Puella Magi Madoka Magica the Movie Part III: Rebellion <SPOILERS INSIDE>
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Ah, that's it. I knew it started with an "R." Saw the trailer during the NYCC Aniplex panel, although I think the one I saw was slightly longer...
And yes, very excited.
Ah, that's it. I knew it started with an "R." Saw the trailer during the NYCC Aniplex panel, although I think the one I saw was slightly longer...
And yes, very excited.
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This post contains zero spoilers.
So I couldn't wait. I watched Rebellion in camrip with the camera that didn't capture the entire screen.
While I seem to be back to normal now, I was completely speechless when the film ended. I haven't been able to wrap my head around the events and I demand we engage in a thorough discussion as to what the hell happened whenever you guys get around to seeing it. That is all.
This post contains zero spoilers.
So I couldn't wait. I watched Rebellion in camrip with the camera that didn't capture the entire screen.
While I seem to be back to normal now, I was completely speechless when the film ended. I haven't been able to wrap my head around the events and I demand we engage in a thorough discussion as to what the hell happened whenever you guys get around to seeing it. That is all.
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MADOKA MOVIE PART 3 DISCUSSION <HUGE SPOILERS>
Discussion of Puella Magi Madoka Magica the Movie: The Rebellion Story. Post your thoughts and pure your soul in this thread. I personally cried and did not even know why. The shock of the ending was too great. Truly worthy of being called a tragedy.
Discussion of Puella Magi Madoka Magica the Movie: The Rebellion Story. Post your thoughts and pure your soul in this thread. I personally cried and did not even know why. The shock of the ending was too great. Truly worthy of being called a tragedy.
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Are we abandoning this thread? I left my thoughts on that already.
Are we abandoning this thread? I left my thoughts on that already.
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[MENTION=59026]加藤浩[/MENTION] What do you want me to do? Close this thread? Close that thread? or merge the two together?
[MENTION=59026]加藤浩[/MENTION] What do you want me to do? Close this thread? Close that thread? or merge the two together?
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Merging the two together would be a good idea, I just thought I should make this one apart since it would contain spoilers. The first one was meant for those who have not seen the movie yet.
Merging the two together would be a good idea, I just thought I should make this one apart since it would contain spoilers. The first one was meant for those who have not seen the movie yet.
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I figured that was the case, but seeing as how it's starting to hit theatres in North America now (or very soon), it may become redundant to have a "speculation thread".
To bring back what I wrote in the other thread:
Nov 17, 21:24:
Jesus they got Warner Bros on this film.
edit: omg this transformation thing is so LOL
Nov 17, 23:54:
Holy -
I just finished Rebellion. I am speechless. I almost want to curl up and let 2 days fly by.
Topic question (previously posed elsewhere):
What do you think this film departs with?
Discussion ends there, but to draw back to the question (and to pose more to get your mind going), what do you think this film departs with? What do you think the theme of the film was this time and did you think it was a fulfilling experience based on the events that happened before? Did it answer any questions you've had at the end of the TV series or two films? What do you think makes this film successful/unsuccessful?
To branch off on another tangent, here's a completely different question I have for you readers. If you wanted to get someone unfamiliar with the Madoka series to watch the 3rd film, without wasting a lot of their time, what would you do to ensure they've acquired sufficient background knowledge to understand where the events in Rebellion take off? Would you suggest going with the summarized films? Or would you argue that the first two films alone may have left some untied ends that is crucial to having the same level of understanding of witch hunters as those who sat through all 12 episodes?
I figured that was the case, but seeing as how it's starting to hit theatres in North America now (or very soon), it may become redundant to have a "speculation thread".
To bring back what I wrote in the other thread:
Myself said:
Nov 17, 21:24:
Jesus they got Warner Bros on this film.
edit: omg this transformation thing is so LOL
Nov 17, 23:54:
Holy -
I just finished Rebellion. I am speechless. I almost want to curl up and let 2 days fly by.
Topic question (previously posed elsewhere):
What do you think this film departs with?
I think it exits with the realization Homura will never have a normal life with Madoka ever againm like there's always bound to be something that will take her away in one way or another, hence why she seemingly commits suicide(?) at the end.
I agree with the first part, which was likely the driving force for what she did in the second half. I think she did it to stop Madoka from being taken away from her, seeing as she has incredible powers now. As for her committing suicide, to me it didn't look like she did.
Me: I wasn't sure about it, but it sure looked like a sign of giving up.
What kept me on edge was the amount of tricks both Homura and Mami deployed in battle. The choreography was pretty good actually. The bullet to the head against was a huge gamble.
What I'm still unsure about is what the parameters of the new universe is, the one Homura created... also, how the hell did she gain the power to take away Madokami's power?
All I know is, I feel incredibly sad for her.
Given up in the sense that her old methods had brought Madoka into an unseen entity. I'd guess that greed and love made her lead to the decisions that she made, and maybe in some twisted way her wish allowed her to do it also.
Me: I wasn't sure about it, but it sure looked like a sign of giving up.
What kept me on edge was the amount of tricks both Homura and Mami deployed in battle. The choreography was pretty good actually. The bullet to the head against was a huge gamble.
What I'm still unsure about is what the parameters of the new universe is, the one Homura created... also, how the hell did she gain the power to take away Madokami's power?
All I know is, I feel incredibly sad for her.
Given up in the sense that her old methods had brought Madoka into an unseen entity. I'd guess that greed and love made her lead to the decisions that she made, and maybe in some twisted way her wish allowed her to do it also.
Discussion ends there, but to draw back to the question (and to pose more to get your mind going), what do you think this film departs with? What do you think the theme of the film was this time and did you think it was a fulfilling experience based on the events that happened before? Did it answer any questions you've had at the end of the TV series or two films? What do you think makes this film successful/unsuccessful?
To branch off on another tangent, here's a completely different question I have for you readers. If you wanted to get someone unfamiliar with the Madoka series to watch the 3rd film, without wasting a lot of their time, what would you do to ensure they've acquired sufficient background knowledge to understand where the events in Rebellion take off? Would you suggest going with the summarized films? Or would you argue that the first two films alone may have left some untied ends that is crucial to having the same level of understanding of witch hunters as those who sat through all 12 episodes?
So far, I feel that knowing about the minor characters have little to no significance as they barely came around to being important to the plot of Rebellion. Having rough knowledge of the character's origin of being a witch hunter would probably be enough to watch the 3rd film without missing anything. Let's break it down:
-That love triangle between Sayaka and friends weren't important after all. It has no impact on Rebellion. All we know is that Sayaka is a witch because she succumbed to the grief. That is covered briefly in the films. Well then again, it was her wish–along with all the sequenced events– that showed us why it wasn't a good idea to form a contract with Kyubey.
-Knowing why Kyoko became a witch wasn't significant either. All we know now is that she's just another player on the team. Weakest link if you ask me.
-In the case of Mami, her death in the TV series hasn't played a huge impact other than hinting to us (once again) that the story takes place in alternate timeline/world. It should be easy to spot since her brutal death was shown in the first film and how she is alive again in the second.
-As for Madoka and Homura, everything we probably need to know about them to pick up on Rebellion's content has probably been covered in the 2 films. I mean, it better have done so if they expect audience unfamiliar with the series to engage with Rebellion.
Rebellion revolved around mostly around everything we learned about Madoka and Homura in episodes 10 to 12, and most of the stuff above (I felt) doesn't seem important to be knowledgeable of to have a fulfilling (or alternate) experience during Rebellion.
-That love triangle between Sayaka and friends weren't important after all. It has no impact on Rebellion. All we know is that Sayaka is a witch because she succumbed to the grief. That is covered briefly in the films. Well then again, it was her wish–along with all the sequenced events– that showed us why it wasn't a good idea to form a contract with Kyubey.
-Knowing why Kyoko became a witch wasn't significant either. All we know now is that she's just another player on the team. Weakest link if you ask me.
-In the case of Mami, her death in the TV series hasn't played a huge impact other than hinting to us (once again) that the story takes place in alternate timeline/world. It should be easy to spot since her brutal death was shown in the first film and how she is alive again in the second.
-As for Madoka and Homura, everything we probably need to know about them to pick up on Rebellion's content has probably been covered in the 2 films. I mean, it better have done so if they expect audience unfamiliar with the series to engage with Rebellion.
Rebellion revolved around mostly around everything we learned about Madoka and Homura in episodes 10 to 12, and most of the stuff above (I felt) doesn't seem important to be knowledgeable of to have a fulfilling (or alternate) experience during Rebellion.
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Yay crackpot theories!
Rebellion: still a better love story than Twilight
Yay crackpot theories!
Whereas the TV series / first two movies were an ode to Faust, Rebellion is an ode to Paradise Lost.
Homura broke the Madokami universe when she told Kyubey that there was a more efficient way of gathering energy (turning magical girls into witches). She sacrifices herself (her sanity, her mortality) to not only bring back her friends (at the cost of their memories), but also to defeat Kyubey.
It's also possible that at the end of Rebellion, magical girls (and thus witches) no longer exist.
It's even more likely that this is cyclical, meaning that Madoka will one day regain her powers and change the entire universe again. We get a hint when her eyes glow gold before Homura suppresses Madoka's powers and refers to Madoka as her enemy. So we'll get this yin-yang battle between selflessness (Madokami) and selfishness (Akuma Homura). That could explain the stinger at the end where there's a half moon, and a half cliff.
Homura broke the Madokami universe when she told Kyubey that there was a more efficient way of gathering energy (turning magical girls into witches). She sacrifices herself (her sanity, her mortality) to not only bring back her friends (at the cost of their memories), but also to defeat Kyubey.
It's also possible that at the end of Rebellion, magical girls (and thus witches) no longer exist.
It's even more likely that this is cyclical, meaning that Madoka will one day regain her powers and change the entire universe again. We get a hint when her eyes glow gold before Homura suppresses Madoka's powers and refers to Madoka as her enemy. So we'll get this yin-yang battle between selflessness (Madokami) and selfishness (Akuma Homura). That could explain the stinger at the end where there's a half moon, and a half cliff.
Rebellion: still a better love story than Twilight
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Re: MADOKA MOVIE PART 3 DISCUSSION <HUGE SPOILERS>
I am a bit confused on how the new cycle for mahou shoujo is suppose to work. In the, when Homura was talking to Sayaka, she states that she has only pprevent Madoka's essence from disappearing. Those that mean that the mahou shoujo still don't turn to witches and still fight wraiths or what? And if that's the case, then hope are they saved from becoming witches when Madoka's God powers are being suppressed?
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