    Quote Originally Posted by tmvaegis View Post
    You can spin it anyway you want to; in the end, what matters is that it's a VR game, and not everyone is able to shell out money for an expensive piece of equipment; or, in my case, not desiring to.
    Think about it : do you actually buy games from Illusion ? Most of us around here aren't Illusion customers. To them, we're non-representative. Personally, I bought very few of their games, while still playing them all thanks to torrents and other files sharing.
    And most of the people that are unable or unwilling to spend two grands on VR-capable hardware wouldn't be buying the game anyway, even if it was a "flat" non-VR game. They would grab a link on Nyaa or here on AS and play it for free, like they (like we?) always do.

    Illusion is not a charity. Why would they target a market made of people that aren't ready to shell out their dollars ? They aim at players who are ready to spend 50 bucks on a small indie game, and those are the exact same kind of players that would spend $1,000 on a first-generation prototype-y VR head-mounted display.

    Strategically, their positioning is really good. Illusion may not be the greatest when it comes to game development, but no other company knows this market better. From a business standpoint, they're always been on top of the game and this is the reason why they're still standing strong on a small subset of a niche market (3D eroge).


    Quote Originally Posted by tmvaegis View Post
    Pulverizing other records? Do that many people really have VR equipment? And do you really think the ones that don't are willing to pay for it? That's quite a bold statement.
    Note that the key word in that quoted sentence is "in terms of revenue".

    I'll detail that later (low priority, currently) in VR Kanojo discussion thread, but this game leverages the models and source code from Honey Select : it's a game they slapped together in a semester to surf on the VR hype and not a investment-heavy, long-term project like SBPR or AA2. The ROI is going to be fantastic on this one, especially with the amount of publicity that already surrounds it.

    Now, note that the most recent analysis and forecast data estimates the number of VR-enabled PCs around 1 million units. It's already a pretty big potential customer base, and as told, early adopters of VR are by definition the kind of players that are ready to spend money on bleeding-edge toys. On top of that, there are new and cheaper devices around the corner (look for CES next week). In the upcoming two months until the game release, the VR market will still be growing.

    And, by the way : VR Kanojo may be one of those games that pushes customers to shell out $2K on equipment. Never underestimate the purchasing power of sex-craving otaku : there are people out there that put thrice that price to get themselves real-sized silicone dolls.


    Quote Originally Posted by tmvaegis View Post
    Whether you're interested in High School girls or not makes no difference. What I'm most worried about is whether this is a direction they will be sticking with, and personally, I hope it's not.
    I don't think they will go "full-VR" from the get-go : there will be a transition phase. Expect them to include VR support in all of their games, and to regularly drop VR-only titles like VR Kanojo into their release schedule (once a year, or once every three games).

    But ultimately, VR is sure going to take a lot of space in the 3D adult gaming world. Five years from now on, you can expect that more than half the games will play in VR. It's a really big step forward : similar to the transition from 2D to 3D, we'll see an evolution from 3D to VR (stereoscopic 6-dof 3D).

    When we'll get there, even entry-level GPU will be VR-ready and you'll be able to buy cheap Chinese-manufactured headsets for $99. The only hurdles to personal VR adoption won't then be money, but the players beliefs and convictions toward this technology. And those usually just blow away after the first time you try a VR experience.


    Quote Originally Posted by HornedSenpai View Post
    Thats the reason why they should expand in the West. I never understood why they do Japan-only releases. Was there some reason behind this policy? I think they could make so much more money with it.
    They only release in Japan because the West has a tendency to go full-retard when they see nipples. And if it's a schoolgirl nipple, you're in for one hell of a shitstorm (even here on AS, we have people that can't stand underage characters). That's how we end up having feminist associations petitioning the UN to try to make Japan ban eroge.

    But VR Kanojo is planned for a world-wide release. I hope that it will drive them to go international for all of their titles (or at least, the non-rapey ones, since those are banned in a large part of the "first" world).


    Quote Originally Posted by HornedSenpai View Post
    What is "VR Kanojo" anyway? Wouldn't it be only interesting for people with VR which are (afaik) not that much, even in Japan?
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    Re: [ILLUSION] Honey♥Select (ハニーセレクト) - Discussion & FAQ

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Yoshi View Post
    They only release in Japan because the West has a tendency to go full-retard when they see nipples. And if it's a schoolgirl nipple, you're in for one hell of a shitstorm (even here on AS, we have people that can't stand underage characters). That's how we end up having feminist associations petitioning the UN to try to make Japan ban eroge.

    But VR Kanojo is planned for a world-wide release. I hope that it will drive them to go international for all of their titles (or at least, the non-rapey ones, since those are banned in a large part of the "first" world).
    Yeah the West has its cancers like Feminism and Christianity (which surely has its influence in the US and thus the outdated sexual philosophy). I hope we can wipe them out one day and have a full realm of eroges and waifus. ;D

    But I think the point is much more clear to me now.

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    Re: [ILLUSION] Honey♥Select (ハニーセレクト) - Discussion & FAQ

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Yoshi View Post


    They only release in Japan because the West has a tendency to go full-retard when they see nipples. And if it's a schoolgirl nipple, you're in for one hell of a shitstorm (even here on AS, we have people that can't stand underage characters). That's how we end up having feminist associations petitioning the UN to try to make Japan ban eroge.
    I'm not an expert on the matter but I half disagree with this. We still get lots of non JP porn related media sold here, including porn videos and games. They're criticized? of course, like any other media. If Japan doesn't sell this stuff here it's probably because they don't see the costs worth (localization, distribution, english support...), as you said, they're a company aiming for profit.

    And, if it's REALLY because "OMG feminist" then they need to grown a thicker skin.

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    Re: [ILLUSION] Honey♥Select (ハニーセレクト) - Discussion & FAQ

    @Dr. Yoshi
    That's an interesting line you have drawn between a underage and post-pubescent. Do you know the minimum age of puberty can be from 12 to 16. If I embarrassed large community of people having that fetish then they are one who need real help. They can have my sympathy for mental-disorder they are suffering but not my regrets and nor apologies for what I said earlier.
    I am not sure why would Western get nuts over porn games when there is wild spread of 3D Sex Villa and other Western porn games already in their region. The nudity in GTA, God of Wars etc. This is a pure double-standard bullshit that doesn't justify why Eastern region (specifically Japan) not to introduce their products in the West.
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    Re: [ILLUSION] Honey♥Select (ハニーセレクト) - Discussion & FAQ

    This is a Mod request:
    Can someone please for the love of the nine divines create a registry fix or upload a Blank reg file so i can edit it...I have an AlienWare 14th gen laptop with win 10...and so far win 10 is being a pain in my A** and i already tried downgrading to win7 but can't so i had to restore win 10 to factory settings because the previous owner couldn't tell his head for his ass with this gorgeous laptop...and i really don't feel like downloading the game again... pleas helps me

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    I had no Idea windows 10 had an auto detect Regfixer for newer games, I thought this game was going to be like AA2 etc etc...

    Learn something new everyday i guess...
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    Re: [ILLUSION] Honey♥Select (ハニーセレクト) - Discussion & FAQ

    hi guys..
    im new here,
    just a simple & quick question

    - how to get 2 male( or more) with 1 female character in the same room ? i saw 2 male & 1 female in a screenshot from rape clothes mod

    thankyou

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